State to partner with Israeli firm to create online database of Kenyans
Not sure why we need Israelis to build this database for Kenya. They could guide/train us but it is not for non Kenyans to lead its development and management. http://www.nation.co.ke/business/Online-Database-Technology-Public-Servants-... Kenyan State to partner with Israeli firm to create online database of Kenyans Note comments made in 2009..... *Israel Poised To Pass National I.D. Database Law* By Nathan Jeffay Published August 12, 2009, issue of August 21, 2009. HAIFA, ISRAEL — Israel may become the only democratic country to take biometric information from all citizens and store it in a database. The plan, approved by a Knesset committee and set for a final vote in the fall, is expected to pass easily, as the largest opposition party and the government support the bill. But that apparently won’t prevent outraged human rights organizations, academics and grass-roots activists from spending the rest of the summer protesting the plan. Champions of the database say it is crucial for Israel’s security. “The danger to the state in the present situation, in which there is no database of biometric information, is critical,” according to Kadima lawmaker Meir Sheetrit, who drafted the bill. But opponents say that it actually will jeopardize security. “If such a database gets in the hands of a foreign country or terrorist organization, they will be able to identify any Israeli anywhere by their fingerprints or their picture,” claimed computer security expert Eli Biham, dean of computer science at Israel’s leading high-tech research institution, the Haifa-based Technion – Israel Institute of Technology. Read more: http://forward.com/articles/112033/israel-poised-to-pass-national-id-databas...
This is interesting, why? 1. PPPs should be guided by an open and transparent process where GoK advertises for those with intent to partner to apply. This didn't happen. 2. If there is no competition, how do we ensure we are getting value for money? 3. Whatever happened to building some of these solutions locally. Yet another 1000 software engineers jobs we have exported to Israel to help them build more bombs to break up Gaza! Waithaka Ngigi Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya www.A1.io On 17 Aug 2014 01:04, "S.M. Muraya via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Not sure why we need Israelis to build this database for Kenya. They could guide/train us but it is not for non Kenyans to lead its development and management.
http://www.nation.co.ke/business/Online-Database-Technology-Public-Servants-...
Kenyan State to partner with Israeli firm to create online database of Kenyans
Note comments made in 2009.....
*Israel Poised To Pass National I.D. Database Law*
By Nathan Jeffay
Published August 12, 2009, issue of August 21, 2009.
HAIFA, ISRAEL — Israel may become the only democratic country to take biometric information from all citizens and store it in a database.
The plan, approved by a Knesset committee and set for a final vote in the fall, is expected to pass easily, as the largest opposition party and the government support the bill. But that apparently won’t prevent outraged human rights organizations, academics and grass-roots activists from spending the rest of the summer protesting the plan.
Champions of the database say it is crucial for Israel’s security. “The danger to the state in the present situation, in which there is no database of biometric information, is critical,” according to Kadima lawmaker Meir Sheetrit, who drafted the bill.
But opponents say that it actually will jeopardize security. “If such a database gets in the hands of a foreign country or terrorist organization, they will be able to identify any Israeli anywhere by their fingerprints or their picture,” claimed computer security expert Eli Biham, dean of computer science at Israel’s leading high-tech research institution, the Haifa-based Technion – Israel Institute of Technology.
Read more: http://forward.com/articles/112033/israel-poised-to-pass-national-id-databas...
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I am curious as to what technology the Israelis will use that our local guys simply cannot fathom? Or is the code written in Hebrew?? On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
This is interesting, why?
1. PPPs should be guided by an open and transparent process where GoK advertises for those with intent to partner to apply. This didn't happen.
2. If there is no competition, how do we ensure we are getting value for money?
3. Whatever happened to building some of these solutions locally. Yet another 1000 software engineers jobs we have exported to Israel to help them build more bombs to break up Gaza!
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io On 17 Aug 2014 01:04, "S.M. Muraya via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Not sure why we need Israelis to build this database for Kenya. They could guide/train us but it is not for non Kenyans to lead its development and management.
http://www.nation.co.ke/business/Online-Database-Technology-Public-Servants-...
Kenyan State to partner with Israeli firm to create online database of Kenyans
Note comments made in 2009.....
*Israel Poised To Pass National I.D. Database Law*
By Nathan Jeffay
Published August 12, 2009, issue of August 21, 2009.
HAIFA, ISRAEL — Israel may become the only democratic country to take biometric information from all citizens and store it in a database.
The plan, approved by a Knesset committee and set for a final vote in the fall, is expected to pass easily, as the largest opposition party and the government support the bill. But that apparently won’t prevent outraged human rights organizations, academics and grass-roots activists from spending the rest of the summer protesting the plan.
Champions of the database say it is crucial for Israel’s security. “The danger to the state in the present situation, in which there is no database of biometric information, is critical,” according to Kadima lawmaker Meir Sheetrit, who drafted the bill.
But opponents say that it actually will jeopardize security. “If such a database gets in the hands of a foreign country or terrorist organization, they will be able to identify any Israeli anywhere by their fingerprints or their picture,” claimed computer security expert Eli Biham, dean of computer science at Israel’s leading high-tech research institution, the Haifa-based Technion – Israel Institute of Technology.
Read more: http://forward.com/articles/112033/israel-poised-to-pass-national-id-databas...
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The reason we carry out customized developer training is to identify upcoming talent/team players. How many local firms did they interview before deciding to entrust foreigners with such a system.. Through the treasury, the concerned Department/Service, could even borrow directly from counties. Some counties may be willing to earn some interest/skills by loaning funds to such projects Regards Murigi / Stanley Muraya *"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32* On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
This is interesting, why?
1. PPPs should be guided by an open and transparent process where GoK advertises for those with intent to partner to apply. This didn't happen.
2. If there is no competition, how do we ensure we are getting value for money?
3. Whatever happened to building some of these solutions locally. Yet another 1000 software engineers jobs we have exported to Israel to help them build more bombs to break up Gaza!
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io On 17 Aug 2014 01:04, "S.M. Muraya via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Not sure why we need Israelis to build this database for Kenya. They could guide/train us but it is not for non Kenyans to lead its development and management.
http://www.nation.co.ke/business/Online-Database-Technology-Public-Servants-...
Kenyan State to partner with Israeli firm to create online database of Kenyans
Note comments made in 2009.....
*Israel Poised To Pass National I.D. Database Law*
By Nathan Jeffay
Published August 12, 2009, issue of August 21, 2009.
HAIFA, ISRAEL — Israel may become the only democratic country to take biometric information from all citizens and store it in a database.
The plan, approved by a Knesset committee and set for a final vote in the fall, is expected to pass easily, as the largest opposition party and the government support the bill. But that apparently won’t prevent outraged human rights organizations, academics and grass-roots activists from spending the rest of the summer protesting the plan.
Champions of the database say it is crucial for Israel’s security. “The danger to the state in the present situation, in which there is no database of biometric information, is critical,” according to Kadima lawmaker Meir Sheetrit, who drafted the bill.
But opponents say that it actually will jeopardize security. “If such a database gets in the hands of a foreign country or terrorist organization, they will be able to identify any Israeli anywhere by their fingerprints or their picture,” claimed computer security expert Eli Biham, dean of computer science at Israel’s leading high-tech research institution, the Haifa-based Technion – Israel Institute of Technology.
Read more: http://forward.com/articles/112033/israel-poised-to-pass-national-id-databas...
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http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/American-company-to-track-... On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 9:28 AM, S.M. Muraya via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
The reason we carry out customized developer training is to identify upcoming talent/team players.
How many local firms did they interview before deciding to entrust foreigners with such a system..
Through the treasury, the concerned Department/Service, could even borrow directly from counties.
Some counties may be willing to earn some interest/skills by loaning funds to such projects
Regards
Murigi / Stanley Muraya
*"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32*
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
This is interesting, why?
1. PPPs should be guided by an open and transparent process where GoK advertises for those with intent to partner to apply. This didn't happen.
2. If there is no competition, how do we ensure we are getting value for money?
3. Whatever happened to building some of these solutions locally. Yet another 1000 software engineers jobs we have exported to Israel to help them build more bombs to break up Gaza!
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io On 17 Aug 2014 01:04, "S.M. Muraya via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Not sure why we need Israelis to build this database for Kenya. They could guide/train us but it is not for non Kenyans to lead its development and management.
http://www.nation.co.ke/business/Online-Database-Technology-Public-Servants-...
Kenyan State to partner with Israeli firm to create online database of Kenyans
Note comments made in 2009.....
*Israel Poised To Pass National I.D. Database Law*
By Nathan Jeffay
Published August 12, 2009, issue of August 21, 2009.
HAIFA, ISRAEL -- Israel may become the only democratic country to take biometric information from all citizens and store it in a database.
The plan, approved by a Knesset committee and set for a final vote in the fall, is expected to pass easily, as the largest opposition party and the government support the bill. But that apparently won't prevent outraged human rights organizations, academics and grass-roots activists from spending the rest of the summer protesting the plan.
Champions of the database say it is crucial for Israel's security. "The danger to the state in the present situation, in which there is no database of biometric information, is critical," according to Kadima lawmaker Meir Sheetrit, who drafted the bill.
But opponents say that it actually will jeopardize security. "If such a database gets in the hands of a foreign country or terrorist organization, they will be able to identify any Israeli anywhere by their fingerprints or their picture," claimed computer security expert Eli Biham, dean of computer science at Israel's leading high-tech research institution, the Haifa-based Technion - Israel Institute of Technology.
Read more: http://forward.com/articles/112033/israel-poised-to-pass-national-id-databas...
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Muraya, I am actually very very concerned to let our government store *ALL MY* biometrics in a digital form. The problem with Biometrics is that if there is a breach of that database, and in our case here, there most likely will be given GoK's lackadaisical attitude towards digital security, you cannot tell the user to simply *change their passwords* as you are born with your Biometrics and you live with them for life. If the Government needs to store Biometrics, we should lobby they only keep the left-hand thumbprint, so if that's stolen, and it will be stolen, I have 9 other fingers reserved for our other personal biometric uses. Fast forward to modern world, Bioemtrics devices are as ubiquitous as Keyboards, infact employing a Biometric Systems nowdays even for HR purposes is almost a trivial thing to do. Every operating platform today has a credible biometric engine, just waiting for developers to take use them, so why do we have to get a firm to implement this for us, while we can very easily do this locally? The answer, yet again, lies in that Ksh 9B Rgds On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 9:28 AM, S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya@gmail.com> wrote:
The reason we carry out customized developer training is to identify upcoming talent/team players.
How many local firms did they interview before deciding to entrust foreigners with such a system..
Through the treasury, the concerned Department/Service, could even borrow directly from counties.
Some counties may be willing to earn some interest/skills by loaning funds to such projects
Regards
Murigi / Stanley Muraya
*"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32*
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
This is interesting, why?
1. PPPs should be guided by an open and transparent process where GoK advertises for those with intent to partner to apply. This didn't happen.
2. If there is no competition, how do we ensure we are getting value for money?
3. Whatever happened to building some of these solutions locally. Yet another 1000 software engineers jobs we have exported to Israel to help them build more bombs to break up Gaza!
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io On 17 Aug 2014 01:04, "S.M. Muraya via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Not sure why we need Israelis to build this database for Kenya. They could guide/train us but it is not for non Kenyans to lead its development and management.
http://www.nation.co.ke/business/Online-Database-Technology-Public-Servants-...
Kenyan State to partner with Israeli firm to create online database of Kenyans
Note comments made in 2009.....
*Israel Poised To Pass National I.D. Database Law*
By Nathan Jeffay
Published August 12, 2009, issue of August 21, 2009.
HAIFA, ISRAEL — Israel may become the only democratic country to take biometric information from all citizens and store it in a database.
The plan, approved by a Knesset committee and set for a final vote in the fall, is expected to pass easily, as the largest opposition party and the government support the bill. But that apparently won’t prevent outraged human rights organizations, academics and grass-roots activists from spending the rest of the summer protesting the plan.
Champions of the database say it is crucial for Israel’s security. “The danger to the state in the present situation, in which there is no database of biometric information, is critical,” according to Kadima lawmaker Meir Sheetrit, who drafted the bill.
But opponents say that it actually will jeopardize security. “If such a database gets in the hands of a foreign country or terrorist organization, they will be able to identify any Israeli anywhere by their fingerprints or their picture,” claimed computer security expert Eli Biham, dean of computer science at Israel’s leading high-tech research institution, the Haifa-based Technion – Israel Institute of Technology.
Read more: http://forward.com/articles/112033/israel-poised-to-pass-national-id-databas...
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Haha... Facebook already has much of our "Biometric" Data (which will always be hacked as all systems are) , so I am less concerned about our government building such a database. http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2014/07/08/fbi-may-seek-facebook-data-fo... They key is tracing/dealing with whoever hacks or leaks our data. It is crazy to trust foreigners with such work, with travel advisories scaring expert/expats away plus Africans not being too welcome outside Africa, with our Ebola and all :) On Aug 18, 2014 9:46 AM, "Ngigi Waithaka" <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
Muraya,
I am actually very very concerned to let our government store *ALL MY* biometrics in a digital form.
The problem with Biometrics is that if there is a breach of that database, and in our case here, there most likely will be given GoK's lackadaisical attitude towards digital security, you cannot tell the user to simply *change their passwords* as you are born with your Biometrics and you live with them for life.
If the Government needs to store Biometrics, we should lobby they only keep the left-hand thumbprint, so if that's stolen, and it will be stolen, I have 9 other fingers reserved for our other personal biometric uses.
Fast forward to modern world, Bioemtrics devices are as ubiquitous as Keyboards, infact employing a Biometric Systems nowdays even for HR purposes is almost a trivial thing to do.
Every operating platform today has a credible biometric engine, just waiting for developers to take use them, so why do we have to get a firm to implement this for us, while we can very easily do this locally?
The answer, yet again, lies in that Ksh 9B
Rgds
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 9:28 AM, S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya@gmail.com> wrote:
The reason we carry out customized developer training is to identify upcoming talent/team players.
How many local firms did they interview before deciding to entrust foreigners with such a system..
Through the treasury, the concerned Department/Service, could even borrow directly from counties.
Some counties may be willing to earn some interest/skills by loaning funds to such projects
Regards
Murigi / Stanley Muraya
*"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32*
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
This is interesting, why?
1. PPPs should be guided by an open and transparent process where GoK advertises for those with intent to partner to apply. This didn't happen.
2. If there is no competition, how do we ensure we are getting value for money?
3. Whatever happened to building some of these solutions locally. Yet another 1000 software engineers jobs we have exported to Israel to help them build more bombs to break up Gaza!
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io On 17 Aug 2014 01:04, "S.M. Muraya via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Not sure why we need Israelis to build this database for Kenya. They could guide/train us but it is not for non Kenyans to lead its development and management.
http://www.nation.co.ke/business/Online-Database-Technology-Public-Servants-...
Kenyan State to partner with Israeli firm to create online database of Kenyans
Note comments made in 2009.....
*Israel Poised To Pass National I.D. Database Law*
By Nathan Jeffay
Published August 12, 2009, issue of August 21, 2009.
HAIFA, ISRAEL — Israel may become the only democratic country to take biometric information from all citizens and store it in a database.
The plan, approved by a Knesset committee and set for a final vote in the fall, is expected to pass easily, as the largest opposition party and the government support the bill. But that apparently won’t prevent outraged human rights organizations, academics and grass-roots activists from spending the rest of the summer protesting the plan.
Champions of the database say it is crucial for Israel’s security. “The danger to the state in the present situation, in which there is no database of biometric information, is critical,” according to Kadima lawmaker Meir Sheetrit, who drafted the bill.
But opponents say that it actually will jeopardize security. “If such a database gets in the hands of a foreign country or terrorist organization, they will be able to identify any Israeli anywhere by their fingerprints or their picture,” claimed computer security expert Eli Biham, dean of computer science at Israel’s leading high-tech research institution, the Haifa-based Technion – Israel Institute of Technology.
Read more: http://forward.com/articles/112033/israel-poised-to-pass-national-id-databas...
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Muraya, Anyone can share their face (pics) on Facebook but I don't think you would your Iris & fingerprint scans as well as your DNA. Those we can't just give away to someone who has been proven inept in keeping data safe. On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 10:18 AM, S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya@gmail.com> wrote:
Haha... Facebook already has much of our "Biometric" Data (which will always be hacked as all systems are) , so I am less concerned about our government building such a database.
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2014/07/08/fbi-may-seek-facebook-data-fo...
They key is tracing/dealing with whoever hacks or leaks our data.
It is crazy to trust foreigners with such work, with travel advisories scaring expert/expats away plus Africans not being too welcome outside Africa, with our Ebola and all :) On Aug 18, 2014 9:46 AM, "Ngigi Waithaka" <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
Muraya,
I am actually very very concerned to let our government store *ALL MY* biometrics in a digital form.
The problem with Biometrics is that if there is a breach of that database, and in our case here, there most likely will be given GoK's lackadaisical attitude towards digital security, you cannot tell the user to simply *change their passwords* as you are born with your Biometrics and you live with them for life.
If the Government needs to store Biometrics, we should lobby they only keep the left-hand thumbprint, so if that's stolen, and it will be stolen, I have 9 other fingers reserved for our other personal biometric uses.
Fast forward to modern world, Bioemtrics devices are as ubiquitous as Keyboards, infact employing a Biometric Systems nowdays even for HR purposes is almost a trivial thing to do.
Every operating platform today has a credible biometric engine, just waiting for developers to take use them, so why do we have to get a firm to implement this for us, while we can very easily do this locally?
The answer, yet again, lies in that Ksh 9B
Rgds
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 9:28 AM, S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya@gmail.com> wrote:
The reason we carry out customized developer training is to identify upcoming talent/team players.
How many local firms did they interview before deciding to entrust foreigners with such a system..
Through the treasury, the concerned Department/Service, could even borrow directly from counties.
Some counties may be willing to earn some interest/skills by loaning funds to such projects
Regards
Murigi / Stanley Muraya
*"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32*
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
This is interesting, why?
1. PPPs should be guided by an open and transparent process where GoK advertises for those with intent to partner to apply. This didn't happen.
2. If there is no competition, how do we ensure we are getting value for money?
3. Whatever happened to building some of these solutions locally. Yet another 1000 software engineers jobs we have exported to Israel to help them build more bombs to break up Gaza!
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io On 17 Aug 2014 01:04, "S.M. Muraya via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Not sure why we need Israelis to build this database for Kenya. They could guide/train us but it is not for non Kenyans to lead its development and management.
http://www.nation.co.ke/business/Online-Database-Technology-Public-Servants-...
Kenyan State to partner with Israeli firm to create online database of Kenyans
Note comments made in 2009.....
*Israel Poised To Pass National I.D. Database Law*
By Nathan Jeffay
Published August 12, 2009, issue of August 21, 2009.
HAIFA, ISRAEL — Israel may become the only democratic country to take biometric information from all citizens and store it in a database.
The plan, approved by a Knesset committee and set for a final vote in the fall, is expected to pass easily, as the largest opposition party and the government support the bill. But that apparently won’t prevent outraged human rights organizations, academics and grass-roots activists from spending the rest of the summer protesting the plan.
Champions of the database say it is crucial for Israel’s security. “The danger to the state in the present situation, in which there is no database of biometric information, is critical,” according to Kadima lawmaker Meir Sheetrit, who drafted the bill.
But opponents say that it actually will jeopardize security. “If such a database gets in the hands of a foreign country or terrorist organization, they will be able to identify any Israeli anywhere by their fingerprints or their picture,” claimed computer security expert Eli Biham, dean of computer science at Israel’s leading high-tech research institution, the Haifa-based Technion – Israel Institute of Technology.
Read more: http://forward.com/articles/112033/israel-poised-to-pass-national-id-databas...
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Dear colleagues, I think creating biometric databases of all citizens can reduce our civil liberties, but others may disagree. Thoughts? Rigia On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 2:54 AM, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
This is interesting, why?
1. PPPs should be guided by an open and transparent process where GoK advertises for those with intent to partner to apply. This didn't happen.
2. If there is no competition, how do we ensure we are getting value for money?
3. Whatever happened to building some of these solutions locally. Yet another 1000 software engineers jobs we have exported to Israel to help them build more bombs to break up Gaza!
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io On 17 Aug 2014 01:04, "S.M. Muraya via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Not sure why we need Israelis to build this database for Kenya. They could guide/train us but it is not for non Kenyans to lead its development and management.
http://www.nation.co.ke/business/Online-Database-Technology-Public-Servants-...
Kenyan State to partner with Israeli firm to create online database of Kenyans
Note comments made in 2009.....
*Israel Poised To Pass National I.D. Database Law*
By Nathan Jeffay
Published August 12, 2009, issue of August 21, 2009.
HAIFA, ISRAEL — Israel may become the only democratic country to take biometric information from all citizens and store it in a database.
The plan, approved by a Knesset committee and set for a final vote in the fall, is expected to pass easily, as the largest opposition party and the government support the bill. But that apparently won’t prevent outraged human rights organizations, academics and grass-roots activists from spending the rest of the summer protesting the plan.
Champions of the database say it is crucial for Israel’s security. “The danger to the state in the present situation, in which there is no database of biometric information, is critical,” according to Kadima lawmaker Meir Sheetrit, who drafted the bill.
But opponents say that it actually will jeopardize security. “If such a database gets in the hands of a foreign country or terrorist organization, they will be able to identify any Israeli anywhere by their fingerprints or their picture,” claimed computer security expert Eli Biham, dean of computer science at Israel’s leading high-tech research institution, the Haifa-based Technion – Israel Institute of Technology.
Read more: http://forward.com/articles/112033/israel-poised-to-pass-national-id-databas...
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Warigia, I see where you are going and I ,with very good reasons, share your concerns. However,it is a bit late in the day to go that way because a substantial number of governments even in democratic countries have already implemented biometric databases. What we lack in Kenya is the appropriate legal and institutional framework to deal with the matter.This include lack of any(let alone adequate) legislation on personal data protection.When prepared this would require to be bechmarked with the best international practices, including UNGA Guidelines for the Regulation of Computerised Personal Data Files,Resolution 45/95 of 14 December 1990,CoE Convention on Data Protection and EU Directive 95/46/EC on Data Protection. My 2 cents, John Kariuki. On Monday, 18 August 2014, 22:35, Warigia Bowman via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Dear colleagues, I think creating biometric databases of all citizens can reduce our civil liberties, but others may disagree. Thoughts? Rigia On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 2:54 AM, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: This is interesting, why?
1. PPPs should be guided by an open and transparent process where GoK advertises for those with intent to partner to apply. This didn't happen. 2. If there is no competition, how do we ensure we are getting value for money? 3. Whatever happened to building some of these solutions locally. Yet another 1000 software engineers jobs we have exported to Israel to help them build more bombs to break up Gaza! Waithaka Ngigi Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya www.A1.io On 17 Aug 2014 01:04, "S.M. Muraya via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Not sure why we need Israelis to build this database for Kenya. They could guide/train us but it is not for non Kenyans to lead its development and management.
http://www.nation.co.ke/business/Online-Database-Technology-Public-Servants-...
Kenyan State to partner with Israeli firm to create online database of Kenyans
Note comments made in 2009.....
Israel Poised To Pass National I.D. Database Law
By Nathan Jeffay
Published August 12, 2009, issue of August 21, 2009.
HAIFA, ISRAEL — Israel may become the only democratic country to take biometric information from all citizens and store it in a database.
The plan, approved by a Knesset committee and set for a final vote in the fall, is expected to pass easily, as the largest opposition party and the government support the bill. But that apparently won’t prevent outraged human rights organizations, academics and grass-roots activists from spending the rest of the summer protesting the plan.
Champions of the database say it is crucial for Israel’s security. “The danger to the state in the present situation, in which there is no database of biometric information, is critical,” according to Kadima lawmaker Meir Sheetrit, who drafted the bill.
But opponents say that it actually will jeopardize security. “If such a database gets in the hands of a foreign country or terrorist organization, they will be able to identify any Israeli anywhere by their fingerprints or their picture,” claimed computer security expert Eli Biham, dean of computer science at Israel’s leading high-tech research institution, the Haifa-based Technion – Israel Institute of Technology.
Read more: http://forward.com/articles/112033/israel-poised-to-pass-national-id-databas...
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Mpendwa Ndugu Kariuki It is never too late in the day to fight for our freedom. You are very correct that we need an appropriate legal and institutional framework to deal with the matter, as well as a vigorous public debate about the pros and cons of this policy. I think that my US passport is connected to a biometric database, but my US drivers' license is not. I remain skeptical. I think that biometric databases are a form of command and control of the population. Check out the book Seeing Like A State by Scott. Sincerely, Warigia On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 1:10 PM, John Kariuki < ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Warigia,
I see where you are going and I ,with very good reasons, share your concerns. However,it is a bit late in the day to go that way because a substantial number of governments even in democratic countries have already implemented biometric databases. What we lack in Kenya is the appropriate legal and institutional framework to deal with the matter.This include lack of any(let alone adequate) legislation on personal data protection.When prepared this would require to be bechmarked with the best international practices, including UNGA Guidelines for the Regulation of Computerised Personal Data Files,Resolution 45/95 of 14 December 1990,CoE Convention on Data Protection and EU Directive 95/46/EC on Data Protection.
My 2 cents,
John Kariuki.
On Monday, 18 August 2014, 22:35, Warigia Bowman via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear colleagues,
I think creating biometric databases of all citizens can reduce our civil liberties, but others may disagree.
Thoughts?
Rigia
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 2:54 AM, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
This is interesting, why? 1. PPPs should be guided by an open and transparent process where GoK advertises for those with intent to partner to apply. This didn't happen. 2. If there is no competition, how do we ensure we are getting value for money? 3. Whatever happened to building some of these solutions locally. Yet another 1000 software engineers jobs we have exported to Israel to help them build more bombs to break up Gaza! Waithaka Ngigi Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya www.A1.io <http://www.a1.io/> On 17 Aug 2014 01:04, "S.M. Muraya via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Not sure why we need Israelis to build this database for Kenya. They could guide/train us but it is not for non Kenyans to lead its development and management.
http://www.nation.co.ke/business/Online-Database-Technology-Public-Servants-...
Kenyan State to partner with Israeli firm to create online database of Kenyans
Note comments made in 2009.....
*Israel Poised To Pass National I.D. Database Law*
By Nathan Jeffay
Published August 12, 2009, issue of August 21, 2009.
HAIFA, ISRAEL — Israel may become the only democratic country to take biometric information from all citizens and store it in a database.
The plan, approved by a Knesset committee and set for a final vote in the fall, is expected to pass easily, as the largest opposition party and the government support the bill. But that apparently won’t prevent outraged human rights organizations, academics and grass-roots activists from spending the rest of the summer protesting the plan.
Champions of the database say it is crucial for Israel’s security. “The danger to the state in the present situation, in which there is no database of biometric information, is critical,” according to Kadima lawmaker Meir Sheetrit, who drafted the bill.
But opponents say that it actually will jeopardize security. “If such a database gets in the hands of a foreign country or terrorist organization, they will be able to identify any Israeli anywhere by their fingerprints or their picture,” claimed computer security expert Eli Biham, dean of computer science at Israel’s leading high-tech research institution, the Haifa-based Technion – Israel Institute of Technology.
Read more: http://forward.com/articles/112033/israel-poised-to-pass-national-id-databas...
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Interesting read here... http://techcrunch.com/2013/12/06/inside-indias-aadhar-the-worlds-biggest-bio... Regards Murigi / Stanley Muraya *"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32* On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Warigia Bowman via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Mpendwa Ndugu Kariuki
It is never too late in the day to fight for our freedom. You are very correct that we need an appropriate legal and institutional framework to deal with the matter, as well as a vigorous public debate about the pros and cons of this policy.
I think that my US passport is connected to a biometric database, but my US drivers' license is not.
I remain skeptical. I think that biometric databases are a form of command and control of the population. Check out the book Seeing Like A State by Scott.
Sincerely, Warigia
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 1:10 PM, John Kariuki < ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Warigia,
I see where you are going and I ,with very good reasons, share your concerns. However,it is a bit late in the day to go that way because a substantial number of governments even in democratic countries have already implemented biometric databases. What we lack in Kenya is the appropriate legal and institutional framework to deal with the matter.This include lack of any(let alone adequate) legislation on personal data protection.When prepared this would require to be bechmarked with the best international practices, including UNGA Guidelines for the Regulation of Computerised Personal Data Files,Resolution 45/95 of 14 December 1990,CoE Convention on Data Protection and EU Directive 95/46/EC on Data Protection.
My 2 cents,
John Kariuki.
On Monday, 18 August 2014, 22:35, Warigia Bowman via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear colleagues,
I think creating biometric databases of all citizens can reduce our civil liberties, but others may disagree.
Thoughts?
Rigia
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 2:54 AM, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
This is interesting, why? 1. PPPs should be guided by an open and transparent process where GoK advertises for those with intent to partner to apply. This didn't happen. 2. If there is no competition, how do we ensure we are getting value for money? 3. Whatever happened to building some of these solutions locally. Yet another 1000 software engineers jobs we have exported to Israel to help them build more bombs to break up Gaza! Waithaka Ngigi Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya www.A1.io <http://www.a1.io/> On 17 Aug 2014 01:04, "S.M. Muraya via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Not sure why we need Israelis to build this database for Kenya. They could guide/train us but it is not for non Kenyans to lead its development and management.
http://www.nation.co.ke/business/Online-Database-Technology-Public-Servants-...
Kenyan State to partner with Israeli firm to create online database of Kenyans
Note comments made in 2009.....
*Israel Poised To Pass National I.D. Database Law*
By Nathan Jeffay
Published August 12, 2009, issue of August 21, 2009.
HAIFA, ISRAEL — Israel may become the only democratic country to take biometric information from all citizens and store it in a database.
The plan, approved by a Knesset committee and set for a final vote in the fall, is expected to pass easily, as the largest opposition party and the government support the bill. But that apparently won’t prevent outraged human rights organizations, academics and grass-roots activists from spending the rest of the summer protesting the plan.
Champions of the database say it is crucial for Israel’s security. “The danger to the state in the present situation, in which there is no database of biometric information, is critical,” according to Kadima lawmaker Meir Sheetrit, who drafted the bill.
But opponents say that it actually will jeopardize security. “If such a database gets in the hands of a foreign country or terrorist organization, they will be able to identify any Israeli anywhere by their fingerprints or their picture,” claimed computer security expert Eli Biham, dean of computer science at Israel’s leading high-tech research institution, the Haifa-based Technion – Israel Institute of Technology.
Read more: http://forward.com/articles/112033/israel-poised-to-pass-national-id-databas...
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between google, facebook and safaricom, we already have over 20 million kenyans with photos, ID numbers, and regular movements digitized. The government had been hunting down algorithms to work across this platforms. Some govt minion let that slip when they launched Mswari months back. In other places, facial recognition based street camera's combined with social media info and mobile phone gps location are now standard. On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 6:02 AM, S.M. Muraya via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Not sure why we need Israelis to build this database for Kenya. They could guide/train us but it is not for non Kenyans to lead its development and management.
http://www.nation.co.ke/business/Online-Database-Technology-Public-Servants-...
Kenyan State to partner with Israeli firm to create online database of Kenyans
Note comments made in 2009.....
*Israel Poised To Pass National I.D. Database Law*
By Nathan Jeffay
Published August 12, 2009, issue of August 21, 2009.
HAIFA, ISRAEL — Israel may become the only democratic country to take biometric information from all citizens and store it in a database.
The plan, approved by a Knesset committee and set for a final vote in the fall, is expected to pass easily, as the largest opposition party and the government support the bill. But that apparently won’t prevent outraged human rights organizations, academics and grass-roots activists from spending the rest of the summer protesting the plan.
Champions of the database say it is crucial for Israel’s security. “The danger to the state in the present situation, in which there is no database of biometric information, is critical,” according to Kadima lawmaker Meir Sheetrit, who drafted the bill.
But opponents say that it actually will jeopardize security. “If such a database gets in the hands of a foreign country or terrorist organization, they will be able to identify any Israeli anywhere by their fingerprints or their picture,” claimed computer security expert Eli Biham, dean of computer science at Israel’s leading high-tech research institution, the Haifa-based Technion – Israel Institute of Technology.
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this is why most govedrnment ict projects are failing On Monday, August 18, 2014 11:30 AM, Peter Wakaba via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: between google, facebook and safaricom, we already have over 20 million kenyans with photos, ID numbers, and regular movements digitized. The government had been hunting down algorithms to work across this platforms. Some govt minion let that slip when they launched Mswari months back. In other places, facial recognition based street camera's combined with social media info and mobile phone gps location are now standard. On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 6:02 AM, S.M. Muraya via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Not sure why we need Israelis to build this database for Kenya. They could guide/train us but it is not for non Kenyans to lead its development and management.
http://www.nation.co.ke/business/Online-Database-Technology-Public-Servants-...
Kenyan State to partner with Israeli firm to create online database of Kenyans
Note comments made in 2009.....
Israel Poised To Pass National I.D. Database Law
By Nathan Jeffay
Published August 12, 2009, issue of August 21, 2009.
HAIFA, ISRAEL — Israel may become the only democratic country to take biometric information from all citizens and store it in a database.
The plan, approved by a Knesset committee and set for a final vote in the fall, is expected to pass easily, as the largest opposition party and the government support the bill. But that apparently won’t prevent outraged human rights organizations, academics and grass-roots activists from spending the rest of the summer protesting the plan.
Champions of the database say it is crucial for Israel’s security. “The danger to the state in the present situation, in which there is no database of biometric information, is critical,” according to Kadima lawmaker Meir Sheetrit, who drafted the bill.
But opponents say that it actually will jeopardize security. “If such a database gets in the hands of a foreign country or terrorist organization, they will be able to identify any Israeli anywhere by their fingerprints or their picture,” claimed computer security expert Eli Biham, dean of computer science at Israel’s leading high-tech research institution, the Haifa-based Technion – Israel Institute of Technology.
Read more: http://forward.com/articles/112033/israel-poised-to-pass-national-id-databas...
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-- Warm Regards, PETER WAKABA AFRICA BUSINESS EDITOR, CCTV AFRICA Every morning in Africa, a gazelle wakes up, It knows it must run faster than the fastest lion or it will be killed. Every morning a lion wakes up, it knows it must outrun the slowest gazelle or it will starve to death. It doesn't matter whether you are a gazelle or a lion. When the sun comes up, you better start running. - In "The World is Flat" by Thomas L. Friedman. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/awatila%40yahoo.co.uk The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
participants (8)
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John Kariuki -
Mark Mwangi -
Ngigi Waithaka -
Peter Wakaba -
Phares Kariuki -
S.M. Muraya -
Warigia Bowman -
Watila Alex