Fwd: ICT Board Strategy a Farce
FYI Listers ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Brian Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> Date: Aug 29, 2008 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] ICT Board Strategy a Farce To: wambuiwakarema@yahoo.co.uk Very strong language - but I think you should relax as your concerns are unfounded. I am at the Strategic retreat. Unfortunately Gilda Odera - Chairperson of BPO, who was supposed to be present had to cancel at the last minute. Brian On 8/29/08, Wambui Wakarema <wambuiwakarema@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
I have read with surprise the Kictanet mailout from the ICT Board claiming they are going for a stakeholders strategy workshop in Naivasha.
Who are these stakeholders? Are there any representing the BPO sector?? I ask this because I have contacted the industry association and they dont seem
to be in the know either. This is quite bizarre, especially since BPO is a key sector of the ICT Board's mandate.
Who are the stakeholders from the other ICT sectors? Shouldnt the Board be getting input from key stakeholders at this workshop.
They are wasting government resources going to write strategies and then 'presenting' to stakeholders, yet stakeholders should have been involved from the word go.
The current management of the ICT Board performance is well under par. Recently I called up their
offices wanting to engage with the management on a number of issues. Alas! I was informed that they were all on leave at the same time!
The ICT Board cant seem to function properly due to sheer incompetence.
Dr Ndemo I want a response from you since the buck stops with you!
Wakarema
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Good afternoon, Perhaps a few questions to be asked (not directed at Brian only) if some others may be interested in knowing is... 1. Who qualifies as a stakeholder (individual and company?) 2. How can one qualify as a stakeholder? and contribute to be considered as a voice being heard: 1. Perhaps as members of this list for example; can questions / suggestions regarding certain issues be solicited through the online discussion fora or through directed workshops... be collected and presented on behalf for those unable to attend various events? 3. How can one be nominated to participate at these venues be it retreats and or missions overseas as indicated in the document? I apologise if this has been already discussed at length..however a quick recap can't hurt. Perhaps these are best directed to the ICT board directly? however, it may benefit others curious on this list as well... On another note... I found the document rather interesting as this is response to the much awareness requested on this list : *information* ..* information*...*information*... Kudos to the ICT board on making efforts to dissemniate this info. and hope to see further publishes and eventual invites. To move forward collectively..collaboration is key... Wishing a good friday. Asante, Patrick 2008/8/29 Brian Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>
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---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Brian Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> Date: Aug 29, 2008 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] ICT Board Strategy a Farce To: wambuiwakarema@yahoo.co.uk
Very strong language - but I think you should relax as your concerns are unfounded.
I am at the Strategic retreat. Unfortunately Gilda Odera - Chairperson of BPO, who was supposed to be present had to cancel at the last minute.
Brian
On 8/29/08, Wambui Wakarema <wambuiwakarema@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
I have read with surprise the Kictanet mailout from the ICT Board claiming they are going for a stakeholders strategy workshop in Naivasha.
Who are these stakeholders? Are there any representing the BPO sector?? I ask this because I have contacted the industry association and they dont seem
to be in the know either. This is quite bizarre, especially since BPO is a key sector of the ICT Board's mandate.
Who are the stakeholders from the other ICT sectors? Shouldnt the Board be getting input from key stakeholders at this workshop.
They are wasting government resources going to write strategies and then 'presenting' to stakeholders, yet stakeholders should have been involved from the word go.
The current management of the ICT Board performance is well under par. Recently I called up their
offices wanting to engage with the management on a number of issues. Alas! I was informed that they were all on leave at the same time!
The ICT Board cant seem to function properly due to sheer incompetence.
Dr Ndemo I want a response from you since the buck stops with you!
Wakarema
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Hi PAtrick, Very good points raised. I will not try to answer any of them directly - but will make a few suggestions. I personally feel that it is quite interesting to note your (and many others previously) open expression of interest in "getting involved" - this is excellent! However, the sad fact is that very often when the rubber hits the road and people need to selflessly dedicate personal time (almost always on a voluntary basis) - they simply don't. Some of us (and as I look around the room at the 12 odd people sitting here) have been volunteering our time constantly and consistently for many years, going out of our way, both to find out what is happenning and to offer our (free time and input) towards helping govt better understand and work with "stakeholders" in defining the ways of moving forward. A lot of this has happened through our personal involvement in organisations such as KICTANET, TESPOK, KENIC, KIF, KEPSA, EAIA, CSK, etc... As a result of these largely voluntary participations I think Govt has realised that there are people who are willing to set aside their personal and commercial interests and help out of their hearts. My two pence and probably not very clearly expressed but I hope you get my point. For those who *genuinely* want to be of service, there comes a high price in terms of personal commitment and sometimes it takes years before one is recognised as being a consistent and reliable resource. In my personal experience my first major engagement in a national process was during the drafting, review and enactment of the Communications Act in 97/98 which I pursued because I had a passion to see transformation within the industry and genuinely felt that this was an opportunity - now 10 years later I am the one being chased by various committees/panels for my input...... Hope this helps, B On Aug 29, 2008, at 12:43 PM, Patrick Mburu wrote:
Good afternoon,
Perhaps a few questions to be asked (not directed at Brian only) if some others may be interested in knowing is... Who qualifies as a stakeholder (individual and company?) How can one qualify as a stakeholder? and contribute to be considered as a voice being heard: Perhaps as members of this list for example; can questions / suggestions regarding certain issues be solicited through the online discussion fora or through directed workshops... be collected and presented on behalf for those unable to attend various events? How can one be nominated to participate at these venues be it retreats and or missions overseas as indicated in the document? I apologise if this has been already discussed at length..however a quick recap can't hurt.
Perhaps these are best directed to the ICT board directly? however, it may benefit others curious on this list as well...
On another note... I found the document rather interesting as this is response to the much awareness requested on this list : information ..information...information... Kudos to the ICT board on making efforts to dissemniate this info. and hope to see further publishes and eventual invites.
To move forward collectively..collaboration is key...
Wishing a good friday.
Asante,
Patrick 2008/8/29 Brian Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> FYI Listers
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Brian Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> Date: Aug 29, 2008 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] ICT Board Strategy a Farce To: wambuiwakarema@yahoo.co.uk
Very strong language - but I think you should relax as your concerns are unfounded.
I am at the Strategic retreat. Unfortunately Gilda Odera - Chairperson of BPO, who was supposed to be present had to cancel at the last minute.
Brian
On 8/29/08, Wambui Wakarema <wambuiwakarema@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
I have read with surprise the Kictanet mailout from the ICT Board claiming they are going for a stakeholders strategy workshop in Naivasha. Who are these stakeholders? Are there any representing the BPO sector?? I ask this because I have contacted the industry association and they dont seem to be in the know either. This is quite bizarre, especially since BPO is a key sector of the ICT Board's mandate. Who are the stakeholders from the other ICT sectors? Shouldnt the Board be getting input from key stakeholders at this workshop. They are wasting government resources going to write strategies and then 'presenting' to stakeholders, yet stakeholders should have been involved from the word go. The current management of the ICT Board performance is well under par. Recently I called up their offices wanting to engage with the management on a number of issues. Alas! I was informed that they were all on leave at the same time! The ICT Board cant seem to function properly due to sheer incompetence. Dr Ndemo I want a response from you since the buck stops with you! Wakarema
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Hi Brian, Yes, Wambui seems to be a rather angry person with the Board at all times:) On the same note, frankly speaking, I got no formal communication from the ICT Board and Harry's attempt to get me to Naivasha failed due to the short two day notice, I had earlier commitments. Nonetheless if it came out clear what the strategy meeting was about or that I was being called for the meeting in my capacity as BPO Chair, naturally I would have asked someone from our board to attend.I hope you do appreciate that the ICT Board has several such meetings and it normally needs to be clear which sector group is needed in the meeting. I do hope all is going well there though. Harry did his bit. I believe there was a communication gap but that is something for me to discuss with the Board and not through KICTANET. Kind regards, Gilda Odera ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Longwe To: Gilda Odera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 11:55 AM Subject: [kictanet] Fwd: ICT Board Strategy a Farce FYI Listers ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Brian Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> Date: Aug 29, 2008 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] ICT Board Strategy a Farce To: wambuiwakarema@yahoo.co.uk Very strong language - but I think you should relax as your concerns are unfounded. I am at the Strategic retreat. Unfortunately Gilda Odera - Chairperson of BPO, who was supposed to be present had to cancel at the last minute. Brian On 8/29/08, Wambui Wakarema <wambuiwakarema@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: I have read with surprise the Kictanet mailout from the ICT Board claiming they are going for a stakeholders strategy workshop in Naivasha.Who are these stakeholders? Are there any representing the BPO sector?? I ask this because I have contacted the industry association and they dont seem to be in the know either. This is quite bizarre, especially since BPO is a key sector of the ICT Board's mandate.Who are the stakeholders from the other ICT sectors? Shouldnt the Board be getting input from key stakeholders at this workshop.They are wasting government resources going to write strategies and then 'presenting' to stakeholders, yet stakeholders should have been involved from the word go.The current management of the ICT Board performance is well under par. Recently I called up theiroffices wanting to engage with the management on a number of issues. Alas! I was informed that they were all on leave at the same time!The ICT Board cant seem to function properly due to sheer incompetence.Dr Ndemo I want a response from you since the buck stops with you!Wakarema Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: blongwe@gmail.com Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/blongwe%40gmail.com -- Brian Munyao Longwe e-mail: blongwe@gmail.com cell: + 254 722 518 744 blog : http://zinjlog.blogspot.com meta-blog: http://mashilingi.blogspot.com -- Brian Munyao Longwe e-mail: blongwe@gmail.com cell: + 254 722 518 744 blog : http://zinjlog.blogspot.com meta-blog: http://mashilingi.blogspot.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: godera@skyweb.co.ke Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/godera%40skyweb.co.ke
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