How to destroy value and the Ecosystem at Silicon Savannah
Listers I'm sure by now most of us have read about the goings on at Angani. There has been a very loud and noticeable silence on this list regarding this issue. I suspect mainly because many of us know the protagonists and possibly also (at least I'd like to believe) that this list has become more responsible on what we all write and share. However I think we must be very vocal for the right reasons. Through out all this unfolding events two key constituents seem to have been almost forgotten:- 1. The Customer 2. The Community (or ecosystem if you will) In my own small way, I'm standing to be counted for the above. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/how-destroy-value-ecosystem-silicon-savannah-... *Ali Hussein* *Hussein & Associates* Tel: +254 770 906375/ 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> Blog: www.alyhussein.com Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.
Hi Ali, Many thanks for this incisive and timely write up. 1. It is an unfortunate state of affairs and many of us have chosen to bury our heads in the sand because of the relationships we have with the protagonists. To use a laymans analogy, it is a bad dream, be that as it may, joy will come in the morning. 2. This scenario has become common in the ICT Eco-system. As stakeholders we need to deliberately and intentionally invest in learning a few things about Corporate governance. For those who have been following developments in the industry, you can actually identify organizations in the Public, Private Sector and Civil Society that have gone through serious challenges due to corporate governance issues despite immense goodwill and talented membership. Indeed as techies or tech oriented people we need to move away from the back office and embrace front office as well as management /governance/finance related issues. 3. As a member of the Joint Technical Commitee 93 on IT Security at Kenya Bureu of Standards, we have been working on Standards application for Cloud Computing Service providers, we realized that none of the companies locally have actually deployed this standards yet they would have addressed and mitigated the issues faced by Angani which extended to the companies customers. That said we have learnt very important lessons as a tech community. The Standards should be available for purchase at the Kenya Bureu of Standards library soon and we encourage listers to invest in the same especially cloud service solution providers. 4. Finally i also encourage our colleagues involved to find an amicable way out of the quagmire. As a community, let us take the conciliatory path and avoid blogging rumours which are creating more confusion. My ten cents for now Regards On 11/24/15, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
I'm sure by now most of us have read about the goings on at Angani. There has been a very loud and noticeable silence on this list regarding this issue. I suspect mainly because many of us know the protagonists and possibly also (at least I'd like to believe) that this list has become more responsible on what we all write and share. However I think we must be very vocal for the right reasons. Through out all this unfolding events two key constituents seem to have been almost forgotten:-
1. The Customer 2. The Community (or ecosystem if you will)
In my own small way, I'm standing to be counted for the above.
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/how-destroy-value-ecosystem-silicon-savannah-...
*Ali Hussein*
*Hussein & Associates*
Tel: +254 770 906375/ 713 601113
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Agreed Mr. Ali, Further to that, tech and Innovation is a national issue. We all need to work together to build a great nation. This is why we wrote this: https://letafricainnovate.wordpress.com/2015/11/24/lets-not-destroy-our-achi... On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 7:23 AM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Ali,
Many thanks for this incisive and timely write up.
1. It is an unfortunate state of affairs and many of us have chosen to bury our heads in the sand because of the relationships we have with the protagonists. To use a laymans analogy, it is a bad dream, be that as it may, joy will come in the morning.
2. This scenario has become common in the ICT Eco-system. As stakeholders we need to deliberately and intentionally invest in learning a few things about Corporate governance. For those who have been following developments in the industry, you can actually identify organizations in the Public, Private Sector and Civil Society that have gone through serious challenges due to corporate governance issues despite immense goodwill and talented membership. Indeed as techies or tech oriented people we need to move away from the back office and embrace front office as well as management /governance/finance related issues.
3. As a member of the Joint Technical Commitee 93 on IT Security at Kenya Bureu of Standards, we have been working on Standards application for Cloud Computing Service providers, we realized that none of the companies locally have actually deployed this standards yet they would have addressed and mitigated the issues faced by Angani which extended to the companies customers. That said we have learnt very important lessons as a tech community. The Standards should be available for purchase at the Kenya Bureu of Standards library soon and we encourage listers to invest in the same especially cloud service solution providers.
4. Finally i also encourage our colleagues involved to find an amicable way out of the quagmire. As a community, let us take the conciliatory path and avoid blogging rumours which are creating more confusion.
My ten cents for now
Regards On 11/24/15, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
I'm sure by now most of us have read about the goings on at Angani. There has been a very loud and noticeable silence on this list regarding this issue. I suspect mainly because many of us know the protagonists and possibly also (at least I'd like to believe) that this list has become more responsible on what we all write and share. However I think we must be very vocal for the right reasons. Through out all this unfolding events two key constituents seem to have been almost forgotten:-
1. The Customer 2. The Community (or ecosystem if you will)
In my own small way, I'm standing to be counted for the above.
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/how-destroy-value-ecosystem-silicon-savannah-...
*Ali Hussein*
*Hussein & Associates*
Tel: +254 770 906375/ 713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
Blog: www.alyhussein.com
Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.
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Thoughtful piece Ali, Thank you for sharing it. I too will continue to be a customer. Daudi On 24 November 2015 at 05:26, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
I'm sure by now most of us have read about the goings on at Angani. There has been a very loud and noticeable silence on this list regarding this issue. I suspect mainly because many of us know the protagonists and possibly also (at least I'd like to believe) that this list has become more responsible on what we all write and share. However I think we must be very vocal for the right reasons. Through out all this unfolding events two key constituents seem to have been almost forgotten:-
1. The Customer 2. The Community (or ecosystem if you will)
In my own small way, I'm standing to be counted for the above.
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/how-destroy-value-ecosystem-silicon-savannah-...
*Ali Hussein*
*Hussein & Associates*
Tel: +254 770 906375/ 713 601113
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"After all when you are looking at a Start-up what you are really doing is investing in the people." You could not have put it better Ali. But the glass is indeed half full (or refillable). Someone just needs to take leadership. Regards, 2015-11-24 10:31 GMT+03:00 Daudi Were via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>:
Thoughtful piece Ali, Thank you for sharing it. I too will continue to be a customer. Daudi
On 24 November 2015 at 05:26, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
I'm sure by now most of us have read about the goings on at Angani. There has been a very loud and noticeable silence on this list regarding this issue. I suspect mainly because many of us know the protagonists and possibly also (at least I'd like to believe) that this list has become more responsible on what we all write and share. However I think we must be very vocal for the right reasons. Through out all this unfolding events two key constituents seem to have been almost forgotten:-
1. The Customer 2. The Community (or ecosystem if you will)
In my own small way, I'm standing to be counted for the above.
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/how-destroy-value-ecosystem-silicon-savannah-...
*Ali Hussein*
*Hussein & Associates*
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Thanks Ali.We have been following this debate and like you rightly point out, the blogs have assumed different angles depending on which side the blogger(s) is supporting. Unfortunately, this is not good for our start ups. Hopefully, this matter will be resolved amicably. The protagonists ni watu wetu. Hopefully, this matter gets resolved amicably.RgdsGG Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 05:26:34 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] How to destroy value and the Ecosystem at Silicon Savannah From: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke CC: ali@hussein.me.ke To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com Listers I'm sure by now most of us have read about the goings on at Angani. There has been a very loud and noticeable silence on this list regarding this issue. I suspect mainly because many of us know the protagonists and possibly also (at least I'd like to believe) that this list has become more responsible on what we all write and share. However I think we must be very vocal for the right reasons. Through out all this unfolding events two key constituents seem to have been almost forgotten:- 1. The Customer 2. The Community (or ecosystem if you will) In my own small way, I'm standing to be counted for the above. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/how-destroy-value-ecosystem-silicon-savannah-... Ali HusseinHussein & Associates Tel: +254 770 906375/ 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ggithaiga%40hotmail.co... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
Grace and all Indeed. Happy to note that there is a meeting at Nailab today to discuss way forward for the ecosystem. Short notice but if one can make it would be good. Regards *Ali Hussein* *Hussein & Associates* Tel: +254 770 906375/ 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> Blog: www.alyhussein.com Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 3:53 PM, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Ali. We have been following this debate and like you rightly point out, the blogs have assumed different angles depending on which side the blogger(s) is supporting. Unfortunately, this is not good for our start ups. Hopefully, this matter will be resolved amicably. The protagonists ni watu wetu. Hopefully, this matter gets resolved amicably. Rgds GG
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 05:26:34 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] How to destroy value and the Ecosystem at Silicon Savannah From: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke CC: ali@hussein.me.ke To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com
Listers
I'm sure by now most of us have read about the goings on at Angani. There has been a very loud and noticeable silence on this list regarding this issue. I suspect mainly because many of us know the protagonists and possibly also (at least I'd like to believe) that this list has become more responsible on what we all write and share. However I think we must be very vocal for the right reasons. Through out all this unfolding events two key constituents seem to have been almost forgotten:-
1. The Customer 2. The Community (or ecosystem if you will)
In my own small way, I'm standing to be counted for the above.
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/how-destroy-value-ecosystem-silicon-savannah-...
*Ali Hussein*
*Hussein & Associates*
Tel: +254 770 906375/ 713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
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Thanks Ali. Please keep us posted. RgdsGG Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2015 16:03:47 +0300 Subject: Re: [kictanet] How to destroy value and the Ecosystem at Silicon Savannah From: ali@hussein.me.ke To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com CC: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke Grace and all Indeed. Happy to note that there is a meeting at Nailab today to discuss way forward for the ecosystem. Short notice but if one can make it would be good. Regards Ali HusseinHussein & Associates Tel: +254 770 906375/ 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 3:53 PM, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com> wrote: Thanks Ali.We have been following this debate and like you rightly point out, the blogs have assumed different angles depending on which side the blogger(s) is supporting. Unfortunately, this is not good for our start ups. Hopefully, this matter will be resolved amicably. The protagonists ni watu wetu. Hopefully, this matter gets resolved amicably.RgdsGG Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 05:26:34 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] How to destroy value and the Ecosystem at Silicon Savannah From: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke CC: ali@hussein.me.ke To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com Listers I'm sure by now most of us have read about the goings on at Angani. There has been a very loud and noticeable silence on this list regarding this issue. I suspect mainly because many of us know the protagonists and possibly also (at least I'd like to believe) that this list has become more responsible on what we all write and share. However I think we must be very vocal for the right reasons. Through out all this unfolding events two key constituents seem to have been almost forgotten:- 1. The Customer 2. The Community (or ecosystem if you will) In my own small way, I'm standing to be counted for the above. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/how-destroy-value-ecosystem-silicon-savannah-... Ali Hussein Hussein & Associates Tel: +254 770 906375/ 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ggithaiga%40hotmail.co... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
Here is a useful link with a lot of what was discussed in text format: https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/Tech_Round_Table This was just the first forum. I think we need more. On Nov 25, 2015 4:36 PM, "Grace Githaiga via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Thanks Ali. Please keep us posted.
Rgds GG
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2015 16:03:47 +0300 Subject: Re: [kictanet] How to destroy value and the Ecosystem at Silicon Savannah From: ali@hussein.me.ke To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com CC: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke
Grace and all
Indeed. Happy to note that there is a meeting at Nailab today to discuss way forward for the ecosystem. Short notice but if one can make it would be good.
Regards
*Ali Hussein*
*Hussein & Associates*
Tel: +254 770 906375/ 713 601113
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Blog: www.alyhussein.com
Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 3:53 PM, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Ali. We have been following this debate and like you rightly point out, the blogs have assumed different angles depending on which side the blogger(s) is supporting. Unfortunately, this is not good for our start ups. Hopefully, this matter will be resolved amicably. The protagonists ni watu wetu. Hopefully, this matter gets resolved amicably. Rgds GG
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 05:26:34 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] How to destroy value and the Ecosystem at Silicon Savannah From: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke CC: ali@hussein.me.ke To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com
Listers
I'm sure by now most of us have read about the goings on at Angani. There has been a very loud and noticeable silence on this list regarding this issue. I suspect mainly because many of us know the protagonists and possibly also (at least I'd like to believe) that this list has become more responsible on what we all write and share. However I think we must be very vocal for the right reasons. Through out all this unfolding events two key constituents seem to have been almost forgotten:-
1. The Customer 2. The Community (or ecosystem if you will)
In my own small way, I'm standing to be counted for the above.
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/how-destroy-value-ecosystem-silicon-savannah-...
*Ali Hussein* *Hussein & Associates*
Tel: +254 770 906375/ 713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
Blog: www.alyhussein.com
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Ahmed Mohamed Maawy -
Ali Hussein -
Barrack Otieno -
Daudi Were -
Grace Githaiga -
Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) -
Josiah Mugambi