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Re: IG Discussions- Day 3 of 10: Infrastructure Issues-Submarine Cables - Cyber Security (Harry Delano) Fellow discussants, One thing to also note with regard to the much anticipated Fibre landing is how to content with the security challenges that will accompany this 'Super Highway" So apart from the other topics, that have been covered so well,allow me to introduce a new angle and momentarily tackle 'The Security challenges posed by this noble venture' -Cyber Security. It is one thing to deal with a stream flowing through your garden, harmlessly but productively watering it, and quite another dealing with a 'flood gate' suddenly let loose on your land, and which you have had little or no time to prepare yourself to handle. Indeed as much as this would be a Top Tier connectivity, right now , truth be told - most of the service providers leave tackling security to end users who in most cases are ill equipped to deal with internetwork borne threats. Networks are badly exposed, including sensitive data, copywright material, and organizational information that would make it a field day for identity thieves, and who knows? - a possible cyber attack on our different national wide infrastructure when they go online. Blended threats propagate much faster on faster connections. Currently,a standard round trip time of about 800-1300 msec, for most Tier 1 & 2 Service providers wears off the patience of most hackers presently prowling the net, which is a good thing for us, but not for long as these Marine links lands in within the next few months. With this in mind, how prepared are we on this front..? And by that I mean, the Government, the Service providers, the Private stake holders, including the Educational institutions. Have we made an assessment of our cyber security levels, to date? Are our sensitive Data Centres secure..., or will they be overly exposed when this time comes? And at what cost will we upgrade these systems..? With increasing E-commerce activities, and other online transactions are we 'foolproof? Are our cybersecurity regulations up to the task, to protect us...? Certainly, we need to take the necessary measures,- a systematic approach and prepare ourselves to deal With these challenges as the Threat environment is certainly set to shift for us, especially as a country on the move in Communication Technology. The good news is, it is an undertaking to look forward to with a lot of expectation, and we need to position ourselves to reap the maximum benefits that will accrue thereof. If you would ask me the score for this - Our Cybersecurity preparedness to handle, the onset of the Marine Fibre = 1 Harry Delano. Integrated Networks and Data Systems. -----Original Message----- From: kictanet-bounces+harry=inds.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=inds.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 12:00 PM To: Harry Delano Subject: kictanet Digest, Vol 23, Issue 43 Send kictanet mailing list submissions to kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke You can reach the person managing the list at kictanet-owner@lists.kictanet.or.ke When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. A wider audiance (robert yawe) 2. Re: IG Discussions- Day 3 of 10: Infrastructure Issues-Submarine Cables (John Walubengo) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:56:59 +0000 (GMT) From: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: [kictanet] A wider audiance To: Kictanet Mail list <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Message-ID: <796042.73588.qm@web27801.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi, I have been been contributing articles to a new IT magazine called CIO (chief information officer), as you may be aware there currently isn't any good and regular ICT local magazine and this magazine aims to fill this gap. The magazine is in its 3rd issue please get a copy and read my articles as well as others which are well thought through and cover local ICT issues. Due to space issues some of my articles have needed to be shortened, if you need to read the entire unsensored version please send me an email. Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
Harry, Further to your argument, let's not underestimate the fac that the cost of not securing our infrastructure and data far outweighs the cost of prevention. Nevertheless, there are some effort underway to try and bring ICT security awareness. Please see http://secureict.co.ke Regards, Evans On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 8:19 AM, Harry Delano <harry@inds.co.ke> wrote:
Re: IG Discussions- Day 3 of 10: Infrastructure Issues-Submarine Cables - Cyber Security (Harry Delano)
Fellow discussants,
One thing to also note with regard to the much anticipated Fibre landing is how to content with the security challenges that will accompany this 'Super Highway" So apart from the other topics, that have been covered so well,allow me to introduce a new angle and momentarily tackle 'The Security challenges posed by this noble venture' -Cyber Security.
It is one thing to deal with a stream flowing through your garden, harmlessly but productively watering it, and quite another dealing with a 'flood gate' suddenly let loose on your land, and which you have had little or no time to prepare yourself to handle.
Indeed as much as this would be a Top Tier connectivity, right now , truth be told - most of the service providers leave tackling security to end users
who in most cases are ill equipped to deal with internetwork borne threats. Networks are badly exposed, including sensitive data, copywright material, and organizational information that would make it a field day for identity thieves, and who knows? - a possible cyber attack on our different national wide infrastructure when they go online.
Blended threats propagate much faster on faster connections. Currently,a standard round trip time of about 800-1300 msec, for most Tier 1 & 2 Service providers wears off the patience of most hackers presently prowling the net, which is a good thing for us, but not for long as these Marine links lands in within the next few months.
With this in mind, how prepared are we on this front..? And by that I mean, the Government, the Service providers, the Private stake holders, including the Educational institutions.
Have we made an assessment of our cyber security levels, to date? Are our sensitive Data Centres secure..., or will they be overly exposed when this time comes? And at what cost will we upgrade these systems..? With increasing E-commerce activities, and other online transactions are we 'foolproof? Are our cybersecurity regulations up to the task, to protect us...?
Certainly, we need to take the necessary measures,- a systematic approach and prepare ourselves to deal With these challenges as the Threat environment is certainly set to shift for us, especially as a country on the move in Communication Technology.
The good news is, it is an undertaking to look forward to with a lot of expectation, and we need to position ourselves to reap the maximum benefits that will accrue thereof.
If you would ask me the score for this - Our Cybersecurity preparedness to handle, the onset of the Marine Fibre = 1
Harry Delano. Integrated Networks and Data Systems.
-----Original Message----- From: kictanet-bounces+harry=inds.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry <kictanet-bounces%2Bharry>=inds.co.ke@ lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 12:00 PM To: Harry Delano Subject: kictanet Digest, Vol 23, Issue 43
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Message: 1 Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:56:59 +0000 (GMT) From: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: [kictanet] A wider audiance To: Kictanet Mail list <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Message-ID: <796042.73588.qm@web27801.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hi,
I have been been contributing articles to a new IT magazine called CIO (chief information officer), as you may be aware there currently isn't any good and regular ICT local magazine and this magazine aims to fill this gap.
The magazine is in its 3rd issue please get a copy and read my articles as well as others which are well thought through and cover local ICT issues.
Due to space issues some of my articles have needed to be shortened, if you need to read the entire unsensored version please send me an email.
Regards
Robert Yawe
KAY System Technologies Ltd
Phoenix House, 6th Floor
P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
Harry and Evans: thanx for your insights...however, I urge u to hold your horses and refer to the program outline posted earlier but repeated below...u will note that there's a whole 4days to discuss security. All: Another point - plse reply against the pre-set subject line (it makes it easier two ways: (1) allows you to post against belated posts and (2) makes the work of the report writer less complex. regards. walu. +++rest of the 2week discussion program+++++++ 1. General Background (1day-Walu) *IG Defn and Rational *National IG Forum :- 2008 Status Report 2. Infrastructure Issues (4Days- Walu) Undersea Fiber Cable and its impact on: (2d) *Access, Affordability, Content and Quality Management of Critical Internet Resources (2d) *IPv6 & Country code Top Level Domain (ccTLD) Management *National IXPs/NFOB 3. Cyber-Security and Trust (4Days-Mwende) e-Crimes against (2d) *Consumers/Users (Privacy Issues) *Data and Infrastructure (Data Security) Developing a national cyber-security strategies (2d) *What are the Legal Provisions (KCA Act 2008?) *Developing National Cyber-Security Strategies(CSIRT)/(CERT) 4. Socio-economic Issues (2Days - Walu) *ePayments (MPESA, ZAP, Digital Certificates)-(1d) *Regulating a Converged Environment-(1d) 5. Closure and Way Forward (1Day-Mwende) *Examine the desirability and continuation of the IG Forum --- On Wed, 4/29/09, Evans Kahuthu <ifani.kinos@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Evans Kahuthu <ifani.kinos@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 23, Issue 43 To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: helpdesk@inds.co.ke, "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 7:48 PM Harry, Further to your argument, let's not underestimate the fac that the cost of not securing our infrastructure and data far outweighs the cost of prevention. Nevertheless, there are some effort underway to try and bring ICT security awareness.
Please see http://secureict.co.ke
Regards, Evans
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 8:19 AM, Harry Delano <harry@inds.co.ke> wrote:
Re: IG Discussions- Day 3 of 10: Infrastructure Issues-Submarine Cables - Cyber Security (Harry
Delano)
Fellow discussants,
One thing to also note with regard to the much
how to content with the security challenges that will accompany this 'Super Highway" So apart from the other topics, that have been covered so well,allow me to introduce a new angle and momentarily tackle 'The Security challenges posed by this noble venture' -Cyber Security.
It is one thing to deal with a stream flowing through your garden, harmlessly but productively watering it, and quite another dealing with a 'flood gate' suddenly let loose on your land, and which you have had little or no time to prepare yourself to handle.
Indeed as much as this would be a Top Tier connectivity, right now , truth be told - most of the service providers leave tackling security to end users
who in most cases are ill equipped to deal with internetwork borne threats. Networks are badly exposed, including sensitive data, copywright material, and organizational information that would make it a field day for identity thieves, and who knows? - a possible cyber attack on our different national wide infrastructure when they go online.
Blended threats propagate much faster on faster connections. Currently,a standard round trip time of about 800-1300 msec, for most Tier 1 & 2 Service providers wears off the patience of most hackers presently prowling
anticipated Fibre landing is the net, which is a
good thing for us, but not for long as these Marine links lands in within the next few months.
With this in mind, how prepared are we on this front..? And by that I mean, the Government, the Service providers, the Private stake holders, including the Educational institutions.
Have we made an assessment of our cyber security levels, to date? Are our sensitive Data Centres secure..., or will they be overly exposed when this time comes? And at what cost will we upgrade these systems..? With increasing E-commerce activities, and other online transactions are we 'foolproof? Are our cybersecurity regulations up to the task, to protect us...?
Certainly, we need to take the necessary measures,- a systematic approach and prepare ourselves to deal With these challenges as the Threat environment is certainly set to shift for us, especially as a country on the move in Communication Technology.
The good news is, it is an undertaking to look forward to with a lot of expectation, and we need to position ourselves to reap the maximum benefits that will accrue thereof.
If you would ask me the score for this - Our Cybersecurity preparedness to handle, the onset of the Marine Fibre = 1
Harry Delano. Integrated Networks and Data Systems.
-----Original Message----- From: kictanet-bounces+harry=inds.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry <kictanet-bounces%2Bharry>=inds.co.ke@ lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 12:00 PM To: Harry Delano Subject: kictanet Digest, Vol 23, Issue 43
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1. A wider audiance (robert yawe) 2. Re: IG Discussions- Day 3 of 10: Infrastructure Issues-Submarine Cables (John Walubengo)
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Hi,
I have been been contributing articles to a new IT magazine called CIO (chief information officer), as you may be aware there currently isn't any good and regular ICT local magazine and this magazine aims to fill this gap.
The magazine is in its 3rd issue please get a copy and read my articles as well as others which are well thought through and cover local ICT issues.
Due to space issues some of my articles have needed to be shortened, if you need to read the entire unsensored version please send me an email.
Regards
Robert Yawe
KAY System Technologies Ltd
Phoenix House, 6th Floor
P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
Bw. Walubengo I have brief comments: *Access * the undersea cable provies opportunity to access other international submarine cables and will no doubt enhance real-time interactive communication; the stallite delays cureently being experienced will be overcome. Howver, this being the supply side, the demand side has to be quickly stimulated and developed in tandem by way of deploying national backhaul systems and broad band access to the end users; and creation of awareness of the enormous potential of the undersea cable. Human capacity not only to use the but also operate and manage the ICTs should remain resonating theme. *Affordability* ** Will partly depend on the market forces and on the business models adopted by the competing parties in the undersea deployment; however we can expect reasonable pricing, at least significantly lower than the existing rates *Content* ** This needs to be viewed in context, it could be content residing offshore or local content; my view is that the efforts already being exerted in development of local content should be intensified for bothfor local consumption and for export. In this regard, the undersea cable in itself is not necessary and sugfficient in driving content; local entrepreneurs need to be proactive in creatgion of the content *Quality* In my view there are two sides to this qulity of international links and quality on/in the domestic links. In this regard, it would not be of significant impact if the quality of national/domestic links or servies is improved. Thanks Thomas Senaji On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 7:24 PM, John Walubengo <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Harry and Evans:
thanx for your insights...however, I urge u to hold your horses and refer to the program outline posted earlier but repeated below...u will note that there's a whole 4days to discuss security.
All: Another point - plse reply against the pre-set subject line (it makes it easier two ways: (1) allows you to post against belated posts and (2) makes the work of the report writer less complex.
regards.
walu.
+++rest of the 2week discussion program+++++++
1. General Background (1day-Walu) *IG Defn and Rational *National IG Forum :- 2008 Status Report 2. Infrastructure Issues (4Days- Walu) Undersea Fiber Cable and its impact on: (2d) *Access, Affordability, Content and Quality Management of Critical Internet Resources (2d) *IPv6 & Country code Top Level Domain (ccTLD) Management *National IXPs/NFOB 3. Cyber-Security and Trust (4Days-Mwende) e-Crimes against (2d) *Consumers/Users (Privacy Issues) *Data and Infrastructure (Data Security) Developing a national cyber-security strategies (2d) *What are the Legal Provisions (KCA Act 2008?) *Developing National Cyber-Security Strategies(CSIRT)/(CERT) 4. Socio-economic Issues (2Days - Walu) *ePayments (MPESA, ZAP, Digital Certificates)-(1d) *Regulating a Converged Environment-(1d) 5. Closure and Way Forward (1Day-Mwende) *Examine the desirability and continuation of the IG Forum
--- On Wed, 4/29/09, Evans Kahuthu <ifani.kinos@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Evans Kahuthu <ifani.kinos@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 23, Issue 43 To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: helpdesk@inds.co.ke, "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 7:48 PM Harry, Further to your argument, let's not underestimate the fac that the cost of not securing our infrastructure and data far outweighs the cost of prevention. Nevertheless, there are some effort underway to try and bring ICT security awareness.
Please see http://secureict.co.ke
Regards, Evans
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 8:19 AM, Harry Delano <harry@inds.co.ke> wrote:
Re: IG Discussions- Day 3 of 10: Infrastructure Issues-Submarine Cables - Cyber Security (Harry
Delano)
Fellow discussants,
One thing to also note with regard to the much
how to content with the security challenges that will accompany this 'Super Highway" So apart from the other topics, that have been covered so well,allow me to introduce a new angle and momentarily tackle 'The Security challenges posed by this noble venture' -Cyber Security.
It is one thing to deal with a stream flowing through your garden, harmlessly but productively watering it, and quite another dealing with a 'flood gate' suddenly let loose on your land, and which you have had little or no time to prepare yourself to handle.
Indeed as much as this would be a Top Tier connectivity, right now , truth be told - most of the service providers leave tackling security to end users
who in most cases are ill equipped to deal with internetwork borne threats. Networks are badly exposed, including sensitive data, copywright material, and organizational information that would make it a field day for identity thieves, and who knows? - a possible cyber attack on our different national wide infrastructure when they go online.
Blended threats propagate much faster on faster connections. Currently,a standard round trip time of about 800-1300 msec, for most Tier 1 & 2 Service providers wears off the patience of most hackers presently prowling
anticipated Fibre landing is the net, which is a
good thing for us, but not for long as these Marine links lands in within the next few months.
With this in mind, how prepared are we on this front..? And by that I mean, the Government, the Service providers, the Private stake holders, including the Educational institutions.
Have we made an assessment of our cyber security levels, to date? Are our sensitive Data Centres secure..., or will they be overly exposed when this time comes? And at what cost will we upgrade these systems..? With increasing E-commerce activities, and other online transactions are we 'foolproof? Are our cybersecurity regulations up to the task, to protect us...?
Certainly, we need to take the necessary measures,- a systematic approach and prepare ourselves to deal With these challenges as the Threat environment is certainly set to shift for us, especially as a country on the move in Communication Technology.
The good news is, it is an undertaking to look forward to with a lot of expectation, and we need to position ourselves to reap the maximum benefits that will accrue thereof.
If you would ask me the score for this - Our Cybersecurity preparedness to handle, the onset of the Marine Fibre = 1
Harry Delano. Integrated Networks and Data Systems.
-----Original Message----- From: kictanet-bounces+harry=inds.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry <kictanet-bounces%2Bharry> <kictanet-bounces%2Bharry>=inds.co.ke@ lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 12:00 PM To: Harry Delano Subject: kictanet Digest, Vol 23, Issue 43
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1. A wider audiance (robert yawe) 2. Re: IG Discussions- Day 3 of 10: Infrastructure Issues-Submarine Cables (John Walubengo)
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Hi,
I have been been contributing articles to a new IT magazine called CIO (chief information officer), as you may be aware there currently isn't any good and regular ICT local magazine and this magazine aims to fill this gap.
The magazine is in its 3rd issue please get a copy and read my articles as well as others which are well thought through and cover local ICT issues.
Due to space issues some of my articles have needed to be shortened, if you need to read the entire unsensored version please send me an email.
Regards
Robert Yawe
KAY System Technologies Ltd
Phoenix House, 6th Floor
P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
participants (4)
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Eng. Thomas Senaji -
Evans Kahuthu -
Harry Delano -
John Walubengo