Re: [kictanet] Invitation to the 2009 Kenya Internet GovernanceForum (Kenya IGF); 19th August 2009
Alex,
The captioning on the picture will highly and likely cause a fit to ICANN on learning you are their Chairman! :).
The .ZA case is complex and am certain the GM of ZA-DNA would equally find your comments interesting knowing that they have been struggling to find a balance to their current model which is skewed in favor of .co.za registry. They have also considered and discussed a single registry model in the process.
Finally it would be nice if at every opportunity you get to mention IPv6 we could refer to its adoption and not migration. At least for our region that is.
With so much attention on Kenya lately, it would help if we had abit more accuracy in whats printed on the media.
my2cents.
Michuki.
Gakuru Alex wrote:
Vincent,
It quite curious that KENIC ceased posting these announcements to the consumers mailing list. I this http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Company%20Industry/-/539550/618420/-/ u9jiulz/-/index.html did not contribute?
Alex
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Vincent Ngundi<vincent@kenic.or.ke> wrote:
RE: Invitation to the 2009 Kenya Internet Governance Forum (Kenya IGF): Advancing the Internet Governance Debate in Kenya: Thinking Globally; Acting Locally
The Kenya Network Information Centre (KENIC), the Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) and other participating organisations wish to invite you to the 2009 Kenya IGF to be held at the Jacaranda hotel in Nairobi, on the 19th of August 2009.
The 2009 Kenya IGF is a follow up to the 2008 EAIGF review workshop and the 2009 Internet Governance national mailing list discussions.
With the increased access to broadband infrastructure in Kenya and in the East Africa region and the continued spread of sophisticated mobile services, understanding and addressing Internet policy issues has become a priority. The Kenya IGF will help prepare Kenyan Internet stakeholders to address the opportunities, strength and challenges, as well as ensuring that they have a voice in shaping Internet policy decisions at the global level.
The Kenya IGF will therefore provide an opportunity to increase awareness and understanding of Internet governance policy issues and the links with socio-economic, political and cultural development.
The outcomes of the forum will be submitted to the 2009 East Africa Internet Governance Forum (EA-IGF) to be held in Nairobi from the 7th to the 9th of September 2009 and subsequently to the global Internet Governance Forum (IGF) meeting to be held in Sharm El Sheikh, Egypt, in November
Talking of ICANN, Alex who would regulate an east Africa domain, i.e. dot co.ea, et al? Do we have a body looking at this with the talk of ea federation? Best Regards Evans J. Nyagah -----Original Message----- From: kictanet-bounces+ejnyagah=telkom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+ejnyagah=telkom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Gakuru Alex Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 3:52 PM To: Evans J. Nyagah Cc: ke-users; kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke Subject: Re: [kictanet] Invitation to the 2009 Kenya Internet GovernanceForum (Kenya IGF); 19th August 2009 Michuki, Thanks for your review. Consider also writing an article highlighting your issues of interest. Alex On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Michuki Mwangi<michuki@swiftkenya.com> wrote: 2009. The
Kenya IGF will also contribute towards setting the stage for the 37th Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) meeting to be held in Nairobi, Kenya, in March 2010.
As a key player in the Internet industry, it is my pleasure to invite you to the 2009 Kenya IGF. A detailed programme for the event is attached.
For planning purposes, please register for the meeting by sending an email to igf@kenic.or.ke confirming your attendance.
Kind Regards,
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On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Evans J. Nyagah<ejnyagah@telkom.co.ke> wrote:
Talking of ICANN, Alex who would regulate an east Africa domain, i.e. dot co.ea, et al? Do we have a body looking at this with the talk of ea federation?
I remember we discussed this in June 2007. Following is a transcript of what contributors felt...before Kenya changed... hide details 6/19/07 For those in the know, how feasible is introducing a dot [EA] domain. With a lucrative market population of 109 million after adding Rwanda and Burundi into East Africa Community...is it possible to have one website with a [.ea] domain instead of having 5 websites for [.ke], [.ug], [.tz], [.rw] and [.bi]?? And may be soon [.southsudan]?? -- With Kind Regards, Bildad Kagai MD - MediaCorp Limited Suite B2, Tetu Apartments StateHouse Avenue P. O. Box 20311-00200 Tel. 254 20 272 8332 URL. www.mediacorp.co.ke -- hide details 6/19/07 Bill.. Good thought..I guess there should also be an option of copyrighting concepts and ideas. timely and well thought. Ben Makai hide details 6/19/07 may be this will help http://www.icann.org/tlds/new-tld-application-instructions-15aug hide details 6/20/07 Well, there is .EU .. And take it from me, they are not very organized .. Kai hide details 6/20/07 Dear All, It has taken the .EU over 4 years to have it in place. Its taken similary .ASIA the equivalent to have theirs in place. .EA is entered into the IS0-3166-1 standards table and reserved as the country code for Ceuta and Melilla. Hence for ICANN to issue a two letter code, it has to be in the ISO-3166-1 table. There are other requirements that also have to be met for the process to be completed. It requires intense collaboration amongst members of the community to see the application approved by ICANN. For whats it worth its some discussions that we have been having amongst ourselves and there are challenges to this effect. First line of thought is are we at a point ready to thrown in competition to our national ccTLDs?. If to compare with the EU, most ccTLD's within the region are well established with over 100,000 domain names - hence very financially stable. In our region, none of the 3 ccTLDs are above 10,000 domains. Can the ccTLDs compete with the .EA or its equivalent?. Or is the thinking line that we may eventually move to a political federation and hence no need of the .KE, .TZ, .UG, .RW, .BI et al. Regards, Michuki Mwangi - Hide quoted text - Kagwe James wrote:
Anything can change I guess and with the current waves of regional integrations ICANN may have to reconsider its hard stance on this and create another classification of regional top level domains (RTLD) just like the CCTLD's, or something like that.
Bill Kagai to Kenya show details 6/20/07 Perhaps what is important is to ensure we do not get tangled in logistics and endless debate over the [.ea] domain with Melila and Ceuta. An alternative can be an ISO 3166-1 alpha-3 extension [.eac] for [.EastAfricaCommunity] which I have checked is still unclaimed. I do not hold any copyright to the [.eac] or [.ea] idea so if KICTANET or any of its members can run with it, it will be beneficial to me...because I will reach a bigger market for my stock information subscription without the public fret that [.ke] is taking all the business in East Africa. Michuki...I therefore see [.eac] as an aggressive business strategy complimenting [.ke], [.tz] etc and not as competition. Alice...If KICTANET knows some influential people at the East Africa Community Secretariat in Arusha, maybe they can help get things into second gear with ICANN?? Bill
Dot eac is even a better idea but we could reserve dot ea as well, is kenic running with this or it will get lost in the air, I would classify this as a great opportunity for the future of kenic in an itegrated environment. BR Evans Sent from my iPhone On Aug 12, 2009, at 1:04 PM, "Bill Kagai" <billkagai@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Evans J. Nyagah<ejnyagah@telkom.co.ke
wrote: Talking of ICANN, Alex who would regulate an east Africa domain, i.e. dot co.ea, et al? Do we have a body looking at this with the talk of ea federation?
I remember we discussed this in June 2007. Following is a transcript of what contributors felt...before Kenya changed...
hide details 6/19/07
For those in the know, how feasible is introducing a dot [EA] domain. With a lucrative market population of 109 million after adding Rwanda and Burundi into East Africa Community...is it possible to have one website with a [.ea] domain instead of having 5 websites for [.ke], [.ug], [.tz], [.rw] and [.bi]?? And may be soon [.southsudan]??
-- With Kind Regards, Bildad Kagai MD - MediaCorp Limited Suite B2, Tetu Apartments StateHouse Avenue P. O. Box 20311-00200 Tel. 254 20 272 8332 URL. www.mediacorp.co.ke --
hide details 6/19/07
Bill.. Good thought..I guess there should also be an option of copyrighting concepts and ideas. timely and well thought.
Ben Makai hide details 6/19/07
may be this will help http://www.icann.org/tlds/new-tld-application-instructions-15aug
hide details 6/20/07
Well,
there is .EU .. And take it from me, they are not very organized ..
Kai
hide details 6/20/07
Dear All,
It has taken the .EU over 4 years to have it in place. Its taken similary .ASIA the equivalent to have theirs in place. .EA is entered into the IS0-3166-1 standards table and reserved as the country code for Ceuta and Melilla.
Hence for ICANN to issue a two letter code, it has to be in the ISO-3166-1 table.
There are other requirements that also have to be met for the process to be completed. It requires intense collaboration amongst members of the community to see the application approved by ICANN.
For whats it worth its some discussions that we have been having amongst ourselves and there are challenges to this effect.
First line of thought is are we at a point ready to thrown in competition to our national ccTLDs?.
If to compare with the EU, most ccTLD's within the region are well established with over 100,000 domain names - hence very financially stable. In our region, none of the 3 ccTLDs are above 10,000 domains. Can the ccTLDs compete with the .EA or its equivalent?.
Or is the thinking line that we may eventually move to a political federation and hence no need of the .KE, .TZ, .UG, .RW, .BI et al.
Regards, Michuki Mwangi - Hide quoted text -
Kagwe James wrote:
Anything can change I guess and with the current waves of regional integrations ICANN may have to reconsider its hard stance on this and create another classification of regional top level domains (RTLD) just like the CCTLD's, or something like that.
Bill Kagai to Kenya show details 6/20/07
Perhaps what is important is to ensure we do not get tangled in logistics and endless debate over the [.ea] domain with Melila and Ceuta. An alternative can be an ISO 3166-1 alpha-3 extension [.eac] for [.EastAfricaCommunity] which I have checked is still unclaimed.
I do not hold any copyright to the [.eac] or [.ea] idea so if KICTANET or any of its members can run with it, it will be beneficial to me...because I will reach a bigger market for my stock information subscription without the public fret that [.ke] is taking all the business in East Africa.
Michuki...I therefore see [.eac] as an aggressive business strategy complimenting [.ke], [.tz] etc and not as competition.
Alice...If KICTANET knows some influential people at the East Africa Community Secretariat in Arusha, maybe they can help get things into second gear with ICANN??
Bill
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Hi Evans, The two letter codes used for country codes are derived from the ISO-3166-1 table maintained by the International Standardization Organization - ISO (www.iso.org). The two letter codes EA are reserved (not in use) for Ceuta and Melilla Cities which are Spanish enclaves located on the Mediterranean Sea. Its therefore going to be a long approach to reverse this reservation from Spain to East Africa before then proceeding to request for entry of this into the Root Zone from ICANN as a ccTLD similar to what the EU did for the .EU. Applying for the dot EACA means its going to be a sponsored TLD. The approach will be similar to what .ASIA did for their region. There currently exists a procedure for new (sponsored) TLD applications at ICANN. However theres ongoing discussions for opening up the Root to more gTLDs. More information on this discussion is available on the ICANN website http://www.icann.org/en/topics/new-gtld-program.htm The next round of applications for new gTLDs should be likely in late 2009 or 2010 depending on the outcome of the discussions. Points to consider is that a sponsored TLD costs money (lots of money) and will meet a stringent technical and financial model requirements. As such, while its a good to have the question to ask is; is there a business case for domain names in the region to warrant for the creation of a regional gTLD. How have our ccTLDs faired in comparison with the existing gTLDs and what opportunities would this present should we choose to proceed with this initiative?. my2cents. Regards, Michuki. Evans J. Nyagah wrote:
Dot eac is even a better idea but we could reserve dot ea as well, is kenic running with this or it will get lost in the air, I would classify this as a great opportunity for the future of kenic in an itegrated environment.
BR Evans
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 12, 2009, at 1:04 PM, "Bill Kagai" <billkagai@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Evans J. Nyagah<ejnyagah@telkom.co.ke> wrote:
Talking of ICANN, Alex who would regulate an east Africa domain, i.e. dot co.ea, et al? Do we have a body looking at this with the talk of ea federation?
I remember we discussed this in June 2007. Following is a transcript of what contributors felt...before Kenya changed...
hide details 6/19/07
For those in the know, how feasible is introducing a dot [EA] domain. With a lucrative market population of 109 million after adding Rwanda and Burundi into East Africa Community...is it possible to have one website with a [.ea] domain instead of having 5 websites for [.ke], [.ug], [.tz], [.rw] and [.bi]?? And may be soon [.southsudan]??
-- With Kind Regards, Bildad Kagai MD - MediaCorp Limited Suite B2, Tetu Apartments StateHouse Avenue P. O. Box 20311-00200 Tel. 254 20 272 8332 URL. www.mediacorp.co.ke --
hide details 6/19/07
Bill.. Good thought..I guess there should also be an option of copyrighting concepts and ideas. timely and well thought.
Ben Makai hide details 6/19/07
may be this will help http://www.icann.org/tlds/new-tld-application-instructions-15aug
hide details 6/20/07
Well,
there is .EU .. And take it from me, they are not very organized ..
Kai
hide details 6/20/07
Dear All,
It has taken the .EU over 4 years to have it in place. Its taken similary .ASIA the equivalent to have theirs in place. .EA is entered into the IS0-3166-1 standards table and reserved as the country code for Ceuta and Melilla.
Hence for ICANN to issue a two letter code, it has to be in the ISO-3166-1 table.
There are other requirements that also have to be met for the process to be completed. It requires intense collaboration amongst members of the community to see the application approved by ICANN.
For whats it worth its some discussions that we have been having amongst ourselves and there are challenges to this effect.
First line of thought is are we at a point ready to thrown in competition to our national ccTLDs?.
If to compare with the EU, most ccTLD's within the region are well established with over 100,000 domain names - hence very financially stable. In our region, none of the 3 ccTLDs are above 10,000 domains. Can the ccTLDs compete with the .EA or its equivalent?.
Or is the thinking line that we may eventually move to a political federation and hence no need of the .KE, .TZ, .UG, .RW, .BI et al.
Regards, Michuki Mwangi - Hide quoted text -
Kagwe James wrote:
Anything can change I guess and with the current waves of regional integrations ICANN may have to reconsider its hard stance on this and create another classification of regional top level domains (RTLD) just like the CCTLD's, or something like that.
Bill Kagai to Kenya show details 6/20/07
Perhaps what is important is to ensure we do not get tangled in logistics and endless debate over the [.ea] domain with Melila and Ceuta. An alternative can be an ISO 3166-1 alpha-3 extension [.eac] for [.EastAfricaCommunity] which I have checked is still unclaimed.
I do not hold any copyright to the [.eac] or [.ea] idea so if KICTANET or any of its members can run with it, it will be beneficial to me...because I will reach a bigger market for my stock information subscription without the public fret that [.ke] is taking all the business in East Africa.
Michuki...I therefore see [.eac] as an aggressive business strategy complimenting [.ke], [.tz] etc and not as competition.
Alice...If KICTANET knows some influential people at the East Africa Community Secretariat in Arusha, maybe they can help get things into second gear with ICANN??
Bill
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