Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Re: The Size of this Elephant (from my blog)
Paul, There's a possibility that within this list lies a great deal of wisdom that, when included in the #140friday conversation, would result in a document the PS would be glad to put before the Cabinet. Is it possible to have the working policy document on here for discussion? It is an ICT policy issue after all, isn't it? Paul, capability and capacity problems are solved in part through education. Is the KICTB consulting with the MoE on ways to improve this? Is there anyway KICTANET can contribute to help the conversation along? Kind regards, Muchiri Nyaggah On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 10:13 PM, Alex Gakuru <gakuru@gmail.com> wrote:
Paul,
I prefer public responses to public discussions to remain as such, maintaining the same spheres of intended audiences i.e. as policy opposed to the practice of public responses in certain tones 'compensated' through private messages in a different tone, unless the parties publicly agreed to take their conversation off list.
Alex
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Paul Kukubo <paulkukubo@ict.go.ke> wrote:
Alex
Don't mean to be dismissive. On the contrary, I am curious as anyone else on this.
While that is going on, we must keep our eyes on the wider issues that merit the discussions we have been undertaking.
Asante.
Sent from my iPad
On May 1, 2012, at 9:55 PM, Alex Gakuru <gakuru@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Paul Kukubo <pkukubo@ict.go.ke> wrote:
As for the #140Friday debate, if you care to share what you heard, I'd be happy to understand what the conspiracy was about. It would not change the substantive arguments in any way.
I notice you forgot to include my message on the same on this forward. But as stated, received that information in confidence therefore not at liberty to share. Curious you immediately dismiss it as "consipracy" so quickly? Shouldn't we be patient and wait to see how that one unfolds?
regards,
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Muchri Agreed. The Kenya ICT Board is concerned largely with matters of implementation. This discussion is critical because it touches on development of enterprises. If you read my blog, I suggested that enterprise development was a combination of many factors education included. And yes that engagement does take place. Paul Kukubo CEO Kenya ICT Board. On Tuesday, May 1, 2012, Muchiri Nyaggah wrote:
Paul,
There's a possibility that within this list lies a great deal of wisdom that, when included in the #140friday conversation, would result in a document the PS would be glad to put before the Cabinet.
Is it possible to have the working policy document on here for discussion? It is an ICT policy issue after all, isn't it?
Paul, capability and capacity problems are solved in part through education. Is the KICTB consulting with the MoE on ways to improve this? Is there anyway KICTANET can contribute to help the conversation along?
Kind regards,
Muchiri Nyaggah
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 10:13 PM, Alex Gakuru <gakuru@gmail.com<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'gakuru@gmail.com');>
wrote:
Paul,
I prefer public responses to public discussions to remain as such, maintaining the same spheres of intended audiences i.e. as policy opposed to the practice of public responses in certain tones 'compensated' through private messages in a different tone, unless the parties publicly agreed to take their conversation off list.
Alex
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Paul Kukubo <paulkukubo@ict.go.ke<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'paulkukubo@ict.go.ke');>
wrote:
Alex
Don't mean to be dismissive. On the contrary, I am curious as anyone else on this.
While that is going on, we must keep our eyes on the wider issues that merit the discussions we have been undertaking.
Asante.
Sent from my iPad
On May 1, 2012, at 9:55 PM, Alex Gakuru <gakuru@gmail.com<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'gakuru@gmail.com');>> wrote:
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Paul Kukubo <pkukubo@ict.go.ke<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'pkukubo@ict.go.ke');>
wrote:
As for the #140Friday debate, if you care to share what you heard, I'd be happy to understand what the conspiracy was about. It would not change the substantive arguments in any way.
I notice you forgot to include my message on the same on this forward. But as stated, received that information in confidence therefore not at liberty to share. Curious you immediately dismiss it as "consipracy" so quickly? Shouldn't we be patient and wait to see how that one unfolds?
regards,
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Kukubo Would you mind sharing the working document developed as a result of 140friday? The discussion on this list pointed the policy document would have ramifications that affect SMEs in the ICT sector. As Muchiri rightly points out, there lies a great wisdom on this list that would contribute to strengthening it. RgdsGGDate: Wed, 2 May 2012 08:33:31 +0300 From: pkukubo@ict.go.ke Subject: Re: [kictanet] The Size of this Elephant (from my blog) CC: paulkukubo@ict.go.ke; skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke; ke-internetusers@bdix.net; kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com Muchri Agreed. The Kenya ICT Board is concerned largely with matters of implementation. This discussion is critical because it touches on development of enterprises. If you read my blog, I suggested that enterprise development was a combination of many factors education included. And yes that engagement does take place. Paul KukuboCEO Kenya ICT Board. On Tuesday, May 1, 2012, Muchiri Nyaggah wrote: Paul, There's a possibility that within this list lies a great deal of wisdom that, when included in the #140friday conversation, would result in a document the PS would be glad to put before the Cabinet. Is it possible to have the working policy document on here for discussion? It is an ICT policy issue after all, isn't it? Paul, capability and capacity problems are solved in part through education. Is the KICTB consulting with the MoE on ways to improve this? Is there anyway KICTANET can contribute to help the conversation along? Kind regards, Muchiri Nyaggah On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 10:13 PM, Alex Gakuru <gakuru@gmail.com> wrote: Paul, I prefer public responses to public discussions to remain as such, maintaining the same spheres of intended audiences i.e. as policy opposed to the practice of public responses in certain tones 'compensated' through private messages in a different tone, unless the parties publicly agreed to take their conversation off list. Alex On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Paul Kukubo <paulkukubo@ict.go.ke> wrote: Alex Don't mean to be dismissive. On the contrary, I am curious as anyone else on this. While that is going on, we must keep our eyes on the wider issues that merit the discussions we have been undertaking. Asante. Sent from my iPad On May 1, 2012, at 9:55 PM, Alex Gakuru <gakuru@gmail.com> wrote: On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Paul Kukubo <pkukubo@ict.go.ke> wrote: As for the #140Friday debate, if you care to share what you heard, I'd be happy to understand what the conspiracy was about. It would not change the substantive arguments in any way. I notice you forgot to include my message on the same on this forward. But as stated, received that information in confidence therefore not at liberty to share. Curious you immediately dismiss it as "consipracy" so quickly? Shouldn't we be patient and wait to see how that one unfolds? regards, _______________________________________________ ke-internetusers mailing list ke-internetusers@bdix.net http://www.bdix.net/mailman/listinfo/ke-internetusers -- Paul Kukubo Chief Executive Officer, Kenya ICT Board PO Box 27150 - 00100 Nairobi, Kenya 12th Floor, Teleposta Towers Koinange Street Tel +254 20 2089061, +254 20 2211960 Fax: +254 20 2211962 website: www.ict.go.ke local content project: www.tandaa.co.ke, www.facebook.com/tandaakenya twitter:@tandaaKENYA BPO Project: www. doitinkenya.co.ke Digital Villages Project: www.pasha.co.ke personal contacts _______________ Cell: + 254 717 180001 skype: kukubopaul googletalk: pkukubo personal blog: www.paulkukubo.co.ke personal twitter: @pkukubo ____________________ Vision: Kenya becomes a top ten global ICT hub Mission: To champion and actively enable Kenya to adopt and exploit ICT, through promotion of partnerships, investments and infrastructure growth for socio economic enrichment _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ggithaiga%40hotmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
Hi all, It has been a challenge finding an appropriate tool for the collaboration and coordination of multiple inputs needed on the #140Friday Policy Paper. We have tried to use Google Docs but that hasn't worked out very well. I have found a lighter, and seemingly more appropriate tool called Sync.in - please find the current draft at http://sync.in/uQhr7V3IO4 (which I am continuing to update with scattered inputs gathered over the past 6 weeks from here and there). Please type in your name in the field on the right so that we can be able to make attributions when the time comes. Let's hope this works! Best regards, Brian On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com>wrote:
Kukubo
Would you mind sharing the working document developed as a result of 140friday? The discussion on this list pointed the policy document would have ramifications that affect SMEs in the ICT sector. As Muchiri rightly points out, there lies a great wisdom on this list that would contribute to strengthening it.
Rgds GG ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 08:33:31 +0300 From: pkukubo@ict.go.ke Subject: Re: [kictanet] The Size of this Elephant (from my blog) CC: paulkukubo@ict.go.ke; skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke; ke-internetusers@bdix.net; kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com
Muchri
Agreed. The Kenya ICT Board is concerned largely with matters of implementation. This discussion is critical because it touches on development of enterprises.
If you read my blog, I suggested that enterprise development was a combination of many factors education included. And yes that engagement does take place.
Paul Kukubo CEO Kenya ICT Board.
On Tuesday, May 1, 2012, Muchiri Nyaggah wrote:
Paul,
There's a possibility that within this list lies a great deal of wisdom that, when included in the #140friday conversation, would result in a document the PS would be glad to put before the Cabinet.
Is it possible to have the working policy document on here for discussion? It is an ICT policy issue after all, isn't it?
Paul, capability and capacity problems are solved in part through education. Is the KICTB consulting with the MoE on ways to improve this? Is there anyway KICTANET can contribute to help the conversation along?
Kind regards,
Muchiri Nyaggah
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 10:13 PM, Alex Gakuru <gakuru@gmail.com> wrote:
Paul,
I prefer public responses to public discussions to remain as such, maintaining the same spheres of intended audiences i.e. as policy opposed to the practice of public responses in certain tones 'compensated' through private messages in a different tone, unless the parties publicly agreed to take their conversation off list.
Alex
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Paul Kukubo <paulkukubo@ict.go.ke> wrote:
Alex
Don't mean to be dismissive. On the contrary, I am curious as anyone else on this.
While that is going on, we must keep our eyes on the wider issues that merit the discussions we have been undertaking.
Asante.
Sent from my iPad
On May 1, 2012, at 9:55 PM, Alex Gakuru <gakuru@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Paul Kukubo <pkukubo@ict.go.ke> wrote:
As for the #140Friday debate, if you care to share what you heard, I'd be happy to understand what the conspiracy was about. It would not change the substantive arguments in any way.
I notice you forgot to include my message on the same on this forward. But as stated, received that information in confidence therefore not at liberty to share. Curious you immediately dismiss it as "consipracy" so quickly? Shouldn't we be patient and wait to see how that one unfolds?
regards,
_______________________________________________ ke-internetusers mailing list ke-internetusers@bdix.net http://www.bdix.net/mailman/listinfo/ke-internetusers
-- Paul Kukubo Chief Executive Officer, Kenya ICT Board PO Box 27150 - 00100 Nairobi, Kenya
12th Floor, Teleposta Towers Koinange Street
Tel +254 20 2089061, +254 20 2211960 Fax: +254 20 2211962 website: www.ict.go.ke local content project: www.tandaa.co.ke, www.facebook.com/tandaakenya twitter:@tandaaKENYA BPO Project: www. doitinkenya.co.ke Digital Villages Project: www.pasha.co.ke
personal contacts _______________
Cell: + 254 717 180001
skype: kukubopaul googletalk: pkukubo personal blog: www.paulkukubo.co.ke personal twitter: @pkukubo
____________________ Vision: Kenya becomes a top ten global ICT hub
Mission: To champion and actively enable Kenya to adopt and exploit ICT, through promotion of partnerships, investments and infrastructure growth for socio economic enrichment
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Brian Munyao Longwe -
Grace Githaiga -
Muchiri Nyaggah -
Paul Kukubo