Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
Lucy, If you are online, kindly address the sentiments from listers on the summit. I believe there is a general feeling that the broader ICT discussion that needs to be the agenda for the summit, could take a "back seat", as your interim list of invitees who seem to be mostly MNC's compete fiercely to market themselves and their solutions and carry out aggressive lobbying at the same time to sway policy that works in their favor. It perhaps would be advisable for the Board to ensure a balanced participation in such forums in future, so that others who do not have "vested" interests can keep the debate focussed and balanced. It would also ensure that eskewed policy is not a "by-product" or "end product" of these important meetings. That is why discussants here are interested, and request that you make arrangements that would transmit live proceedings from the summit at Leisure Lodge, possibly via an internet twitter feed, or you can organise for live "call ins". Participants, can tune in and contribute widely. The summit discussions/reports, and action plans can be availed online. Are there such plans afoot..? Harry _____ From: Emmanuel Khisa [mailto:Emmanuel.khisa@kadet.co.ke] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 12:29 PM To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: RE: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? Harry (Not Hare), I asked the same question. Still waiting for a response, who are the invitees for this very important meeting of minds? And what is the Criterion? Regards From: kictanet-bounces+emmanuel.khisa=kadet.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+emmanuel.khisa=kadet.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Harry Delano Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 10:11 AM To: emmanuel.khisa@kadet.co.ke Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? Thanks Solomon, and Wals, - point taken.. And while at it;- "The connected Government summit of 2010" announcement, as released by Lucy of ICT Board on Wed. Listers, whats' your take..? It's all the way in Mombasa - at Leisure Lodge, where I do not think alot of people have been invited to take part. Is there any way policy discussants would be able to follow the proceedings from there or in a way participate, as most of the ICT practitioners I see on the roll seem to be multinationals (MNC's)..? Once again, I suppose it could be an opportunity to impress on those up there, what the real stakeholders want to see put in place. Harry.. _____ From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Solomon Mburu Kamau Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 9:11 AM To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? On 26 March 2010 08:54, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote: Harry (not the Hare ;-) As Jesus once said, let those who have ears, hear... Even in 'coded messages' that Jesus gave, He would later explain to His disciples and other interested parties. On another level, I think the link provided by Walu gives an insight on what ICT Board is all about. Methinks we should get to Bw. Kukubo to further explain to us on ICT Board is exactly!!! walu. nb: its a coded message but am sure it is quite clear to those who must take action to interven. --- On Thu, 3/25/10, Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> wrote: From: Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> Subject: RE: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? To: "'Walubengo J'" <jwalu@yahoo.com> Cc: "'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 2:19 PM Walu, Could you please "interpret", I think we lost you somewhere along the way.... It seems some kind of a "mishmash" Harry _____ From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry <mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bharry> =comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Walubengo J Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 11:39 AM To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? Yawe, Google brought me the official answer @ http://www.ict.go.ke/index.php/theboard/our-mandate-a-objectives But I could add my own "unofficial" perspective/personal opinion which is that the ICT Board could be the Ministry of Information implementing agent for ICT Strategies/Projects/Activities. This could have been occasioned by the e-Government Secretariate and GITS (Government Info Technology Services) cold-war and power games that may have compromised on each others ability to deliver on technology enabled services for Government. walu. --- On Thu, 3/25/10, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: From: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 11:01 AM Who is ICT Board and what exactly is their mandate? Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: jwalu@yahoo.com Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: solo.mburu@gmail.com Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/solo.mburu%40gmail.com -- Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041 Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill! 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Harry You make a good point. But again, we have different forums for different people with different interests and our stakeholders cut across to every citizen. This just happens to be about government and private sector practitioners. May I suggest that we start a discussion on shared services and government and private sector PPPs and best practices. The ICT Board has just concluded a contract with firm that won a tender to develop shared services in government. We have also received some further grant funds through fundraising we do to extend this to local government. As an example when the city council of Nairobi or indeed Mombasa can run SAP or Oracle, People Soft (just as examples) for it core financialls, HR workflow and the IT departments have CIOs driving IT, citizens will see greater value and local providers of these useful services will also benefit. Indeed this is the vision. This discussion on this list has been clouded by two things: - Mombasa. which is chosen because it is a lovely place for senior people to spend time uninterrupted. I am reminded here of how we sell Kenya. as an example in attracting Nethope to host their global summit here, I did mention the excellent safaris, the variety of restaurants and Mombasa as part of the appeal. Nethope members did also visit local communities in Kajiado and speak to techies at JKUAT. part of what participants will see is a telepresence (high end video conferencing) pilot implementation linking Mombasa and Nairobi courts, in Mombasa's north coast. - Stakeholder participation. This is a closed event, but we shall provide tools for people to follow through twitter, Facebook, our website, sponsor websites, youtube postings and some media houses at the event will provide dissemination. we shall record the entire summit proceeding. I have just asked my team to post the report from the last conference onto our website www.ict.go.ke. The key success of last year's conference is the fact that we have now commenced on the road to government shared services. Anyone who understands the IT and government space well will confirm that this is a big step. Asante Paul Kukubo Chief Executive Officer, Kenya ICT Board PO Box 27150 - 00100 Nairobi, Kenya 12th Floor, Teleposta Towers Koinange Street Tel +254 20 2089061, +254 20 2211960 Fax: +254 20 2211962 website: www.ict.go.ke local content project: www.tandaa.co.ke, www.facebook.com/tandaakenya twitter:@tandaaKENYA BPO Project: www. doitinkenya.co.ke Digital Villages Project: www.pasha.co.ke personal contacts _______________ Cell: + 254 735 180001 skype: kukubopaul googletalk: pkukubo personal blog: www.paulkukubo.co.ke personal twitter: @pkukubo ____________________ Vision: Kenya becomes a top ten global ICT hub Mission: To champion and actively enable Kenya to adopt and exploit ICT, through promotion of partnerships, investments and infrastructure growth for socio economic enrichment On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> wrote:
Lucy,
If you are online, kindly address the sentiments from listers on the summit.
I believe there is a general feeling that the broader ICT discussion that needs to be the agenda for the summit, could take a "back seat", as your interim list of invitees who seem to be mostly MNC's compete fiercely to market themselves and their solutions and carry out aggressive lobbying at the same time to sway policy that works in their favor. It perhaps would be advisable for the Board to ensure a balanced participation in such forums in future, so that others who do not have "vested" interests can keep the debate focussed and balanced. It would also ensure that eskewed policy is not a "by-product" or "end product" of these important meetings.
That is why discussants here are interested, and request that you make arrangements that would transmit live proceedings from the summit at Leisure Lodge, possibly via an internet twitter feed, or you can organise for live "call ins". Participants, can tune in and contribute widely. The summit discussions/reports, and action plans can be availed online.
Are there such plans afoot..?
Harry ------------------------------ *From:* Emmanuel Khisa [mailto:Emmanuel.khisa@kadet.co.ke] *Sent:* Friday, March 26, 2010 12:29 PM
*To:* harry@comtelsys.co.ke *Cc:* 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' *Subject:* RE: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
Harry (Not Hare),
I asked the same question. Still waiting for a response, who are the invitees for this very important meeting of minds? And what is the Criterion?
Regards
*From:* kictanet-bounces+emmanuel.khisa=kadet.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke[mailto: kictanet-bounces+emmanuel.khisa <kictanet-bounces%2Bemmanuel.khisa>= kadet.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Harry Delano *Sent:* Friday, March 26, 2010 10:11 AM *To:* emmanuel.khisa@kadet.co.ke *Cc:* 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
Thanks Solomon, and Wals, - point taken..
And while at it;- *"The connected Government summit of 2010"*announcement, as released by Lucy of ICT Board on Wed.
Listers, whats' your take..? It's all the way in Mombasa - at Leisure Lodge, where I do not think alot of people have been invited
to take part. Is there any way policy discussants would be able to follow the proceedings from there or in a way participate, as
most of the ICT practitioners I see on the roll seem to be multinationals (MNC's)..?
Once again, I suppose it could be an opportunity to impress on those up there, what the real stakeholders want to see put in place.
Harry..
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*From:* kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke[mailto: kictanet-bounces+harry <kictanet-bounces%2Bharry>=comtelsys.co.ke@ lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Solomon Mburu Kamau *Sent:* Friday, March 26, 2010 9:11 AM *To:* harry@comtelsys.co.ke *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
On 26 March 2010 08:54, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Harry (not the Hare ;-)
As Jesus once said, let those who have ears, hear...
Even in 'coded messages' that Jesus gave, He would later explain to His disciples and other interested parties.
On another level, I think the link provided by Walu gives an insight on what ICT Board is all about. Methinks we should get to Bw. Kukubo to further explain to us on ICT Board is exactly!!!
walu. nb: its a coded message but am sure it is quite clear to those who must take action to interven.
--- On *Thu, 3/25/10, Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke>* wrote:
From: Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> Subject: RE: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? To: "'Walubengo J'" <jwalu@yahoo.com>
Cc: "'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 2:19 PM
Walu,
Could you please "interpret", I think we lost you somewhere along the way.... It seems some kind of a "mishmash"
Harry
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*From:* kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke[mailto: kictanet-bounces+harry <kictanet-bounces%2Bharry>=comtelsys.co.ke@ lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Walubengo J
*Sent:* Thursday, March 25, 2010 11:39 AM *To:* harry@comtelsys.co.ke *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
Yawe,
Google brought me the official answer @ http://www.ict.go.ke/index.php/theboard/our-mandate-a-objectives
But I could add my own "unofficial" perspective/personal opinion which is that the ICT Board could be the Ministry of Information implementing agent for ICT Strategies/Projects/Activities. This could have been occasioned by the e-Government Secretariate and GITS (Government Info Technology Services) cold-war and power games that may have compromised on each others ability to deliver on technology enabled services for Government.
walu.
--- On *Thu, 3/25/10, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>* wrote:
From: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 11:01 AM
Who is ICT Board and what exactly is their mandate?
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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Dear Paul, Thanks alot for your invaluable feedback. It sheds light, and we do appreciate. Let's avail as much info, as we can on "goings on", and engage stakeholders far and wide so that a crucial constituency does not get left out. At best it might seem an all "Exclusive affair", or some kind of a "Members only" club - all these well meaning forums... We look forward to following the events, on the tools you have mentioned.. Regards, Harry _____ From: Paul Kukubo [mailto:pkukubo@ict.go.ke] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 2:27 PM To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions; ke users Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? Harry You make a good point. But again, we have different forums for different people with different interests and our stakeholders cut across to every citizen. This just happens to be about government and private sector practitioners. May I suggest that we start a discussion on shared services and government and private sector PPPs and best practices. The ICT Board has just concluded a contract with firm that won a tender to develop shared services in government. We have also received some further grant funds through fundraising we do to extend this to local government. As an example when the city council of Nairobi or indeed Mombasa can run SAP or Oracle, People Soft (just as examples) for it core financialls, HR workflow and the IT departments have CIOs driving IT, citizens will see greater value and local providers of these useful services will also benefit. Indeed this is the vision. This discussion on this list has been clouded by two things: * Mombasa. which is chosen because it is a lovely place for senior people to spend time uninterrupted. I am reminded here of how we sell Kenya. as an example in attracting Nethope to host their global summit here, I did mention the excellent safaris, the variety of restaurants and Mombasa as part of the appeal. Nethope members did also visit local communities in Kajiado and speak to techies at JKUAT. part of what participants will see is a telepresence (high end video conferencing) pilot implementation linking Mombasa and Nairobi courts, in Mombasa's north coast. * Stakeholder participation. This is a closed event, but we shall provide tools for people to follow through twitter, Facebook, our website, sponsor websites, youtube postings and some media houses at the event will provide dissemination. we shall record the entire summit proceeding. I have just asked my team to post the report from the last conference onto our website www.ict.go.ke. The key success of last year's conference is the fact that we have now commenced on the road to government shared services. Anyone who understands the IT and government space well will confirm that this is a big step. Asante Paul Kukubo Chief Executive Officer, Kenya ICT Board PO Box 27150 - 00100 Nairobi, Kenya 12th Floor, Teleposta Towers Koinange Street Tel +254 20 2089061, +254 20 2211960 Fax: +254 20 2211962 website: www.ict.go.ke local content project: www.tandaa.co.ke, www.facebook.com/tandaakenya twitter:@tandaaKENYA BPO Project: www. doitinkenya.co.ke Digital Villages Project: www.pasha.co.ke personal contacts _______________ Cell: + 254 735 180001 skype: kukubopaul googletalk: pkukubo personal blog: www.paulkukubo.co.ke personal twitter: @pkukubo ____________________ Vision: Kenya becomes a top ten global ICT hub Mission: To champion and actively enable Kenya to adopt and exploit ICT, through promotion of partnerships, investments and infrastructure growth for socio economic enrichment On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> wrote: Lucy, If you are online, kindly address the sentiments from listers on the summit. I believe there is a general feeling that the broader ICT discussion that needs to be the agenda for the summit, could take a "back seat", as your interim list of invitees who seem to be mostly MNC's compete fiercely to market themselves and their solutions and carry out aggressive lobbying at the same time to sway policy that works in their favor. It perhaps would be advisable for the Board to ensure a balanced participation in such forums in future, so that others who do not have "vested" interests can keep the debate focussed and balanced. It would also ensure that eskewed policy is not a "by-product" or "end product" of these important meetings. That is why discussants here are interested, and request that you make arrangements that would transmit live proceedings from the summit at Leisure Lodge, possibly via an internet twitter feed, or you can organise for live "call ins". Participants, can tune in and contribute widely. The summit discussions/reports, and action plans can be availed online. Are there such plans afoot..? Harry _____ From: Emmanuel Khisa [mailto:Emmanuel.khisa@kadet.co.ke] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 12:29 PM To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: RE: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? Harry (Not Hare), I asked the same question. Still waiting for a response, who are the invitees for this very important meeting of minds? And what is the Criterion? Regards From: kictanet-bounces+emmanuel.khisa=kadet.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+emmanuel.khisa <mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bemmanuel.khisa> =kadet.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Harry Delano Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 10:11 AM To: emmanuel.khisa@kadet.co.ke Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? Thanks Solomon, and Wals, - point taken.. And while at it;- "The connected Government summit of 2010" announcement, as released by Lucy of ICT Board on Wed. Listers, whats' your take..? It's all the way in Mombasa - at Leisure Lodge, where I do not think alot of people have been invited to take part. Is there any way policy discussants would be able to follow the proceedings from there or in a way participate, as most of the ICT practitioners I see on the roll seem to be multinationals (MNC's)..? Once again, I suppose it could be an opportunity to impress on those up there, what the real stakeholders want to see put in place. Harry.. _____ From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry <mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bharry> =comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Solomon Mburu Kamau Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 9:11 AM To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? On 26 March 2010 08:54, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote: Harry (not the Hare ;-) As Jesus once said, let those who have ears, hear... Even in 'coded messages' that Jesus gave, He would later explain to His disciples and other interested parties. On another level, I think the link provided by Walu gives an insight on what ICT Board is all about. Methinks we should get to Bw. Kukubo to further explain to us on ICT Board is exactly!!! walu. nb: its a coded message but am sure it is quite clear to those who must take action to interven. --- On Thu, 3/25/10, Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> wrote: From: Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> Subject: RE: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? To: "'Walubengo J'" <jwalu@yahoo.com> Cc: "'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 2:19 PM Walu, Could you please "interpret", I think we lost you somewhere along the way.... It seems some kind of a "mishmash" Harry _____ From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry <mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bharry> =comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Walubengo J Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 11:39 AM To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? Yawe, Google brought me the official answer @ http://www.ict.go.ke/index.php/theboard/our-mandate-a-objectives But I could add my own "unofficial" perspective/personal opinion which is that the ICT Board could be the Ministry of Information implementing agent for ICT Strategies/Projects/Activities. This could have been occasioned by the e-Government Secretariate and GITS (Government Info Technology Services) cold-war and power games that may have compromised on each others ability to deliver on technology enabled services for Government. walu. --- On Thu, 3/25/10, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: From: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 11:01 AM Who is ICT Board and what exactly is their mandate? Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: jwalu@yahoo.com Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: solo.mburu@gmail.com Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/solo.mburu%40gmail.com -- Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041 Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill! 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Paul, This example of PPP is an important milestone in my opinion based on the need to make the society more responsive to the role of the govt in service provision. I do hope that the transcript for the meeting will be availed for those who cannot make it to Coast On 26/03/2010, Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> wrote:
Dear Paul,
Thanks alot for your invaluable feedback. It sheds light, and we do appreciate. Let's avail as much info, as we can on "goings on", and engage stakeholders far and wide so that a crucial constituency does not get left out.
At best it might seem an all "Exclusive affair", or some kind of a "Members only" club - all these well meaning forums...
We look forward to following the events, on the tools you have mentioned..
Regards, Harry
_____
From: Paul Kukubo [mailto:pkukubo@ict.go.ke] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 2:27 PM To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions; ke users Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
Harry
You make a good point. But again, we have different forums for different people with different interests and our stakeholders cut across to every citizen. This just happens to be about government and private sector practitioners.
May I suggest that we start a discussion on shared services and government and private sector PPPs and best practices. The ICT Board has just concluded a contract with firm that won a tender to develop shared services in government. We have also received some further grant funds through fundraising we do to extend this to local government. As an example when the city council of Nairobi or indeed Mombasa can run SAP or Oracle, People Soft (just as examples) for it core financialls, HR workflow and the IT departments have CIOs driving IT, citizens will see greater value and local providers of these useful services will also benefit. Indeed this is the vision.
This discussion on this list has been clouded by two things:
* Mombasa. which is chosen because it is a lovely place for senior people to spend time uninterrupted. I am reminded here of how we sell Kenya. as an example in attracting Nethope to host their global summit here, I did mention the excellent safaris, the variety of restaurants and Mombasa as part of the appeal. Nethope members did also visit local communities in Kajiado and speak to techies at JKUAT. part of what participants will see is a telepresence (high end video conferencing) pilot implementation linking Mombasa and Nairobi courts, in Mombasa's north coast.
* Stakeholder participation. This is a closed event, but we shall provide tools for people to follow through twitter, Facebook, our website, sponsor websites, youtube postings and some media houses at the event will provide dissemination. we shall record the entire summit proceeding.
I have just asked my team to post the report from the last conference onto our website www.ict.go.ke. The key success of last year's conference is the fact that we have now commenced on the road to government shared services. Anyone who understands the IT and government space well will confirm that this is a big step.
Asante
Paul Kukubo Chief Executive Officer, Kenya ICT Board PO Box 27150 - 00100 Nairobi, Kenya
12th Floor, Teleposta Towers Koinange Street
Tel +254 20 2089061, +254 20 2211960 Fax: +254 20 2211962 website: www.ict.go.ke local content project: www.tandaa.co.ke, www.facebook.com/tandaakenya twitter:@tandaaKENYA BPO Project: www. doitinkenya.co.ke Digital Villages Project: www.pasha.co.ke
personal contacts _______________
Cell: + 254 735 180001
skype: kukubopaul googletalk: pkukubo personal blog: www.paulkukubo.co.ke personal twitter: @pkukubo
____________________ Vision: Kenya becomes a top ten global ICT hub
Mission: To champion and actively enable Kenya to adopt and exploit ICT, through promotion of partnerships, investments and infrastructure growth for socio economic enrichment
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> wrote:
Lucy,
If you are online, kindly address the sentiments from listers on the summit.
I believe there is a general feeling that the broader ICT discussion that needs to be the agenda for the summit, could take a "back seat", as your interim list of invitees who seem to be mostly MNC's compete fiercely to market themselves and their solutions and carry out aggressive lobbying at the same time to sway policy that works in their favor. It perhaps would be advisable for the Board to ensure a balanced participation in such forums in future, so that others who do not have "vested" interests can keep the debate focussed and balanced. It would also ensure that eskewed policy is not a "by-product" or "end product" of these important meetings.
That is why discussants here are interested, and request that you make arrangements that would transmit live proceedings from the summit at Leisure Lodge, possibly via an internet twitter feed, or you can organise for live "call ins". Participants, can tune in and contribute widely. The summit discussions/reports, and action plans can be availed online.
Are there such plans afoot..?
Harry _____
From: Emmanuel Khisa [mailto:Emmanuel.khisa@kadet.co.ke] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 12:29 PM
To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'
Subject: RE: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
Harry (Not Hare),
I asked the same question. Still waiting for a response, who are the invitees for this very important meeting of minds? And what is the Criterion?
Regards
From: kictanet-bounces+emmanuel.khisa=kadet.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+emmanuel.khisa <mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bemmanuel.khisa> =kadet.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Harry Delano Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 10:11 AM To: emmanuel.khisa@kadet.co.ke Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
Thanks Solomon, and Wals, - point taken..
And while at it;- "The connected Government summit of 2010" announcement, as released by Lucy of ICT Board on Wed.
Listers, whats' your take..? It's all the way in Mombasa - at Leisure Lodge, where I do not think alot of people have been invited
to take part. Is there any way policy discussants would be able to follow the proceedings from there or in a way participate, as
most of the ICT practitioners I see on the roll seem to be multinationals (MNC's)..?
Once again, I suppose it could be an opportunity to impress on those up there, what the real stakeholders want to see put in place.
Harry..
_____
From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry <mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bharry> =comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Solomon Mburu Kamau Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 9:11 AM To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
On 26 March 2010 08:54, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Harry (not the Hare ;-)
As Jesus once said, let those who have ears, hear...
Even in 'coded messages' that Jesus gave, He would later explain to His disciples and other interested parties.
On another level, I think the link provided by Walu gives an insight on what ICT Board is all about. Methinks we should get to Bw. Kukubo to further explain to us on ICT Board is exactly!!!
walu. nb: its a coded message but am sure it is quite clear to those who must take action to interven.
--- On Thu, 3/25/10, Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> wrote:
From: Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> Subject: RE: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? To: "'Walubengo J'" <jwalu@yahoo.com>
Cc: "'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 2:19 PM
Walu,
Could you please "interpret", I think we lost you somewhere along the way.... It seems some kind of a "mishmash"
Harry
_____
From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry <mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bharry> =comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Walubengo J
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 11:39 AM To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
Yawe,
Google brought me the official answer @ http://www.ict.go.ke/index.php/theboard/our-mandate-a-objectives
But I could add my own "unofficial" perspective/personal opinion which is that the ICT Board could be the Ministry of Information implementing agent for ICT Strategies/Projects/Activities. This could have been occasioned by the e-Government Secretariate and GITS (Government Info Technology Services) cold-war and power games that may have compromised on each others ability to deliver on technology enabled services for Government.
walu.
--- On Thu, 3/25/10, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
From: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 11:01 AM
Who is ICT Board and what exactly is their mandate?
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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Hi, It seems my thread has been hijacked and the core issue assasinated, I ask again "Who is ICT Board?" Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: Solomon Mburu Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; ke users <ke-internetusers@bdix.net> Sent: Fri, 26 March, 2010 20:10:19 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? Paul, This example of PPP is an important milestone in my opinion based on the need to make the society more responsive to the role of the govt in service provision. I do hope that the transcript for the meeting will be availed for those who cannot make it to Coast On 26/03/2010, Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> wrote:
Dear Paul,
Thanks alot for your invaluable feedback. It sheds light, and we do appreciate. Let's avail as much info, as we can on "goings on", and engage stakeholders far and wide so that a crucial constituency does not get left out.
At best it might seem an all "Exclusive affair", or some kind of a "Members only" club - all these well meaning forums...
We look forward to following the events, on the tools you have mentioned..
Regards, Harry
_____
From: Paul Kukubo [mailto:pkukubo@ict.go.ke] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 2:27 PM To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions; ke users Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
Harry
You make a good point. But again, we have different forums for different people with different interests and our stakeholders cut across to every citizen. This just happens to be about government and private sector practitioners.
May I suggest that we start a discussion on shared services and government and private sector PPPs and best practices. The ICT Board has just concluded a contract with firm that won a tender to develop shared services in government. We have also received some further grant funds through fundraising we do to extend this to local government. As an example when the city council of Nairobi or indeed Mombasa can run SAP or Oracle, People Soft (just as examples) for it core financialls, HR workflow and the IT departments have CIOs driving IT, citizens will see greater value and local providers of these useful services will also benefit. Indeed this is the vision.
This discussion on this list has been clouded by two things:
* Mombasa. which is chosen because it is a lovely place for senior people to spend time uninterrupted. I am reminded here of how we sell Kenya. as an example in attracting Nethope to host their global summit here, I did mention the excellent safaris, the variety of restaurants and Mombasa as part of the appeal. Nethope members did also visit local communities in Kajiado and speak to techies at JKUAT. part of what participants will see is a telepresence (high end video conferencing) pilot implementation linking Mombasa and Nairobi courts, in Mombasa's north coast.
* Stakeholder participation. This is a closed event, but we shall provide tools for people to follow through twitter, Facebook, our website, sponsor websites, youtube postings and some media houses at the event will provide dissemination. we shall record the entire summit proceeding.
I have just asked my team to post the report from the last conference onto our website www.ict.go.ke. The key success of last year's conference is the fact that we have now commenced on the road to government shared services. Anyone who understands the IT and government space well will confirm that this is a big step.
Asante
Paul Kukubo Chief Executive Officer, Kenya ICT Board PO Box 27150 - 00100 Nairobi, Kenya
12th Floor, Teleposta Towers Koinange Street
Tel +254 20 2089061, +254 20 2211960 Fax: +254 20 2211962 website: www.ict.go.ke local content project: www.tandaa.co.ke, www.facebook.com/tandaakenya twitter:@tandaaKENYA BPO Project: www. doitinkenya.co.ke Digital Villages Project: www.pasha.co.ke
personal contacts _______________
Cell: + 254 735 180001
skype: kukubopaul googletalk: pkukubo personal blog: www.paulkukubo.co.ke personal twitter: @pkukubo
____________________ Vision: Kenya becomes a top ten global ICT hub
Mission: To champion and actively enable Kenya to adopt and exploit ICT, through promotion of partnerships, investments and infrastructure growth for socio economic enrichment
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> wrote:
Lucy,
If you are online, kindly address the sentiments from listers on the summit.
I believe there is a general feeling that the broader ICT discussion that needs to be the agenda for the summit, could take a "back seat", as your interim list of invitees who seem to be mostly MNC's compete fiercely to market themselves and their solutions and carry out aggressive lobbying at the same time to sway policy that works in their favor. It perhaps would be advisable for the Board to ensure a balanced participation in such forums in future, so that others who do not have "vested" interests can keep the debate focussed and balanced. It would also ensure that eskewed policy is not a "by-product" or "end product" of these important meetings.
That is why discussants here are interested, and request that you make arrangements that would transmit live proceedings from the summit at Leisure Lodge, possibly via an internet twitter feed, or you can organise for live "call ins". Participants, can tune in and contribute widely. The summit discussions/reports, and action plans can be availed online.
Are there such plans afoot..?
Harry _____
From: Emmanuel Khisa [mailto:Emmanuel.khisa@kadet.co.ke] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 12:29 PM
To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'
Subject: RE: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
Harry (Not Hare),
I asked the same question. Still waiting for a response, who are the invitees for this very important meeting of minds? And what is the Criterion?
Regards
From: kictanet-bounces+emmanuel.khisa=kadet.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+emmanuel.khisa <mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bemmanuel.khisa> =kadet.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Harry Delano Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 10:11 AM To: emmanuel.khisa@kadet.co.ke Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
Thanks Solomon, and Wals, - point taken..
And while at it;- "The connected Government summit of 2010" announcement, as released by Lucy of ICT Board on Wed.
Listers, whats' your take..? It's all the way in Mombasa - at Leisure Lodge, where I do not think alot of people have been invited
to take part. Is there any way policy discussants would be able to follow the proceedings from there or in a way participate, as
most of the ICT practitioners I see on the roll seem to be multinationals (MNC's)..?
Once again, I suppose it could be an opportunity to impress on those up there, what the real stakeholders want to see put in place.
Harry..
_____
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On 26 March 2010 08:54, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Harry (not the Hare ;-)
As Jesus once said, let those who have ears, hear...
Even in 'coded messages' that Jesus gave, He would later explain to His disciples and other interested parties.
On another level, I think the link provided by Walu gives an insight on what ICT Board is all about. Methinks we should get to Bw. Kukubo to further explain to us on ICT Board is exactly!!!
walu. nb: its a coded message but am sure it is quite clear to those who must take action to interven.
--- On Thu, 3/25/10, Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> wrote:
From: Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> Subject: RE: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? To: "'Walubengo J'" <jwalu@yahoo.com>
Cc: "'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 2:19 PM
Walu,
Could you please "interpret", I think we lost you somewhere along the way.... It seems some kind of a "mishmash"
Harry
_____
From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry <mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bharry> =comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Walubengo J
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 11:39 AM To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
Yawe,
Google brought me the official answer @ http://www.ict.go.ke/index.php/theboard/our-mandate-a-objectives
But I could add my own "unofficial" perspective/personal opinion which is that the ICT Board could be the Ministry of Information implementing agent for ICT Strategies/Projects/Activities. This could have been occasioned by the e-Government Secretariate and GITS (Government Info Technology Services) cold-war and power games that may have compromised on each others ability to deliver on technology enabled services for Government.
walu.
--- On Thu, 3/25/10, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
From: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 11:01 AM
Who is ICT Board and what exactly is their mandate?
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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Sounds like you need to know who sits on the board? There is no such info on their website and am sure it would be good to know. Evans Quoting robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>:
Hi,
It seems my thread has been hijacked and the core issue assasinated, I ask again "Who is ICT Board?"
Regards
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
________________________________ From: Solomon Mburu Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; ke users <ke-internetusers@bdix.net> Sent: Fri, 26 March, 2010 20:10:19 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
Paul, This example of PPP is an important milestone in my opinion based on the need to make the society more responsive to the role of the govt in service provision. I do hope that the transcript for the meeting will be availed for those who cannot make it to Coast
On 26/03/2010, Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> wrote:
Dear Paul,
Thanks alot for your invaluable feedback. It sheds light, and we do appreciate. Let's avail as much info, as we can on "goings on", and engage stakeholders far and wide so that a crucial constituency does not get left out.
At best it might seem an all "Exclusive affair", or some kind of a "Members only" club - all these well meaning forums...
We look forward to following the events, on the tools you have mentioned..
Regards, Harry
_____
From: Paul Kukubo [mailto:pkukubo@ict.go.ke] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 2:27 PM To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions; ke users Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
Harry
You make a good point. But again, we have different forums for different people with different interests and our stakeholders cut across to every citizen. This just happens to be about government and private sector practitioners.
May I suggest that we start a discussion on shared services and government and private sector PPPs and best practices. The ICT Board has just concluded a contract with firm that won a tender to develop shared services in government. We have also received some further grant funds through fundraising we do to extend this to local government. As an example when the city council of Nairobi or indeed Mombasa can run SAP or Oracle, People Soft (just as examples) for it core financialls, HR workflow and the IT departments have CIOs driving IT, citizens will see greater value and local providers of these useful services will also benefit. Indeed this is the vision.
This discussion on this list has been clouded by two things:
* Mombasa. which is chosen because it is a lovely place for senior people to spend time uninterrupted. I am reminded here of how we sell Kenya. as an example in attracting Nethope to host their global summit here, I did mention the excellent safaris, the variety of restaurants and Mombasa as part of the appeal. Nethope members did also visit local communities in Kajiado and speak to techies at JKUAT. part of what participants will see is a telepresence (high end video conferencing) pilot implementation linking Mombasa and Nairobi courts, in Mombasa's north coast.
* Stakeholder participation. This is a closed event, but we shall provide tools for people to follow through twitter, Facebook, our website, sponsor websites, youtube postings and some media houses at the event will provide dissemination. we shall record the entire summit proceeding.
I have just asked my team to post the report from the last conference onto our website www.ict.go.ke. The key success of last year's conference is the fact that we have now commenced on the road to government shared services. Anyone who understands the IT and government space well will confirm that this is a big step.
Asante
Paul Kukubo Chief Executive Officer, Kenya ICT Board PO Box 27150 - 00100 Nairobi, Kenya
12th Floor, Teleposta Towers Koinange Street
Tel +254 20 2089061, +254 20 2211960 Fax: +254 20 2211962 website: www.ict.go.ke local content project: www.tandaa.co.ke, www.facebook.com/tandaakenya twitter:@tandaaKENYA BPO Project: www. doitinkenya.co.ke Digital Villages Project: www.pasha.co.ke
personal contacts _______________
Cell: + 254 735 180001
skype: kukubopaul googletalk: pkukubo personal blog: www.paulkukubo.co.ke personal twitter: @pkukubo
____________________ Vision: Kenya becomes a top ten global ICT hub
Mission: To champion and actively enable Kenya to adopt and exploit ICT, through promotion of partnerships, investments and infrastructure growth for socio economic enrichment
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> wrote:
Lucy,
If you are online, kindly address the sentiments from listers on the summit.
I believe there is a general feeling that the broader ICT discussion that needs to be the agenda for the summit, could take a "back seat", as your interim list of invitees who seem to be mostly MNC's compete fiercely to market themselves and their solutions and carry out aggressive lobbying at the same time to sway policy that works in their favor. It perhaps would be advisable for the Board to ensure a balanced participation in such forums in future, so that others who do not have "vested" interests can keep the debate focussed and balanced. It would also ensure that eskewed policy is not a "by-product" or "end product" of these important meetings.
That is why discussants here are interested, and request that you make arrangements that would transmit live proceedings from the summit at Leisure Lodge, possibly via an internet twitter feed, or you can organise for live "call ins". Participants, can tune in and contribute widely. The summit discussions/reports, and action plans can be availed online.
Are there such plans afoot..?
Harry _____
From: Emmanuel Khisa [mailto:Emmanuel.khisa@kadet.co.ke] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 12:29 PM
To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'
Subject: RE: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
Harry (Not Hare),
I asked the same question. Still waiting for a response, who are the invitees for this very important meeting of minds? And what is the Criterion?
Regards
From: kictanet-bounces+emmanuel.khisa=kadet.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+emmanuel.khisa <mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bemmanuel.khisa> =kadet.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Harry Delano Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 10:11 AM To: emmanuel.khisa@kadet.co.ke Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
Thanks Solomon, and Wals, - point taken..
And while at it;- "The connected Government summit of 2010" announcement, as released by Lucy of ICT Board on Wed.
Listers, whats' your take..? It's all the way in Mombasa - at Leisure Lodge, where I do not think alot of people have been invited
to take part. Is there any way policy discussants would be able to follow the proceedings from there or in a way participate, as
most of the ICT practitioners I see on the roll seem to be multinationals (MNC's)..?
Once again, I suppose it could be an opportunity to impress on those up there, what the real stakeholders want to see put in place.
Harry..
_____
From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry <mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bharry> =comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Solomon Mburu Kamau Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 9:11 AM To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
On 26 March 2010 08:54, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Harry (not the Hare ;-)
As Jesus once said, let those who have ears, hear...
Even in 'coded messages' that Jesus gave, He would later explain to His disciples and other interested parties.
On another level, I think the link provided by Walu gives an insight on what ICT Board is all about. Methinks we should get to Bw. Kukubo to further explain to us on ICT Board is exactly!!!
walu. nb: its a coded message but am sure it is quite clear to those who must take action to interven.
--- On Thu, 3/25/10, Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> wrote:
From: Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> Subject: RE: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? To: "'Walubengo J'" <jwalu@yahoo.com>
Cc: "'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 2:19 PM
Walu,
Could you please "interpret", I think we lost you somewhere along the way.... It seems some kind of a "mishmash"
Harry
_____
From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry <mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bharry> =comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Walubengo J
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 11:39 AM To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
Yawe,
Google brought me the official answer @ http://www.ict.go.ke/index.php/theboard/our-mandate-a-objectives
But I could add my own "unofficial" perspective/personal opinion which is that the ICT Board could be the Ministry of Information implementing agent for ICT Strategies/Projects/Activities. This could have been occasioned by the e-Government Secretariate and GITS (Government Info Technology Services) cold-war and power games that may have compromised on each others ability to deliver on technology enabled services for Government.
walu.
--- On Thu, 3/25/10, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
From: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 11:01 AM
Who is ICT Board and what exactly is their mandate?
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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Its actually there. http://www.ict.go.ke/index.php/theboard/82-asia/149-from-bears-to-birds Maybe you need to be more direct and ask what you want to ask. Reading between the lines I think there is something you are getting at. Evans Quoting robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>:
Hi,
It seems my thread has been hijacked and the core issue assasinated, I ask again "Who is ICT Board?"
Regards
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
________________________________ From: Solomon Mburu Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; ke users <ke-internetusers@bdix.net> Sent: Fri, 26 March, 2010 20:10:19 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
Paul, This example of PPP is an important milestone in my opinion based on the need to make the society more responsive to the role of the govt in service provision. I do hope that the transcript for the meeting will be availed for those who cannot make it to Coast
On 26/03/2010, Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> wrote:
Dear Paul,
Thanks alot for your invaluable feedback. It sheds light, and we do appreciate. Let's avail as much info, as we can on "goings on", and engage stakeholders far and wide so that a crucial constituency does not get left out.
At best it might seem an all "Exclusive affair", or some kind of a "Members only" club - all these well meaning forums...
We look forward to following the events, on the tools you have mentioned..
Regards, Harry
_____
From: Paul Kukubo [mailto:pkukubo@ict.go.ke] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 2:27 PM To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions; ke users Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
Harry
You make a good point. But again, we have different forums for different people with different interests and our stakeholders cut across to every citizen. This just happens to be about government and private sector practitioners.
May I suggest that we start a discussion on shared services and government and private sector PPPs and best practices. The ICT Board has just concluded a contract with firm that won a tender to develop shared services in government. We have also received some further grant funds through fundraising we do to extend this to local government. As an example when the city council of Nairobi or indeed Mombasa can run SAP or Oracle, People Soft (just as examples) for it core financialls, HR workflow and the IT departments have CIOs driving IT, citizens will see greater value and local providers of these useful services will also benefit. Indeed this is the vision.
This discussion on this list has been clouded by two things:
* Mombasa. which is chosen because it is a lovely place for senior people to spend time uninterrupted. I am reminded here of how we sell Kenya. as an example in attracting Nethope to host their global summit here, I did mention the excellent safaris, the variety of restaurants and Mombasa as part of the appeal. Nethope members did also visit local communities in Kajiado and speak to techies at JKUAT. part of what participants will see is a telepresence (high end video conferencing) pilot implementation linking Mombasa and Nairobi courts, in Mombasa's north coast.
* Stakeholder participation. This is a closed event, but we shall provide tools for people to follow through twitter, Facebook, our website, sponsor websites, youtube postings and some media houses at the event will provide dissemination. we shall record the entire summit proceeding.
I have just asked my team to post the report from the last conference onto our website www.ict.go.ke. The key success of last year's conference is the fact that we have now commenced on the road to government shared services. Anyone who understands the IT and government space well will confirm that this is a big step.
Asante
Paul Kukubo Chief Executive Officer, Kenya ICT Board PO Box 27150 - 00100 Nairobi, Kenya
12th Floor, Teleposta Towers Koinange Street
Tel +254 20 2089061, +254 20 2211960 Fax: +254 20 2211962 website: www.ict.go.ke local content project: www.tandaa.co.ke, www.facebook.com/tandaakenya twitter:@tandaaKENYA BPO Project: www. doitinkenya.co.ke Digital Villages Project: www.pasha.co.ke
personal contacts _______________
Cell: + 254 735 180001
skype: kukubopaul googletalk: pkukubo personal blog: www.paulkukubo.co.ke personal twitter: @pkukubo
____________________ Vision: Kenya becomes a top ten global ICT hub
Mission: To champion and actively enable Kenya to adopt and exploit ICT, through promotion of partnerships, investments and infrastructure growth for socio economic enrichment
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> wrote:
Lucy,
If you are online, kindly address the sentiments from listers on the summit.
I believe there is a general feeling that the broader ICT discussion that needs to be the agenda for the summit, could take a "back seat", as your interim list of invitees who seem to be mostly MNC's compete fiercely to market themselves and their solutions and carry out aggressive lobbying at the same time to sway policy that works in their favor. It perhaps would be advisable for the Board to ensure a balanced participation in such forums in future, so that others who do not have "vested" interests can keep the debate focussed and balanced. It would also ensure that eskewed policy is not a "by-product" or "end product" of these important meetings.
That is why discussants here are interested, and request that you make arrangements that would transmit live proceedings from the summit at Leisure Lodge, possibly via an internet twitter feed, or you can organise for live "call ins". Participants, can tune in and contribute widely. The summit discussions/reports, and action plans can be availed online.
Are there such plans afoot..?
Harry _____
From: Emmanuel Khisa [mailto:Emmanuel.khisa@kadet.co.ke] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 12:29 PM
To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'
Subject: RE: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
Harry (Not Hare),
I asked the same question. Still waiting for a response, who are the invitees for this very important meeting of minds? And what is the Criterion?
Regards
From: kictanet-bounces+emmanuel.khisa=kadet.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+emmanuel.khisa <mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bemmanuel.khisa> =kadet.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Harry Delano Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 10:11 AM To: emmanuel.khisa@kadet.co.ke Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
Thanks Solomon, and Wals, - point taken..
And while at it;- "The connected Government summit of 2010" announcement, as released by Lucy of ICT Board on Wed.
Listers, whats' your take..? It's all the way in Mombasa - at Leisure Lodge, where I do not think alot of people have been invited
to take part. Is there any way policy discussants would be able to follow the proceedings from there or in a way participate, as
most of the ICT practitioners I see on the roll seem to be multinationals (MNC's)..?
Once again, I suppose it could be an opportunity to impress on those up there, what the real stakeholders want to see put in place.
Harry..
_____
From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry <mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bharry> =comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Solomon Mburu Kamau Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 9:11 AM To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
On 26 March 2010 08:54, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Harry (not the Hare ;-)
As Jesus once said, let those who have ears, hear...
Even in 'coded messages' that Jesus gave, He would later explain to His disciples and other interested parties.
On another level, I think the link provided by Walu gives an insight on what ICT Board is all about. Methinks we should get to Bw. Kukubo to further explain to us on ICT Board is exactly!!!
walu. nb: its a coded message but am sure it is quite clear to those who must take action to interven.
--- On Thu, 3/25/10, Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> wrote:
From: Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> Subject: RE: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? To: "'Walubengo J'" <jwalu@yahoo.com>
Cc: "'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 2:19 PM
Walu,
Could you please "interpret", I think we lost you somewhere along the way.... It seems some kind of a "mishmash"
Harry
_____
From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry <mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bharry> =comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Walubengo J
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 11:39 AM To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
Yawe,
Google brought me the official answer @ http://www.ict.go.ke/index.php/theboard/our-mandate-a-objectives
But I could add my own "unofficial" perspective/personal opinion which is that the ICT Board could be the Ministry of Information implementing agent for ICT Strategies/Projects/Activities. This could have been occasioned by the e-Government Secretariate and GITS (Government Info Technology Services) cold-war and power games that may have compromised on each others ability to deliver on technology enabled services for Government.
walu.
--- On Thu, 3/25/10, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
From: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 11:01 AM
Who is ICT Board and what exactly is their mandate?
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity!
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Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill!
AND
It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity!
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On 30/03/2010, ikua@lpakenya.org <ikua@lpakenya.org> wrote:
Its actually there. http://www.ict.go.ke/index.php/theboard/82-asia/149-from-bears-to-birds
Maybe you need to be more direct and ask what you want to ask. Reading between the lines I think there is something you are getting at. Evans
Are you asking for what exactly is the ICT Board and its mandated task? TOR perhaps? Modus operandi? Just as Evans has asked, a more direct question would make it easier to respond to your question. Mburu
Quoting robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>:
Hi,
It seems my thread has been hijacked and the core issue assasinated, I ask again "Who is ICT Board?"
Regards
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
________________________________ From: Solomon Mburu Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; ke users <ke-internetusers@bdix.net> Sent: Fri, 26 March, 2010 20:10:19 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
Paul, This example of PPP is an important milestone in my opinion based on the need to make the society more responsive to the role of the govt in service provision. I do hope that the transcript for the meeting will be availed for those who cannot make it to Coast
On 26/03/2010, Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> wrote:
Dear Paul,
Thanks alot for your invaluable feedback. It sheds light, and we do appreciate. Let's avail as much info, as we can on "goings on", and engage stakeholders far and wide so that a crucial constituency does not get left out.
At best it might seem an all "Exclusive affair", or some kind of a "Members only" club - all these well meaning forums...
We look forward to following the events, on the tools you have mentioned..
Regards, Harry
_____
From: Paul Kukubo [mailto:pkukubo@ict.go.ke] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 2:27 PM To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions; ke users Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
Harry
You make a good point. But again, we have different forums for different people with different interests and our stakeholders cut across to every citizen. This just happens to be about government and private sector practitioners.
May I suggest that we start a discussion on shared services and government and private sector PPPs and best practices. The ICT Board has just concluded a contract with firm that won a tender to develop shared services in government. We have also received some further grant funds through fundraising we do to extend this to local government. As an example when the city council of Nairobi or indeed Mombasa can run SAP or Oracle, People Soft (just as examples) for it core financialls, HR workflow and the IT departments have CIOs driving IT, citizens will see greater value and local providers of these useful services will also benefit. Indeed this is the vision.
This discussion on this list has been clouded by two things:
* Mombasa. which is chosen because it is a lovely place for senior people to spend time uninterrupted. I am reminded here of how we sell Kenya. as an example in attracting Nethope to host their global summit here, I did mention the excellent safaris, the variety of restaurants and Mombasa as part of the appeal. Nethope members did also visit local communities in Kajiado and speak to techies at JKUAT. part of what participants will see is a telepresence (high end video conferencing) pilot implementation linking Mombasa and Nairobi courts, in Mombasa's north coast.
* Stakeholder participation. This is a closed event, but we shall provide tools for people to follow through twitter, Facebook, our website, sponsor websites, youtube postings and some media houses at the event will provide dissemination. we shall record the entire summit proceeding.
I have just asked my team to post the report from the last conference onto our website www.ict.go.ke. The key success of last year's conference is the fact that we have now commenced on the road to government shared services. Anyone who understands the IT and government space well will confirm that this is a big step.
Asante
Paul Kukubo Chief Executive Officer, Kenya ICT Board PO Box 27150 - 00100 Nairobi, Kenya
12th Floor, Teleposta Towers Koinange Street
Tel +254 20 2089061, +254 20 2211960 Fax: +254 20 2211962 website: www.ict.go.ke local content project: www.tandaa.co.ke, www.facebook.com/tandaakenya twitter:@tandaaKENYA BPO Project: www. doitinkenya.co.ke Digital Villages Project: www.pasha.co.ke
personal contacts _______________
Cell: + 254 735 180001
skype: kukubopaul googletalk: pkukubo personal blog: www.paulkukubo.co.ke personal twitter: @pkukubo
____________________ Vision: Kenya becomes a top ten global ICT hub
Mission: To champion and actively enable Kenya to adopt and exploit ICT, through promotion of partnerships, investments and infrastructure growth for socio economic enrichment
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> wrote:
Lucy,
If you are online, kindly address the sentiments from listers on the summit.
I believe there is a general feeling that the broader ICT discussion that needs to be the agenda for the summit, could take a "back seat", as your interim list of invitees who seem to be mostly MNC's compete fiercely to market themselves and their solutions and carry out aggressive lobbying at the same time to sway policy that works in their favor. It perhaps would be advisable for the Board to ensure a balanced participation in such forums in future, so that others who do not have "vested" interests can keep the debate focussed and balanced. It would also ensure that eskewed policy is not a "by-product" or "end product" of these important meetings.
That is why discussants here are interested, and request that you make arrangements that would transmit live proceedings from the summit at Leisure Lodge, possibly via an internet twitter feed, or you can organise for live "call ins". Participants, can tune in and contribute widely. The summit discussions/reports, and action plans can be availed online.
Are there such plans afoot..?
Harry _____
From: Emmanuel Khisa [mailto:Emmanuel.khisa@kadet.co.ke] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 12:29 PM
To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'
Subject: RE: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
Harry (Not Hare),
I asked the same question. Still waiting for a response, who are the invitees for this very important meeting of minds? And what is the Criterion?
Regards
From: kictanet-bounces+emmanuel.khisa=kadet.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+emmanuel.khisa <mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bemmanuel.khisa> =kadet.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Harry Delano Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 10:11 AM To: emmanuel.khisa@kadet.co.ke Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
Thanks Solomon, and Wals, - point taken..
And while at it;- "The connected Government summit of 2010" announcement, as released by Lucy of ICT Board on Wed.
Listers, whats' your take..? It's all the way in Mombasa - at Leisure Lodge, where I do not think alot of people have been invited
to take part. Is there any way policy discussants would be able to follow the proceedings from there or in a way participate, as
most of the ICT practitioners I see on the roll seem to be multinationals (MNC's)..?
Once again, I suppose it could be an opportunity to impress on those up there, what the real stakeholders want to see put in place.
Harry..
_____
From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry <mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bharry> =comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Solomon Mburu Kamau Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 9:11 AM To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
On 26 March 2010 08:54, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Harry (not the Hare ;-)
As Jesus once said, let those who have ears, hear...
Even in 'coded messages' that Jesus gave, He would later explain to His disciples and other interested parties.
On another level, I think the link provided by Walu gives an insight on what ICT Board is all about. Methinks we should get to Bw. Kukubo to further explain to us on ICT Board is exactly!!!
walu. nb: its a coded message but am sure it is quite clear to those who must take action to interven.
--- On Thu, 3/25/10, Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> wrote:
From: Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> Subject: RE: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? To: "'Walubengo J'" <jwalu@yahoo.com>
Cc: "'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 2:19 PM
Walu,
Could you please "interpret", I think we lost you somewhere along the way.... It seems some kind of a "mishmash"
Harry
_____
From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry <mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bharry> =comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Walubengo J
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 11:39 AM To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
Yawe,
Google brought me the official answer @ http://www.ict.go.ke/index.php/theboard/our-mandate-a-objectives
But I could add my own "unofficial" perspective/personal opinion which is that the ICT Board could be the Ministry of Information implementing agent for ICT Strategies/Projects/Activities. This could have been occasioned by the e-Government Secretariate and GITS (Government Info Technology Services) cold-war and power games that may have compromised on each others ability to deliver on technology enabled services for Government.
walu.
--- On Thu, 3/25/10, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
From: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 11:01 AM
Who is ICT Board and what exactly is their mandate?
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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Listers, One thing I have seen under the sky on this forum is, pertinent questions /issues keep on being raised. However, they seem to hang somewhere suspended in middair. So therefore to reverse this trend of open ended cross-examination, and because we have to move forward - I suppose for each of the queries that cover considerable airtime on the forum need now to henceforth be forwarded to respective respondents - Hope secretariat can take up other case scenarios arising. Some of these issues are too pertinent to be ignored. And, so Bob, for your query, I suppose we have read from Lucy - The communication Manager of ICT Board (Copied) before, responding to ICT Board related queries (at least one that I raised last week) and am sure she will be in a position to respond sufficiently on this for the benefit of all. While at it, do we also have corporate communication managers or spokesmen/women from the ministry/CCK...? And their email addresses..? And the main service providers.. Let's seek to action a number of things we need to see done through appropriate mediums.. Regards, Harry -----Original Message----- From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Solomon Mburu Kamau Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 4:15 PM To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? Hijacked On 30/03/2010, ikua@lpakenya.org <ikua@lpakenya.org> wrote:
Its actually there. http://www.ict.go.ke/index.php/theboard/82-asia/149-from-bears-to-bird s
Maybe you need to be more direct and ask what you want to ask. Reading between the lines I think there is something you are getting at. Evans
Are you asking for what exactly is the ICT Board and its mandated task? TOR perhaps? Modus operandi? Just as Evans has asked, a more direct question would make it easier to respond to your question. Mburu
Quoting robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>:
Hi,
It seems my thread has been hijacked and the core issue assasinated, I ask again "Who is ICT Board?"
Regards
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
________________________________ From: Solomon Mburu Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; ke users <ke-internetusers@bdix.net> Sent: Fri, 26 March, 2010 20:10:19 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
Paul, This example of PPP is an important milestone in my opinion based on the need to make the society more responsive to the role of the govt in service provision. I do hope that the transcript for the meeting will be availed for those who cannot make it to Coast
On 26/03/2010, Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> wrote:
Dear Paul,
Thanks alot for your invaluable feedback. It sheds light, and we do appreciate. Let's avail as much info, as we can on "goings on", and engage stakeholders far and wide so that a crucial constituency does not get left out.
At best it might seem an all "Exclusive affair", or some kind of a "Members only" club - all these well meaning forums...
We look forward to following the events, on the tools you have mentioned..
Regards, Harry
_____
From: Paul Kukubo [mailto:pkukubo@ict.go.ke] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 2:27 PM To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions; ke users Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
Harry
You make a good point. But again, we have different forums for different people with different interests and our stakeholders cut across to every citizen. This just happens to be about government and private sector practitioners.
May I suggest that we start a discussion on shared services and government and private sector PPPs and best practices. The ICT Board has just concluded a contract with firm that won a tender to develop shared services in government. We have also received some further grant funds through fundraising we do to extend this to local government. As an example when the city council of Nairobi or indeed Mombasa can run SAP or Oracle, People Soft (just as examples) for it core financialls, HR workflow and the IT departments have CIOs driving IT, citizens will see greater value and local providers of these useful services will also benefit. Indeed this is the vision.
This discussion on this list has been clouded by two things:
* Mombasa. which is chosen because it is a lovely place for senior people to spend time uninterrupted. I am reminded here of how we sell Kenya. as an example in attracting Nethope to host their global summit here, I did mention the excellent safaris, the variety of restaurants and Mombasa as part of the appeal. Nethope members did also visit local communities in Kajiado and speak to techies at JKUAT. part of what participants will see is a telepresence (high end video conferencing) pilot implementation linking Mombasa and Nairobi courts, in Mombasa's north coast.
* Stakeholder participation. This is a closed event, but we shall provide tools for people to follow through twitter, Facebook, our website, sponsor websites, youtube postings and some media houses at the event will provide dissemination. we shall record the entire summit proceeding.
I have just asked my team to post the report from the last conference onto our website www.ict.go.ke. The key success of last year's conference is the fact that we have now commenced on the road to government shared services. Anyone who understands the IT and government space well will confirm that this is a big step.
Asante
Paul Kukubo Chief Executive Officer, Kenya ICT Board PO Box 27150 - 00100 Nairobi, Kenya
12th Floor, Teleposta Towers Koinange Street
Tel +254 20 2089061, +254 20 2211960 Fax: +254 20 2211962 website: www.ict.go.ke local content project: www.tandaa.co.ke, www.facebook.com/tandaakenya twitter:@tandaaKENYA BPO Project: www. doitinkenya.co.ke Digital Villages Project: www.pasha.co.ke
personal contacts _______________
Cell: + 254 735 180001
skype: kukubopaul googletalk: pkukubo personal blog: www.paulkukubo.co.ke personal twitter: @pkukubo
____________________ Vision: Kenya becomes a top ten global ICT hub
Mission: To champion and actively enable Kenya to adopt and exploit ICT, through promotion of partnerships, investments and infrastructure growth for socio economic enrichment
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> wrote:
Lucy,
If you are online, kindly address the sentiments from listers on the summit.
I believe there is a general feeling that the broader ICT discussion that needs to be the agenda for the summit, could take a "back seat", as your interim list of invitees who seem to be mostly MNC's compete fiercely to market themselves and their solutions and carry out aggressive lobbying at the same time to sway policy that works in their favor. It perhaps would be advisable for the Board to ensure a balanced participation in such forums in future, so that others who do not have "vested" interests can keep the debate focussed and balanced. It would also ensure that eskewed policy is not a "by-product" or "end product" of these important meetings.
That is why discussants here are interested, and request that you make arrangements that would transmit live proceedings from the summit at Leisure Lodge, possibly via an internet twitter feed, or you can organise for live "call ins". Participants, can tune in and contribute widely. The summit discussions/reports, and action plans can be availed online.
Are there such plans afoot..?
Harry _____
From: Emmanuel Khisa [mailto:Emmanuel.khisa@kadet.co.ke] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 12:29 PM
To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'
Subject: RE: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
Harry (Not Hare),
I asked the same question. Still waiting for a response, who are the invitees for this very important meeting of minds? And what is the Criterion?
Regards
From: kictanet-bounces+emmanuel.khisa=kadet.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+emmanuel.khisa <mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bemmanuel.khisa> =kadet.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Harry Delano Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 10:11 AM To: emmanuel.khisa@kadet.co.ke Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
Thanks Solomon, and Wals, - point taken..
And while at it;- "The connected Government summit of 2010" announcement, as released by Lucy of ICT Board on Wed.
Listers, whats' your take..? It's all the way in Mombasa - at Leisure Lodge, where I do not think alot of people have been invited
to take part. Is there any way policy discussants would be able to follow the proceedings from there or in a way participate, as
most of the ICT practitioners I see on the roll seem to be multinationals (MNC's)..?
Once again, I suppose it could be an opportunity to impress on those up there, what the real stakeholders want to see put in place.
Harry..
_____
From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry <mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bharry> =comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Solomon Mburu Kamau Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 9:11 AM To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
On 26 March 2010 08:54, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Harry (not the Hare ;-)
As Jesus once said, let those who have ears, hear...
Even in 'coded messages' that Jesus gave, He would later explain to His disciples and other interested parties.
On another level, I think the link provided by Walu gives an insight on what ICT Board is all about. Methinks we should get to Bw. Kukubo to further explain to us on ICT Board is exactly!!!
walu. nb: its a coded message but am sure it is quite clear to those who must take action to interven.
--- On Thu, 3/25/10, Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> wrote:
From: Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> Subject: RE: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? To: "'Walubengo J'" <jwalu@yahoo.com>
Cc: "'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 2:19 PM
Walu,
Could you please "interpret", I think we lost you somewhere along the way.... It seems some kind of a "mishmash"
Harry
_____
From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry <mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bharry> =comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Walubengo J
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 11:39 AM To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
Yawe,
Google brought me the official answer @ http://www.ict.go.ke/index.php/theboard/our-mandate-a-objectives
But I could add my own "unofficial" perspective/personal opinion which is that the ICT Board could be the Ministry of Information implementing agent for ICT Strategies/Projects/Activities. This could have been occasioned by the e-Government Secretariate and GITS (Government Info Technology Services) cold-war and power games that may have compromised on each others ability to deliver on technology enabled services for Government.
walu.
--- On Thu, 3/25/10, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
From: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 11:01 AM
Who is ICT Board and what exactly is their mandate?
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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Hi, Not who sits on the board but what is there mandate & who do they report to? Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: "ikua@lpakenya.org" <ikua@lpakenya.org> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Tue, 30 March, 2010 15:55:55 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? Hijacked Its actually there. http://www.ict.go.ke/index.php/theboard/82-asia/149-from-bears-to-birds Maybe you need to be more direct and ask what you want to ask. Reading between the lines I think there is something you are getting at. Evans Quoting robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>:
Hi,
It seems my thread has been hijacked and the core issue assasinated, I ask again "Who is ICT Board?"
Regards
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
________________________________ From: Solomon Mburu Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; ke users <ke-internetusers@bdix.net> Sent: Fri, 26 March, 2010 20:10:19 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
Paul, This example of PPP is an important milestone in my opinion based on the need to make the society more responsive to the role of the govt in service provision. I do hope that the transcript for the meeting will be availed for those who cannot make it to Coast
On 26/03/2010, Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> wrote:
Dear Paul,
Thanks alot for your invaluable feedback. It sheds light, and we do appreciate. Let's avail as much info, as we can on "goings on", and engage stakeholders far and wide so that a crucial constituency does not get left out.
At best it might seem an all "Exclusive affair", or some kind of a "Members only" club - all these well meaning forums...
We look forward to following the events, on the tools you have mentioned..
Regards, Harry
_____
From: Paul Kukubo [mailto:pkukubo@ict.go.ke] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 2:27 PM To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions; ke users Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
Harry
You make a good point. But again, we have different forums for different people with different interests and our stakeholders cut across to every citizen. This just happens to be about government and private sector practitioners.
May I suggest that we start a discussion on shared services and government and private sector PPPs and best practices. The ICT Board has just concluded a contract with firm that won a tender to develop shared services in government. We have also received some further grant funds through fundraising we do to extend this to local government. As an example when the city council of Nairobi or indeed Mombasa can run SAP or Oracle, People Soft (just as examples) for it core financialls, HR workflow and the IT departments have CIOs driving IT, citizens will see greater value and local providers of these useful services will also benefit. Indeed this is the vision.
This discussion on this list has been clouded by two things:
* Mombasa. which is chosen because it is a lovely place for senior people to spend time uninterrupted. I am reminded here of how we sell Kenya. as an example in attracting Nethope to host their global summit here, I did mention the excellent safaris, the variety of restaurants and Mombasa as part of the appeal. Nethope members did also visit local communities in Kajiado and speak to techies at JKUAT. part of what participants will see is a telepresence (high end video conferencing) pilot implementation linking Mombasa and Nairobi courts, in Mombasa's north coast.
* Stakeholder participation. This is a closed event, but we shall provide tools for people to follow through twitter, Facebook, our website, sponsor websites, youtube postings and some media houses at the event will provide dissemination. we shall record the entire summit proceeding.
I have just asked my team to post the report from the last conference onto our website www.ict.go.ke. The key success of last year's conference is the fact that we have now commenced on the road to government shared services. Anyone who understands the IT and government space well will confirm that this is a big step.
Asante
Paul Kukubo Chief Executive Officer, Kenya ICT Board PO Box 27150 - 00100 Nairobi, Kenya
12th Floor, Teleposta Towers Koinange Street
Tel +254 20 2089061, +254 20 2211960 Fax: +254 20 2211962 website: www.ict.go.ke local content project: www.tandaa.co.ke, www.facebook.com/tandaakenya twitter:@tandaaKENYA BPO Project: www. doitinkenya.co.ke Digital Villages Project: www.pasha.co.ke
personal contacts _______________
Cell: + 254 735 180001
skype: kukubopaul googletalk: pkukubo personal blog: www.paulkukubo.co.ke personal twitter: @pkukubo
____________________ Vision: Kenya becomes a top ten global ICT hub
Mission: To champion and actively enable Kenya to adopt and exploit ICT, through promotion of partnerships, investments and infrastructure growth for socio economic enrichment
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> wrote:
Lucy,
If you are online, kindly address the sentiments from listers on the summit.
I believe there is a general feeling that the broader ICT discussion that needs to be the agenda for the summit, could take a "back seat", as your interim list of invitees who seem to be mostly MNC's compete fiercely to market themselves and their solutions and carry out aggressive lobbying at the same time to sway policy that works in their favor. It perhaps would be advisable for the Board to ensure a balanced participation in such forums in future, so that others who do not have "vested" interests can keep the debate focussed and balanced. It would also ensure that eskewed policy is not a "by-product" or "end product" of these important meetings.
That is why discussants here are interested, and request that you make arrangements that would transmit live proceedings from the summit at Leisure Lodge, possibly via an internet twitter feed, or you can organise for live "call ins". Participants, can tune in and contribute widely. The summit discussions/reports, and action plans can be availed online.
Are there such plans afoot..?
Harry _____
From: Emmanuel Khisa [mailto:Emmanuel.khisa@kadet.co.ke] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 12:29 PM
To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'
Subject: RE: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
Harry (Not Hare),
I asked the same question. Still waiting for a response, who are the invitees for this very important meeting of minds? And what is the Criterion?
Regards
From: kictanet-bounces+emmanuel.khisa=kadet.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+emmanuel.khisa <mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bemmanuel.khisa> =kadet.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Harry Delano Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 10:11 AM To: emmanuel.khisa@kadet.co.ke Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
Thanks Solomon, and Wals, - point taken..
And while at it;- "The connected Government summit of 2010" announcement, as released by Lucy of ICT Board on Wed.
Listers, whats' your take..? It's all the way in Mombasa - at Leisure Lodge, where I do not think alot of people have been invited
to take part. Is there any way policy discussants would be able to follow the proceedings from there or in a way participate, as
most of the ICT practitioners I see on the roll seem to be multinationals (MNC's)..?
Once again, I suppose it could be an opportunity to impress on those up there, what the real stakeholders want to see put in place.
Harry..
_____
From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry <mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bharry> =comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Solomon Mburu Kamau Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 9:11 AM To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
On 26 March 2010 08:54, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Harry (not the Hare ;-)
As Jesus once said, let those who have ears, hear...
Even in 'coded messages' that Jesus gave, He would later explain to His disciples and other interested parties.
On another level, I think the link provided by Walu gives an insight on what ICT Board is all about. Methinks we should get to Bw. Kukubo to further explain to us on ICT Board is exactly!!!
walu. nb: its a coded message but am sure it is quite clear to those who must take action to interven.
--- On Thu, 3/25/10, Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> wrote:
From: Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> Subject: RE: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? To: "'Walubengo J'" <jwalu@yahoo.com>
Cc: "'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 2:19 PM
Walu,
Could you please "interpret", I think we lost you somewhere along the way.... It seems some kind of a "mishmash"
Harry
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From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry <mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bharry> =comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Walubengo J
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 11:39 AM To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
Yawe,
Google brought me the official answer @ http://www.ict.go.ke/index.php/theboard/our-mandate-a-objectives
But I could add my own "unofficial" perspective/personal opinion which is that the ICT Board could be the Ministry of Information implementing agent for ICT Strategies/Projects/Activities. This could have been occasioned by the e-Government Secretariate and GITS (Government Info Technology Services) cold-war and power games that may have compromised on each others ability to deliver on technology enabled services for Government.
walu.
--- On Thu, 3/25/10, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
From: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 11:01 AM
Who is ICT Board and what exactly is their mandate?
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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