Day 1 of 5 - Challenges Posed by Post-Election Violence on ICT Organisations
Greetings all, As mentioned last friday, we need to engage positively around the current crisis stalking our country. One suggested method was that we share experiences, impacts and how we are coping with the challenges occassioned. The overal aim is to enable members to learn from each other while emphasising the impact the crises continues to have on ICT organisations. Today is Day 1 and from the program below. We have 2days to share the challenges posed by the Post Election Violence on ICT organisations. I know quite abit is already shared in the press but no harm done if a brief re-run on our list for the benefit of those who may have missed out. So feel free to speak as (Telco) Operators, Consumers,ICT Service Providers(BPO,ISPs,etc) Media, Academia or all of the above ;-) walu. ~~~~~~~~Full Program~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~Objectives~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Share the Challenges posed by the Post-election Violence on ICT organisations Share current interventions employed to overcome these Challenges Quantify the Impact of Post-election violence on ICT organisations Way forward and conclusions Deliverables. eWorkshop Report containing the deliberations, consensus and action points arising from the online discussions. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Methodology~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Online discussion will be structured along 4 themes, to be discussed across the 5days as follows. Share the Challenges posed by the Post-election Violence on ICT organisations (2days) -Economical, Social, Technical Challenges. Share current interventions employed to overcome these Challenges (1day) -What short-term tactics are you using to work around the challenges -What are your long-term options with regard to the challenges Quantify the Impact of Post-election violence on ICT organisations (1day) -What is the toll per day in terms of lost business opportunity, man-hours, equipment, etc l Way Forward and Conclusions -1day. -what are the lessons learnt? -what can the ICT community do to accelerate 'back-to-normal' situation ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
John, With all due respect I don't think this is the time to do a postmortem for we are still in the mess. This could be the opportunity for kictanet to move from policy oriented discussion to actual engagement on the ground. A key role Kictanet could possibly play is ensuring that the facts on the ground are being reported accurately in our ICT media and maybe to strengthen those who are using ICTs to help solve this problem. www.ushahidi.com is one good example. On Jan 28, 2008 8:33 AM, John Walubengo <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greetings all,
As mentioned last friday, we need to engage positively around the current crisis stalking our country. One suggested method was that we share experiences, impacts and how we are coping with the challenges occassioned. The overal aim is to enable members to learn from each other while emphasising the impact the crises continues to have on ICT organisations.
Today is Day 1 and from the program below. We have 2days to share the challenges posed by the Post Election Violence on ICT organisations.
I know quite abit is already shared in the press but no harm done if a brief re-run on our list for the benefit of those who may have missed out. So feel free to speak as (Telco) Operators, Consumers,ICT Service Providers(BPO,ISPs,etc) Media, Academia or all of the above ;-)
walu. ~~~~~~~~Full Program~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~Objectives~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ • Share the Challenges posed by the Post-election Violence on ICT organisations • Share current interventions employed to overcome these Challenges • Quantify the Impact of Post-election violence on ICT organisations • Way forward and conclusions
Deliverables. eWorkshop Report containing the deliberations, consensus and action points arising from the online discussions.
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Good point Bill. But I have a slightly different view. FYI - KICTANET is part of a small group of ICT stakeholders that are putting together a campaign to use ICTs to contribute towards the healing and peace process while at the same time improving the country's image by providing a window into the good things that are happenning instead of focusing on the negative. One of the major challenges that this campaign has considered is the availability of fresh content and especially authentic content that comes directly from people/organisations living/dealing with the realities of life in the midst of this crisis. The small group I mentioned previously has been working on a concept paper, basic online portal, linkages with similar minded organisations in advance of a meeting/workshop where a large and broad group of stakeholders will refine the campaign strategy and "sign up" to ensure a high impact undertaking. I hope that this can be sometime either this week or early next week.... I will send out the draft campaign concept paper as part of the "interventions" discussion on day 3. So the main point I want to make is that this kind of discussion would generate invaluable content that can be captured and displayed to help the healing process and make some steps towards redeeming the country's image. Regards, Brian On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 09:30:30 +0300, Bill Kagai <mediacorp.research@mediacorp.co.ke> wrote:
John, With all due respect I don't think this is the time to do a postmortem for we are still in the mess. This could be the opportunity for kictanet to move from policy oriented discussion to actual engagement on the ground.
A key role Kictanet could possibly play is ensuring that the facts on the ground are being reported accurately in our ICT media and maybe to strengthen those who are using ICTs to help solve this problem. www.ushahidi.com is one good example.
On Jan 28, 2008 8:33 AM, John Walubengo <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greetings all,
As mentioned last friday, we need to engage positively around the current crisis stalking our country. One suggested method was that we share experiences, impacts and how we are coping with the challenges occassioned. The overal aim is to enable members to learn from each other while emphasising the impact the crises continues to have on ICT organisations.
Today is Day 1 and from the program below. We have 2days to share the challenges posed by the Post Election Violence on ICT organisations.
I know quite abit is already shared in the press but no harm done if a brief re-run on our list for the benefit of those who may have missed out. So feel free to speak as (Telco) Operators, Consumers,ICT Service Providers(BPO,ISPs,etc) Media, Academia or all of the above ;-)
walu. ~~~~~~~~Full Program~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~Objectives~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ • Share the Challenges posed by the Post-election Violence on ICT organisations • Share current interventions employed to overcome these Challenges • Quantify the Impact of Post-election violence on ICT organisations • Way forward and conclusions
Deliverables. eWorkshop Report containing the deliberations, consensus and action points arising from the online discussions.
Folks, Munsaka is the only (half)-objection so far, Bill having cleared the air for us to proceed with discussion. I think we must find strength to finish off this discussion, even as things continue to look worse; indeed it could be precisely because of the woresning situation that we must get to share some ideas. Here are my contribution on challenges faced at an ICT training school where I work: Economical Challenges: Student turn-out has been reduced drastically compared to previous years. Evening classes are most affected and some face outright cancellation. Social Challenges: We have about 100 employees who previously interacted freely and accepted each others political leaning. Today, employees sub-consiously avoid each others company based on suspected tribal lines. Office reporting and ending times remain unpredictable - depending on the latest romour and/or fact. Technical Challenges: none so far. any other experiences? walu. --- brian <brian@caret.net> wrote:
Good point Bill. But I have a slightly different view.
FYI - KICTANET is part of a small group of ICT stakeholders that are putting together a campaign to use ICTs to contribute towards the healing and peace process while at the same time improving the country's image by providing a window into the good things that are happenning instead of focusing on the negative.
One of the major challenges that this campaign has considered is the availability of fresh content and especially authentic content that comes directly from people/organisations living/dealing with the realities of life in the midst of this crisis.
The small group I mentioned previously has been working on a concept paper, basic online portal, linkages with similar minded organisations in advance of a meeting/workshop where a large and broad group of stakeholders will refine the campaign strategy and "sign up" to ensure a high impact undertaking.
I hope that this can be sometime either this week or early next week....
I will send out the draft campaign concept paper as part of the "interventions" discussion on day 3.
So the main point I want to make is that this kind of discussion would generate invaluable content that can be captured and displayed to help the healing process and make some steps towards redeeming the country's image.
Regards,
Brian
John, With all due respect I don't think this is the time to do a postmortem for we are still in the mess. This could be the opportunity for kictanet to move from policy oriented discussion to actual engagement on
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 09:30:30 +0300, Bill Kagai <mediacorp.research@mediacorp.co.ke> wrote: the ground.
A key role Kictanet could possibly play is ensuring
ground are being reported accurately in our ICT media and maybe to strengthen those who are using ICTs to help solve this
that the facts on the problem.
www.ushahidi.com is one good example.
On Jan 28, 2008 8:33 AM, John Walubengo <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greetings all,
As mentioned last friday, we need to engage positively around the current crisis stalking our country. One suggested method was that we share experiences, impacts and how we are coping with the challenges occassioned. The overal aim is to enable members to learn from each other while emphasising the impact the crises continues to have on ICT organisations.
Today is Day 1 and from the program below. We have 2days to share the challenges posed by the Post Election Violence on ICT organisations.
I know quite abit is already shared in the press but no harm done if a brief re-run on our list for the benefit of those who may have missed out. So feel free to speak as (Telco) Operators, Consumers,ICT Service Providers(BPO,ISPs,etc) Media, Academia or all of the above ;-)
walu. ~~~~~~~~Full Program~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~Objectives~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ⢠Share the Challenges posed by the Post-election Violence on ICT organisations ⢠Share current interventions employed to overcome these Challenges ⢠Quantify the Impact of Post-election violence on ICT organisations ⢠Way forward and conclusions
Deliverables. eWorkshop Report containing the deliberations, consensus and action points arising from the online discussions.
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Ok, I was silent because Brain Longwe had earlier asked that the list be what it was meant to be. Since that position has changed, I want to start with "funny" joke. We have a saying in this regard. Have you been one of those who have tried or struggled to guess the tribe of the person sending emails to mailing lists? Please own up:) Last week we considered assessing the psychological consequences the crisis was having on consumers with regard to email and blogs posts. It turned out that some tried to "align" their views on e-mail senders whom they perceived (or imagined?) to be of the same or "friendly" tribes. Our conclusion, listers were not tribal, yet the stress, politics and media had forced them to seek tribal alignments. We were happy to discover that. Next we discussed tensions at workplace Telkom Kenya being our sample. We learnt how badly it had divided staff there. We overheard employee conversations! We wished companies would hold extra parties to lessen tensions at work. I have just noticed a ke-users lister has posted a very positive message. Their HR department today held an organisation-wide counselling session. That was excellent. All companies should start similar initiatives. Thanks Saidimu! Terrible for us because when we engaging Telcos and ISPs we never ask for okuyu, jang or kale etc tariffs or quality of service standards. Our engagement covers coast to lake, Turkana to Namanga, Garissa to Busia. At such moments, Information and Communications Consumer protection is more than ever necessary. We are battling rights of the people know on one hand, on the other we are urging responsibility to accompany freedom of expression, fighting against ban on live broadcasts also aware of the dangers of misuse, against sms sniffing very aware of misinformation dangers. We noted and appreciated the media's own intervention early and responsibility but also appreciate the role of government to protect everyone. This thread is on the challenges hence I stop there for now to hear others' lest I be accused of monopolising on opinion. I will be back;) Regards, Alex --- John Walubengo <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote: ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
mmhh, looks like very few contributions. I understand the dampened mood. But really, we have to talk. Unless you guys want us to bring Koffi Anaan here to make us share... Anyway, Thanx Alex, Bill, and Brian for your contributions so far. I was just thinking at a national level...the impact so far. 1. Mobile Operators (earlier in the fracas I bought a scratch card worth 250sh for 500sh, black market rates) 2. BPO projects (whats happening at Kencall and others?) 3. ICT Board (with World Bank threatening to hold back funds, what happens to the Infrastructure projects that were to provide Bandwidth to BPOs and Academia?) 4. Media (how are you coping with the live transmission ban?) 6. ISPs, ASPs, Cybercafes (any impacts) 7. Our members in the region UG, RW (any impacts?) Plse talk, we have only four more days to go. It is refreshing to talk about this things. It is part of the healing process. walu. --- Alex Gakuru <alex.gakuru@yahoo.com> wrote:
Ok, I was silent because Brain Longwe had earlier asked that the list be what it was meant to be. Since that position has changed, I want to start with "funny" joke. We have a saying in this regard.
Have you been one of those who have tried or struggled to guess the tribe of the person sending emails to mailing lists? Please own up:) Last week we considered assessing the psychological consequences the crisis was having on consumers with regard to email and blogs posts.
It turned out that some tried to "align" their views on e-mail senders whom they perceived (or imagined?) to be of the same or "friendly" tribes. Our conclusion, listers were not tribal, yet the stress, politics and media had forced them to seek tribal alignments. We were happy to discover that.
Next we discussed tensions at workplace Telkom Kenya being our sample. We learnt how badly it had divided staff there. We overheard employee conversations! We wished companies would hold extra parties to lessen tensions at work. I have just noticed a ke-users lister has posted a very positive message. Their HR department today held an organisation-wide counselling session. That was excellent. All companies should start similar initiatives. Thanks Saidimu!
Terrible for us because when we engaging Telcos and ISPs we never ask for okuyu, jang or kale etc tariffs or quality of service standards. Our engagement covers coast to lake, Turkana to Namanga, Garissa to Busia.
At such moments, Information and Communications Consumer protection is more than ever necessary. We are battling rights of the people know on one hand, on the other we are urging responsibility to accompany freedom of expression, fighting against ban on live broadcasts also aware of the dangers of misuse, against sms sniffing very aware of misinformation dangers.
We noted and appreciated the media's own intervention early and responsibility but also appreciate the role of government to protect everyone.
This thread is on the challenges hence I stop there for now to hear others' lest I be accused of monopolising on opinion. I will be back;)
Regards,
Alex
--- John Walubengo <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
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John, I know for a fact that our distributors (ISPs) in kenya have recorded very low sales for this time of the year compared to previous years. We have also had some accounts which have been deactivated, mostly from the hospitality industry. Hotels are the worst hit right now and such we expect very little business from this sector. I guess we have to live with the situation as is or alternatively do something about it. I think it is time Kenyan professionals from all walks came out and did something about this. This situation is now getting out of hand. Kabenn. ________________________________________ From: kictanet-bounces+bmwenda=iwayafrica.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke [kictanet-bounces+bmwenda=iwayafrica.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of John Walubengo [jwalu@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 9:45 AM To: Bernard Mwenda Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day 2 of 5 - Challenges Posed by Post-ElectionViolence on ICT Organisations mmhh, looks like very few contributions. I understand the dampened mood. But really, we have to talk. Unless you guys want us to bring Koffi Anaan here to make us share... Anyway, Thanx Alex, Bill, and Brian for your contributions so far. I was just thinking at a national level...the impact so far. 1. Mobile Operators (earlier in the fracas I bought a scratch card worth 250sh for 500sh, black market rates) 2. BPO projects (whats happening at Kencall and others?) 3. ICT Board (with World Bank threatening to hold back funds, what happens to the Infrastructure projects that were to provide Bandwidth to BPOs and Academia?) 4. Media (how are you coping with the live transmission ban?) 6. ISPs, ASPs, Cybercafes (any impacts) 7. Our members in the region UG, RW (any impacts?) Plse talk, we have only four more days to go. It is refreshing to talk about this things. It is part of the healing process. walu. --- Alex Gakuru <alex.gakuru@yahoo.com> wrote:
Ok, I was silent because Brain Longwe had earlier asked that the list be what it was meant to be. Since that position has changed, I want to start with "funny" joke. We have a saying in this regard.
Have you been one of those who have tried or struggled to guess the tribe of the person sending emails to mailing lists? Please own up:) Last week we considered assessing the psychological consequences the crisis was having on consumers with regard to email and blogs posts.
It turned out that some tried to "align" their views on e-mail senders whom they perceived (or imagined?) to be of the same or "friendly" tribes. Our conclusion, listers were not tribal, yet the stress, politics and media had forced them to seek tribal alignments. We were happy to discover that.
Next we discussed tensions at workplace Telkom Kenya being our sample. We learnt how badly it had divided staff there. We overheard employee conversations! We wished companies would hold extra parties to lessen tensions at work. I have just noticed a ke-users lister has posted a very positive message. Their HR department today held an organisation-wide counselling session. That was excellent. All companies should start similar initiatives. Thanks Saidimu!
Terrible for us because when we engaging Telcos and ISPs we never ask for okuyu, jang or kale etc tariffs or quality of service standards. Our engagement covers coast to lake, Turkana to Namanga, Garissa to Busia.
At such moments, Information and Communications Consumer protection is more than ever necessary. We are battling rights of the people know on one hand, on the other we are urging responsibility to accompany freedom of expression, fighting against ban on live broadcasts also aware of the dangers of misuse, against sms sniffing very aware of misinformation dangers.
We noted and appreciated the media's own intervention early and responsibility but also appreciate the role of government to protect everyone.
This thread is on the challenges hence I stop there for now to hear others' lest I be accused of monopolising on opinion. I will be back;)
Regards,
Alex
--- John Walubengo <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
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I think we are all trying to deal with the crisis which seems to grow every day with no-one seemingly concerned enough to stop it. With regard to the scratch card prices, the problem was, and is still to some extent, the disruption of our supply lines due to the violence and the closing of the banking network for more than 10 days. In a, mostly, informal economy, the impact of lengthy bank closures has a significant impact on the economy and is even outlawed in some countries. The problem is that stocks are kept to a minimum due to cash flow and security problems. So if there is a minor blip this does lead to significant shortages. We are looking, as are others, for alternative solutions to deal with this problem. At one point we became a bank and collected billions of shillings in cash (and stored them in our vaults) from dealers in order to get the supply process going. Fortunately we never experienced severe disruption to our network except for some areas in Western (where else) due to the inability to get diesel fuel to some key sites. But the threat was always there. The other threat worth mentioning is the ever increasing hostile hate SMSs which were circulating after the elections and continue to circulate. We are introducing a filtering system which will hopefully stop some of them, but we must realize that the communications networks are vital in times of unrest and if we are forced to close down some elements to stop these hate messages, the impact could be felt even more widely and may even introduce panic. We must guard our freedom but we must also act responsibly to protect that freedom. I know I am preaching to the choir, and may even encourage some debate, but it is a fine line in these critical times. Regards, Michael CEO Safaricom Limited -----Original Message----- From: kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of John Walubengo Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 9:45 AM To: Michael Joseph Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day 2 of 5 - Challenges Posed byPost-ElectionViolence on ICT Organisations mmhh, looks like very few contributions. I understand the dampened mood. But really, we have to talk. Unless you guys want us to bring Koffi Anaan here to make us share... Anyway, Thanx Alex, Bill, and Brian for your contributions so far. I was just thinking at a national level...the impact so far. 1. Mobile Operators (earlier in the fracas I bought a scratch card worth 250sh for 500sh, black market rates) 2. BPO projects (whats happening at Kencall and others?) 3. ICT Board (with World Bank threatening to hold back funds, what happens to the Infrastructure projects that were to provide Bandwidth to BPOs and Academia?) 4. Media (how are you coping with the live transmission ban?) 6. ISPs, ASPs, Cybercafes (any impacts) 7. Our members in the region UG, RW (any impacts?) Plse talk, we have only four more days to go. It is refreshing to talk about this things. It is part of the healing process. walu. --- Alex Gakuru <alex.gakuru@yahoo.com> wrote:
Ok, I was silent because Brain Longwe had earlier asked that the list be what it was meant to be. Since that position has changed, I want to start with "funny" joke. We have a saying in this regard.
Have you been one of those who have tried or struggled to guess the tribe of the person sending emails to mailing lists? Please own up:) Last week we considered assessing the psychological consequences the crisis was having on consumers with regard to email and blogs posts.
It turned out that some tried to "align" their views on e-mail senders whom they perceived (or imagined?) to be of the same or "friendly" tribes. Our conclusion, listers were not tribal, yet the stress, politics and media had forced them to seek tribal alignments. We were happy to discover that.
Next we discussed tensions at workplace Telkom Kenya being our sample. We learnt how badly it had divided staff there. We overheard employee conversations! We wished companies would hold extra parties to lessen tensions at work. I have just noticed a ke-users lister has posted a very positive message. Their HR department today held an organisation-wide counselling session. That was excellent. All companies should start similar initiatives. Thanks Saidimu!
Terrible for us because when we engaging Telcos and ISPs we never ask for okuyu, jang or kale etc tariffs or quality of service standards. Our engagement covers coast to lake, Turkana to Namanga, Garissa to Busia.
At such moments, Information and Communications Consumer protection is more than ever necessary. We are battling rights of the people know on one hand, on the other we are urging responsibility to accompany freedom of expression, fighting against ban on live broadcasts also aware of the dangers of misuse, against sms sniffing very aware of misinformation dangers.
We noted and appreciated the media's own intervention early and responsibility but also appreciate the role of government to protect everyone.
This thread is on the challenges hence I stop there for now to hear others' lest I be accused of monopolising on opinion. I will be back;)
Regards,
Alex
--- John Walubengo <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Yesterday the Institute of Human Resource Management held a half day workshop on reconciliation and healing in the workplace. Find out more from Susan Kiama at: susan@tgagroupea.com There is much that ICT folk can do to assist with logistics, communications etc. I support the view that the Kictanet community focuses on that. Find out who needs what, and match it with offers. I have been working with Marcel to have KIF mount an e-marketplace of offers and needs, and I have put him in touch with religious and civil society groups. Do see how you can support that. Mike Eldon From: Alex Gakuru <alex.gakuru@yahoo.com> To: meldon@symphony.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: 01/28/2008 05:21 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day 1 of 5 - Challenges Posed by Post-ElectionViolence on ICT Organisations Ok, I was silent because Brain Longwe had earlier asked that the list be what it was meant to be. Since that position has changed, I want to start with "funny" joke. We have a saying in this regard. Have you been one of those who have tried or struggled to guess the tribe of the person sending emails to mailing lists? Please own up:) Last week we considered assessing the psychological consequences the crisis was having on consumers with regard to email and blogs posts. It turned out that some tried to "align" their views on e-mail senders whom they perceived (or imagined?) to be of the same or "friendly" tribes. Our conclusion, listers were not tribal, yet the stress, politics and media had forced them to seek tribal alignments. We were happy to discover that. Next we discussed tensions at workplace Telkom Kenya being our sample. We learnt how badly it had divided staff there. We overheard employee conversations! We wished companies would hold extra parties to lessen tensions at work. I have just noticed a ke-users lister has posted a very positive message. Their HR department today held an organisation-wide counselling session. That was excellent. All companies should start similar initiatives. Thanks Saidimu! Terrible for us because when we engaging Telcos and ISPs we never ask for okuyu, jang or kale etc tariffs or quality of service standards. Our engagement covers coast to lake, Turkana to Namanga, Garissa to Busia. At such moments, Information and Communications Consumer protection is more than ever necessary. We are battling rights of the people know on one hand, on the other we are urging responsibility to accompany freedom of expression, fighting against ban on live broadcasts also aware of the dangers of misuse, against sms sniffing very aware of misinformation dangers. We noted and appreciated the media's own intervention early and responsibility but also appreciate the role of government to protect everyone. This thread is on the challenges hence I stop there for now to hear others' lest I be accused of monopolising on opinion. I will be back;) Regards, Alex --- John Walubengo <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote: ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: meldon@symphony.co.ke Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/meldon%40symphony.co.ke
On Jan 29, 2008 5:06 PM, <MEldon@symphony.co.ke> wrote:
There is much that ICT folk can do to assist with logistics, communications etc. I support the view that the Kictanet community focuses on that.
The other big problem is impunity on infrastructure destruction. If someone is captured pulling out railway lines, destroying telecommunication masts or digging trenches on highways, they should know that they will be held liable. If such messages were passed via sms by safaricom....then it will make it easy to contain this kind of wanton destruction at macro level. Bill
The current Comunications Act covers such offenses and ought to be enforced to the max. I however, would like to propose that in the revision of the communications act higher penalties be placed upon those who deliberately damage or interfere with communications infrastructure of licensed operators. Brian On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 21:57:15 +0300, Bill Kagai <mediacorp.research@mediacorp.co.ke> wrote:
On Jan 29, 2008 5:06 PM, <MEldon@symphony.co.ke> wrote:
There is much that ICT folk can do to assist with logistics, communications etc. I support the view that the Kictanet community focuses on that.
The other big problem is impunity on infrastructure destruction. If someone is captured pulling out railway lines, destroying telecommunication masts or digging trenches on highways, they should know that they will be held liable. If such messages were passed via sms by safaricom....then it will make it easy to contain this kind of wanton destruction at macro level.
Bill
Mike, Indeed there is a lot that ICT folk can do to support humanitarian activities as you have rightly described below. In this regard I can report that The Kenya ICT Board and the BPO & CC Association are working on an initiative that will provide a solution in this regard. The solution is being finalised. To this end several presentations have already been made to potential target users /beneficiaries/sponsors and it has been received well not only as a short term solution for current humanitarian activities, but also as strategic project for the long-term. Some details of the concept will be shared during the KIF - ICT Board Luncheon tomorrow. Kind Regards, Eunice Mueni Kariuki Deputy CEO - Marketing Kenya ICT Board - CCK along Waiyaki Way PO Box 27150 - 00100 Nairobi, Kenya Tel: +254 20 2089062 Fax: +254 20 315147 alt. email/msn ID: eunice.kariuki@hotmail.com -----Original Message----- From: kictanet-bounces+eunicekariuki=ict.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eunicekariuki=ict.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of MEldon@symphony.co.ke Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 5:07 PM To: eunicekariuki@ict.go.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions; kictanet-bounces+meldon=symphony.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day 1 of 5 - Challenges Posed by Post-ElectionViolence on ICT Organisations Yesterday the Institute of Human Resource Management held a half day workshop on reconciliation and healing in the workplace. Find out more from Susan Kiama at: susan@tgagroupea.com There is much that ICT folk can do to assist with logistics, communications etc. I support the view that the Kictanet community focuses on that. Find out who needs what, and match it with offers. I have been working with Marcel to have KIF mount an e-marketplace of offers and needs, and I have put him in touch with religious and civil society groups. Do see how you can support that. Mike Eldon From: Alex Gakuru <alex.gakuru@yahoo.com> To: meldon@symphony.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: 01/28/2008 05:21 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day 1 of 5 - Challenges Posed by Post-ElectionViolence on ICT Organisations Ok, I was silent because Brain Longwe had earlier asked that the list be what it was meant to be. Since that position has changed, I want to start with "funny" joke. We have a saying in this regard. Have you been one of those who have tried or struggled to guess the tribe of the person sending emails to mailing lists? Please own up:) Last week we considered assessing the psychological consequences the crisis was having on consumers with regard to email and blogs posts. It turned out that some tried to "align" their views on e-mail senders whom they perceived (or imagined?) to be of the same or "friendly" tribes. Our conclusion, listers were not tribal, yet the stress, politics and media had forced them to seek tribal alignments. We were happy to discover that. Next we discussed tensions at workplace Telkom Kenya being our sample. We learnt how badly it had divided staff there. We overheard employee conversations! We wished companies would hold extra parties to lessen tensions at work. I have just noticed a ke-users lister has posted a very positive message. Their HR department today held an organisation-wide counselling session. That was excellent. All companies should start similar initiatives. Thanks Saidimu! Terrible for us because when we engaging Telcos and ISPs we never ask for okuyu, jang or kale etc tariffs or quality of service standards. Our engagement covers coast to lake, Turkana to Namanga, Garissa to Busia. At such moments, Information and Communications Consumer protection is more than ever necessary. We are battling rights of the people know on one hand, on the other we are urging responsibility to accompany freedom of expression, fighting against ban on live broadcasts also aware of the dangers of misuse, against sms sniffing very aware of misinformation dangers. We noted and appreciated the media's own intervention early and responsibility but also appreciate the role of government to protect everyone. This thread is on the challenges hence I stop there for now to hear others' lest I be accused of monopolising on opinion. I will be back;) Regards, Alex --- John Walubengo <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote: ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: meldon@symphony.co.ke Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/meldon%40symphony.co.ke _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: eunicekariuki@ict.go.ke Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/eunicekariuki%40ict.go. ke
Thanks! Mike From: "Eunice Kariuki" <eunicekariuki@ict.go.ke> To: meldon@symphony.co.ke Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>, kictanet-bounces +meldon=symphony.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke Date: 01/30/2008 03:27 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day 1 of 5 - Challenges Posed by Post-ElectionViolence on ICT Organizations Mike, Indeed there is a lot that ICT folk can do to support humanitarian activities as you have rightly described below. In this regard I can report that The Kenya ICT Board and the BPO & CC Association are working on an initiative that will provide a solution in this regard. The solution is being finalised. To this end several presentations have already been made to potential target users /beneficiaries/sponsors and it has been received well not only as a short term solution for current humanitarian activities, but also as strategic project for the long-term. Some details of the concept will be shared during the KIF - ICT Board Luncheon tomorrow. Kind Regards, Eunice Mueni Kariuki Deputy CEO - Marketing Kenya ICT Board - CCK along Waiyaki Way PO Box 27150 - 00100 Nairobi, Kenya Tel: +254 20 2089062 Fax: +254 20 315147 alt. email/msn ID: eunice.kariuki@hotmail.com -----Original Message----- From: kictanet-bounces+eunicekariuki=ict.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eunicekariuki=ict.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of MEldon@symphony.co.ke Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 5:07 PM To: eunicekariuki@ict.go.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions; kictanet-bounces+meldon=symphony.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day 1 of 5 - Challenges Posed by Post-ElectionViolence on ICT Organisations Yesterday the Institute of Human Resource Management held a half day workshop on reconciliation and healing in the workplace. Find out more from Susan Kiama at: susan@tgagroupea.com There is much that ICT folk can do to assist with logistics, communications etc. I support the view that the Kictanet community focuses on that. Find out who needs what, and match it with offers. I have been working with Marcel to have KIF mount an e-marketplace of offers and needs, and I have put him in touch with religious and civil society groups. Do see how you can support that. Mike Eldon From: Alex Gakuru <alex.gakuru@yahoo.com> To: meldon@symphony.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: 01/28/2008 05:21 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day 1 of 5 - Challenges Posed by Post-ElectionViolence on ICT Organisations Ok, I was silent because Brain Longwe had earlier asked that the list be what it was meant to be. Since that position has changed, I want to start with "funny" joke. We have a saying in this regard. Have you been one of those who have tried or struggled to guess the tribe of the person sending emails to mailing lists? Please own up:) Last week we considered assessing the psychological consequences the crisis was having on consumers with regard to email and blogs posts. It turned out that some tried to "align" their views on e-mail senders whom they perceived (or imagined?) to be of the same or "friendly" tribes. Our conclusion, listers were not tribal, yet the stress, politics and media had forced them to seek tribal alignments. We were happy to discover that. Next we discussed tensions at workplace Telkom Kenya being our sample. We learnt how badly it had divided staff there. We overheard employee conversations! We wished companies would hold extra parties to lessen tensions at work. I have just noticed a ke-users lister has posted a very positive message. Their HR department today held an organisation-wide counselling session. That was excellent. All companies should start similar initiatives. Thanks Saidimu! Terrible for us because when we engaging Telcos and ISPs we never ask for okuyu, jang or kale etc tariffs or quality of service standards. Our engagement covers coast to lake, Turkana to Namanga, Garissa to Busia. At such moments, Information and Communications Consumer protection is more than ever necessary. We are battling rights of the people know on one hand, on the other we are urging responsibility to accompany freedom of expression, fighting against ban on live broadcasts also aware of the dangers of misuse, against sms sniffing very aware of misinformation dangers. We noted and appreciated the media's own intervention early and responsibility but also appreciate the role of government to protect everyone. This thread is on the challenges hence I stop there for now to hear others' lest I be accused of monopolising on opinion. I will be back;) Regards, Alex --- John Walubengo <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote: ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: meldon@symphony.co.ke Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/meldon%40symphony.co.ke _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: eunicekariuki@ict.go.ke Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/eunicekariuki%40ict.go . ke _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: meldon@symphony.co.ke Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/meldon%40symphony.co.ke
Bill, Indeed I debated within myself this question. In the midst of all the chaos I wondered: 1. Is it possible to remain focus and discuss ICT issues 2. Shouldnt we pause and review the issues after the chaos has subsided? 3. Are we doing the victims some injustice by talking ICT as they continue to die? I notice Brian has already commenced the discussion but please feel free to call for an injuction of the process and we shall go by the majority vote. walu. --- Bill Kagai <mediacorp.research@mediacorp.co.ke> wrote:
John, With all due respect I don't think this is the time to do a postmortem for we are still in the mess. This could be the opportunity for kictanet to move from policy oriented discussion to actual engagement on the ground.
A key role Kictanet could possibly play is ensuring that the facts on the ground are being reported accurately in our ICT media and maybe to strengthen those who are using ICTs to help solve this problem. www.ushahidi.com is one good example.
On Jan 28, 2008 8:33 AM, John Walubengo <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greetings all,
As mentioned last friday, we need to engage positively around the current crisis stalking our country. One suggested method was that we share experiences, impacts and how we are coping with the challenges occassioned. The overal aim is to enable members to learn from each other while emphasising the impact the crises continues to have on ICT organisations.
Today is Day 1 and from the program below. We have 2days to share the challenges posed by the Post Election Violence on ICT organisations.
I know quite abit is already shared in the press but no harm done if a brief re-run on our list for the benefit of those who may have missed out. So feel free to speak as (Telco) Operators, Consumers,ICT Service Providers(BPO,ISPs,etc) Media, Academia or all of the above ;-)
walu. ~~~~~~~~Full Program~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~Objectives~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Share the Challenges posed by the Post-election Violence on ICT organisations Share current interventions employed to overcome these Challenges Quantify the Impact of Post-election violence on ICT organisations Way forward and conclusions
Deliverables. eWorkshop Report containing the deliberations, consensus and action points arising from the online discussions.
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John, It's not that am opposed to the discussion per se. I just feel its time to move things a notch higher and engage positively with the problem rather than just discuss passively so that we end up being part of the solution. As an example, Red Cross has been sending signals that they overwhelmed with logistics in reaching those in need of aid. How can ICT/Kictanet help in mapping the regions, developing databases of resources versus populations affected etc. Can we maybe contact Red Cross and ask for their requirements then help them out??? Bill On Jan 28, 2008 10:31 AM, John Walubengo <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Bill,
Indeed I debated within myself this question. In the midst of all the chaos I wondered:
1. Is it possible to remain focus and discuss ICT issues 2. Shouldnt we pause and review the issues after the chaos has subsided? 3. Are we doing the victims some injustice by talking ICT as they continue to die?
I notice Brian has already commenced the discussion but please feel free to call for an injuction of the process and we shall go by the majority vote.
walu.
--- Bill Kagai <mediacorp.research@mediacorp.co.ke> wrote:
John, With all due respect I don't think this is the time to do a postmortem for we are still in the mess. This could be the opportunity for kictanet to move from policy oriented discussion to actual engagement on the ground.
I think this is a great idea and should be included amongst proposals on actions the ICT community can take as part of the industry response. Brian On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 10:54:10 +0300, Bill Kagai <mediacorp.research@mediacorp.co.ke> wrote:
John, It's not that am opposed to the discussion per se. I just feel its time to move things a notch higher and engage positively with the problem rather than just discuss passively so that we end up being part of the solution. As an example, Red Cross has been sending signals that they overwhelmed with logistics in reaching those in need of aid. How can ICT/Kictanet help in mapping the regions, developing databases of resources versus populations affected etc. Can we maybe contact Red Cross and ask for their requirements then help them out???
Bill
On Jan 28, 2008 10:31 AM, John Walubengo <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Bill,
Indeed I debated within myself this question. In the midst of all the chaos I wondered:
1. Is it possible to remain focus and discuss ICT issues 2. Shouldnt we pause and review the issues after the chaos has subsided? 3. Are we doing the victims some injustice by talking ICT as they continue to die?
I notice Brian has already commenced the discussion but please feel free to call for an injuction of the process and we shall go by the majority vote.
walu.
--- Bill Kagai <mediacorp.research@mediacorp.co.ke> wrote:
John, With all due respect I don't think this is the time to do a postmortem for we are still in the mess. This could be the opportunity for kictanet to move from policy oriented discussion to actual engagement on the ground.
participants (8)
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Alex Gakuru -
Bernard Mwenda -
Bill Kagai -
brian -
Eunice Kariuki -
John Walubengo -
MEldon＠symphony.co.ke -
Michael Joseph