Re: [kictanet] South Africa embraces ICT in polls

Well our census is up in a few months. Let's see if technology will be used to verify the truth of the collected data. I believe in a system where everything works like it's supposed to, data from deaths, births, immigration (and whatever affects population size) can be used to update the population statistics, and a census only conducted in areas where there seems to be an abnormal population size change (small-scale census). Technology can go a long way into making this a reality. I believe the cost of maintaining the technology and doing small-scale census would be cheaper than doing an entire census every decade. O_O --- On Thu, 4/16/09, John Walubengo <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote: From: John Walubengo <jwalu@yahoo.com> Subject: [kictanet] South Africa embraces ICT in polls To: kiriinya2000@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Thursday, April 16, 2009, 11:04 AM Not sure if our next "Kivuitu" wants to hear things like below ;-) walu. ~~~~~~ By CHARLES OMOND IPosted Thursday, April 16 2009 at 10:41 In Summary As the rest of the continent dithers, use of information communication technology in South Africa's political processes has enabled thousands of its citizens overseas to vote, a whole week ahead of their home-based compatriots. JOHANNESBURG, Thursday As the rest of Africa dithers, South Africa has moved fast to embrace information communication technology as part of its political processes. And as a result of the revolutionary move, thousands of eligible voters have already cast their ballots away from home and a whole week ahead of their home-based compatriots. Rest of the story... http://www.nation.co.ke/News/africa/-/1066/560768/-/13ph0aiz/-/index.html walu. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: kiriinya2000@yahoo.com Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kiriinya2000%40yahoo.co...

A few years back at the Safaricom offices, President Kibaki tasked former Info & Comm Minister with implementing such "Digitization" in government. What ever happened to that? **Is PS Ndemo still tasked with implementing digitization? Regards, Wainaina On 4/16/09, wesley kiriinya <kiriinya2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well our census is up in a few months. Let's see if technology will be used to verify the truth of the collected data.
I believe in a system where everything works like it's supposed to, data from deaths, births, immigration (and whatever affects population size) can be used to update the population statistics, and a census only conducted in areas where there seems to be an abnormal population size change (small-scale census). Technology can go a long way into making this a reality. I believe the cost of maintaining the technology and doing small-scale census would be cheaper than doing an entire census every decade.
O_O
--- On Thu, 4/16/09, John Walubengo <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: John Walubengo <jwalu@yahoo.com> Subject: [kictanet] South Africa embraces ICT in polls To: kiriinya2000@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Thursday, April 16, 2009, 11:04 AM
Not sure if our next "Kivuitu" wants to hear things like below ;-)
walu. ~~~~~~ By CHARLES OMOND IPosted Thursday, April 16 2009 at 10:41
In Summary
As the rest of the continent dithers, use of information communication technology in South Africa's political processes has enabled thousands of its citizens overseas to vote, a whole week ahead of their home-based compatriots.
JOHANNESBURG, Thursday As the rest of Africa dithers, South Africa has moved fast to embrace information communication technology as part of its political processes. And as a result of the revolutionary move, thousands of eligible voters have already cast their ballots away from home and a whole week ahead of their home-based compatriots.
Rest of the story... http://www.nation.co.ke/News/africa/-/1066/560768/-/13ph0aiz/-/index.html
walu.
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Wainaina, Indeed we have made progress in this end. The Lands, Judiciary, Motor Vhicle, and Pension Dept registries are being prepared for digitization. It takes time to go through the procurement process and fighting resistance from staff. It is not all that easy as I once thought. We shall not give up though. Parliament has to pass the FOI for all the digitization to stimulate enterprise. Regards Ndemo.
A few years back at the Safaricom offices, President Kibaki tasked former Info & Comm Minister with implementing such "Digitization" in government. What ever happened to that?
**Is PS Ndemo still tasked with implementing digitization?
Regards, Wainaina
On 4/16/09, wesley kiriinya <kiriinya2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well our census is up in a few months. Let's see if technology will be used to verify the truth of the collected data.
I believe in a system where everything works like it's supposed to, data from deaths, births, immigration (and whatever affects population size) can be used to update the population statistics, and a census only conducted in areas where there seems to be an abnormal population size change (small-scale census). Technology can go a long way into making this a reality. I believe the cost of maintaining the technology and doing small-scale census would be cheaper than doing an entire census every decade.
O_O
--- On Thu, 4/16/09, John Walubengo <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: John Walubengo <jwalu@yahoo.com> Subject: [kictanet] South Africa embraces ICT in polls To: kiriinya2000@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Thursday, April 16, 2009, 11:04 AM
Not sure if our next "Kivuitu" wants to hear things like below ;-)
walu. ~~~~~~ By CHARLES OMOND IPosted Thursday, April 16 2009 at 10:41
In Summary
As the rest of the continent dithers, use of information communication technology in South Africa's political processes has enabled thousands of its citizens overseas to vote, a whole week ahead of their home-based compatriots.
JOHANNESBURG, Thursday As the rest of Africa dithers, South Africa has moved fast to embrace information communication technology as part of its political processes. And as a result of the revolutionary move, thousands of eligible voters have already cast their ballots away from home and a whole week ahead of their home-based compatriots.
Rest of the story... http://www.nation.co.ke/News/africa/-/1066/560768/-/13ph0aiz/-/index.html
walu.
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On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 6:09 PM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
resistance from staff. It is not all that easy as I once thought. We shall not give up though. Parliament has to pass the FOI for all the digitization to stimulate enterprise.
The Media: Please help in exposing more Civil Servants frustrating openness in government. How does FOI threaten their interests? Why is the Official Secrets Act their continued corruption cover-up. What corruption perpetuating networks and cartels exist? Tally which MPs declare their support for FOI if tabled in parliament today? regards, Alex

Dakitari, I believe no matter how much pressure and resistance is coming from some civil servants, they will have to give in, only when proper mechanisms and laws are put in place. On 17/04/2009, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 6:09 PM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
resistance from staff. It is not all that easy as I once thought. We shall not give up though. Parliament has to pass the FOI for all the digitization to stimulate enterprise.
The Media:
Please help in exposing more Civil Servants frustrating openness in government. How does FOI threaten their interests? Why is the Official Secrets Act their continued corruption cover-up. What corruption perpetuating networks and cartels exist? Tally which MPs declare their support for FOI if tabled in parliament today?
regards,
Alex
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participants (5)
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bitange@jambo.co.ke
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Gakuru Alex
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Solomon Mburu
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Wainaina Mungai
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wesley kiriinya