Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants
@Yawe, I was on travel (not to SA :-) but caught up with our two new Principals. Great speeches. But if there's someone already in the new Presidents kitchen cabinet plse pass the following news. Just drop the laptop business or at least modify it because of the following reasons. 1. Curriculum. Ok. So the kids have laptops next year. What to do with them? Play games, watch porn? In other words do we have an IT curriculum for these youngsters or we believe they will automatically become Bill Gates once we throw gadgets at them.? 2. IT Teachers. Assuming we cobble together some curriculum before next year. How soon can we get out primary teachers upto speed on the same? Do we have a ToT program in place. ToT= Training of Trainers for the non-academics. 3. Examinations. It is known that Kenyans learn ONLY when it is examinable. Indeed teachers make space in their timetables if they know the unit is examinable. Otherwise you can as well do your IT lessons at home as your hobby since the lesson will NOT be scheduled at the expense of say Mathematics which is examinable. So is the KNEC ready with this exam? 4. Security/Theft. If folks can still IEBC laptops from secure strongrooms, what about laptops hanging either in staffrooms or on standard 1 pupils? What about a poor parent who opts to trade in the laptop in favour of cash to use for other purposes? This is not far fetched since even the largely successful Wezesha Laptop initiative were University students got subsidized Laptops and quite a number sold them off at market price. 5. Maintenance\Disposal program. Usually laptops are rarely maintained. Just dump them after 3-4yrs. So we need to think efficient disposal mechanism for 1million+ gadgets across rural and urban Kenya. Worse still those Kids will now be in standard 4 and so our buget for laptops will double -both for Sdt1s and the Std4s. But I have a simple solution for our new digital President. Just traget Form1s and perharps forget Laptops and adopt Networked PCs. The ecosytem described above is more mature to take on this great idea. Our Primary schools will just drain this initiative with little returns to the taxpayer. walu. ------------------------------ On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 7:56 AM AST (Arabian) robert yawe wrote:
Hi,
I like the confirmation by the President - sworn and his deputy on the issue of laptops for class 1 students from next year, it is commendable and quite easily achievable but as ICT experts are laptops the ideal items or would low power touchscreen tablets be more practical and appropriate? However .com that the two principles are I suspect that they might not be up to speed on devices.
Here again for the umpteenth time the opportunity for us to become relevant presents itself, shall we take action or sit back to carry out a forensic analysis when only 80% of the students get the devices?
Regards
PS. A new dispensation, a new dedication and new vigor
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
Hi Walu, The same issues you are raising were raised a few years ago when the government allowed the use of calculators in class and even much longer people burnt the printing press because they said that with a large illiterate population who will read the books. It is criminal to try and decide which toys are relevant to the development of your children as there learning is meant to equip them to survive and flourish in the future that neither you nor I have any idea how it will look. I spent over 150,000/- on high end gaming workstations for my children instead of buying a 50" LED screen or an iPAD and iPhone for my self, in addition I pay Zuku 5,000/- every month for dedicated internet access to the house instead of paying the same to DSTV for Satellite TV and finally my kids are allowed over 40 years of computer time every week during the school term and even more when they are on holiday. To many people out there this is a waste of money and I will regret the same over time, but they are all in the top 10 percentile of their class and they spend more time on useful sites than on gaming. Therefore unlike many naysayers I have the moral right to say that the offer made by the President indicates that he can see beyond many of us and he he understands that he is more a custodian of the path to the future than the architect. What we in the industry need to spend our finger grease on is giving answers to the questions you have asked as if we also raise questions who do we expect to answer. Regards PS. Just before I forget, they also have kindles, the basic black and white one no Fires for now. Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke Sent: Wednesday, 10 April 2013, 8:40 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants @Yawe, I was on travel (not to SA :-) but caught up with our two new Principals. Great speeches. But if there's someone already in the new Presidents kitchen cabinet plse pass the following news. Just drop the laptop business or at least modify it because of the following reasons. 1. Curriculum. Ok. So the kids have laptops next year. What to do with them? Play games, watch porn? In other words do we have an IT curriculum for these youngsters or we believe they will automatically become Bill Gates once we throw gadgets at them.? 2. IT Teachers. Assuming we cobble together some curriculum before next year. How soon can we get out primary teachers upto speed on the same? Do we have a ToT program in place. ToT= Training of Trainers for the non-academics. 3. Examinations. It is known that Kenyans learn ONLY when it is examinable. Indeed teachers make space in their timetables if they know the unit is examinable. Otherwise you can as well do your IT lessons at home as your hobby since the lesson will NOT be scheduled at the expense of say Mathematics which is examinable. So is the KNEC ready with this exam? 4. Security/Theft. If folks can still IEBC laptops from secure strongrooms, what about laptops hanging either in staffrooms or on standard 1 pupils? What about a poor parent who opts to trade in the laptop in favour of cash to use for other purposes? This is not far fetched since even the largely successful Wezesha Laptop initiative were University students got subsidized Laptops and quite a number sold them off at market price. 5. Maintenance\Disposal program. Usually laptops are rarely maintained. Just dump them after 3-4yrs. So we need to think efficient disposal mechanism for 1million+ gadgets across rural and urban Kenya. Worse still those Kids will now be in standard 4 and so our buget for laptops will double -both for Sdt1s and the Std4s. But I have a simple solution for our new digital President. Just traget Form1s and perharps forget Laptops and adopt Networked PCs. The ecosytem described above is more mature to take on this great idea. Our Primary schools will just drain this initiative with little returns to the taxpayer. walu. ------------------------------ On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 7:56 AM AST (Arabian) robert yawe wrote:
Hi,
I like the confirmation by the President - sworn and his deputy on the issue of laptops for class 1 students from next year, it is commendable and quite easily achievable but as ICT experts are laptops the ideal items or would low power touchscreen tablets be more practical and appropriate? However .com that the two principles are I suspect that they might not be up to speed on devices.
Here again for the umpteenth time the opportunity for us to become relevant presents itself, shall we take action or sit back to carry out a forensic analysis when only 80% of the students get the devices?
Regards
PS. A new dispensation, a new dedication and new vigor
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
Robert I get you, but remember you are an elitist...think of a peasant famer in the rural! The age of laptops is gone. I wish we can assemble cheap tablets for these kids. On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 9:16 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi Walu,
The same issues you are raising were raised a few years ago when the government allowed the use of calculators in class and even much longer people burnt the printing press because they said that with a large illiterate population who will read the books.
It is criminal to try and decide which toys are relevant to the development of your children as there learning is meant to equip them to survive and flourish in the future that neither you nor I have any idea how it will look.
I spent over 150,000/- on high end gaming workstations for my children instead of buying a 50" LED screen or an iPAD and iPhone for my self, in addition I pay Zuku 5,000/- every month for dedicated internet access to the house instead of paying the same to DSTV for Satellite TV and finally my kids are allowed over 40 years of computer time every week during the school term and even more when they are on holiday.
To many people out there this is a waste of money and I will regret the same over time, but they are all in the top 10 percentile of their class and they spend more time on useful sites than on gaming.
Therefore unlike many naysayers I have the moral right to say that the offer made by the President indicates that he can see beyond many of us and he he understands that he is more a custodian of the path to the future than the architect.
What we in the industry need to spend our finger grease on is giving answers to the questions you have asked as if we also raise questions who do we expect to answer.
Regards
PS. Just before I forget, they also have kindles, the basic black and white one no Fires for now.
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ------------------------------ *From:* Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> *To:* robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke *Sent:* Wednesday, 10 April 2013, 8:40 *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants
@Yawe,
I was on travel (not to SA :-) but caught up with our two new Principals. Great speeches. But if there's someone already in the new Presidents kitchen cabinet plse pass the following news. Just drop the laptop business or at least modify it because of the following reasons.
1. Curriculum. Ok. So the kids have laptops next year. What to do with them? Play games, watch porn? In other words do we have an IT curriculum for these youngsters or we believe they will automatically become Bill Gates once we throw gadgets at them.?
2. IT Teachers. Assuming we cobble together some curriculum before next year. How soon can we get out primary teachers upto speed on the same? Do we have a ToT program in place. ToT= Training of Trainers for the non-academics.
3. Examinations. It is known that Kenyans learn ONLY when it is examinable. Indeed teachers make space in their timetables if they know the unit is examinable. Otherwise you can as well do your IT lessons at home as your hobby since the lesson will NOT be scheduled at the expense of say Mathematics which is examinable. So is the KNEC ready with this exam?
4. Security/Theft. If folks can still IEBC laptops from secure strongrooms, what about laptops hanging either in staffrooms or on standard 1 pupils? What about a poor parent who opts to trade in the laptop in favour of cash to use for other purposes? This is not far fetched since even the largely successful Wezesha Laptop initiative were University students got subsidized Laptops and quite a number sold them off at market price.
5. Maintenance\Disposal program. Usually laptops are rarely maintained. Just dump them after 3-4yrs. So we need to think efficient disposal mechanism for 1million+ gadgets across rural and urban Kenya. Worse still those Kids will now be in standard 4 and so our buget for laptops will double -both for Sdt1s and the Std4s.
But I have a simple solution for our new digital President. Just traget Form1s and perharps forget Laptops and adopt Networked PCs. The ecosytem described above is more mature to take on this great idea. Our Primary schools will just drain this initiative with little returns to the taxpayer.
walu.
------------------------------ On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 7:56 AM AST (Arabian) robert yawe wrote:
Hi,
I like the confirmation by the President - sworn and his deputy on the issue of laptops for class 1 students from next year, it is commendable and quite easily achievable but as ICT experts are laptops the ideal items or would low power touchscreen tablets be more practical and appropriate? However .com that the two principles are I suspect that they might not be up to speed on devices.
Here again for the umpteenth time the opportunity for us to become relevant presents itself, shall we take action or sit back to carry out a forensic analysis when only 80% of the students get the devices?
Regards
PS. A new dispensation, a new dedication and new vigor
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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Another reason why the laptop project is the future http://pandodaily.com/2013/04/05/ten-websites-that-teach-coding-and-a-bunch-... regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke Sent: Wednesday, 10 April 2013, 8:40 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants @Yawe, I was on travel (not to SA :-) but caught up with our two new Principals. Great speeches. But if there's someone already in the new Presidents kitchen cabinet plse pass the following news. Just drop the laptop business or at least modify it because of the following reasons. 1. Curriculum. Ok. So the kids have laptops next year. What to do with them? Play games, watch porn? In other words do we have an IT curriculum for these youngsters or we believe they will automatically become Bill Gates once we throw gadgets at them.? 2. IT Teachers. Assuming we cobble together some curriculum before next year. How soon can we get out primary teachers upto speed on the same? Do we have a ToT program in place. ToT= Training of Trainers for the non-academics. 3. Examinations. It is known that Kenyans learn ONLY when it is examinable. Indeed teachers make space in their timetables if they know the unit is examinable. Otherwise you can as well do your IT lessons at home as your hobby since the lesson will NOT be scheduled at the expense of say Mathematics which is examinable. So is the KNEC ready with this exam? 4. Security/Theft. If folks can still IEBC laptops from secure strongrooms, what about laptops hanging either in staffrooms or on standard 1 pupils? What about a poor parent who opts to trade in the laptop in favour of cash to use for other purposes? This is not far fetched since even the largely successful Wezesha Laptop initiative were University students got subsidized Laptops and quite a number sold them off at market price. 5. Maintenance\Disposal program. Usually laptops are rarely maintained. Just dump them after 3-4yrs. So we need to think efficient disposal mechanism for 1million+ gadgets across rural and urban Kenya. Worse still those Kids will now be in standard 4 and so our buget for laptops will double -both for Sdt1s and the Std4s. But I have a simple solution for our new digital President. Just traget Form1s and perharps forget Laptops and adopt Networked PCs. The ecosytem described above is more mature to take on this great idea. Our Primary schools will just drain this initiative with little returns to the taxpayer. walu. ------------------------------ On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 7:56 AM AST (Arabian) robert yawe wrote:
Hi,
I like the confirmation by the President - sworn and his deputy on the issue of laptops for class 1 students from next year, it is commendable and quite easily achievable but as ICT experts are laptops the ideal items or would low power touchscreen tablets be more practical and appropriate? However .com that the two principles are I suspect that they might not be up to speed on devices.
Here again for the umpteenth time the opportunity for us to become relevant presents itself, shall we take action or sit back to carry out a forensic analysis when only 80% of the students get the devices?
Regards
PS. A new dispensation, a new dedication and new vigor
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
olpc started this eons back, and FYI the XO-1 cost 100USD to make, with subsequent plans having been to make a flexible tablet that can withstand the abuse that children could subject it to. As for curriculum, would be an open field for local developers to embark on something significant for the good of the young generation. Have had several interesting discussions on what / how entry level programming should be taught. IMHO, getting the laptops in their hands is winning half the battle. more info: www.olpc.com http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/olpc-shows-off-absurdly-thin-xo-3-concept... Maybe this could be a good time for the honourable minister to combine the vision of Konza city to invite these fellas to invest in a production facility locally that would anchor the product solidly in the local domain. On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 9:55 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Another reason why the laptop project is the future
http://pandodaily.com/2013/04/05/ten-websites-that-teach-coding-and-a-bunch-...
regards
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ------------------------------ *From:* Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> *To:* robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke *Sent:* Wednesday, 10 April 2013, 8:40 *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants
@Yawe,
I was on travel (not to SA :-) but caught up with our two new Principals. Great speeches. But if there's someone already in the new Presidents kitchen cabinet plse pass the following news. Just drop the laptop business or at least modify it because of the following reasons.
1. Curriculum. Ok. So the kids have laptops next year. What to do with them? Play games, watch porn? In other words do we have an IT curriculum for these youngsters or we believe they will automatically become Bill Gates once we throw gadgets at them.?
2. IT Teachers. Assuming we cobble together some curriculum before next year. How soon can we get out primary teachers upto speed on the same? Do we have a ToT program in place. ToT= Training of Trainers for the non-academics.
3. Examinations. It is known that Kenyans learn ONLY when it is examinable. Indeed teachers make space in their timetables if they know the unit is examinable. Otherwise you can as well do your IT lessons at home as your hobby since the lesson will NOT be scheduled at the expense of say Mathematics which is examinable. So is the KNEC ready with this exam?
4. Security/Theft. If folks can still IEBC laptops from secure strongrooms, what about laptops hanging either in staffrooms or on standard 1 pupils? What about a poor parent who opts to trade in the laptop in favour of cash to use for other purposes? This is not far fetched since even the largely successful Wezesha Laptop initiative were University students got subsidized Laptops and quite a number sold them off at market price.
5. Maintenance\Disposal program. Usually laptops are rarely maintained. Just dump them after 3-4yrs. So we need to think efficient disposal mechanism for 1million+ gadgets across rural and urban Kenya. Worse still those Kids will now be in standard 4 and so our buget for laptops will double -both for Sdt1s and the Std4s.
But I have a simple solution for our new digital President. Just traget Form1s and perharps forget Laptops and adopt Networked PCs. The ecosytem described above is more mature to take on this great idea. Our Primary schools will just drain this initiative with little returns to the taxpayer.
walu.
------------------------------ On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 7:56 AM AST (Arabian) robert yawe wrote:
Hi,
I like the confirmation by the President - sworn and his deputy on the issue of laptops for class 1 students from next year, it is commendable and quite easily achievable but as ICT experts are laptops the ideal items or would low power touchscreen tablets be more practical and appropriate? However .com that the two principles are I suspect that they might not be up to speed on devices.
Here again for the umpteenth time the opportunity for us to become relevant presents itself, shall we take action or sit back to carry out a forensic analysis when only 80% of the students get the devices?
Regards
PS. A new dispensation, a new dedication and new vigor
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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50 + 1 @ walu Owino Jakakaeta Life is too SHORT to eat Green BANANAS! ________________________________ From: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> To: "mpodhiambo@yahoo.com" <mpodhiambo@yahoo.com> Cc: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 10:40 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants @Yawe, I was on travel (not to SA :-) but caught up with our two new Principals. Great speeches. But if there's someone already in the new Presidents kitchen cabinet plse pass the following news. Just drop the laptop business or at least modify it because of the following reasons. 1. Curriculum. Ok. So the kids have laptops next year. What to do with them? Play games, watch porn? In other words do we have an IT curriculum for these youngsters or we believe they will automatically become Bill Gates once we throw gadgets at them.? 2. IT Teachers. Assuming we cobble together some curriculum before next year. How soon can we get out primary teachers upto speed on the same? Do we have a ToT program in place. ToT= Training of Trainers for the non-academics. 3. Examinations. It is known that Kenyans learn ONLY when it is examinable. Indeed teachers make space in their timetables if they know the unit is examinable. Otherwise you can as well do your IT lessons at home as your hobby since the lesson will NOT be scheduled at the expense of say Mathematics which is examinable. So is the KNEC ready with this exam? 4. Security/Theft. If folks can still IEBC laptops from secure strongrooms, what about laptops hanging either in staffrooms or on standard 1 pupils? What about a poor parent who opts to trade in the laptop in favour of cash to use for other purposes? This is not far fetched since even the largely successful Wezesha Laptop initiative were University students got subsidized Laptops and quite a number sold them off at market price. 5. Maintenance\Disposal program. Usually laptops are rarely maintained. Just dump them after 3-4yrs. So we need to think efficient disposal mechanism for 1million+ gadgets across rural and urban Kenya. Worse still those Kids will now be in standard 4 and so our buget for laptops will double -both for Sdt1s and the Std4s. But I have a simple solution for our new digital President. Just traget Form1s and perharps forget Laptops and adopt Networked PCs. The ecosytem described above is more mature to take on this great idea. Our Primary schools will just drain this initiative with little returns to the taxpayer. walu. ------------------------------ On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 7:56 AM AST (Arabian) robert yawe wrote:
Hi,
I like the confirmation by the President - sworn and his deputy on the issue of laptops for class 1 students from next year, it is commendable and quite easily achievable but as ICT experts are laptops the ideal items or would low power touchscreen tablets be more practical and appropriate? However .com that the two principles are I suspect that they might not be up to speed on devices.
Here again for the umpteenth time the opportunity for us to become relevant presents itself, shall we take action or sit back to carry out a forensic analysis when only 80% of the students get the devices?
Regards
PS. A new dispensation, a new dedication and new vigor
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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Hi,
I like the confirmation by the President - sworn and his deputy on the issue of laptops for class 1 students from next year, it is commendable and quite easily achievable but as ICT experts are laptops the ideal items or would low power touchscreen tablets be more practical and appropriate? However .com that the two principles are I suspect that they might not be up to speed on devices.
Here again for the umpteenth time the opportunity for us to become relevant
Hey Walu et al, I do not expect the President to have answers to your questions below. You know the workings in government, what has been made is a high level policy pronouncement now it will be unto the technocrats like yourself to craft a working strategy and plan for this to work. I expect that a team within the Ministry (may be include KIE and the ICT Integration Unit) will be set up to work on the detail of how to deliver this policy. And on your point "1", shouldn't we be targeting IT for Eduction and not IT education? Why would yu need an IT curriculum for class one? Kindest Regards Harry Hare Director | African eDevelopment Resource Centre PO Box 49475 00100 | Nairobi, Kenya Tel +254 20 4041646 | Cel +254 725 650044 From: Owino Jakakaeta <mpodhiambo@yahoo.com> Reply-To: Owino Jakakaeta <mpodhiambo@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 00:24:38 -0700 (PDT) To: Cio_Magazine Hare <harry@africanedevelopment.org> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants 50 + 1 @ walu Owino Jakakaeta Life is too SHORT to eat Green BANANAS! From: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> To: "mpodhiambo@yahoo.com" <mpodhiambo@yahoo.com> Cc: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 10:40 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants @Yawe, I was on travel (not to SA :-) but caught up with our two new Principals. Great speeches. But if there's someone already in the new Presidents kitchen cabinet plse pass the following news. Just drop the laptop business or at least modify it because of the following reasons. 1. Curriculum. Ok. So the kids have laptops next year. What to do with them? Play games, watch porn? In other words do we have an IT curriculum for these youngsters or we believe they will automatically become Bill Gates once we throw gadgets at them.? 2. IT Teachers. Assuming we cobble together some curriculum before next year. How soon can we get out primary teachers upto speed on the same? Do we have a ToT program in place. ToT= Training of Trainers for the non-academics. 3. Examinations. It is known that Kenyans learn ONLY when it is examinable. Indeed teachers make space in their timetables if they know the unit is examinable. Otherwise you can as well do your IT lessons at home as your hobby since the lesson will NOT be scheduled at the expense of say Mathematics which is examinable. So is the KNEC ready with this exam? 4. Security/Theft. If folks can still IEBC laptops from secure strongrooms, what about laptops hanging either in staffrooms or on standard 1 pupils? What about a poor parent who opts to trade in the laptop in favour of cash to use for other purposes? This is not far fetched since even the largely successful Wezesha Laptop initiative were University students got subsidized Laptops and quite a number sold them off at market price. 5. Maintenance\Disposal program. Usually laptops are rarely maintained. Just dump them after 3-4yrs. So we need to think efficient disposal mechanism for 1million+ gadgets across rural and urban Kenya. Worse still those Kids will now be in standard 4 and so our buget for laptops will double -both for Sdt1s and the Std4s. But I have a simple solution for our new digital President. Just traget Form1s and perharps forget Laptops and adopt Networked PCs. The ecosytem described above is more mature to take on this great idea. Our Primary schools will just drain this initiative with little returns to the taxpayer. walu. ------------------------------ On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 7:56 AM AST (Arabian) robert yawe wrote: presents itself, shall we take action or sit back to carry out a forensic analysis when only 80% of the students get the devices?
Regards
PS. A new dispensation, a new dedication and new vigor
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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+1 Harry! On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Harry Hare <harry@africanedevelopment.org>wrote:
Hey Walu et al,
I do not expect the President to have answers to your questions below. You know the workings in government, what has been made is a high level policy pronouncement now it will be unto the technocrats like yourself to craft a working strategy and plan for this to work.
I expect that a team within the Ministry (may be include KIE and the ICT Integration Unit) will be set up to work on the detail of how to deliver this policy. And on your point "1", shouldn't we be targeting IT for Eduction and not IT education? Why would yu need an IT curriculum for class one?
Kindest Regards
Harry Hare
Director | African eDevelopment Resource Centre PO Box 49475 00100 | Nairobi, Kenya Tel +254 20 4041646 | Cel +254 725 650044
From: Owino Jakakaeta <mpodhiambo@yahoo.com> Reply-To: Owino Jakakaeta <mpodhiambo@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 00:24:38 -0700 (PDT) To: Cio_Magazine Hare <harry@africanedevelopment.org> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants
50 + 1 @ walu
Owino Jakakaeta Life is too SHORT to eat Green BANANAS!
------------------------------ *From:* Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> *To:* "mpodhiambo@yahoo.com" <mpodhiambo@yahoo.com> *Cc:* kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke *Sent:* Tuesday, April 9, 2013 10:40 PM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants
@Yawe,
I was on travel (not to SA :-) but caught up with our two new Principals. Great speeches. But if there's someone already in the new Presidents kitchen cabinet plse pass the following news. Just drop the laptop business or at least modify it because of the following reasons.
1. Curriculum. Ok. So the kids have laptops next year. What to do with them? Play games, watch porn? In other words do we have an IT curriculum for these youngsters or we believe they will automatically become Bill Gates once we throw gadgets at them.?
2. IT Teachers. Assuming we cobble together some curriculum before next year. How soon can we get out primary teachers upto speed on the same? Do we have a ToT program in place. ToT= Training of Trainers for the non-academics.
3. Examinations. It is known that Kenyans learn ONLY when it is examinable. Indeed teachers make space in their timetables if they know the unit is examinable. Otherwise you can as well do your IT lessons at home as your hobby since the lesson will NOT be scheduled at the expense of say Mathematics which is examinable. So is the KNEC ready with this exam?
4. Security/Theft. If folks can still IEBC laptops from secure strongrooms, what about laptops hanging either in staffrooms or on standard 1 pupils? What about a poor parent who opts to trade in the laptop in favour of cash to use for other purposes? This is not far fetched since even the largely successful Wezesha Laptop initiative were University students got subsidized Laptops and quite a number sold them off at market price.
5. Maintenance\Disposal program. Usually laptops are rarely maintained. Just dump them after 3-4yrs. So we need to think efficient disposal mechanism for 1million+ gadgets across rural and urban Kenya. Worse still those Kids will now be in standard 4 and so our buget for laptops will double -both for Sdt1s and the Std4s.
But I have a simple solution for our new digital President. Just traget Form1s and perharps forget Laptops and adopt Networked PCs. The ecosytem described above is more mature to take on this great idea. Our Primary schools will just drain this initiative with little returns to the taxpayer.
walu.
------------------------------ On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 7:56 AM AST (Arabian) robert yawe wrote:
Hi,
I like the confirmation by the President - sworn and his deputy on the issue of laptops for class 1 students from next year, it is commendable and quite easily achievable but as ICT experts are laptops the ideal items or would low power touchscreen tablets be more practical and appropriate? However .com that the two principles are I suspect that they might not be up to speed on devices.
Here again for the umpteenth time the opportunity for us to become relevant presents itself, shall we take action or sit back to carry out a forensic analysis when only 80% of the students get the devices?
Regards
PS. A new dispensation, a new dedication and new vigor
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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+1 Harry! As you can see on literacy (*age 15 and over can read and write*) here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_literacy_rate , Kenya is one of the leading countries in Africa but still a distant from getting it to the best level. There is no world map indicating IT literacy by country http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_literacy, we should support this move by the new government so that come 2030, we shall be leading on this space. We should begin now. On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Harry Hare <harry@africanedevelopment.org>wrote:
Hey Walu et al,
I do not expect the President to have answers to your questions below. You know the workings in government, what has been made is a high level policy pronouncement now it will be unto the technocrats like yourself to craft a working strategy and plan for this to work.
I expect that a team within the Ministry (may be include KIE and the ICT Integration Unit) will be set up to work on the detail of how to deliver this policy. And on your point "1", shouldn't we be targeting IT for Eduction and not IT education? Why would yu need an IT curriculum for class one?
Kindest Regards
Harry Hare
Director | African eDevelopment Resource Centre PO Box 49475 00100 | Nairobi, Kenya Tel +254 20 4041646 | Cel +254 725 650044
From: Owino Jakakaeta <mpodhiambo@yahoo.com> Reply-To: Owino Jakakaeta <mpodhiambo@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 00:24:38 -0700 (PDT) To: Cio_Magazine Hare <harry@africanedevelopment.org> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants
50 + 1 @ walu
Owino Jakakaeta Life is too SHORT to eat Green BANANAS!
------------------------------ *From:* Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> *To:* "mpodhiambo@yahoo.com" <mpodhiambo@yahoo.com> *Cc:* kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke *Sent:* Tuesday, April 9, 2013 10:40 PM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants
@Yawe,
I was on travel (not to SA :-) but caught up with our two new Principals. Great speeches. But if there's someone already in the new Presidents kitchen cabinet plse pass the following news. Just drop the laptop business or at least modify it because of the following reasons.
1. Curriculum. Ok. So the kids have laptops next year. What to do with them? Play games, watch porn? In other words do we have an IT curriculum for these youngsters or we believe they will automatically become Bill Gates once we throw gadgets at them.?
2. IT Teachers. Assuming we cobble together some curriculum before next year. How soon can we get out primary teachers upto speed on the same? Do we have a ToT program in place. ToT= Training of Trainers for the non-academics.
3. Examinations. It is known that Kenyans learn ONLY when it is examinable. Indeed teachers make space in their timetables if they know the unit is examinable. Otherwise you can as well do your IT lessons at home as your hobby since the lesson will NOT be scheduled at the expense of say Mathematics which is examinable. So is the KNEC ready with this exam?
4. Security/Theft. If folks can still IEBC laptops from secure strongrooms, what about laptops hanging either in staffrooms or on standard 1 pupils? What about a poor parent who opts to trade in the laptop in favour of cash to use for other purposes? This is not far fetched since even the largely successful Wezesha Laptop initiative were University students got subsidized Laptops and quite a number sold them off at market price.
5. Maintenance\Disposal program. Usually laptops are rarely maintained. Just dump them after 3-4yrs. So we need to think efficient disposal mechanism for 1million+ gadgets across rural and urban Kenya. Worse still those Kids will now be in standard 4 and so our buget for laptops will double -both for Sdt1s and the Std4s.
But I have a simple solution for our new digital President. Just traget Form1s and perharps forget Laptops and adopt Networked PCs. The ecosytem described above is more mature to take on this great idea. Our Primary schools will just drain this initiative with little returns to the taxpayer.
walu.
------------------------------ On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 7:56 AM AST (Arabian) robert yawe wrote:
Hi,
I like the confirmation by the President - sworn and his deputy on the issue of laptops for class 1 students from next year, it is commendable and quite easily achievable but as ICT experts are laptops the ideal items or would low power touchscreen tablets be more practical and appropriate? However .com that the two principles are I suspect that they might not be up to speed on devices.
Here again for the umpteenth time the opportunity for us to become relevant presents itself, shall we take action or sit back to carry out a forensic analysis when only 80% of the students get the devices?
Regards
PS. A new dispensation, a new dedication and new vigor
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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A good place to start would be to get the laptops installed with Qimo for Kids. Qimo is a desktop operating system designed for kids. Based on the open source Ubuntu Linux <http://www.ubuntu.com/> desktop, Qimo comes pre-installed with educational games for children aged 3 and up. Qimo’s interface has been designed to be intuitive and easy to use, providing large icons for all installed games, so that even the youngest users have no trouble selecting the activity they want. My kids use it and the one in class 1 has really improved his grades because of its educational games that improve memory, language and maths skills, not mention that his keyboarding and mouse skills are very good. For those who think class 1 is too early, he started using this about 2 years ago. and i wish I had discovered it earlier. Also, I hope and pray that my tax money will not be used to pay for any software that we do not need at all. On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni@gmail.com> wrote:
+1 Harry!
As you can see on literacy (*age 15 and over can read and write*) here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_literacy_rate , Kenya is one of the leading countries in Africa but still a distant from getting it to the best level.
There is no world map indicating IT literacy by country http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_literacy, we should support this move by the new government so that come 2030, we shall be leading on this space.
We should begin now.
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Harry Hare < harry@africanedevelopment.org> wrote:
Hey Walu et al,
I do not expect the President to have answers to your questions below. You know the workings in government, what has been made is a high level policy pronouncement now it will be unto the technocrats like yourself to craft a working strategy and plan for this to work.
I expect that a team within the Ministry (may be include KIE and the ICT Integration Unit) will be set up to work on the detail of how to deliver this policy. And on your point "1", shouldn't we be targeting IT for Eduction and not IT education? Why would yu need an IT curriculum for class one?
Kindest Regards
Harry Hare
Director | African eDevelopment Resource Centre PO Box 49475 00100 | Nairobi, Kenya Tel +254 20 4041646 | Cel +254 725 650044
From: Owino Jakakaeta <mpodhiambo@yahoo.com> Reply-To: Owino Jakakaeta <mpodhiambo@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 00:24:38 -0700 (PDT) To: Cio_Magazine Hare <harry@africanedevelopment.org> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants
50 + 1 @ walu
Owino Jakakaeta Life is too SHORT to eat Green BANANAS!
------------------------------ *From:* Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> *To:* "mpodhiambo@yahoo.com" <mpodhiambo@yahoo.com> *Cc:* kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke *Sent:* Tuesday, April 9, 2013 10:40 PM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants
@Yawe,
I was on travel (not to SA :-) but caught up with our two new Principals. Great speeches. But if there's someone already in the new Presidents kitchen cabinet plse pass the following news. Just drop the laptop business or at least modify it because of the following reasons.
1. Curriculum. Ok. So the kids have laptops next year. What to do with them? Play games, watch porn? In other words do we have an IT curriculum for these youngsters or we believe they will automatically become Bill Gates once we throw gadgets at them.?
2. IT Teachers. Assuming we cobble together some curriculum before next year. How soon can we get out primary teachers upto speed on the same? Do we have a ToT program in place. ToT= Training of Trainers for the non-academics.
3. Examinations. It is known that Kenyans learn ONLY when it is examinable. Indeed teachers make space in their timetables if they know the unit is examinable. Otherwise you can as well do your IT lessons at home as your hobby since the lesson will NOT be scheduled at the expense of say Mathematics which is examinable. So is the KNEC ready with this exam?
4. Security/Theft. If folks can still IEBC laptops from secure strongrooms, what about laptops hanging either in staffrooms or on standard 1 pupils? What about a poor parent who opts to trade in the laptop in favour of cash to use for other purposes? This is not far fetched since even the largely successful Wezesha Laptop initiative were University students got subsidized Laptops and quite a number sold them off at market price.
5. Maintenance\Disposal program. Usually laptops are rarely maintained. Just dump them after 3-4yrs. So we need to think efficient disposal mechanism for 1million+ gadgets across rural and urban Kenya. Worse still those Kids will now be in standard 4 and so our buget for laptops will double -both for Sdt1s and the Std4s.
But I have a simple solution for our new digital President. Just traget Form1s and perharps forget Laptops and adopt Networked PCs. The ecosytem described above is more mature to take on this great idea. Our Primary schools will just drain this initiative with little returns to the taxpayer.
walu.
------------------------------ On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 7:56 AM AST (Arabian) robert yawe wrote:
Hi,
I like the confirmation by the President - sworn and his deputy on the issue of laptops for class 1 students from next year, it is commendable and quite easily achievable but as ICT experts are laptops the ideal items or would low power touchscreen tablets be more practical and appropriate? However .com that the two principles are I suspect that they might not be up to speed on devices.
Here again for the umpteenth time the opportunity for us to become relevant presents itself, shall we take action or sit back to carry out a forensic analysis when only 80% of the students get the devices?
Regards
PS. A new dispensation, a new dedication and new vigor
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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+1 Evans! It appears there many tested solutions, i like Qimo for Kids On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Evans Ikua <ikua.evans@gmail.com> wrote:
A good place to start would be to get the laptops installed with Qimo for Kids.
Qimo is a desktop operating system designed for kids. Based on the open source Ubuntu Linux <http://www.ubuntu.com/> desktop, Qimo comes pre-installed with educational games for children aged 3 and up. Qimo’s interface has been designed to be intuitive and easy to use, providing large icons for all installed games, so that even the youngest users have no trouble selecting the activity they want. My kids use it and the one in class 1 has really improved his grades because of its educational games that improve memory, language and maths skills, not mention that his keyboarding and mouse skills are very good. For those who think class 1 is too early, he started using this about 2 years ago. and i wish I had discovered it earlier.
Also, I hope and pray that my tax money will not be used to pay for any software that we do not need at all.
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni@gmail.com>wrote:
+1 Harry!
As you can see on literacy (*age 15 and over can read and write*) here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_literacy_rate , Kenya is one of the leading countries in Africa but still a distant from getting it to the best level.
There is no world map indicating IT literacy by country http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_literacy, we should support this move by the new government so that come 2030, we shall be leading on this space.
We should begin now.
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Harry Hare < harry@africanedevelopment.org> wrote:
Hey Walu et al,
I do not expect the President to have answers to your questions below. You know the workings in government, what has been made is a high level policy pronouncement now it will be unto the technocrats like yourself to craft a working strategy and plan for this to work.
I expect that a team within the Ministry (may be include KIE and the ICT Integration Unit) will be set up to work on the detail of how to deliver this policy. And on your point "1", shouldn't we be targeting IT for Eduction and not IT education? Why would yu need an IT curriculum for class one?
Kindest Regards
Harry Hare
Director | African eDevelopment Resource Centre PO Box 49475 00100 | Nairobi, Kenya Tel +254 20 4041646 | Cel +254 725 650044
From: Owino Jakakaeta <mpodhiambo@yahoo.com> Reply-To: Owino Jakakaeta <mpodhiambo@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 00:24:38 -0700 (PDT) To: Cio_Magazine Hare <harry@africanedevelopment.org> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants
50 + 1 @ walu
Owino Jakakaeta Life is too SHORT to eat Green BANANAS!
------------------------------ *From:* Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> *To:* "mpodhiambo@yahoo.com" <mpodhiambo@yahoo.com> *Cc:* kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke *Sent:* Tuesday, April 9, 2013 10:40 PM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants
@Yawe,
I was on travel (not to SA :-) but caught up with our two new Principals. Great speeches. But if there's someone already in the new Presidents kitchen cabinet plse pass the following news. Just drop the laptop business or at least modify it because of the following reasons.
1. Curriculum. Ok. So the kids have laptops next year. What to do with them? Play games, watch porn? In other words do we have an IT curriculum for these youngsters or we believe they will automatically become Bill Gates once we throw gadgets at them.?
2. IT Teachers. Assuming we cobble together some curriculum before next year. How soon can we get out primary teachers upto speed on the same? Do we have a ToT program in place. ToT= Training of Trainers for the non-academics.
3. Examinations. It is known that Kenyans learn ONLY when it is examinable. Indeed teachers make space in their timetables if they know the unit is examinable. Otherwise you can as well do your IT lessons at home as your hobby since the lesson will NOT be scheduled at the expense of say Mathematics which is examinable. So is the KNEC ready with this exam?
4. Security/Theft. If folks can still IEBC laptops from secure strongrooms, what about laptops hanging either in staffrooms or on standard 1 pupils? What about a poor parent who opts to trade in the laptop in favour of cash to use for other purposes? This is not far fetched since even the largely successful Wezesha Laptop initiative were University students got subsidized Laptops and quite a number sold them off at market price.
5. Maintenance\Disposal program. Usually laptops are rarely maintained. Just dump them after 3-4yrs. So we need to think efficient disposal mechanism for 1million+ gadgets across rural and urban Kenya. Worse still those Kids will now be in standard 4 and so our buget for laptops will double -both for Sdt1s and the Std4s.
But I have a simple solution for our new digital President. Just traget Form1s and perharps forget Laptops and adopt Networked PCs. The ecosytem described above is more mature to take on this great idea. Our Primary schools will just drain this initiative with little returns to the taxpayer.
walu.
------------------------------ On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 7:56 AM AST (Arabian) robert yawe wrote:
Hi,
I like the confirmation by the President - sworn and his deputy on the issue of laptops for class 1 students from next year, it is commendable and quite easily achievable but as ICT experts are laptops the ideal items or would low power touchscreen tablets be more practical and appropriate? However .com that the two principles are I suspect that they might not be up to speed on devices.
Here again for the umpteenth time the opportunity for us to become relevant presents itself, shall we take action or sit back to carry out a forensic analysis when only 80% of the students get the devices?
Regards
PS. A new dispensation, a new dedication and new vigor
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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Sounds good. Actually it is not that std one is too early, I am more concerned about the urgent industry shortages and there is need to speed up capacity building. Regards, Gilda Odera On Apr 10, 2013, at 2:36 PM, Evans Ikua <ikua.evans@gmail.com> wrote:
A good place to start would be to get the laptops installed with Qimo for Kids. Qimo is a desktop operating system designed for kids. Based on the open source Ubuntu Linux desktop, Qimo comes pre-installed with educational games for children aged 3 and up. Qimo’s interface has been designed to be intuitive and easy to use, providing large icons for all installed games, so that even the youngest users have no trouble selecting the activity they want.
My kids use it and the one in class 1 has really improved his grades because of its educational games that improve memory, language and maths skills, not mention that his keyboarding and mouse skills are very good. For those who think class 1 is too early, he started using this about 2 years ago. and i wish I had discovered it earlier.
Also, I hope and pray that my tax money will not be used to pay for any software that we do not need at all.
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni@gmail.com> wrote: +1 Harry!
As you can see on literacy (age 15 and over can read and write) here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_literacy_rate , Kenya is one of the leading countries in Africa but still a distant from getting it to the best level.
There is no world map indicating IT literacy by country http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_literacy, we should support this move by the new government so that come 2030, we shall be leading on this space.
We should begin now.
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Harry Hare <harry@africanedevelopment.org> wrote: Hey Walu et al,
I do not expect the President to have answers to your questions below. You know the workings in government, what has been made is a high level policy pronouncement now it will be unto the technocrats like yourself to craft a working strategy and plan for this to work.
I expect that a team within the Ministry (may be include KIE and the ICT Integration Unit) will be set up to work on the detail of how to deliver this policy. And on your point "1", shouldn't we be targeting IT for Eduction and not IT education? Why would yu need an IT curriculum for class one?
Kindest Regards
Harry Hare
Director | African eDevelopment Resource Centre PO Box 49475 00100 | Nairobi, Kenya Tel +254 20 4041646 | Cel +254 725 650044
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From: Owino Jakakaeta <mpodhiambo@yahoo.com> Reply-To: Owino Jakakaeta <mpodhiambo@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 00:24:38 -0700 (PDT) To: Cio_Magazine Hare <harry@africanedevelopment.org> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants
50 + 1 @ walu
Owino Jakakaeta Life is too SHORT to eat Green BANANAS!
From: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> To: "mpodhiambo@yahoo.com" <mpodhiambo@yahoo.com> Cc: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 10:40 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants
@Yawe,
I was on travel (not to SA :-) but caught up with our two new Principals. Great speeches. But if there's someone already in the new Presidents kitchen cabinet plse pass the following news. Just drop the laptop business or at least modify it because of the following reasons.
1. Curriculum. Ok. So the kids have laptops next year. What to do with them? Play games, watch porn? In other words do we have an IT curriculum for these youngsters or we believe they will automatically become Bill Gates once we throw gadgets at them.?
2. IT Teachers. Assuming we cobble together some curriculum before next year. How soon can we get out primary teachers upto speed on the same? Do we have a ToT program in place. ToT= Training of Trainers for the non-academics.
3. Examinations. It is known that Kenyans learn ONLY when it is examinable. Indeed teachers make space in their timetables if they know the unit is examinable. Otherwise you can as well do your IT lessons at home as your hobby since the lesson will NOT be scheduled at the expense of say Mathematics which is examinable. So is the KNEC ready with this exam?
4. Security/Theft. If folks can still IEBC laptops from secure strongrooms, what about laptops hanging either in staffrooms or on standard 1 pupils? What about a poor parent who opts to trade in the laptop in favour of cash to use for other purposes? This is not far fetched since even the largely successful Wezesha Laptop initiative were University students got subsidized Laptops and quite a number sold them off at market price.
5. Maintenance\Disposal program. Usually laptops are rarely maintained. Just dump them after 3-4yrs. So we need to think efficient disposal mechanism for 1million+ gadgets across rural and urban Kenya. Worse still those Kids will now be in standard 4 and so our buget for laptops will double -both for Sdt1s and the Std4s.
But I have a simple solution for our new digital President. Just traget Form1s and perharps forget Laptops and adopt Networked PCs. The ecosytem described above is more mature to take on this great idea. Our Primary schools will just drain this initiative with little returns to the taxpayer.
walu.
------------------------------ On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 7:56 AM AST (Arabian) robert yawe wrote:
Hi,
I like the confirmation by the President - sworn and his deputy on the issue of laptops for class 1 students from next year, it is commendable and quite easily achievable but as ICT experts are laptops the ideal items or would low power touchscreen tablets be more practical and appropriate? However .com that the two principles are I suspect that they might not be up to speed on devices.
Here again for the umpteenth time the opportunity for us to become relevant presents itself, shall we take action or sit back to carry out a forensic analysis when only 80% of the students get the devices?
Regards
PS. A new dispensation, a new dedication and new vigor
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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Walu, I would add a critical component - multi-media curriculum content - the "MEAT" of the computer campaign. 5 years+ experience in Uganda showed us that this improves educational performance big time - over 30% It will require careful and strategic planning......you can't go against your promise with the innocent minds (start with form 1?)...no way!... the pains of campaign promises! Edith -----Original Message----- From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Walubengo J Sent: April 10, 2013 8:41 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke Subject: Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants @Yawe, I was on travel (not to SA :-) but caught up with our two new Principals. Great speeches. But if there's someone already in the new Presidents kitchen cabinet plse pass the following news. Just drop the laptop business or at least modify it because of the following reasons. 1. Curriculum. Ok. So the kids have laptops next year. What to do with them? Play games, watch porn? In other words do we have an IT curriculum for these youngsters or we believe they will automatically become Bill Gates once we throw gadgets at them.? 2. IT Teachers. Assuming we cobble together some curriculum before next year. How soon can we get out primary teachers upto speed on the same? Do we have a ToT program in place. ToT= Training of Trainers for the non-academics. 3. Examinations. It is known that Kenyans learn ONLY when it is examinable. Indeed teachers make space in their timetables if they know the unit is examinable. Otherwise you can as well do your IT lessons at home as your hobby since the lesson will NOT be scheduled at the expense of say Mathematics which is examinable. So is the KNEC ready with this exam? 4. Security/Theft. If folks can still IEBC laptops from secure strongrooms, what about laptops hanging either in staffrooms or on standard 1 pupils? What about a poor parent who opts to trade in the laptop in favour of cash to use for other purposes? This is not far fetched since even the largely successful Wezesha Laptop initiative were University students got subsidized Laptops and quite a number sold them off at market price. 5. Maintenance\Disposal program. Usually laptops are rarely maintained. Just dump them after 3-4yrs. So we need to think efficient disposal mechanism for 1million+ gadgets across rural and urban Kenya. Worse still those Kids will now be in standard 4 and so our buget for laptops will double -both for Sdt1s and the Std4s. But I have a simple solution for our new digital President. Just traget Form1s and perharps forget Laptops and adopt Networked PCs. The ecosytem described above is more mature to take on this great idea. Our Primary schools will just drain this initiative with little returns to the taxpayer. walu. ------------------------------ On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 7:56 AM AST (Arabian) robert yawe wrote:
Hi,
I like the confirmation by the President - sworn and his deputy on the issue of laptops for class 1 students from next year, it is commendable and quite easily achievable but as ICT experts are laptops the ideal items or would low power touchscreen tablets be more practical and appropriate? However .com that the two principles are I suspect that they might not be up to speed on devices.
Here again for the umpteenth time the opportunity for us to become relevant presents itself, shall we take action or sit back to carry out a forensic analysis when only 80% of the students get the devices?
Regards
PS. A new dispensation, a new dedication and new vigor
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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participants (11)
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Areba Collins [ ＠BrainiacKE ® ] -
Brian Munyao Longwe -
Dorcas Muthoni -
Edith Adera -
Evans Ikua -
Gilda Odera -
Harry Hare -
Owino Jakakaeta -
Paul Roy -
robert yawe -
Walubengo J