Re: [Kictanet] IS ICANN IMPORTANT?
Thanks Becky for this valuable and insightful piece. I would ask what can KICTANEt and or similar networks do about this. This is for me ois the bigger question. Cheers, FE Florence Etta P.O. Box 14285,00800 Westlands-Nairobi, Kenya Tel: Mobile + 254-733-621851 Terrestrial: + 254-20-7121506 Fax: + 254-20-7125732 Alternative Email:florence.etta@gmail.com ----- Original Message ---- From: Rebecca Wanjiku <rebeccawanjiku@yahoo.com> To: feanywhere@yahoo.co.uk Sent: Tuesday, 5 December, 2006 9:36:41 PM Subject: [Kictanet] IS ICANN IMPORTANT? PLAYING THE CATCH UP GAME- AFRICAN STYLE By Rebecca Wanjiku Paul Odhiambo is an ICT officer at the Ministry of Education in Kenya . He is used to the technical jargon and all issues relating to the information society. But attending the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) meeting is not that easy for Odhiambo. In some of the sessions, he finds himself in unfarmiliar territory. Why ? afterall he is a techie ! Because at the meetings, participants discuss about ICT laws and how they can be made responsive to people´s demands and privacies. For instance, during discussions on WHOIS, participants discuss issues on how much information should be available to the public and whether such information should be shared accross the sectors. Then there are other issues on the menu like security concerns and the usual business aspect of e-commerce. Legal issues are also discussed regarding applicable laws in case of cross country trade. For example, if importing a car from Dubai , if it’s damaged at sea and you bought it online, which courts can you seek redress? Kenyan court or Dubai . Odhiambo may find himself in unfamiliar territory because Kenya has no ICT law, doesn’t seem to care much about e-commerce whether in country or between Kenya and other countries. Odhiambo´s story is probably the story of many African participants at ICANN meetings. Latin America, North America, Europe and Asia seem to be operating on a different level compared to Africa . While the rest are discussing progressive issues, African delegates can only watch and say, we have our issues- access, and policy formulation. But for how long will Africa cling on to the problems as an excuse? Take for example the issue of access, those who were in the ICT industry will maybe confirm that some African heads have sang this song of the digital divide, lack of access and lack of money. But the leaders have gyrated and swung their hips at the prospect of development that ICT holds. Whilst the question of infrastructure and finance maybe understood, what about policy formulation, can that be understood too? Many of us stay home and wonder why ICANN meetings are important. Some may view it as a travel club or a playground for techies. While you wonder what label to give them, these guys are making policies that could affect you. What are you doing about it? Ends Rebecca Wanjiku, journalist, p.o box 33515, Nairobi.00600 Kenya. Tel. 254 720 318 925 blog:http://beckyit.blogspot.com/ Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business._______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@kictanet.or.ke http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Please unsubscribe or change your options at http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/feanywhere%40yahoo.co.uk Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Rebecca, Your comment ''...Kenya has no ICT law, doesnt seem to care much about e-commerce whether in country or between Kenya and other countries''...may be abit on the stronger side. I believe the relevant Kenyan agencies both in Govt, Private Sector and Civil society do care and have made and continue to make effort towards a legalised eCommerce environment. The current Kenyan ICT policy does take cognisance of the significance that eCommerce has and the draft ICT Bill (2006) does make attempts to legalise this e-environment. What could be lacking is a mechanism for fast-tracking the issues i.e. escalating the time frame between Policy, Bill and Law. Indeed, the last bit - enacting law is the trickiest since it lies at the mercy of Parliamenterians (MPs)... Nevertheless, there could be interventions tailored to gain Parliamentary 'buy-in'. After all, they have been known to pass some Bills in record-time, why not the e-Bills? walu. --- Florence Etta <feanywhere@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Thanks Becky for this valuable and insightful piece. I would ask what can KICTANEt and or similar networks do about this. This is for me ois the bigger question.
Cheers, FE
Florence Etta P.O. Box 14285,00800 Westlands-Nairobi, Kenya Tel: Mobile + 254-733-621851 Terrestrial: + 254-20-7121506 Fax: + 254-20-7125732 Alternative Email:florence.etta@gmail.com
----- Original Message ---- From: Rebecca Wanjiku <rebeccawanjiku@yahoo.com> To: feanywhere@yahoo.co.uk Sent: Tuesday, 5 December, 2006 9:36:41 PM Subject: [Kictanet] IS ICANN IMPORTANT?
PLAYING THE CATCH UP GAME- AFRICAN STYLE By Rebecca Wanjiku Paul Odhiambo is an ICT officer at the Ministry of Education in Kenya . He is used to the technical jargon and all issues relating to the information society.
But attending the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) meeting is not that easy for Odhiambo. In some of the sessions, he finds himself in unfarmiliar territory. Why ? afterall he is a techie !
Because at the meetings, participants discuss about ICT laws and how they can be made responsive to people´s demands and privacies. For instance, during discussions on WHOIS, participants discuss issues on how much information should be available to the public and whether such information should be shared accross the sectors.
Then there are other issues on the menu like security concerns and the usual business aspect of e-commerce. Legal issues are also discussed regarding applicable laws in case of cross country trade. For example, if importing a car from Dubai , if its damaged at sea and you bought it online, which courts can you seek redress? Kenyan court or Dubai .
Odhiambo may find himself in unfamiliar territory because Kenya has no ICT law, doesnt seem to care much about e-commerce whether in country or between Kenya and other countries.
Odhiambo´s story is probably the story of many African participants at ICANN meetings. Latin America, North America, Europe and Asia seem to be operating on a different level compared to Africa .
While the rest are discussing progressive issues, African delegates can only watch and say, we have our issues- access, and policy formulation.
But for how long will Africa cling on to the problems as an excuse?
Take for example the issue of access, those who were in the ICT industry will maybe confirm that some African heads have sang this song of the digital divide, lack of access and lack of money.
But the leaders have gyrated and swung their hips at the prospect of development that ICT holds. Whilst the question of infrastructure and finance maybe understood, what about policy formulation, can that be understood too?
Many of us stay home and wonder why ICANN meetings are important. Some may view it as a travel club or a playground for techies. While you wonder what label to give them, these guys are making policies that could affect you.
What are you doing about it?
Ends
Rebecca Wanjiku, journalist, p.o box 33515, Nairobi.00600 Kenya.
Tel. 254 720 318 925
blog:http://beckyit.blogspot.com/
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Walu, strong as it maybe, it has taken ten years, i may have used strong words but in my opinion, the government hasnt shown much commitment apart from singing how ICTs can improve our lives and you are right, some bills have been passed in record time, yet one maybe tempted to think the government is very committed, but to what extent, thats just the way i see it!! Rebecca John Walubengo <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote: Rebecca, Your comment ''...Kenya has no ICT law, doesnt seem to care much about e-commerce whether in country or between Kenya and other countries''...may be abit on the stronger side. I believe the relevant Kenyan agencies both in Govt, Private Sector and Civil society do care and have made and continue to make effort towards a legalised eCommerce environment. The current Kenyan ICT policy does take cognisance of the significance that eCommerce has and the draft ICT Bill (2006) does make attempts to legalise this e-environment. What could be lacking is a mechanism for fast-tracking the issues i.e. escalating the time frame between Policy, Bill and Law. Indeed, the last bit - enacting law is the trickiest since it lies at the mercy of Parliamenterians (MPs)... Nevertheless, there could be interventions tailored to gain Parliamentary 'buy-in'. After all, they have been known to pass some Bills in record-time, why not the e-Bills? walu. --- Florence Etta wrote:
Thanks Becky for this valuable and insightful piece. I would ask what can KICTANEt and or similar networks do about this. This is for me ois the bigger question.
Cheers, FE
Florence Etta P.O. Box 14285,00800 Westlands-Nairobi, Kenya Tel: Mobile + 254-733-621851 Terrestrial: + 254-20-7121506 Fax: + 254-20-7125732 Alternative Email:florence.etta@gmail.com
----- Original Message ---- From: Rebecca Wanjiku To: feanywhere@yahoo.co.uk Sent: Tuesday, 5 December, 2006 9:36:41 PM Subject: [Kictanet] IS ICANN IMPORTANT?
PLAYING THE CATCH UP GAME- AFRICAN STYLE By Rebecca Wanjiku Paul Odhiambo is an ICT officer at the Ministry of Education in Kenya . He is used to the technical jargon and all issues relating to the information society.
But attending the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) meeting is not that easy for Odhiambo. In some of the sessions, he finds himself in unfarmiliar territory. Why ? afterall he is a techie !
Because at the meetings, participants discuss about ICT laws and how they can be made responsive to people´s demands and privacies. For instance, during discussions on WHOIS, participants discuss issues on how much information should be available to the public and whether such information should be shared accross the sectors.
Then there are other issues on the menu like security concerns and the usual business aspect of e-commerce. Legal issues are also discussed regarding applicable laws in case of cross country trade. For example, if importing a car from Dubai , if its damaged at sea and you bought it online, which courts can you seek redress? Kenyan court or Dubai .
Odhiambo may find himself in unfamiliar territory because Kenya has no ICT law, doesnt seem to care much about e-commerce whether in country or between Kenya and other countries.
Odhiambo´s story is probably the story of many African participants at ICANN meetings. Latin America, North America, Europe and Asia seem to be operating on a different level compared to Africa .
While the rest are discussing progressive issues, African delegates can only watch and say, we have our issues- access, and policy formulation.
But for how long will Africa cling on to the problems as an excuse?
Take for example the issue of access, those who were in the ICT industry will maybe confirm that some African heads have sang this song of the digital divide, lack of access and lack of money.
But the leaders have gyrated and swung their hips at the prospect of development that ICT holds. Whilst the question of infrastructure and finance maybe understood, what about policy formulation, can that be understood too?
Many of us stay home and wonder why ICANN meetings are important. Some may view it as a travel club or a playground for techies. While you wonder what label to give them, these guys are making policies that could affect you.
What are you doing about it?
Ends
Rebecca Wanjiku, journalist, p.o box 33515, Nairobi.00600 Kenya.
Tel. 254 720 318 925
blog:http://beckyit.blogspot.com/
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Rebecca/Walu, Am tempted to agree with Walu's comments about the percieved lack of commitment by Government. As some of you might be only too aware, good intentions and will by Government sometimes get bogged down by circumstances beyond anybodys immediate control..Archaic legal environment, cumbersome procurement procedures, electoral calendar etc...However, i would like to bring to your attention recent initiatives, hoping these will give an indication of Government's commitment to legislative reform vis a vis e-Commerce and e-Government. 1. Between 13th - 15th November 2006, a stakeholders workshop on electronic transactions was held in Mombasa, in which key groups discussed on the way forward on this matter. KICTANET was ably represented by Walu, among others. This workshop was a national follow up of a regional workshop on cyber-laws and cyber-security for e-Government, held in Kampala in April under the auspices of the EAC, GOK, UNECA and CePRC. The regional workshop resolved to set up two Regional expert working groups on cyber-laws and cyber-security, to develop policy and technical proposals on how we can actualise a supportive legal environment in East Africa.The working groups are presently being constituted. 2. On 11th - 15th December 2006, a technical training workshop is being conducted here in Nairobi on the legal aspects of e-Commerce. The target participants are technical and management staff in various sectors, with heavy representation from Government. The training is being conducted by UNCTAD, GOK and EAC. The aim is to build critical capacity in understanding the policy and technical issues involved in developing a supportive legal environment for e-Commerce. Andrew
Oops! Now that my 'cover' has been blown by Gakiria, I might as well add that when we arrived at the mombasa workshop, we were as 'fatigued' as Rebecca about the wide, wide wait for eLegislation... However, we were briefed right from the SG's mouth (SG - Solicitor General, is the 'learned' term for the PS in AG Office) about the steps towards enacting law and why it may or may not happen in a snap. Generally here are the steps (if i remember correctly). 1. (Relevant) Policy is discussed, agreed and formulated. 2. (Relevant) Draft Bill is formulated, discussed and endorsed through a Cabinet Memorandum 3. The sponsoring (Info&Comm) Ministry then forwards the above to the AG's Office for action. 4. AG's Office would review the Draft Bill -basically generating a final draft that can be presented in Parliarment. Specifically, the implimentation implications (Legal, Financial, Institutional, Human Resource, etc) will be highlighted and forwarded back to the sponsoring Ministry for further consultation. 5. The sponsoring Ministry would then review the revised Draft - particulary with Min of Finance and after consensus, another Cabinent Paper will be made for Cabinet discussion. 6. If Cabinent discusses and reaches consensus, then the sponsoring Ministry would forward the second Cabinent Memorandum to the AG for final review and Publication. 7. And then the Parliamentary Process is ready to begin...(and that you probably agree is a story for another day) Ofcourse, the whole process needs sustained pressure for quick(er) results. But sometimes, when one lacks the inside story, the pressure often comes out as endless negative criticism. This potentially leads to (Governments? other stakeholders?) adopting a non-progressive 'hardline' attitude... walu. --- Gakiria <gakiria@gmail.com> wrote:
Rebecca/Walu,
Am tempted to agree with Walu's comments about the percieved lack of commitment by Government. As some of you might be only too aware, good intentions and will by Government sometimes get bogged down by circumstances beyond anybodys immediate control..Archaic legal environment, cumbersome procurement procedures, electoral calendar etc...However, i would like to bring to your attention recent initiatives, hoping these will give an indication of Government's commitment to legislative reform vis a vis e-Commerce and e-Government.
1. Between 13th - 15th November 2006, a stakeholders workshop on electronic transactions was held in Mombasa, in which key groups discussed on the way forward on this matter. KICTANET was ably represented by Walu, among others. This workshop was a national follow up of a regional workshop on cyber-laws and cyber-security for e-Government, held in Kampala in April under the auspices of the EAC, GOK, UNECA and CePRC. The regional workshop resolved to set up two Regional expert working groups on cyber-laws and cyber-security, to develop policy and technical proposals on how we can actualise a supportive legal environment in East Africa.The working groups are presently being constituted. 2. On 11th - 15th December 2006, a technical training workshop is being conducted here in Nairobi on the legal aspects of e-Commerce. The target participants are technical and management staff in various sectors, with heavy representation from Government. The training is being conducted by UNCTAD, GOK and EAC. The aim is to build critical capacity in understanding the policy and technical issues involved in developing a supportive legal environment for e-Commerce.
Andrew
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Rebecca Wanjiku