Fw: Re: My take: ICT Parks
Hi All, Ian was helpful enough to find the location of the link, please find it below. There is 460 million shillings allocated to application development, I think we need to track it down and make sure it does not get paid to some UK based consultant. The amounts indicated in this document are more than sufficient for the setting up of a pilot ICT Park at the Nairobi or Kenyatta Universities. http://www.ictpark.com/main/ICTV_Magazine_004eGov.pdf Regards Hope you listened to or read the presidents speech on Madaraka day where he actually gave a deadline for implementation of some of the Government projects listed on this document. Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 --- On Thu, 7/1/10, Ian Cook <ian@cymru.com> wrote: From: Ian Cook <ian@cymru.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] My take: ICT Parks To: "robert yawe" <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Thursday, 7 January, 2010, 14:48 robert yawe wrote:
I found this document on the web some time back called the ICT Tsunami,
I have searched by have been unable to find the link to the source so I will extract part of the content. If anyone has the link to the document please circulate it to the rest.
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Robert, As much as I respect your proposals in regards to ICT Park location, it would appear to me we shall be crowding already crowded places. ICT sector should take the lead against this old notion of everything being in Nairobi, we should instead strive to spread resources and wealth across the nation. There are a number of medium sized government institutions across the country with room for expansion. Just my thoughts. Akich Kwach ----- Original Message ----- From: robert yawe To: kwach@archway-productions.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 8:31 AM Subject: [kictanet] Fw: Re: My take: ICT Parks Hi All, Ian was helpful enough to find the location of the link, please find it below. There is 460 million shillings allocated to application development, I think we need to track it down and make sure it does not get paid to some UK based consultant. The amounts indicated in this document are more than sufficient for the setting up of a pilot ICT Park at the Nairobi or Kenyatta Universities. http://www.ictpark.com/main/ICTV_Magazine_004eGov.pdf Regards Hope you listened to or read the presidents speech on Madaraka day where he actually gave a deadline for implementation of some of the Government projects listed on this document. Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 --- On Thu, 7/1/10, Ian Cook <ian@cymru.com> wrote: From: Ian Cook <ian@cymru.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] My take: ICT Parks To: "robert yawe" <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Thursday, 7 January, 2010, 14:48 robert yawe wrote: > I found this document on the web some time back called the ICT Tsunami, I have searched by have been unable to find the link to the source so I will extract part of the content. If anyone has the link to the document please circulate it to the rest. > http://www.ictpark.com/main/ICTV_Magazine_004eGov.pdf -- Ian C Cook Security Evangelist Team Cymru 'To communicate simply you must understand profoundly' Work +1 312 924 5441 Mobile +44 (0) 797 773 1246 Home Office +44 (0) 208 291 0112 Skype ID togglergi PGP Fingerprint: D4CE 9F0D 77E7 3A66 83A6 3133 CBF4 E590 _ //` `\ _,-"\% // /``\`\ ~^~ >__^ |% // / } `\`\ www.team-cymru.org/News/secnews.rss ) )%// / } } }`\`\ http://twitter.com/teamcymru / (%/`/.\_/\_/\_/\`/ www.linkedin.com/in/ianccook ( ` `-._` \ , ( \ _`-.__.- %> /_`\ \ `\ \." `-..- ` ``` /_/`"-=-``/_/ ``` ``` Subscribe to my Security News mailing list at: https://cymru.com/mailman/listinfo/ians_dragon_newsbytes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: kwach@archway-productions.com Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kwach%40archway-product...
Hi Akich, It is good to know that the following for moving away from Nairobi is growing, so I change my suggestion, lets have the 460 million to set up a pilot ICT Park far from Nairobi, far being at least 200 kilometers away. Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 --- On Fri, 8/1/10, Akich Kwach <kwach@archway-productions.com> wrote: From: Akich Kwach <kwach@archway-productions.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fw: Re: My take: ICT Parks To: "robert yawe" <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Friday, 8 January, 2010, 7:02 Robert, As much as I respect your proposals in regards to ICT Park location, it would appear to me we shall be crowding already crowded places. ICT sector should take the lead against this old notion of everything being in Nairobi, we should instead strive to spread resources and wealth across the nation. There are a number of medium sized government institutions across the country with room for expansion. Just my thoughts. Akich Kwach ----- Original Message ----- From: robert yawe To: kwach@archway-productions.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 8:31 AM Subject: [kictanet] Fw: Re: My take: ICT Parks Hi All, Ian was helpful enough to find the location of the link, please find it below. There is 460 million shillings allocated to application development, I think we need to track it down and make sure it does not get paid to some UK based consultant. The amounts indicated in this document are more than sufficient for the setting up of a pilot ICT Park at the Nairobi or Kenyatta Universities. http://www.ictpark.com/main/ICTV_Magazine_004eGov.pdf Regards Hope you listened to or read the presidents speech on Madaraka day where he actually gave a deadline for implementation of some of the Government projects listed on this document. Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 --- On Thu, 7/1/10, Ian Cook <ian@cymru.com> wrote: From: Ian Cook <ian@cymru.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] My take: ICT Parks To: "robert yawe" <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Thursday, 7 January, 2010, 14:48 robert yawe wrote:
I found this document on the web some time back called the ICT Tsunami,
I have searched by have been unable to find the link to the source so I will extract part of the content. If anyone has the link to the document please circulate it to the rest.
http://www.ictpark.com/main/ICTV_Magazine_004eGov.pdf -- Ian C Cook Security Evangelist Team Cymru 'To communicate simply you must understand profoundly' Work +1 312 924 5441 Mobile +44 (0) 797 773 1246 Home Office +44 (0) 208 291 0112 Skype ID togglergi PGP Fingerprint: D4CE 9F0D 77E7 3A66 83A6 3133 CBF4 E590 _ //` `\ _,-"\% // /``\`\ ~^~ >__^ |% // / } `\`\ www.team-cymru.org/News/secnews.rss ) )%// / } } }`\`\ http://twitter.com/teamcymru / (%/`/.\_/\_/\_/\`/ www.linkedin.com/in/ianccook ( ` `-._` \ , ( \ _`-.__.- %> /_`\ \ `\ \." `-..- ` ``` /_/`"-=-``/_/ ``` ``` Subscribe to my Security News mailing list at: https://cymru.com/mailman/listinfo/ians_dragon_newsbytes _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: kwach@archway-productions.com Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kwach%40archway-product...
With availability of fiber -greater capacity at affordable cost ,IT should pioneer decentralized planning by remotely establishing an ICT park …. From: kictanet-bounces+pwalela=strathmore.edu@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+pwalela=strathmore.edu@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of robert yawe Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 3:30 PM To: Pius W Walela Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fw: Re: My take: ICT Parks Hi Akich, It is good to know that the following for moving away from Nairobi is growing, so I change my suggestion, lets have the 460 million to set up a pilot ICT Park far from Nairobi, far being at least 200 kilometers away. Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 --- On Fri, 8/1/10, Akich Kwach <kwach@archway-productions.com> wrote: From: Akich Kwach <kwach@archway-productions.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fw: Re: My take: ICT Parks To: "robert yawe" <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Friday, 8 January, 2010, 7:02 Robert, As much as I respect your proposals in regards to ICT Park location, it would appear to me we shall be crowding already crowded places. ICT sector should take the lead against this old notion of everything being in Nairobi, we should instead strive to spread resources and wealth across the nation. There are a number of medium sized government institutions across the country with room for expansion. Just my thoughts. Akich Kwach ----- Original Message ----- From: robert yawe</mc/compose?to=robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> To: kwach@archway-productions.com</mc/compose?to=kwach@archway-productions.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions</mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 8:31 AM Subject: [kictanet] Fw: Re: My take: ICT Parks Hi All, Ian was helpful enough to find the location of the link, please find it below. There is 460 million shillings allocated to application development, I think we need to track it down and make sure it does not get paid to some UK based consultant. The amounts indicated in this document are more than sufficient for the setting up of a pilot ICT Park at the Nairobi or Kenyatta Universities. http://www.ictpark.com/main/ICTV_Magazine_004eGov.pdf Regards Hope you listened to or read the presidents speech on Madaraka day where he actually gave a deadline for implementation of some of the Government projects listed on this document. Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 --- On Thu, 7/1/10, Ian Cook <ian@cymru.com> wrote: From: Ian Cook <ian@cymru.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] My take: ICT Parks To: "robert yawe" <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Thursday, 7 January, 2010, 14:48 robert yawe wrote:
I found this document on the web some time back called the ICT Tsunami,
I have searched by have been unable to find the link to the source so I will extract part of the content. If anyone has the link to the document please circulate it to the rest.
http://www.ictpark.com/main/ICTV_Magazine_004eGov.pdf -- Ian C Cook Security Evangelist Team Cymru 'To communicate simply you must understand profoundly' Work +1 312 924 5441 Mobile +44 (0) 797 773 1246 Home Office +44 (0) 208 291 0112 Skype ID togglergi PGP Fingerprint: D4CE 9F0D 77E7 3A66 83A6 3133 CBF4 E590 _ //` `\ _,-"\% // /``\`\ ~^~ >__^ |% // / } `\`\ www.team-cymru.org/News/secnews.rss ) )%// / } } }`\`\ http://twitter.com/teamcymru / (%/`/.\_/\_/\_/\`/ www.linkedin.com/in/ianccook ( ` `-._` \ , ( \ _`-.__.- %> /_`\ \ `\ \." `-..- ` ``` /_/`"-=-``/_/ ``` ``` Subscribe to my Security News mailing list at: https://cymru.com/mailman/listinfo/ians_dragon_newsbytes ________________________________ _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: kwach@archway-productions.com Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kwach%40archway-product... ________________________________ Strathmore University provides all-round education in an atmosphere of freedom and responsibility. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for use by the recipient(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential information. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and permanently delete this email and/or any files attached to it from your computer. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Strathmore University. The University accepts no liability whatsoever for any loss or damages incurred, or suffered, resulting, or arising, from the use of this email and/or its attachments. The University warrants neither the integrity of the e-mail nor its freedom from errors, viruses, interception or any other form of interference. …………………………………………………………………. Website: www.strathmore.edu
Dear Colleagues, This is an interesting “dialogue”. As much as we may have diverse suggestions and opinions on the issue of the location of the planned ICT Parks, there are some fundamental underlying factors that we may need to consider: 1) geographically proximate group of interconnected companies and associated institutions, in a particular field could play a fundamental role in the location of this facility. To this end, the concept of cluster could play a fundamental role. Although this may not be a basis of generalization to arrive at the choice of location, but consideration should be given to the geographic concentrations of interconnected companies, specialized suppliers, service providers, firms in related industries, and associated institutions (for example universities, standards agencies, and trade associations) that need to cooperate (and may also compete) in the development of this project noble project. 2) The significant role of location in global economy cannot be underestimated in this context, for both the capital investment expenditures and operational expenses. Cost saving is an important aspect to the choice of the location to make this facility more attractive. The choice of proximate location where lead organizations and institutions in the ICT sector and where users are based, for example where government ministries and many lead universities in ICT, and many international organizations are having their HQ, is important. 3) As much as we may argue that the distance matters little in ICT, but this will definitely play a fundamental role in development of this facility. All the government ministries are their HQs concentrated in Nairobi. Similarly the international private partners that may consider participation in this project are also concentrated in Nairobi. To link these organizations, broadband superhighway will be of paramount importance for achievement of cost effective, efficient and highly reliable connectivity, and this will require the use of high capacity optical fibre cable links for both local connectivity and international access. 4) Other means of connectivity such as satellite can be considered to distribute the services to rural and remote areas, but not where data throughputs are expected to be high. This is because this is a more costly undertaking and satellite is also a scarce resource (on global basis). We may argue that the national backbone fibre can be used to establish this facility away from where most of the organizations a re located. However, for long-term considerations, this option may face constrains on the availability of capacity, and additional costs for expansion will have to be incurred. Also this will definitely require backup links of similar magnitude, to achieve acceptable reliability levels. 5) Considering that in ICT sector, both private and public, are located in Nairobi, makes Nairobi an ideal location. But proximate location to Nairobi such as Athi River is not a bad idea, and is just as good. This could be because getting a space in Nairobi could be more costly undertaking, since most of the land space may have been utilized by the government for other purposes and for private residential housing, and its is already highly congested. Also some spaces may have been grabbed by individuals and could be very costly to acquire. 6) It is therefore important to consider proximate location for ease of planning, and cost effective implementation of this project, to achieve both short-terms objectives and long-term goals. Regards Vitalis Vitalis Olunga Chairman GSM Africa SAFARICOM LIMITED Tel: +254 20 427 3864 Fax:+254 20 427 3897 email: volunga@safaricom.co.ke From: kictanet-bounces+volunga=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+volunga=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Pius W Walela Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 3:47 PM To: Vitalis Olunga Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fw: Re: My take: ICT Parks With availability of fiber -greater capacity at affordable cost ,IT should pioneer decentralized planning by remotely establishing an ICT park …. From: kictanet-bounces+pwalela=strathmore.edu@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+pwalela=strathmore.edu@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of robert yawe Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 3:30 PM To: Pius W Walela Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fw: Re: My take: ICT Parks Hi Akich, It is good to know that the following for moving away from Nairobi is growing, so I change my suggestion, lets have the 460 million to set up a pilot ICT Park far from Nairobi, far being at least 200 kilometers away. Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 --- On Fri, 8/1/10, Akich Kwach <kwach@archway-productions.com> wrote: From: Akich Kwach <kwach@archway-productions.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fw: Re: My take: ICT Parks To: "robert yawe" <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Friday, 8 January, 2010, 7:02 Robert, As much as I respect your proposals in regards to ICT Park location, it would appear to me we shall be crowding already crowded places. ICT sector should take the lead against this old notion of everything being in Nairobi, we should instead strive to spread resources and wealth across the nation. There are a number of medium sized government institutions across the country with room for expansion. Just my thoughts. Akich Kwach ----- Original Message ----- From: robert yawe To: kwach@archway-productions.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 8:31 AM Subject: [kictanet] Fw: Re: My take: ICT Parks Hi All, Ian was helpful enough to find the location of the link, please find it below. There is 460 million shillings allocated to application development, I think we need to track it down and make sure it does not get paid to some UK based consultant. The amounts indicated in this document are more than sufficient for the setting up of a pilot ICT Park at the Nairobi or Kenyatta Universities. http://www.ictpark.com/main/ICTV_Magazine_004eGov.pdf Regards Hope you listened to or read the presidents speech on Madaraka day where he actually gave a deadline for implementation of some of the Government projects listed on this document. Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 --- On Thu, 7/1/10, Ian Cook <ian@cymru.com> wrote: From: Ian Cook <ian@cymru.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] My take: ICT Parks To: "robert yawe" <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Thursday, 7 January, 2010, 14:48 robert yawe wrote:
I found this document on the web some time back called the ICT Tsunami,
I have searched by have been unable to find the link to the source so I will extract part of the content. If anyone has the link to the document please circulate it to the rest.
http://www.ictpark.com/main/ICTV_Magazine_004eGov.pdf -- Ian C Cook Security Evangelist Team Cymru 'To communicate simply you must understand profoundly' Work +1 312 924 5441 Mobile +44 (0) 797 773 1246 Home Office +44 (0) 208 291 0112 Skype ID togglergi PGP Fingerprint: D4CE 9F0D 77E7 3A66 83A6 3133 CBF4 E590 _ //` `\ _,-"\% // /``\`\ ~^~ >__^ |% // / } `\`\ www.team-cymru.org/News/secnews.rss ) )%// / } } }`\`\ http://twitter.com/teamcymru / (%/`/.\_/\_/\_/\`/ www.linkedin.com/in/ianccook ( ` `-._` \ , ( \ _`-.__.- %> /_`\ \ `\ \." `-..- ` ``` /_/`"-=-``/_/ ``` ``` Subscribe to my Security News mailing list at: https://cymru.com/mailman/listinfo/ians_dragon_newsbytes ________________________________ _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: kwach@archway-productions.com Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kwach%40archway-product... ________________________________ Strathmore University provides all-round education in an atmosphere of freedom and responsibility. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for use by the recipient(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential information. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and permanently delete this email and/or any files attached to it from your computer. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Strathmore University. The University accepts no liability whatsoever for any loss or damages incurred, or suffered, resulting, or arising, from the use of this email and/or its attachments. The University warrants neither the integrity of the e-mail nor its freedom from errors, viruses, interception or any other form of interference. …………………………………………………………………. Website: www.strathmore.edu ##################################################################################### NOTE: The information in this email and any attachments is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the named addressee. Emails are susceptible to alteration and their integrity cannot be guaranteed. Safaricom Limited does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this email if the same is found to have been altered or manipulated. The contents and opinions expressed in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Safaricom Limited. Safaricom Limited disclaims any liability to the fullest extent permissible by law for any consequences that may arise from the contents of this email including but not limited to personal opinions, malicious and/or defamatory information and data/codes that may compromise or damage the integrity of the recipient�s information technology systems. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender and immediately delete this email from your system.Unless expressly stated by a duly authorised officer of Safaricom Limited nothing contained in this email message may be construed as being an offer to contract or an acceptance of an offer capable of constituting a contract between Safaricom Limited and any recipient(s) of this email. #####################################################################################
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