Technophobia haina tiba, na haitafutwi
Listers, The photo above is of one of the ten pages taken up by the Parliamentary Service Communication in the 3 leading dailies inviting job applicants for interviews. I rest my case. Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
And on a light note..for those whose Swahili is wonky :) the heading there literally means:- Technophibia has no cure and doesn't need to be looked for..literally :) Robert, Pongezi kwa Kiswahili sanifu :) Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "Kujikwaa si kuanguka, bali ni kwenda mbele" (To stumble is not to fall but a sign of going forward) - Swahili Proverb Sent from my iPad
On Oct 1, 2013, at 4:32 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Listers,
The photo above is of one of the ten pages taken up by the Parliamentary Service Communication in the 3 leading dailies inviting job applicants for interviews.
I rest my case.
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@robert Exactly what did you want them to do? post it on their website and be satisfied with a job well done? Internet penetration is still abysmally low and is not as ubiquitous yet to provide a sufficient avenue to reach the widest populace. How is a young guy in Kericho without a computer or a smartphone supposed to access this info? cyber? On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 4:32 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Listers,
The photo above is of one of the ten pages taken up by the Parliamentary Service Communication in the 3 leading dailies inviting job applicants for interviews.
I rest my case.
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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@mark Newspaper circulation 250,000 copies (all 4 dailies) http://www.pressreference.com/Gu-Ku/Kenya.html Daily Newspaper penetration 40% People with Internet Access 12.9 million Number of mobile phones 28.9 million Mobile signal penetration 70% Which is the most practical and cost effective method? Regards PS. I believe I am vindicated Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Tuesday, 1 October 2013, 17:25 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Technophobia haina tiba, na haitafutwi @robert Exactly what did you want them to do? post it on their website and be satisfied with a job well done? Internet penetration is still abysmally low and is not as ubiquitous yet to provide a sufficient avenue to reach the widest populace. How is a young guy in Kericho without a computer or a smartphone supposed to access this info? cyber? On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 4:32 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: Listers,
The photo above is of one of the ten pages taken up by the Parliamentary Service Communication in the 3 leading dailies inviting job applicants for interviews.
I rest my case.
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There are those government rules and regulations that Dr. Ndemo always advocated to be reviewed. One such rule is, ... to procure goods worth more that a certain amount, you must advertise it TWICE in a Newspaper of "National circulation". This applies to recruitment too. I think we should advocate to change the laws that govern the national organs in terms of use of technology. This is now bottom up approach of Multi-stakeholderism, which is entrenched in our constitution. Ali and Yawe should champion it :) Regards On 01/10/2013, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
@mark
Newspaper circulation 250,000 copies (all 4 dailies) http://www.pressreference.com/Gu-Ku/Kenya.html Daily Newspaper penetration 40% People with Internet Access 12.9 million Number of mobile phones 28.9 million Mobile signal penetration 70%
Which is the most practical and cost effective method?
Regards
PS. I believe I am vindicated
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
________________________________ From: Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Tuesday, 1 October 2013, 17:25 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Technophobia haina tiba, na haitafutwi
@robert Exactly what did you want them to do? post it on their website and be satisfied with a job well done? Internet penetration is still abysmally low and is not as ubiquitous yet to provide a sufficient avenue to reach the widest populace. How is a young guy in Kericho without a computer or a smartphone supposed to access this info? cyber?
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 4:32 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Listers,
The photo above is of one of the ten pages taken up by the Parliamentary Service Communication in the 3 leading dailies inviting job applicants for interviews.
I rest my case.
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
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I have a problem with the interpretation of no.s. For starters, the mobile penetration rate is rather debatable seeing as the CCK doesn't detail how/if they filter through individuals owning multiple lines and whether the lines are active or not. Also whether they are used in active mobile phones or in the "internet of things" i.e ATMs, automated car tracking gadgets etc. In my estimation the CCK works with Simcards sold. The info on the site also doesn't seem to be unto date. There is also the simple human habit of borrowing newspapers. Upcountry in my home town, the newspaper at the local roadside hotel is read by upwards of 200 people. These are people who wouldn't be bothered with internet on their phones. the few papers sold by the local vendor wind up being read by everybody, from the young to the old. It is also easy to archive the newspaper for reference tomorrow. Try digging up the link to an old article from last week and put yourself in the shoes of a 50 year old who has problems with Mpesa. newspapers are still effective in news dissemination in this part of the world in a way that the internet is yet to catch up. On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 5:56 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
@mark
Newspaper circulation 250,000 copies (all 4 dailies) http://www.pressreference.com/Gu-Ku/Kenya.html Daily Newspaper penetration 40% People with Internet Access 12.9 million Number of mobile phones 28.9 million Mobile signal penetration 70%
Which is the most practical and cost effective method?
Regards
PS. I believe I am vindicated
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
------------------------------ *From:* Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> *To:* robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Tuesday, 1 October 2013, 17:25 *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Technophobia haina tiba, na haitafutwi
@robert Exactly what did you want them to do? post it on their website and be satisfied with a job well done? Internet penetration is still abysmally low and is not as ubiquitous yet to provide a sufficient avenue to reach the widest populace. How is a young guy in Kericho without a computer or a smartphone supposed to access this info? cyber?
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 4:32 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
Listers,
The photo above is of one of the ten pages taken up by the Parliamentary Service Communication in the 3 leading dailies inviting job applicants for interviews.
I rest my case.
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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@Mark, Even if we say that there are only 10% of the projected number of active sim cards making it 2.8 million which is still ten times more than the reach of the newspaper. In addition the cost of an SMS is 2/- that of a news paper is 50 shillings, is it me or is this math a little basic? Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Tuesday, 1 October 2013, 20:05 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Technophobia haina tiba, na haitafutwi I have a problem with the interpretation of no.s. For starters, the mobile penetration rate is rather debatable seeing as the CCK doesn't detail how/if they filter through individuals owning multiple lines and whether the lines are active or not. Also whether they are used in active mobile phones or in the "internet of things" i.e ATMs, automated car tracking gadgets etc. In my estimation the CCK works with Simcards sold. The info on the site also doesn't seem to be unto date. There is also the simple human habit of borrowing newspapers. Upcountry in my home town, the newspaper at the local roadside hotel is read by upwards of 200 people. These are people who wouldn't be bothered with internet on their phones. the few papers sold by the local vendor wind up being read by everybody, from the young to the old. It is also easy to archive the newspaper for reference tomorrow. Try digging up the link to an old article from last week and put yourself in the shoes of a 50 year old who has problems with Mpesa. newspapers are still effective in news dissemination in this part of the world in a way that the internet is yet to catch up. On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 5:56 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: @mark
Newspaper circulation 250,000 copies (all 4 dailies) http://www.pressreference.com/Gu-Ku/Kenya.html Daily Newspaper penetration 40% People with Internet Access 12.9 million Number of mobile phones 28.9 million Mobile signal penetration 70%
Which is the most practical and cost effective method?
Regards
PS. I believe I am vindicated
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi,
00200
Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
________________________________ From: Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Tuesday, 1 October 2013, 17:25 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Technophobia haina tiba, na haitafutwi
@robert Exactly what did you want them to do? post it on their website and be satisfied with a job well done? Internet penetration is still abysmally low and is not as ubiquitous yet to provide a sufficient avenue to reach the widest populace. How is a young guy in Kericho without a computer or a smartphone supposed to access this info? cyber?
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 4:32 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Listers,
The photo above is of one of the ten pages taken up by the Parliamentary Service Communication in the 3 leading dailies inviting job applicants for interviews.
I rest my case.
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
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-- Regards,
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Bobby, We need to be consistent with our messages. First we challenge Govt to be open, transparent, use public media to disclose procurement and recruitment processes. Then in the same breath we criticize them when it comes out looking as above? Let us not forget that the guidelines are now firmly entrenched in laws and regulations. Maybe a slightly different tact of discussing what kind of legal framework would support a more efficient use of various media might be more appropriate? Mblayo On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 8:31 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
@Mark,
Even if we say that there are only 10% of the projected number of active sim cards making it 2.8 million which is still ten times more than the reach of the newspaper.
In addition the cost of an SMS is 2/- that of a news paper is 50 shillings, is it me or is this math a little basic?
Regards
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
------------------------------ *From:* Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> *To:* robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Tuesday, 1 October 2013, 20:05
*Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Technophobia haina tiba, na haitafutwi
I have a problem with the interpretation of no.s.
For starters, the mobile penetration rate is rather debatable seeing as the CCK doesn't detail how/if they filter through individuals owning multiple lines and whether the lines are active or not. Also whether they are used in active mobile phones or in the "internet of things" i.e ATMs, automated car tracking gadgets etc.
In my estimation the CCK works with Simcards sold. The info on the site also doesn't seem to be unto date. There is also the simple human habit of borrowing newspapers. Upcountry in my home town, the newspaper at the local roadside hotel is read by upwards of 200 people. These are people who wouldn't be bothered with internet on their phones. the few papers sold by the local vendor wind up being read by everybody, from the young to the old. It is also easy to archive the newspaper for reference tomorrow. Try digging up the link to an old article from last week and put yourself in the shoes of a 50 year old who has problems with Mpesa.
newspapers are still effective in news dissemination in this part of the world in a way that the internet is yet to catch up.
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 5:56 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
@mark
Newspaper circulation 250,000 copies (all 4 dailies) http://www.pressreference.com/Gu-Ku/Kenya.html Daily Newspaper penetration 40% People with Internet Access 12.9 million Number of mobile phones 28.9 million Mobile signal penetration 70%
Which is the most practical and cost effective method?
Regards
PS. I believe I am vindicated
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
------------------------------ *From:* Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> *To:* robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Tuesday, 1 October 2013, 17:25 *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Technophobia haina tiba, na haitafutwi
@robert Exactly what did you want them to do? post it on their website and be satisfied with a job well done? Internet penetration is still abysmally low and is not as ubiquitous yet to provide a sufficient avenue to reach the widest populace. How is a young guy in Kericho without a computer or a smartphone supposed to access this info? cyber?
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 4:32 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
Listers,
The photo above is of one of the ten pages taken up by the Parliamentary Service Communication in the 3 leading dailies inviting job applicants for interviews.
I rest my case.
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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@Brian, You and Mark have lost me, so what exactly is our role as KICTANET if we cannot advocate for the use of technology? Based on the figures I had provided earlier newspapers no longer qualify as mass media therefore it is not a "public media" so by your definition and assertion by not publishing on public a.k.a social media they have not been open and transparent therefore a travesty has been committed. In addition we have more public listening to radio than read newspapers therefore the list of names and all advertisements must be read aloud on radio. Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wednesday, 2 October 2013, 11:58 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Technophobia haina tiba, na haitafutwi Bobby, We need to be consistent with our messages. First we challenge Govt to be open, transparent, use public media to disclose procurement and recruitment processes. Then in the same breath we criticize them when it comes out looking as above? Let us not forget that the guidelines are now firmly entrenched in laws and regulations. Maybe a slightly different tact of discussing what kind of legal framework would support a more efficient use of various media might be more appropriate? Mblayo On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 8:31 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: @Mark,
Even if we say that there are only 10% of the projected number of active sim cards making it 2.8 million which is still ten times more than the reach of the newspaper.
In addition the cost of an SMS is 2/- that of a news paper is 50 shillings, is it me or is this math a little basic?
Regards
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
________________________________
From: Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Tuesday, 1 October 2013, 20:05
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Technophobia haina tiba, na haitafutwi
I have a problem with the interpretation of no.s.
For starters, the mobile penetration rate is rather debatable seeing as the CCK doesn't detail how/if they filter through individuals owning multiple lines and whether the lines are active or not. Also whether they are used in active mobile phones or in the "internet of things" i.e ATMs, automated car tracking gadgets etc.
In my estimation the CCK works with Simcards sold. The info on the site also doesn't seem to be unto date. There is also the simple human habit of borrowing newspapers. Upcountry in my home town, the newspaper at the local roadside hotel is read by upwards of 200 people. These are people who wouldn't be bothered with internet on their phones. the few papers sold by the local vendor wind up being read by everybody, from the young to the old. It is also easy to archive the newspaper for reference tomorrow. Try digging up the link to an old article from last week and put yourself in the shoes of a 50 year old who has problems with Mpesa.
newspapers are still effective in news dissemination in this part of the world in a way that the internet is yet to catch up.
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 5:56 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
@mark
Newspaper circulation 250,000 copies (all 4 dailies) http://www.pressreference.com/Gu-Ku/Kenya.html Daily Newspaper penetration 40% People with Internet Access 12.9 million Number of mobile phones 28.9 million Mobile signal penetration 70%
Which is the most practical and cost effective method?
Regards
PS. I believe I am vindicated
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi,
00200
Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
________________________________ From: Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Tuesday, 1 October 2013, 17:25 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Technophobia haina tiba, na haitafutwi
@robert Exactly what did you want them to do? post it on their website and be satisfied with a job well done? Internet penetration is still abysmally low and is not as ubiquitous yet to provide a sufficient avenue to reach the widest populace. How is a young guy in Kericho without a computer or a smartphone supposed to access this info? cyber?
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 4:32 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Listers,
The photo above is of one of the ten pages taken up by the Parliamentary Service Communication in the 3 leading dailies inviting job applicants for interviews.
I rest my case.
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
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@Bobby, Advocacy comes in many shapes and sizes. Over the years I have learnt that one needs to use the most appropriate form according to the mood of the moment, stakeholders who need to be influenced, and specific situation being addressed. My advice is that this particular topic is better addressed by making concrete proposals for legislative and regulatory review. But as Clem has already pointed out, attempts are being made to be as "E" as possible... Laudable steps. Best regards, Mblayo On Wednesday, October 2, 2013, robert yawe wrote:
@Brian,
You and Mark have lost me, so what exactly is our role as KICTANET if we cannot advocate for the use of technology?
Based on the figures I had provided earlier newspapers no longer qualify as mass media therefore it is not a "public media" so by your definition and assertion by not publishing on public a.k.a social media they have not been open and transparent therefore a travesty has been committed.
In addition we have more public listening to radio than read newspapers therefore the list of names and all advertisements must be read aloud on radio.
Regards
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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Bobby,
We need to be consistent with our messages. First we challenge Govt to be open, transparent, use public media to disclose procurement and recruitment processes. Then in the same breath we criticize them when it comes out looking as above? Let us not forget that the guidelines are now firmly entrenched in laws and regulations. Maybe a slightly different tact of discussing what kind of legal framework would support a more efficient use of various media might be more appropriate?
Mblayo
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 8:31 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
@Mark,
Even if we say that there are only 10% of the projected number of active sim cards making it 2.8 million which is still ten times more than the reach of the newspaper.
In addition the cost of an SMS is 2/- that of a news paper is 50 shillings, is it me or is this math a little basic?
Regards
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
------------------------------ *From:* Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> *To:* robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Tuesday, 1 October 2013, 20:05
*Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Technophobia haina tiba, na haitafutwi
I have a problem with the interpretation of no.s.
For starters, the mobile penetration rate is rather debatable seeing as the CCK doesn't detail how/if they filter through individuals owning multiple lines and whether the lines are active or not. Also whether they are used in active mobile phones or in the "internet of things" i.e ATMs, automated car tracking gadgets etc.
In my estimation the CCK works with Simcards sold. The info on the site also doesn't seem to be unto date. There is also the simple human habit of borrowing newspapers. Upcountry in my home town, the newspaper at the local roadside hotel is read by upwards of 200 people. These are people who wouldn't be bothered with internet on their phones. the few papers sold by the local vendor wind up being read by everybody, from the young to the old. It is also easy to archive the newspaper for reference tomorrow. Try digging up the link to an old article from last week and put yourself in the shoes of a 50 year old who has problems with Mpesa.
newspapers are still effective in news dissemination in this part of the world in a way that the internet is yet to catch up.
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 5:56 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
@mark
Newspaper circulation 250,000 copies (all 4 dailies) <http://www.pressreference.com/Gu-Ku/Kenya.html>
Robert, Two cents worth... Your "photo" is noted. However see the end of that advert reads and I quote "The information contained here is also published on the Parliamentary websitewww.parliament.go.keon the link“VACANCIES 2013” I confirm the same details are the site and been there for past week or so. Clearly you could understand Parliament is in Nairobi and many of its people may be technosavvy but you don't want to leave out a large constituency of Kenyans (the target of the info) who may not have access to Internet and whose source of information is the print media. they are in Mashinani and perhaps these jobs are more to them than those of us in the city. Clement Disclosure: You may want to know I work for Parliament. ________________________________ From: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> To: c_nyandiere@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2013 4:32 PM Subject: [kictanet] Technophobia haina tiba, na haitafutwi Listers, The photo above is of one of the ten pages taken up by the Parliamentary Service Communication in the 3 leading dailies inviting job applicants for interviews. I rest my case. Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/c_nyandiere%40yahoo.co... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
@Clem, Thanks for your appearance, why didn't the PSC just send out SMS that would reach those in the mashinani much more efficiently especially those in places where only Friday newspapers are available? Regards Disclaimer: I do not work for any of the mobile service providers Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: CLEM NYANDIERE <c_nyandiere@yahoo.com> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wednesday, 2 October 2013, 14:22 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Technophobia haina tiba, na haitafutwi Robert, Two cents worth... Your "photo" is noted. However see the end of that advert reads and I quote "The information contained here is also published on the Parliamentary websitewww.parliament.go.keon the link“VACANCIES 2013” I confirm the same details are the site and been there for past week or so. Clearly you could understand Parliament is in Nairobi and many of its people may be technosavvy but you don't want to leave out a large constituency of Kenyans (the target of the info) who may not have access to Internet and whose source of information is the print media. they are in Mashinani and perhaps these jobs are more to them than those of us in the city. Clement Disclosure: You may want to know I work for Parliament. ________________________________ From: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> To: c_nyandiere@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2013 4:32 PM Subject: [kictanet] Technophobia haina tiba, na haitafutwi Listers, The photo above is of one of the ten pages taken up by the Parliamentary Service Communication in the 3 leading dailies inviting job applicants for interviews. I rest my case. Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/c_nyandiere%40yahoo.co... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
Robert As we say in Mombasa:- Ushasema ushasema! :) Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "Kujikwaa si kuanguka, bali ni kwenda mbele" (To stumble is not to fall but a sign of going forward) - Swahili Proverb Sent from my iPad
On Oct 2, 2013, at 3:45 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
@Clem,
Thanks for your appearance, why didn't the PSC just send out SMS that would reach those in the mashinani much more efficiently especially those in places where only Friday newspapers are available?
Regards
Disclaimer: I do not work for any of the mobile service providers
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
From: CLEM NYANDIERE <c_nyandiere@yahoo.com> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wednesday, 2 October 2013, 14:22 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Technophobia haina tiba, na haitafutwi
Robert, Two cents worth... Your "photo" is noted. However see the end of that advert reads and I quote "The information contained here is also published on the Parliamentary website www.parliament.go.ke on the link “VACANCIES 2013” I confirm the same details are the site and been there for past week or so.
Clearly you could understand Parliament is in Nairobi and many of its people may be technosavvy but you don't want to leave out a large constituency of Kenyans (the target of the info) who may not have access to Internet and whose source of information is the print media. they are in Mashinani and perhaps these jobs are more to them than those of us in the city.
Clement
Disclosure: You may want to know I work for Parliament.
From: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> To: c_nyandiere@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2013 4:32 PM Subject: [kictanet] Technophobia haina tiba, na haitafutwi
Listers,
The photo above is of one of the ten pages taken up by the Parliamentary Service Communication in the 3 leading dailies inviting job applicants for interviews.
I rest my case.
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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...Bulk sms to the 14K plus Kenyans is in the offing Merci ________________________________ From: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> To: CLEM NYANDIERE <c_nyandiere@yahoo.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2013 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Technophobia haina tiba, na haitafutwi @Clem, Thanks for your appearance, why didn't the PSC just send out SMS that would reach those in the mashinani much more efficiently especially those in places where only Friday newspapers are available? Regards Disclaimer: I do not work for any of the mobile service providers Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: CLEM NYANDIERE <c_nyandiere@yahoo.com> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wednesday, 2 October 2013, 14:22 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Technophobia haina tiba, na haitafutwi Robert, Two cents worth... Your "photo" is noted. However see the end of that advert reads and I quote "The information contained here is also published on the Parliamentary websitewww.parliament.go.keon the link“VACANCIES 2013” I confirm the same details are the site and been there for past week or so. Clearly you could understand Parliament is in Nairobi and many of its people may be technosavvy but you don't want to leave out a large constituency of Kenyans (the target of the info) who may not have access to Internet and whose source of information is the print media. they are in Mashinani and perhaps these jobs are more to them than those of us in the city. Clement Disclosure: You may want to know I work for Parliament. ________________________________ From: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> To: c_nyandiere@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2013 4:32 PM Subject: [kictanet] Technophobia haina tiba, na haitafutwi Listers, The photo above is of one of the ten pages taken up by the Parliamentary Service Communication in the 3 leading dailies inviting job applicants for interviews. I rest my case. Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/c_nyandiere%40yahoo.co... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
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robert yawe