Cdohnio Indeed. In fact let me also say that a Internet.org (Facebook's attempt to close out any other content by subsiding/or offering free connectivity through telcos) is also already with us. So we have a lot to discuss. Would really like to get a feel of how the regulator and policy makers feel about this and their views on how this issue will play out. Ali Hussein Hussein & Associates +254 770 906375 / 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi Sent from my iPad

On Jun 12, 2015, at 12:24 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Thank you cdohnio for this. It makes policy makers more open to discussions on Internet Governance and it's relevance in or local landscape.

As you are aware, the Kenyan IGF to be held on 31st July 2015 at the Nairobi Stanley hotel will have a panelist to discuss openness. Among the themes on openness will be "Net Neutrality". What directions should Kenya take on this issue?

It would we great for the community to see discussion from the Regulator, ICT Authority, Business (Google, Facebook, Orange, Airtel), and the Civil society. This would make an interesting duel.

Pop-corns anyone?

Warm Regards

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On 12 June 2015 at 11:18, cdohnio via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: It's was only a matter of time before this argument came to our borders. I'd like to hear wat people on the list think about our networks charging companies for access when we already pay them for data bundles which means they'll be effectively charging twice for the same data

---- Airtel wants piece of Google, Facebook revenues // Business Daily

Airtel has revived the debate calling for big Internet companies such as Google and Facebook to share revenue with Internet service providers. ----

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My 2c3nts on this: the customer is king . it will always boil down to what the Customer wants . The providers whether infrastructure , VAR or content owners have to figure through the dynamics where their money comes from. At end of it all we shall have losers and gainers in the whole dynamics. that how world is regards ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kipkemoi Kiptum via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> To: paul@adwest.net Cc: "Kipkemoi Kiptum" <kip@kipkemoi.com>, "cdohnio" <cdohnio@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 11:15:23 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Airtel wants piece of Google, Facebook revenues Hello all, I am no expert at this - but I have sympathy for people who sell bandwidth in an unlimited way (Zuku, JTL, Telkom ADSL e.t.c.). They have to figure a profitable way to share their upstream data capacity with their downstream customers - without affecting the expectation of individual customers. Large capacity services (Netflix, Dropbox e.t.c) can be a resource hog for them - “ messing” up bandwith plans. Vendors who sell per MB rates - e.g. Safaricom, benefit increasingly as consumption increases, they should probably be paying for the bandwidth consuming applications that make them money. Kip A Cruce Salus On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 11:18 AM, cdohnio via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote: It's was only a matter of time before this argument came to our borders. I'd like to hear wat people on the list think about our networks charging companies for access when we already pay them for data bundles which means they'll be effectively charging twice for the same data ---- Airtel wants piece of Google, Facebook revenues // Business Daily Airtel has revived the debate calling for big Internet companies such as Google and Facebook to share revenue with Internet service providers. ---- Shared via my feedly reader _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kip%40kipkemoi.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/paul%40adwest.net The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.