Re: [kictanet] Laptop project: Pre-bid Conference
http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/ktn/video/watch/2000068926/-government-sets-t... This video talks about three points: a) Bidders want to extend the timeline: Why would government like to extend the timeline? Will they still meet the delivery timeline? How many laptops per minute one would manufacture to meet the delivery timeline of two months after award of the contract? Do they have existing inventory of exactly same specs? b) Bidders would like the government to test the solution: Is there a specific procedure that government(MOE) will use to test the offered solution in real situation before paying so much money? I think that it's important to get the laptop, software and content piloted in real schools/situation before we spend 14.7 Billion Ksh tax payer money. Why is this step skipped? Is it not important? I also read an article that government refused to give benefit to the youth under this transaction claiming that it's an international tender. Members? Thoughts? Ray Keller On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com>wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHjrghroGiU#at=40
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I would like to second the thoughts of Ray here. With due credit to the people who crafted the whole process, I seriously hope there were no steps missed or any willful blindness . This is a very expensive project and such mistakes can be detrimental. Training of teachers must be thoroughly conducted - not only use of computers but content design and development for digital instruction, management of blended learning, hardware maintenance, etc. with out leaving out the change management part. I foresee chaos on the first day of computer use in class pivoted by the excitement of the teacher and the students alike. I am not sure if std 1 or primary shool teachers receive any IT training in college. Maybe this should be a mandatory requirement in syllabi. Just my thoughts. Kipkirui. Digital Links Tanzania. Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android
Hi http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate+News/Kindles+replace+textbooks+... Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: Ray Keller <raykeller8@gmail.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Saturday, 17 August 2013, 20:07 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Laptop project: Pre-bid Conference http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/ktn/video/watch/2000068926/-government-sets-t... This video talks about three points: a) Bidders want to extend the timeline: Why would government like to extend the timeline? Will they still meet the delivery timeline? How many laptops per minute one would manufacture to meet the delivery timeline of two months after award of the contract? Do they have existing inventory of exactly same specs? b) Bidders would like the government to test the solution: Is there a specific procedure that government(MOE) will use to test the offered solution in real situation before paying so much money? I think that it's important to get the laptop, software and content piloted in real schools/situation before we spend 14.7 Billion Ksh tax payer money. Why is this step skipped? Is it not important? I also read an article that government refused to give benefit to the youth under this transaction claiming that it's an international tender. Members? Thoughts? Ray Keller On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com> wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHjrghroGiU#at=40
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One can only wish that they would go further down the Kindle road instead of laptops. Kindles are extremely durable, very simple, have multi-week battery life and are cheaper than laptops ($200). Plus, they focus on the main problem - access to high quality, ad-free educational content. There are still deficiencies like the fact that children can't use a Kindle for writing, but writing can be done with pen & paper like virtually everybody else on this list used in primary school. -- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: https://angel.co/kili-io Musings: https://twitter.com/varud About Adam: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 3:08 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate+News/Kindles+replace+textbooks+...
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
------------------------------ *From:* Ray Keller <raykeller8@gmail.com> *To:* robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Saturday, 17 August 2013, 20:07 *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Laptop project: Pre-bid Conference
http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/ktn/video/watch/2000068926/-government-sets-t...
This video talks about three points: a) Bidders want to extend the timeline: Why would government like to extend the timeline? Will they still meet the delivery timeline? How many laptops per minute one would manufacture to meet the delivery timeline of two months after award of the contract? Do they have existing inventory of exactly same specs? b) Bidders would like the government to test the solution: Is there a specific procedure that government(MOE) will use to test the offered solution in real situation before paying so much money? I think that it's important to get the laptop, software and content piloted in real schools/situation before we spend 14.7 Billion Ksh tax payer money. Why is this step skipped? Is it not important? I also read an article that government refused to give benefit to the youth under this transaction claiming that it's an international tender. Members? Thoughts? Ray Keller
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com>wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHjrghroGiU#at=40
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I am also in the Kindle camp. First of all provide digital copies of all those text books from the publishers and load them ontu those gadgets. It is disheartening to watch kids in the morning deforming their backs carrying 20 text books that are less than 20mb in content. Then they can have exercise books to scribble their hearts away but the course material can remain in the tablets. On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
One can only wish that they would go further down the Kindle road instead of laptops. Kindles are extremely durable, very simple, have multi-week battery life and are cheaper than laptops ($200).
Plus, they focus on the main problem - access to high quality, ad-free educational content.
There are still deficiencies like the fact that children can't use a Kindle for writing, but writing can be done with pen & paper like virtually everybody else on this list used in primary school.
-- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: https://angel.co/kili-io Musings: https://twitter.com/varud About Adam: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 3:08 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
Hi
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate+News/Kindles+replace+textbooks+...
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
------------------------------ *From:* Ray Keller <raykeller8@gmail.com> *To:* robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Saturday, 17 August 2013, 20:07 *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Laptop project: Pre-bid Conference
http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/ktn/video/watch/2000068926/-government-sets-t...
This video talks about three points: a) Bidders want to extend the timeline: Why would government like to extend the timeline? Will they still meet the delivery timeline? How many laptops per minute one would manufacture to meet the delivery timeline of two months after award of the contract? Do they have existing inventory of exactly same specs? b) Bidders would like the government to test the solution: Is there a specific procedure that government(MOE) will use to test the offered solution in real situation before paying so much money? I think that it's important to get the laptop, software and content piloted in real schools/situation before we spend 14.7 Billion Ksh tax payer money. Why is this step skipped? Is it not important? I also read an article that government refused to give benefit to the youth under this transaction claiming that it's an international tender. Members? Thoughts? Ray Keller
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com>wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHjrghroGiU#at=40
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Does that make the parents foot the cost of the eBooks or is the govt gonna take care of that? Oh, and with that I can see the death of the Printing Press (for the Book publishers) beckoning! They should start thinking e-Publishing... On 19 August 2013 16:02, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I am also in the Kindle camp. First of all provide digital copies of all those text books from the publishers and load them ontu those gadgets. It is disheartening to watch kids in the morning deforming their backs carrying 20 text books that are less than 20mb in content. Then they can have exercise books to scribble their hearts away but the course material can remain in the tablets.
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
One can only wish that they would go further down the Kindle road instead of laptops. Kindles are extremely durable, very simple, have multi-week battery life and are cheaper than laptops ($200).
Plus, they focus on the main problem - access to high quality, ad-free educational content.
There are still deficiencies like the fact that children can't use a Kindle for writing, but writing can be done with pen & paper like virtually everybody else on this list used in primary school.
-- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: https://angel.co/kili-io Musings: https://twitter.com/varud About Adam: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 3:08 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
Hi
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate+News/Kindles+replace+textbooks+...
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
------------------------------ *From:* Ray Keller <raykeller8@gmail.com> *To:* robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Saturday, 17 August 2013, 20:07 *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Laptop project: Pre-bid Conference
http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/ktn/video/watch/2000068926/-government-sets-t...
This video talks about three points: a) Bidders want to extend the timeline: Why would government like to extend the timeline? Will they still meet the delivery timeline? How many laptops per minute one would manufacture to meet the delivery timeline of two months after award of the contract? Do they have existing inventory of exactly same specs? b) Bidders would like the government to test the solution: Is there a specific procedure that government(MOE) will use to test the offered solution in real situation before paying so much money? I think that it's important to get the laptop, software and content piloted in real schools/situation before we spend 14.7 Billion Ksh tax payer money. Why is this step skipped? Is it not important? I also read an article that government refused to give benefit to the youth under this transaction claiming that it's an international tender. Members? Thoughts? Ray Keller
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com>wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHjrghroGiU#at=40
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Does that make the parents foot the cost of the eBooks or is the govt gonna take care of that? Oh, and with that I can see the death of the Printing Press (for the Book publishers) beckoning! They should start thinking e-Publishing...
On 19 August 2013 16:02, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I am also in the Kindle camp. First of all provide digital copies of all those text books from the publishers and load them ontu those gadgets. It is disheartening to watch kids in the morning deforming their backs carrying 20 text books that are less than 20mb in content. Then they can have exercise books to scribble their hearts away but the course material can remain in the tablets.
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
One can only wish that they would go further down the Kindle road instead of laptops. Kindles are extremely durable, very simple, have multi-week battery life and are cheaper than laptops ($200).
Plus, they focus on the main problem - access to high quality, ad-free educational content.
There are still deficiencies like the fact that children can't use a Kindle for writing, but writing can be done with pen & paper like virtually everybody else on this list used in primary school.
-- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: https://angel.co/kili-io Musings: https://twitter.com/varud About Adam: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 3:08 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
Hi
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate+News/Kindles+replace+textbooks+...
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
------------------------------ *From:* Ray Keller <raykeller8@gmail.com> *To:* robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Saturday, 17 August 2013, 20:07 *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Laptop project: Pre-bid Conference
http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/ktn/video/watch/2000068926/-government-sets-t...
This video talks about three points: a) Bidders want to extend the timeline: Why would government like to extend the timeline? Will they still meet the delivery timeline? How many laptops per minute one would manufacture to meet the delivery timeline of two months after award of the contract? Do they have existing inventory of exactly same specs? b) Bidders would like the government to test the solution: Is there a specific procedure that government(MOE) will use to test the offered solution in real situation before paying so much money? I think that it's important to get the laptop, software and content piloted in real schools/situation before we spend 14.7 Billion Ksh tax payer money. Why is this step skipped? Is it not important? I also read an article that government refused to give benefit to the youth under this transaction claiming that it's an international tender. Members? Thoughts? Ray Keller
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com>wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHjrghroGiU#at=40
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Is the profit in the paper or the content? more people reading our content would be a good thing for a publisher no? if we take out the cost of printing paper and shipping it to the students, then what is the actual cost of a 500 bob textbook that is fully digital? if a parent was asked to pay 300 bob for a years worth of text books and have the Gutenberg collection thrown into the gadgets, wouldn't the kids have more than they need to rekindle a reading culture(for those with interest in reading anyway) and I believe most parents who have educated before would go for this. On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
If a publisher hasn't started digital publishing by now, it's too late.
-- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: https://angel.co/kili-io Musings: https://twitter.com/varud About Adam: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Does that make the parents foot the cost of the eBooks or is the govt gonna take care of that? Oh, and with that I can see the death of the Printing Press (for the Book publishers) beckoning! They should start thinking e-Publishing...
On 19 August 2013 16:02, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I am also in the Kindle camp. First of all provide digital copies of all those text books from the publishers and load them ontu those gadgets. It is disheartening to watch kids in the morning deforming their backs carrying 20 text books that are less than 20mb in content. Then they can have exercise books to scribble their hearts away but the course material can remain in the tablets.
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
One can only wish that they would go further down the Kindle road instead of laptops. Kindles are extremely durable, very simple, have multi-week battery life and are cheaper than laptops ($200).
Plus, they focus on the main problem - access to high quality, ad-free educational content.
There are still deficiencies like the fact that children can't use a Kindle for writing, but writing can be done with pen & paper like virtually everybody else on this list used in primary school.
-- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: https://angel.co/kili-io Musings: https://twitter.com/varud About Adam: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 3:08 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
Hi
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate+News/Kindles+replace+textbooks+...
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
------------------------------ *From:* Ray Keller <raykeller8@gmail.com> *To:* robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Saturday, 17 August 2013, 20:07 *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Laptop project: Pre-bid Conference
http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/ktn/video/watch/2000068926/-government-sets-t...
This video talks about three points: a) Bidders want to extend the timeline: Why would government like to extend the timeline? Will they still meet the delivery timeline? How many laptops per minute one would manufacture to meet the delivery timeline of two months after award of the contract? Do they have existing inventory of exactly same specs? b) Bidders would like the government to test the solution: Is there a specific procedure that government(MOE) will use to test the offered solution in real situation before paying so much money? I think that it's important to get the laptop, software and content piloted in real schools/situation before we spend 14.7 Billion Ksh tax payer money. Why is this step skipped? Is it not important? I also read an article that government refused to give benefit to the youth under this transaction claiming that it's an international tender. Members? Thoughts? Ray Keller
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com
wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHjrghroGiU#at=40
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Adam, Too late? Mayb not too late. There is still a huge opportunity. Kind Regards, From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko=bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Adam Nelson Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 4:54 PM To: bkioko@bernsoft.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Laptop project: Pre-bid Conference - who is fooling whom If a publisher hasn't started digital publishing by now, it's too late. -- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: https://angel.co/kili-io Musings: https://twitter.com/varud About Adam: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: Does that make the parents foot the cost of the eBooks or is the govt gonna take care of that? Oh, and with that I can see the death of the Printing Press (for the Book publishers) beckoning! They should start thinking e-Publishing... On 19 August 2013 16:02, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote: I am also in the Kindle camp. First of all provide digital copies of all those text books from the publishers and load them ontu those gadgets. It is disheartening to watch kids in the morning deforming their backs carrying 20 text books that are less than 20mb in content. Then they can have exercise books to scribble their hearts away but the course material can remain in the tablets. On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote: One can only wish that they would go further down the Kindle road instead of laptops. Kindles are extremely durable, very simple, have multi-week battery life and are cheaper than laptops ($200). Plus, they focus on the main problem - access to high quality, ad-free educational content. There are still deficiencies like the fact that children can't use a Kindle for writing, but writing can be done with pen & paper like virtually everybody else on this list used in primary school. -- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: https://angel.co/kili-io Musings: https://twitter.com/varud About Adam: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 3:08 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: Hi http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate+News/Kindles+replace+textbooks+ in+Kisumu+school/-/539550/1958602/-/lmib98z/-/index.html Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225 <tel:%2B254722511225> , +254202010696 <tel:%2B254202010696> _____ From: Ray Keller <raykeller8@gmail.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Saturday, 17 August 2013, 20:07 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Laptop project: Pre-bid Conference http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/ktn/video/watch/2000068926/-government-sets-t ough-deadlines-for-bidders This video talks about three points: a) Bidders want to extend the timeline: Why would government like to extend the timeline? Will they still meet the delivery timeline? How many laptops per minute one would manufacture to meet the delivery timeline of two months after award of the contract? Do they have existing inventory of exactly same specs? b) Bidders would like the government to test the solution: Is there a specific procedure that government(MOE) will use to test the offered solution in real situation before paying so much money? I think that it's important to get the laptop, software and content piloted in real schools/situation before we spend 14.7 Billion Ksh tax payer money. Why is this step skipped? Is it not important? I also read an article that government refused to give benefit to the youth under this transaction claiming that it's an international tender. Members? Thoughts? Ray Keller On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com> wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHjrghroGiU#at=40 _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/raykeller8%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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participants (7)
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Adam Nelson -
Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Interactive Limited] -
Japheth kemboi -
Mark Mwangi -
Odhiambo Washington -
Ray Keller -
robert yawe