Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into KICTAnet 2.0
Friends, Great discussion, taking stock of kictanet. Personally, I have found discussions here most informative; in a way, kictanet offers the idealism (free ideas sharing, focus on problem-solving and openness to new ideas, etc.) Adapting to the changing times in terms of how we communicate, issues of the day, changing attitudes, and the like is key. I found the following interesting; written in 1995 as the Internet was about to take off in earnest, it is worth reading and consideration. I am sure the kictanet (in one form or other) is one of those that would live "happily hereafter". Enjoy. ----------- The Natural Life Cycle Of Mailing Lists, revisited Online tools and places have changed enormously over the past ten years, not least with the development of personal blogs to complement community forums... to the extent that these have been labelled 'old skool'. One old tool that has survived and grown is the mailing list, with systems like Yahoogroupsand Smartgroups offering anyone free add-on facilities far more sophisticated than we enjoyed in 1994 (calendars, file stores, polls, picture galleries and so on). I'm finding lists less inviting these days, with more than enough mail, and the shift of many hitherto list contributors to blogging. I'm unsubscribing, or checking the web interface occasdionally. But what new? Enthusiasms wax and wane. Here's a reminder from that earlier age. The Natural Life Cycle Of Mailing Lists by Kat Nagel, December 1994 Every list seems to go through the same cycle: Initial enthusiasm (people introduce themselves, and gush a lot about how wonderful it is to find kindred souls). Evangelism (people moan about how few folks are posting to the list, and brainstorm recruitment strategies). Growth (more and more people join, more and more lengthy threads develop, occasional off-topic threads pop up). Community (lots of threads, some more relevant than others; lots of information and advice is exchanged; experts help other experts as well as less experienced colleagues; friendships develop; people tease each other; newcomers are welcomed with generosity and patience; everyone -- newbie and expert alike -- feels comfortable asking questions, suggesting answers, and sharing opinions). Discomfort with diversity (the number of messages increases dramatically; not every thread is fascinating to every reader; people start complaining about the signal-to-noise ratio; person 1 threatens to quit if *other* people don't limit discussion to person 1's pet topic; person 2 agrees with person 1; person 3 tells 1 & 2 to lighten up; more bandwidth is wasted complaining about off-topic threads than is used for the threads themselves; everyone gets annoyed). Finally: Smug complacency and stagnation (the purists flame everyone who asks an 'old' question or responds with humor to a serious post; newbies are rebuffed; traffic drops to a doze- producing level of a few minor issues; all interesting discussions happen by private email and are limited to a few participants; the purists spend lots of time self-righteously congratulating each other on keeping off-topic threads off the list). OR Maturity (a few people quit in a huff; the rest of the participants stay near stage 4, with stage 5 popping up briefly every few weeks; many people wear out their second or third 'delete' key, but the list lives contentedly ever after). ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com Agano Consulting Inc.; www.aganoconsulting.com; Twitter: nmatunda; Skype: okiambe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Be prepared to face ICT Security failures & know how to respond when they happen! Call: +1-888-587-1150 or info@aganoconsulting.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. On my desk I have a workstation…" - Anonymous ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail, including attachments, may be privileged and may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the addressee(s). Any other distribution, copying, use, or disclosure is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete the message, including any attachments, without making a copy. Thank you.
Hi Matunda, Thanks for going into the archives to retrieve that article, here is my vote on where we stand. Finally: Smug complacency and stagnation Regards PS. I wish we had a way to have a quick & dirty vote Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: Matunda Nyanchama <mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Sunday, 15 April 2012, 21:44 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into KICTAnet 2.0 Friends, Great discussion, taking stock of kictanet. Personally, I have found discussions here most informative; in a way, kictanet offers the idealism (free ideas sharing, focus on problem-solving and openness to new ideas, etc.) Adapting to the changing times in terms of how we communicate, issues of the day, changing attitudes, and the like is key. I found the following interesting; written in 1995 as the Internet was about to take off in earnest, it is worth reading and consideration. I am sure the kictanet (in one form or other) is one of those that would live "happily hereafter". Enjoy. ----------- The Natural Life Cycle Of Mailing Lists, revisited Online tools and places have changed enormously over the past ten years, not least with the development of personal blogs to complement community forums... to the extent that these have been labelled 'old skool'. One old tool that has survived and grown is the mailing list, with systems like Yahoogroupsand Smartgroups offering anyone free add-on facilities far more sophisticated than we enjoyed in 1994 (calendars, file stores, polls, picture galleries and so on). I'm finding lists less inviting these days, with more than enough mail, and the shift of many hitherto list contributors to blogging. I'm unsubscribing, or checking the web interface occasdionally. But what new? Enthusiasms wax and wane. Here's a reminder from that earlier age. The Natural Life Cycle Of Mailing Lists by Kat Nagel, December 1994 Every list seems to go through the same cycle: Initial enthusiasm (people introduce themselves, and gush a lot about how wonderful it is to find kindred souls). Evangelism (people moan about how few folks are posting to the list, and brainstorm recruitment strategies). Growth (more and more people join, more and more lengthy threads develop, occasional off-topic threads pop up). Community (lots of threads, some more relevant than others; lots of information and advice is exchanged; experts help other experts as well as less experienced colleagues; friendships develop; people tease each other; newcomers are welcomed with generosity and patience; everyone -- newbie and expert alike -- feels comfortable asking questions, suggesting answers, and sharing opinions). Discomfort with diversity (the number of messages increases dramatically; not every thread is fascinating to every reader; people start complaining about the signal-to-noise ratio; person 1 threatens to quit if *other* people don't limit discussion to person 1's pet topic; person 2 agrees with person 1; person 3 tells 1 & 2 to lighten up; more bandwidth is wasted complaining about off-topic threads than is used for the threads themselves; everyone gets annoyed). Finally: Smug complacency and stagnation (the purists flame everyone who asks an 'old' question or responds with humor to a serious post; newbies are rebuffed; traffic drops to a doze- producing level of a few minor issues; all interesting discussions happen by private email and are limited to a few participants; the purists spend lots of time self-righteously congratulating each other on keeping off-topic threads off the list). OR Maturity (a few people quit in a huff; the rest of the participants stay near stage 4, with stage 5 popping up briefly every few weeks; many people wear out their second or third 'delete' key, but the list lives contentedly ever after). ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com Agano Consulting Inc.; www.aganoconsulting.com; Twitter: nmatunda; Skype: okiambe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Be prepared to face ICT Security failures & know how to respond when they happen! Call: +1-888-587-1150 or info@aganoconsulting.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. 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