Vision 2030: ICT and Other Sectors Converged (Day 1)
Mr Kibati, Thanks for being in the discussion list. I take note of the open data deployment as a way of relaying public information to citizens. Also considering that that Vision 2030 flagship projects are quite a number spread out across the nation, how would you use ICT to inform the public on the status of these projects which i would closely link to the open data. Regards Sam Aguyo
From a Vision 2030 perspective, we will strive to be the significant contributor to the open Data platform. If you have any technical ideas on
Sam, Thank you. You are spot on. Our new website portal is the initial phase towards a Vision 2030 dashboard which will seek to pull data from all Vision 2030 implementing agencies and synthesize to provide overall status of Flagship projects and Vision 2030. This is work in progress but your intervention is timely. We shall be working on a dashboard system architecture which specifically includes integration with Open Data. We look to commence this effort in January. the Vision 2030 + Open Data integration, please forward to Emmanuel Nzai - enzai@vision2030.go.ke. <http://www.vision2030.go.ke/> logo.jpg Mugo Kibati Director General Kenya Vision 2030 Delivery Secretariat KUSCCO Centre, 2nd Floor - Upper Hill PO Box 52301 - 00200, Nairobi Email: mugo@vision2030.go.ke www.vision2030.go.ke From: kictanet-bounces+mugo=vision2030.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+mugo=vision2030.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Sam Aguyo Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 3:38 PM To: Mugo Kibati Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] Vision 2030: ICT and Other Sectors Converged (Day 1) Mr Kibati, Thanks for being in the discussion list. I take note of the open data deployment as a way of relaying public information to citizens. Also considering that that Vision 2030 flagship projects are quite a number spread out across the nation, how would you use ICT to inform the public on the status of these projects which i would closely link to the open data. Regards Sam Aguyo
Hi Mugo, I appreciate that I am coming into this discussion late but I hope you will accommodate me by responding to the following issue: An issue was raised by the Prime Ministry during a round table forum with KEPSA where he mentioned that when visiting one of the Asian Tiger countries with a delegation from Kenya he asked how they had made it to 2nd world status in such a short time. The response from the host was that the question is not why the Asian Tigers made it but why Kenya did not yet they had sent a delegation to Kenya in the late 1960's to learn how Kenya was progressing so well after independence at which point they picked a copy of a document that we (Kenya) were using which they used as their blue print.
From that response, it means that we had the right agenda 40+ years ago, where did we go wrong?
Regard Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: Mugo Kibati <mugo@vision2030.go.ke> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2011, 16:03 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Vision 2030: ICT and Other Sectors Converged (Day 1) Sam, Thank you. You are spot on. Our new website portal is the initial phase towards a Vision 2030 dashboard which will seek to pull data from all Vision 2030 implementing agencies and synthesize to provide overall status of Flagship projects and Vision 2030. This is work in progress but your intervention is timely. We shall be working on a dashboard system architecture which specifically includes integration with Open Data. We look to commence this effort in January. From a Vision 2030 perspective, we will strive to be the significant contributor to the open Data platform. If you have any technical ideas on the Vision 2030 + Open Data integration, please forward to Emmanuel Nzai - enzai@vision2030.go.ke. Mugo Kibati Director General Kenya Vision 2030 Delivery Secretariat KUSCCO Centre, 2nd Floor - Upper Hill PO Box 52301 - 00200, Nairobi Email: mugo@vision2030.go.ke www.vision2030.go.ke From:kictanet-bounces+mugo=vision2030.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+mugo=vision2030.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Sam Aguyo Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 3:38 PM To: Mugo Kibati Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] Vision 2030: ICT and Other Sectors Converged (Day 1) Mr Kibati, Thanks for being in the discussion list. I take note of the open data deployment as a way of relaying public information to citizens. Also considering that that Vision 2030 flagship projects are quite a number spread out across the nation, how would you use ICT to inform the public on the status of these projects which i would closely link to the open data. Regards Sam Aguyo _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/robertyawe%40yahoo.co.u... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
The organized MBA is more likely to be hired to manage the enterprise founded by a passionate entrepreneur. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_college_dropout_billionaires On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 8:18 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi Mugo,
I appreciate that I am coming into this discussion late but I hope you will accommodate me by responding to the following issue:
An issue was raised by the Prime Ministry during a round table forum with KEPSA where he mentioned that when visiting one of the Asian Tiger countries with a delegation from Kenya he asked how they had made it to 2nd world status in such a short time.
The response from the host was that the question is not why the Asian Tigers made it but why Kenya did not yet they had sent a delegation to Kenya in the late 1960's to learn how Kenya was progressing so well after independence at which point they picked a copy of a document that we (Kenya) were using which they used as their blue print.
From that response, it means that we had the right agenda 40+ years ago, where did we go wrong?
Regard
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ------------------------------ *From:* Mugo Kibati <mugo@vision2030.go.ke> *To:* robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Tuesday, 20 December 2011, 16:03 *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Vision 2030: ICT and Other Sectors Converged (Day 1)
Sam, Thank you. You are spot on. Our new website portal is the initial phase towards a Vision 2030 dashboard which will seek to pull data from all Vision 2030 implementing agencies and synthesize to provide overall status of Flagship projects and Vision 2030. This is work in progress but your intervention is timely. We shall be working on a dashboard system architecture which specifically includes integration with Open Data. We look to commence this effort in January. From a Vision 2030 perspective, we will strive to be the significant contributor to the open Data platform. If you have any technical ideas on the Vision 2030 + Open Data integration, please forward to Emmanuel Nzai - enzai@vision2030.go.ke.
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Mugo Kibati Director General Kenya Vision 2030 Delivery Secretariat KUSCCO Centre, 2nd Floor - Upper Hill PO Box 52301 - 00200, Nairobi Email: mugo@vision2030.go.ke www.vision2030.go.ke
*From:* kictanet-bounces+mugo=vision2030.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke[mailto: kictanet-bounces+mugo=vision2030.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Sam Aguyo *Sent:* Wednesday, December 14, 2011 3:38 PM *To:* Mugo Kibati *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* [kictanet] Vision 2030: ICT and Other Sectors Converged (Day 1)
Mr Kibati,
Thanks for being in the discussion list. I take note of the open data deployment as a way of relaying public information to citizens. Also considering that that Vision 2030 flagship projects are quite a number spread out across the nation, how would you use ICT to inform the public on the status of these projects which i would closely link to the open data.
Regards Sam Aguyo
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Robert, Very much my sentiments earlier on. A solid 40+ years down the line, and very little to show for it based on the initial blue prints we had in place.. Mr. Kibati, perhaps you may clarify this; however, I understand some of the current infrastructure projects are based on design, blue-prints, maps etcetera, from decades ago when they were initially put together but have been lying on the shelves gathering dust.. If this be the case, then let us bring them all out, put them on the drawing board, re-evaluate them with the changed times in mind and move forward to implement them for the benefit of the entire country.. Regards, Harry From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of robert yawe Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 8:19 AM To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: Re: [kictanet] Vision 2030: ICT and Other Sectors Converged (Day 1) Hi Mugo, I appreciate that I am coming into this discussion late but I hope you will accommodate me by responding to the following issue: An issue was raised by the Prime Ministry during a round table forum with KEPSA where he mentioned that when visiting one of the Asian Tiger countries with a delegation from Kenya he asked how they had made it to 2nd world status in such a short time. The response from the host was that the question is not why the Asian Tigers made it but why Kenya did not yet they had sent a delegation to Kenya in the late 1960's to learn how Kenya was progressing so well after independence at which point they picked a copy of a document that we (Kenya) were using which they used as their blue print.
From that response, it means that we had the right agenda 40+ years ago, where did we go wrong?
From a Vision 2030 perspective, we will strive to be the significant contributor to the open Data platform. If you have any technical ideas on
Regard Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 _____ From: Mugo Kibati <mugo@vision2030.go.ke> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2011, 16:03 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Vision 2030: ICT and Other Sectors Converged (Day 1) Sam, Thank you. You are spot on. Our new website portal is the initial phase towards a Vision 2030 dashboard which will seek to pull data from all Vision 2030 implementing agencies and synthesize to provide overall status of Flagship projects and Vision 2030. This is work in progress but your intervention is timely. We shall be working on a dashboard system architecture which specifically includes integration with Open Data. We look to commence this effort in January. the Vision 2030 + Open Data integration, please forward to Emmanuel Nzai - enzai@vision2030.go.ke. <http://www.vision2030.go.ke/> logo.jpg Mugo Kibati Director General Kenya Vision 2030 Delivery Secretariat KUSCCO Centre, 2nd Floor - Upper Hill PO Box 52301 - 00200, Nairobi Email: mugo@vision2030.go.ke www.vision2030.go.ke From: kictanet-bounces+mugo=vision2030.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+mugo=vision2030.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Sam Aguyo Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 3:38 PM To: Mugo Kibati Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] Vision 2030: ICT and Other Sectors Converged (Day 1) Mr Kibati, Thanks for being in the discussion list. I take note of the open data deployment as a way of relaying public information to citizens. Also considering that that Vision 2030 flagship projects are quite a number spread out across the nation, how would you use ICT to inform the public on the status of these projects which i would closely link to the open data. Regards Sam Aguyo _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/robertyawe%40yahoo.co.u k The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
Harry, Let us not lament about the past. Let not surrender. By inviting Mugo, I sincerely thought we could enrich his experience by offering IT solutions. We could talk about Open concepts in dealing with the corruption cancer that afflicts us. We are so near and yet so far. This year I attended six conferences fully paid by the hosts just to talk about our Open Data and Open Broadband platforms initiatives. We are sharing now only to lament ten years down the road that we came up with these ideas that were implemented by other nations to solve their corrupt practices. We are not genetically corrupt. All this Euro crisis and failures such as Lehman Brothers are due to corruption. The difference is that the checks and balances systems in those countries work and the Judiciary does its work. In the US for example Herman Cain has had to abandon his Presidential ambition because of his moral character. Last evening I met a former classmate and Republican campaigner here in Minnesota and he categorically stated that even though Newt Gingrich leads in the polls, the Republicans will not nominate him because of his moral character. The point here is even if the general population may like someone because of his/her appeal, there are party think thanks to provide better analysis of the candidates. Are we able to do this in Kenya? If we can't then let us stop complaining about our leadership. We have an opportunity to manage our resources through automation. CDF is part of open data. Are we saying we do not have the capacity is this list to analyze data? The entire future is going to be based on scientific methods using big data. This is because 90% of future actions including corruption can be predicted using the available data and modern analytics. Can we build upon what we have already to enable realization of the Vision 2030 on our own terms? Winston Churchill once said "if you find yourself in a mess, keep going". There is enough for us to keep going. In every sentence I have seen from all those who contributed to the Vision debate, I saw some application of IT but it was not said. Perhaps we need to restructure ourselves along the lines: complainers, analyzers and solution proposers. In a year's time you will truely realize that IT is indeed a cross cutting field. Ndemo. Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: "Harry Delano" <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> Sender: kictanet-bounces+bitange=jambo.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.keDate: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 09:38:11 To: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Reply-To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Vision 2030: ICT and Other Sectors Converged (Day 1) _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bitange%40jambo.co.ke The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
participants (6)
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bitange＠jambo.co.ke -
Harry Delano -
Mugo Kibati -
robert yawe -
S.M. Muraya -
Sam Aguyo