Why Cofek resigned from Government's Digital Television Committee on July 11
On June 21, Cofek and the Government of Kenya announced a deal to withdraw our earlier court case against analogue signal switch-off until specific issues were addressed. At the meeting, both the Director General of the Communications Commission of Kenya (CCK) and the Cabinet Secretary for ICT were present.Under the arrangement, Cofek was to spearhead negotiations on the country’s stalled digital migration. The Federation was to equally withdraw the court case on digital migration. On his part, the ICT Secretary was to obey the law in appointing the consumer representative to the CCK board even if the said appointee would not have been sponsored by Cofek.http://www.cofek.co.ke/index.php/14-news/147-why-cofek-resigned-from-governm...
Thanks Grace for this information. It's indeed sad to see that different factions are moving in different directions as we move towards complete migration to digital TV. Since the consumer representative doesen't necessarily have to come from COFEK, where else did the ministry fish the representative? In my view, the different civil society movements that are geared towards a free society like ISOC, COFEK, KICTANET, e.t.c should have fronted a name to represent the common Mwananchi's interests at the CCK board. Honesty is very important when dealing with this issue and Machavelian tactics might not win. Regards On 22/07/2013, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com> wrote:
On June 21, Cofek and the Government of Kenya announced a deal to withdraw our earlier court case against analogue signal switch-off until specific issues were addressed. At the meeting, both the Director General of the Communications Commission of Kenya (CCK) and the Cabinet Secretary for ICT were present.Under the arrangement, Cofek was to spearhead negotiations on the country’s stalled digital migration. The Federation was to equally withdraw the court case on digital migration. On his part, the ICT Secretary was to obey the law in appointing the consumer representative to the CCK board even if the said appointee would not have been sponsored by Cofek.http://www.cofek.co.ke/index.php/14-news/147-why-cofek-resigned-from-governm...
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Mwendwa, I just read this at the back of a matatu. Love your country, fear the government. Have a digital day. Best Regards On Jul 22, 2013 10:30 PM, "Kivuva" <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
Thanks Grace for this information. It's indeed sad to see that different factions are moving in different directions as we move towards complete migration to digital TV.
Since the consumer representative doesen't necessarily have to come from COFEK, where else did the ministry fish the representative? In my view, the different civil society movements that are geared towards a free society like ISOC, COFEK, KICTANET, e.t.c should have fronted a name to represent the common Mwananchi's interests at the CCK board.
Honesty is very important when dealing with this issue and Machavelian tactics might not win.
Regards
On 22/07/2013, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com> wrote:
On June 21, Cofek and the Government of Kenya announced a deal to withdraw our earlier court case against analogue signal switch-off until specific issues were addressed. At the meeting, both the Director General of the Communications Commission of Kenya (CCK) and the Cabinet Secretary for ICT were present.Under the arrangement, Cofek was to spearhead negotiations on the country’s stalled digital migration. The Federation was to equally withdraw the court case on digital migration. On his part, the ICT Secretary was to obey the law in appointing the consumer representative to the CCK board even if the said appointee would not have been sponsored by Cofek. http://www.cofek.co.ke/index.php/14-news/147-why-cofek-resigned-from-governm...
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In my opinion, Kictanet, not Cofek, should provide that person. It is more representative of the ICT industry and consumer interests dominate the discussions here. Regards James On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 6:35 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>wrote:
Mwendwa,
I just read this at the back of a matatu. Love your country, fear the government.
Have a digital day.
Best Regards On Jul 22, 2013 10:30 PM, "Kivuva" <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
Thanks Grace for this information. It's indeed sad to see that different factions are moving in different directions as we move towards complete migration to digital TV.
Since the consumer representative doesen't necessarily have to come from COFEK, where else did the ministry fish the representative? In my view, the different civil society movements that are geared towards a free society like ISOC, COFEK, KICTANET, e.t.c should have fronted a name to represent the common Mwananchi's interests at the CCK board.
Honesty is very important when dealing with this issue and Machavelian tactics might not win.
Regards
On 22/07/2013, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com> wrote:
On June 21, Cofek and the Government of Kenya announced a deal to withdraw our earlier court case against analogue signal switch-off until specific issues were addressed. At the meeting, both the Director General of the Communications Commission of Kenya (CCK) and the Cabinet Secretary for ICT were present.Under the arrangement, Cofek was to spearhead negotiations on the country’s stalled digital migration. The Federation was to equally withdraw the court case on digital migration. On his part, the ICT Secretary was to obey the law in appointing the consumer representative to the CCK board even if the said appointee would not have been sponsored by Cofek. http://www.cofek.co.ke/index.php/14-news/147-why-cofek-resigned-from-governm...
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I agree with James. Kictanet is more representative of ICT industry because in my opinion Kictanet members by virtue of being consumers of products and services are also Cofek members. ________________________________ From: James Mbugua <jgmbugua@gmail.com> To: scmutunga@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Tuesday, 23 July 2013 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Why Cofek resigned from Government's Digital Television Committee on July 11 In my opinion, Kictanet, not Cofek, should provide that person. It is more representative of the ICT industry and consumer interests dominate the discussions here. Regards James On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 6:35 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote: Mwendwa,
I just read this at the back of a matatu. Love your country, fear the government. Have a digital day. Best Regards On Jul 22, 2013 10:30 PM, "Kivuva" <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
Thanks Grace for this information. It's indeed sad to see that
different factions are moving in different directions as we move towards complete migration to digital TV.
Since the consumer representative doesen't necessarily have to come from COFEK, where else did the ministry fish the representative? In my view, the different civil society movements that are geared towards a free society like ISOC, COFEK, KICTANET, e.t.c should have fronted a name to represent the common Mwananchi's interests at the CCK board.
Honesty is very important when dealing with this issue and Machavelian tactics might not win.
Regards
On 22/07/2013, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com> wrote:
On June 21, Cofek and the Government of Kenya announced a deal to withdraw our earlier court case against analogue signal switch-off until specific issues were addressed. At the meeting, both the Director General of the Communications Commission of Kenya (CCK) and the Cabinet Secretary for ICT were present.Under the arrangement, Cofek was to spearhead negotiations on the country’s stalled digital migration. The Federation was to equally withdraw the court case on digital migration. On his part, the ICT Secretary was to obey the law in appointing the consumer representative to the CCK board even if the said appointee would not have been sponsored by Cofek.http://www.cofek.co.ke/index.php/14-news/147-why-cofek-resigned-from-governm...
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I thought Ndemo was the devil according to a previous posting here by Mutoro, who was happy to see the former PS go. He in addition claimed to be friends with the current CS? So how comes things have remained the same then? Today, the CS has said that they are still open to consultations, and the same are still ongoing and that everything is being done by the law. He doesn't understand why some people should be making noise in some corner. On Tuesday, 23 July 2013, Isaac Mutunga wrote:
I agree with James. Kictanet is more representative of ICT industry because in my opinion Kictanet members by virtue of being consumers of products and services are also Cofek members.
------------------------------ *From:* James Mbugua <jgmbugua@gmail.com <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'jgmbugua@gmail.com');>> *To:* scmutunga@yahoo.com <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'scmutunga@yahoo.com');> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke');>>
*Sent:* Tuesday, 23 July 2013 9:21 AM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Why Cofek resigned from Government's Digital Television Committee on July 11
In my opinion, Kictanet, not Cofek, should provide that person. It is more representative of the ICT industry and consumer interests dominate the discussions here.
Regards
James
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 6:35 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>wrote:
Mwendwa, I just read this at the back of a matatu. Love your country, fear the government. Have a digital day. Best Regards On Jul 22, 2013 10:30 PM, "Kivuva" <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
Thanks Grace for this information. It's indeed sad to see that different factions are moving in different directions as we move towards complete migration to digital TV.
Since the consumer representative doesen't necessarily have to come from COFEK, where else did the ministry fish the representative? In my view, the different civil society movements that are geared towards a free society like ISOC, COFEK, KICTANET, e.t.c should have fronted a name to represent the common Mwananchi's interests at the CCK board.
Honesty is very important when dealing with this issue and Machavelian tactics might not win.
Regards
On 22/07/2013, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com> wrote:
On June 21, Cofek and the Government of Kenya announced a deal to withdraw our earlier court case against analogue signal switch-off until specific issues were addressed. At the meeting, both the Director General of the Communications Commission of Kenya (CCK) and the Cabinet Secretary for ICT were present.Under the arrangement, Cofek was to spearhead negotiations on the country’s stalled digital migration. The Federation was to equally withdraw the court case on digital migration. On his part, the ICT Secretary was to obey the law in appointing the consumer representative to the CCK board even if the said appointee would not have been sponsored by Cofek. http://www.cofek.co.ke/index.php/14-news/147-why-cofek-resigned-from-governm...
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Thanks Dennis/Listers: Yes, at a personal level, we are still friends with both Dr Ndemo and Dr Matiang'i. But a time comes with the country's (read majority poor consumers) interests' are more important than those of our individual interest. Have a look at this and give your reaction: http://www.cofek.co.ke/index.php/14-news/166-real-truth-on-digital-migration... Cofek and I will fight on for what we passionately believe in even if it shall cost us the support we need from your likes. Kind regards, Stephen Mutoro www.cofek.co.ke ________________________________ From: Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> To: smutoro@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Why Cofek resigned from Government's Digital Television Committee on July 11 I thought Ndemo was the devil according to a previous posting here by Mutoro, who was happy to see the former PS go. He in addition claimed to be friends with the current CS? So how comes things have remained the same then? Today, the CS has said that they are still open to consultations, and the same are still ongoing and that everything is being done by the law. He doesn't understand why some people should be making noise in some corner. On Tuesday, 23 July 2013, Isaac Mutunga wrote: I agree with James. Kictanet is more representative of ICT industry because in my opinion Kictanet members by virtue of being consumers of products and services are also Cofek members.
________________________________ From: James Mbugua <jgmbugua@gmail.com> To: scmutunga@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Tuesday, 23 July 2013 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Why Cofek resigned from Government's Digital Television Committee on July 11
In my opinion, Kictanet, not Cofek, should provide that person. It is more representative of the ICT industry and consumer interests dominate the discussions here.
Regards
James
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 6:35 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
Mwendwa,
I just read this at the back of a matatu. Love your country, fear the government. Have a digital day. Best Regards On Jul 22, 2013 10:30 PM, "Kivuva" <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
Thanks Grace for this information. It's indeed sad to see that
different factions are moving in different directions as we move towards complete migration to digital TV.
Since the consumer representative doesen't necessarily have to come from COFEK, where else did the ministry fish the representative? In my view, the different civil society movements that are geared towards a free society like ISOC, COFEK, KICTANET, e.t.c should have fronted a name to represent the common Mwananchi's interests at the CCK board.
Honesty is very important when dealing with this issue and Machavelian tactics might not win.
Regards
On 22/07/2013, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com> wrote:
On June 21, Cofek and the Government of Kenya announced a deal to withdraw our earlier court case against analogue signal switch-off until specific issues were addressed. At the meeting, both the Director General of the Communications Commission of Kenya (CCK) and the Cabinet Secretary for ICT were present.Under the arrangement, Cofek was to spearhead negotiations on the country’s stalled digital migration. The Federation was to equally withdraw the court case on digital migration. On his part, the ICT Secretary was to obey the law in appointing the consumer representative to the CCK board even if the said appointee would not have been sponsored by Cofek.http://www.cofek.co.ke/index.php/14-news/147-why-cofek-resigned-from-governm...
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COFEK's activities appear to me as more of activism than consumer protection. Anyway, time is the true answer to the ambition being expressed here. On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 12:58 PM, stephen Mutoro <smutoro@yahoo.com> wrote:
Thanks Dennis/Listers:
Yes, at a personal level, we are still friends with both Dr Ndemo and Dr Matiang'i. But a time comes with the country's (read majority poor consumers) interests' are more important than those of our individual interest. Have a look at this and give your reaction: http://www.cofek.co.ke/index.php/14-news/166-real-truth-on-digital-migration...
Cofek and I will fight on for what we passionately believe in even if it shall cost us the support we need from your likes.
Kind regards,
Stephen Mutoro www.cofek.co.ke
------------------------------ *From:* Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> *To:* smutoro@yahoo.com *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 23, 2013 11:56 AM
*Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Why Cofek resigned from Government's Digital Television Committee on July 11
I thought Ndemo was the devil according to a previous posting here by Mutoro, who was happy to see the former PS go. He in addition claimed to be friends with the current CS?
So how comes things have remained the same then?
Today, the CS has said that they are still open to consultations, and the same are still ongoing and that everything is being done by the law. He doesn't understand why some people should be making noise in some corner.
On Tuesday, 23 July 2013, Isaac Mutunga wrote:
I agree with James. Kictanet is more representative of ICT industry because in my opinion Kictanet members by virtue of being consumers of products and services are also Cofek members.
------------------------------ *From:* James Mbugua <jgmbugua@gmail.com> *To:* scmutunga@yahoo.com *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Tuesday, 23 July 2013 9:21 AM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Why Cofek resigned from Government's Digital Television Committee on July 11
In my opinion, Kictanet, not Cofek, should provide that person. It is more representative of the ICT industry and consumer interests dominate the discussions here.
Regards
James
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 6:35 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>wrote:
Mwendwa, I just read this at the back of a matatu. Love your country, fear the government. Have a digital day. Best Regards On Jul 22, 2013 10:30 PM, "Kivuva" <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
Thanks Grace for this information. It's indeed sad to see that different factions are moving in different directions as we move towards complete migration to digital TV.
Since the consumer representative doesen't necessarily have to come from COFEK, where else did the ministry fish the representative? In my view, the different civil society movements that are geared towards a free society like ISOC, COFEK, KICTANET, e.t.c should have fronted a name to represent the common Mwananchi's interests at the CCK board.
Honesty is very important when dealing with this issue and Machavelian tactics might not win.
Regards
On 22/07/2013, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com> wrote:
On June 21, Cofek and the Government of Kenya announced a deal to withdraw our earlier court case against analogue signal switch-off until specific issues were addressed. At the meeting, both the Director General of the Communications Commission of Kenya (CCK) and the Cabinet Secretary for ICT were present.Under the arrangement, Cofek was to spearhead negotiations on the country’s stalled digital migration. The Federation was to equally withdraw the court case on digital migration. On his part, the ICT Secretary was to obey the law in appointing the consumer representative to the CCK board even if the said appointee would not have been sponsored by Cofek. http://www.cofek.co.ke/index.php/14-news/147-why-cofek-resigned-from-governm...
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Why is Steve reisigning and he has not consulting with members Sent from my iKamire network. On Jul 26, 2013, at 15:49, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni@gmail.com> wrote: COFEK's activities appear to me as more of activism than consumer protection. Anyway, time is the true answer to the ambition being expressed here. On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 12:58 PM, stephen Mutoro <smutoro@yahoo.com> wrote:
Thanks Dennis/Listers:
Yes, at a personal level, we are still friends with both Dr Ndemo and Dr Matiang'i. But a time comes with the country's (read majority poor consumers) interests' are more important than those of our individual interest. Have a look at this and give your reaction: http://www.cofek.co.ke/index.php/14-news/166-real-truth-on-digital-migration...
Cofek and I will fight on for what we passionately believe in even if it shall cost us the support we need from your likes.
Kind regards,
Stephen Mutoro www.cofek.co.ke
From: Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> To: smutoro@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Why Cofek resigned from Government's Digital Television Committee on July 11
I thought Ndemo was the devil according to a previous posting here by Mutoro, who was happy to see the former PS go. He in addition claimed to be friends with the current CS?
So how comes things have remained the same then?
Today, the CS has said that they are still open to consultations, and the same are still ongoing and that everything is being done by the law. He doesn't understand why some people should be making noise in some corner.
On Tuesday, 23 July 2013, Isaac Mutunga wrote: I agree with James. Kictanet is more representative of ICT industry because in my opinion Kictanet members by virtue of being consumers of products and services are also Cofek members.
From: James Mbugua <jgmbugua@gmail.com> To: scmutunga@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Tuesday, 23 July 2013 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Why Cofek resigned from Government's Digital Television Committee on July 11
In my opinion, Kictanet, not Cofek, should provide that person. It is more representative of the ICT industry and consumer interests dominate the discussions here.
Regards
James
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 6:35 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote: Mwendwa, I just read this at the back of a matatu. Love your country, fear the government. Have a digital day. Best Regards On Jul 22, 2013 10:30 PM, "Kivuva" <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote: Thanks Grace for this information. It's indeed sad to see that different factions are moving in different directions as we move towards complete migration to digital TV.
Since the consumer representative doesen't necessarily have to come from COFEK, where else did the ministry fish the representative? In my view, the different civil society movements that are geared towards a free society like ISOC, COFEK, KICTANET, e.t.c should have fronted a name to represent the common Mwananchi's interests at the CCK board.
Honesty is very important when dealing with this issue and Machavelian tactics might not win.
Regards
On 22/07/2013, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com> wrote:
On June 21, Cofek and the Government of Kenya announced a deal to withdraw our earlier court case against analogue signal switch-off until specific issues were addressed. At the meeting, both the Director General of the Communications Commission of Kenya (CCK) and the Cabinet Secretary for ICT were present.Under the arrangement, Cofek was to spearhead negotiations on the country’s stalled digital migration. The Federation was to equally withdraw the court case on digital migration. On his part, the ICT Secretary was to obey the law in appointing the consumer representative to the CCK board even if the said appointee would not have been sponsored by Cofek.http://www.cofek.co.ke/index.php/14-news/147-why-cofek-resigned-from-governm...
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Well, the problem is that Cofek has been appearing to act as if it is protecting the interests of big broadcasters, who really aren't keen to digital migration due to increased competition due to reduced cost of entry. There are those who have invested in digital TV stations awaiting migration, whose continued delay is costing them much. I have seen sub $10 set top boxes being sold in China, why aren't we seeing people bringing in the same here? On Jul 26, 2013 5:24 PM, "Thomas Kamire" <tkamire@gmail.com> wrote:
Why is Steve reisigning and he has not consulting with members
Sent from my iKamire network.
On Jul 26, 2013, at 15:49, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni@gmail.com> wrote:
COFEK's activities appear to me as more of activism than consumer protection.
Anyway, time is the true answer to the ambition being expressed here.
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 12:58 PM, stephen Mutoro <smutoro@yahoo.com>wrote:
Thanks Dennis/Listers:
Yes, at a personal level, we are still friends with both Dr Ndemo and Dr Matiang'i. But a time comes with the country's (read majority poor consumers) interests' are more important than those of our individual interest. Have a look at this and give your reaction: http://www.cofek.co.ke/index.php/14-news/166-real-truth-on-digital-migration...
Cofek and I will fight on for what we passionately believe in even if it shall cost us the support we need from your likes.
Kind regards,
Stephen Mutoro www.cofek.co.ke
------------------------------ *From:* Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> *To:* smutoro@yahoo.com *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 23, 2013 11:56 AM
*Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Why Cofek resigned from Government's Digital Television Committee on July 11
I thought Ndemo was the devil according to a previous posting here by Mutoro, who was happy to see the former PS go. He in addition claimed to be friends with the current CS?
So how comes things have remained the same then?
Today, the CS has said that they are still open to consultations, and the same are still ongoing and that everything is being done by the law. He doesn't understand why some people should be making noise in some corner.
On Tuesday, 23 July 2013, Isaac Mutunga wrote:
I agree with James. Kictanet is more representative of ICT industry because in my opinion Kictanet members by virtue of being consumers of products and services are also Cofek members.
------------------------------ *From:* James Mbugua <jgmbugua@gmail.com> *To:* scmutunga@yahoo.com *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Tuesday, 23 July 2013 9:21 AM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Why Cofek resigned from Government's Digital Television Committee on July 11
In my opinion, Kictanet, not Cofek, should provide that person. It is more representative of the ICT industry and consumer interests dominate the discussions here.
Regards
James
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 6:35 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com
wrote:
Mwendwa, I just read this at the back of a matatu. Love your country, fear the government. Have a digital day. Best Regards On Jul 22, 2013 10:30 PM, "Kivuva" <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
Thanks Grace for this information. It's indeed sad to see that different factions are moving in different directions as we move towards complete migration to digital TV.
Since the consumer representative doesen't necessarily have to come from COFEK, where else did the ministry fish the representative? In my view, the different civil society movements that are geared towards a free society like ISOC, COFEK, KICTANET, e.t.c should have fronted a name to represent the common Mwananchi's interests at the CCK board.
Honesty is very important when dealing with this issue and Machavelian tactics might not win.
Regards
On 22/07/2013, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com> wrote:
On June 21, Cofek and the Government of Kenya announced a deal to withdraw our earlier court case against analogue signal switch-off until specific issues were addressed. At the meeting, both the Director General of the Communications Commission of Kenya (CCK) and the Cabinet Secretary for ICT were present.Under the arrangement, Cofek was to spearhead negotiations on the country’s stalled digital migration. The Federation was to equally withdraw the court case on digital migration. On his part, the ICT Secretary was to obey the law in appointing the consumer representative to the CCK board even if the said appointee would not have been sponsored by Cofek. http://www.cofek.co.ke/index.php/14-news/147-why-cofek-resigned-from-governm...
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participants (9)
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Barrack Otieno -
Dennis Kioko -
Dorcas Muthoni -
Grace Githaiga -
Isaac Mutunga -
James Mbugua -
Kivuva -
stephen Mutoro -
Thomas Kamire