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Very frustrating frequent blackouts, rain or no rain. Bumper sticker doing rounds 'kenya hakuna matata, hakuna maji, hakuna stima, hakuna gas' Best Alice -----Original Message----- From: aki <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 08:17:12 To: Skunkworks forum<[email protected]> Reply-To: Skunkworks Mailing List <[email protected]> Subject: [Skunkworks] <OT> : No Electricity, No Fuel, No Cooking gas! I need my hot coffee or need some answers..... _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list [email protected] ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://orion.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke

Yup. This is when the brand promise of KPLC or is it KP falls flat! Did they just rebrand? Someone should tell them that Brand Equity doesn't come from advertising but from the right actions! Ali Hussein Managing Partner Azania Technology Group +254 773/713 601113 Sent from my iPhone On Dec 5, 2011, at 8:22 AM, [email protected] wrote:
Very frustrating frequent blackouts, rain or no rain. Bumper sticker doing rounds 'kenya hakuna matata, hakuna maji, hakuna stima, hakuna gas'
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even their pre paid meter uploading system via mpesa iko na blackout- guys purchased since Friday but have not received confirmation of units form KPLC. I have called them enough times- " we are working on it" has been the response- why cant they return the money victor ________________________________________ From: [email protected] [[email protected]] on behalf of Ali Hussein [[email protected]] Sent: 05 December 2011 05:28 To: Victor Bwire Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] [Skunkworks] <OT> : No Electricity, No Fuel, No Cooking gas! I need my hot coffee or need some answers..... Yup. This is when the brand promise of KPLC or is it KP falls flat! Did they just rebrand? Someone should tell them that Brand Equity doesn't come from advertising but from the right actions! Ali Hussein Managing Partner Azania Technology Group +254 773/713 601113 Sent from my iPhone On Dec 5, 2011, at 8:22 AM, [email protected] wrote:
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Not only did they rebrand...they even won a certain award for the re-brand campaigns they carried out! How ironic! Kind regards, NYATICHI NYASANI-SITATI Corporate Business Executive Kulahappy Ltd. TEL: +254 020 250 9283 MOB: +254 721 611660 / +254 733 788571 Kitale Lane - No. 695, off Dennis Pritt Rd P.O. Box 4307, 00100 Nairobi, Kenya Email: [email protected] [email protected] www.kulahappy.com ----------------------- Quoting Ali Hussein <[email protected]>:
Yup. This is when the brand promise of KPLC or is it KP falls flat! Did they just rebrand? Someone should tell them that Brand Equity doesn't come from advertising but from the right actions!
Ali Hussein Managing Partner Azania Technology Group +254 773/713 601113
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Very frustrating frequent blackouts, rain or no rain. Bumper sticker doing rounds 'kenya hakuna matata, hakuna maji, hakuna stima, hakuna gas'
Best Alice -----Original Message----- From: aki <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 08:17:12 To: Skunkworks forum<[email protected]> Reply-To: Skunkworks Mailing List <[email protected]> Subject: [Skunkworks] <OT> : No Electricity, No Fuel, No Cooking gas! I need my hot coffee or need some answers.....
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Not only did they rebrand...they even won a certain award for the re-brand campaigns they carried out! How ironic! Kind regards, NYATICHI NYASANI-SITATI Corporate Business Executive Kulahappy Ltd. TEL: +254 020 250 9283 MOB: +254 721 611660 / +254 733 788571 Kitale Lane - No. 695, off Dennis Pritt Rd P.O. Box 4307, 00100 Nairobi, Kenya Email: [email protected] [email protected] www.kulahappy.com ----------------------- Quoting Ali Hussein <[email protected]>:
Yup. This is when the brand promise of KPLC or is it KP falls flat! Did they just rebrand? Someone should tell them that Brand Equity doesn't come from advertising but from the right actions!
Ali Hussein Managing Partner Azania Technology Group +254 773/713 601113
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Very frustrating frequent blackouts, rain or no rain. Bumper sticker doing rounds 'kenya hakuna matata, hakuna maji, hakuna stima, hakuna gas'
Best Alice -----Original Message----- From: aki <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 08:17:12 To: Skunkworks forum<[email protected]> Reply-To: Skunkworks Mailing List <[email protected]> Subject: [Skunkworks] <OT> : No Electricity, No Fuel, No Cooking gas! I need my hot coffee or need some answers.....
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Kenya Power is an interseting organization - I was in Bungoma last Friday when I remembered I had not paid my bill. Fearing disconnection (they are efficient with that) I went to their office only to be told that the office was suffering a blackout, their computers were off, and thus I could not get assistance. I was told to try another time or go and pay cash at the Post Office. The joke now is that KPLC stands for Kenya Paraffin Lamps and Candles! Will we reach that destination called Vision 2030 with such a partner? On Monday, December 05, 2011 5:22 AM, [email protected] wrote:
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When i was in primary school my teacher told me look after pennies and the pounds will look after themselves. If we are unable to achieve basic things like reliable power, steady fuel and gas supplies, roads that last more than 3 months, title deeds that are not denied by the same government that issued them, etc, how are we meant to achieve Vision 2030? On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 8:22 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
Very frustrating frequent blackouts, rain or no rain. Bumper sticker doing rounds 'kenya hakuna matata, hakuna maji, hakuna stima, hakuna gas'
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At some point we did not want government in the management of utilities. We wanted private sector. So fuel, gas and power became privatized. I have not had power for the past two weeks. The small generator I have cannot sustain the energy requirements for my consumption. That is why I advocate for more energy production. This will force KPLC to begin seriously to market the power and make customers happy. In the absence of excess power they become complacent and guard profits. As for private sector in Kenya, we have problems. We cannot complain about the Government and private sector in the same sentence. It means we have all failed. We must accept this if we need change. If government had issued the titles, the master file would have been changed. It was not even as unscrupulous people fleeced fellow Kenyans. When tenders are given to foreign companies we complain that local companies are discriminated. These locals have no morals and no shame. Let us admit that we have all failed and seek divine intervention. Let us embrace a value system that ostracizes those who go against the norms. Even the most corrupt have the audacity to point fingers at government and we listen to them as we do with saints. We must have the courage to remind such people where they acquired their wealth from. We are just about to go to elections when practically every candidate cannot explain the source of their wealth. Do you really expect change from such rot? Ndemo. Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: "Rad!" <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected]: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 10:19:45 To: <[email protected]> Cc: KICTANet<[email protected]> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [Skunkworks] <OT> : No Electricity, No Fuel, No Cooking gas! I need my hot coffee or need some answers..... _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list [email protected] http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bitange%40jambo.co.ke The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.

Under basic economic analysis, it makes more sense for government to run utilities that the private sector. They should be run based on rate of return regulation. Even the smallest, most pathetic town in the US manages their utilities better than Nairobi. The utilities were put under private sector control during the world bank frenzy for liberalization in the late 1990s. I am so sorry you are suffering like this. I find no electricity and no water nearly unbearable. Reminds me of my time working at Kabarak University. WMB On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 12:06 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
At some point we did not want government in the management of utilities. We wanted private sector. So fuel, gas and power became privatized. I have not had power for the past two weeks. The small generator I have cannot sustain the energy requirements for my consumption. That is why I advocate for more energy production. This will force KPLC to begin seriously to market the power and make customers happy. In the absence of excess power they become complacent and guard profits.
As for private sector in Kenya, we have problems. We cannot complain about the Government and private sector in the same sentence. It means we have all failed. We must accept this if we need change. If government had issued the titles, the master file would have been changed. It was not even as unscrupulous people fleeced fellow Kenyans. When tenders are given to foreign companies we complain that local companies are discriminated. These locals have no morals and no shame.
Let us admit that we have all failed and seek divine intervention. Let us embrace a value system that ostracizes those who go against the norms. Even the most corrupt have the audacity to point fingers at government and we listen to them as we do with saints. We must have the courage to remind such people where they acquired their wealth from. We are just about to go to elections when practically every candidate cannot explain the source of their wealth. Do you really expect change from such rot?
Ndemo.
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When looked at from a different angle, it seriously begs question what the energy regulatory body's role is in ensuring energy efficiency for the nation besides price hikes on Electricity, Petroleum products etc, almost at every turn.. The pertinent question is, does the ERC's overall role have the consumer at heart? So far from what we have seen, no one is sure. Who has oversight on regulatory bodies.. Harry From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of warigia bowman Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 1:14 PM To: [email protected] Cc: KICTANet Subject: Re: [kictanet] [Skunkworks] <OT> : No Electricity, No Fuel, No Cooking gas! I need my hot coffee or need some answers..... Under basic economic analysis, it makes more sense for government to run utilities that the private sector. They should be run based on rate of return regulation. Even the smallest, most pathetic town in the US manages their utilities better than Nairobi. The utilities were put under private sector control during the world bank frenzy for liberalization in the late 1990s. I am so sorry you are suffering like this. I find no electricity and no water nearly unbearable. Reminds me of my time working at Kabarak University. WMB On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 12:06 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: At some point we did not want government in the management of utilities. We wanted private sector. So fuel, gas and power became privatized. I have not had power for the past two weeks. The small generator I have cannot sustain the energy requirements for my consumption. That is why I advocate for more energy production. This will force KPLC to begin seriously to market the power and make customers happy. In the absence of excess power they become complacent and guard profits. As for private sector in Kenya, we have problems. We cannot complain about the Government and private sector in the same sentence. It means we have all failed. We must accept this if we need change. If government had issued the titles, the master file would have been changed. It was not even as unscrupulous people fleeced fellow Kenyans. When tenders are given to foreign companies we complain that local companies are discriminated. These locals have no morals and no shame. Let us admit that we have all failed and seek divine intervention. Let us embrace a value system that ostracizes those who go against the norms. Even the most corrupt have the audacity to point fingers at government and we listen to them as we do with saints. We must have the courage to remind such people where they acquired their wealth from. We are just about to go to elections when practically every candidate cannot explain the source of their wealth. Do you really expect change from such rot? Ndemo. Sent from my BlackBerryR -----Original Message----- From: "Rad!" <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected]: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 10:19:45 To: <[email protected]> Cc: KICTANet<[email protected]> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [Skunkworks] <OT> : No Electricity, No Fuel, No Cooking gas! I need my hot coffee or need some answers..... _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list [email protected] http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bitange%40jambo.co.ke The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list [email protected] http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/warigia%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.

I think we should borrow the learnings from the Telco sector and use them to liberalize the energy sector. As for the rot in our society I'm afraid that is still a Journey long to be travelled. Let us not however despair as a journey of a thousand miles starts with one step. Dr. Ndemo, the fact that a senior Govt official can also go without power for two weeks tells me (in a cynical kind of way...) that we have at least 'democratized' non-delivery of services. Wariga, I partially agree with your assertion that Government should be involved in power distribution/generation. A dose of the private sector will also help. I believe the way forward is to have a competitor to KP. You can't liberalise a sector and then only have one distributor - its nonsensical and defeats the whole purpose of liberalization. Dr.Ndemo gave us a lesson a few weeks ago about the need for redundancy in the availability of power and how critical it is to the economic development of any country. We cannot belabor that point further. So the question is what do we do going forward? I have abit of a contrarian view. Not everything is lost. I would also like us to celebrate our small victories so that we can be encouraged to continue moving forward and contribute to making this country great. Nation building must be tempered by personal sacrifice. The rights of a few must be sometimes sacrificed so that the many can have more rights. BUT as we do this we must ensure that our Core - the Operating System - is virus free. Free from foreign disruptive objects, from infections both self inflicted and the ones introduced by others. The biggest problem I believe facing us is the total breakdown in our systems of differentiating good from bad. This is part of the operating system I'm talking about. As Tom Friedman put it in his book, the world is flat, if your operating system is corrupted how do you even get into the computer to access your productivity tools like word, excel and the rest? I'm afraid if we don't fix this then all the gains we have made - freedom of speech, liberalizing our economy so that for example 60+ percent of Kenyans have access to mobile phones will be for nought. Ali Hussein Managing Partner Azania Technology Group +254 773/713 601113 Sent from my iPhone On Dec 5, 2011, at 1:14 PM, warigia bowman <[email protected]> wrote:
Under basic economic analysis, it makes more sense for government to run utilities that the private sector. They should be run based on rate of return regulation.
Even the smallest, most pathetic town in the US manages their utilities better than Nairobi.
The utilities were put under private sector control during the world bank frenzy for liberalization in the late 1990s.
I am so sorry you are suffering like this.
I find no electricity and no water nearly unbearable. Reminds me of my time working at Kabarak University.
WMB
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 12:06 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: At some point we did not want government in the management of utilities. We wanted private sector. So fuel, gas and power became privatized. I have not had power for the past two weeks. The small generator I have cannot sustain the energy requirements for my consumption. That is why I advocate for more energy production. This will force KPLC to begin seriously to market the power and make customers happy. In the absence of excess power they become complacent and guard profits.
As for private sector in Kenya, we have problems. We cannot complain about the Government and private sector in the same sentence. It means we have all failed. We must accept this if we need change. If government had issued the titles, the master file would have been changed. It was not even as unscrupulous people fleeced fellow Kenyans. When tenders are given to foreign companies we complain that local companies are discriminated. These locals have no morals and no shame.
Let us admit that we have all failed and seek divine intervention. Let us embrace a value system that ostracizes those who go against the norms. Even the most corrupt have the audacity to point fingers at government and we listen to them as we do with saints. We must have the courage to remind such people where they acquired their wealth from. We are just about to go to elections when practically every candidate cannot explain the source of their wealth. Do you really expect change from such rot?
Ndemo.
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I am hopeful that the change we seek in Kenya shall happen one day. In my perspective, this change shall not come from every citizen willingly. This change shall come through force, through dedication and zeal of a national leader who shall exhibit the qualities we desire and diligently guide the people through to a new national character. Something like the style of Mao Zedong of China! If we are lucky to get such a leader after the 2012 polls, then that will be great. Any other method may as well succeed, but after many many decades to come. On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 5:20 AM, Ali Hussein <[email protected]> wrote:
I think we should borrow the learnings from the Telco sector and use them to liberalize the energy sector.
As for the rot in our society I'm afraid that is still a Journey long to be travelled. Let us not however despair as a journey of a thousand miles starts with one step.
Dr. Ndemo, the fact that a senior Govt official can also go without power for two weeks tells me (in a cynical kind of way...) that we have at least 'democratized' non-delivery of services.
Wariga, I partially agree with your assertion that Government should be involved in power distribution/generation. A dose of the private sector will also help. I believe the way forward is to have a competitor to KP. You can't liberalise a sector and then only have one distributor - its nonsensical and defeats the whole purpose of liberalization.
Dr.Ndemo gave us a lesson a few weeks ago about the need for redundancy in the availability of power and how critical it is to the economic development of any country. We cannot belabor that point further.
So the question is what do we do going forward?
I have abit of a contrarian view. Not everything is lost. I would also like us to celebrate our small victories so that we can be encouraged to continue moving forward and contribute to making this country great.
Nation building must be tempered by personal sacrifice. The rights of a few must be sometimes sacrificed so that the many can have more rights. BUT as we do this we must ensure that our Core - the Operating System - is virus free. Free from foreign disruptive objects, from infections both self inflicted and the ones introduced by others.
The biggest problem I believe facing us is the total breakdown in our systems of differentiating good from bad. This is part of the operating system I'm talking about. As Tom Friedman put it in his book, the world is flat, if your operating system is corrupted how do you even get into the computer to access your productivity tools like word, excel and the rest?
I'm afraid if we don't fix this then all the gains we have made - freedom of speech, liberalizing our economy so that for example 60+ percent of Kenyans have access to mobile phones will be for nought.
Ali Hussein Managing Partner Azania Technology Group +254 773/713 601113
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On Dec 5, 2011, at 1:14 PM, warigia bowman <[email protected]> wrote:
Under basic economic analysis, it makes more sense for government to run utilities that the private sector. They should be run based on rate of return regulation.
Even the smallest, most pathetic town in the US manages their utilities better than Nairobi.
The utilities were put under private sector control during the world bank frenzy for liberalization in the late 1990s.
I am so sorry you are suffering like this.
I find no electricity and no water nearly unbearable. Reminds me of my time working at Kabarak University.
WMB
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 12:06 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
At some point we did not want government in the management of utilities. We wanted private sector. So fuel, gas and power became privatized. I have not had power for the past two weeks. The small generator I have cannot sustain the energy requirements for my consumption. That is why I advocate for more energy production. This will force KPLC to begin seriously to market the power and make customers happy. In the absence of excess power they become complacent and guard profits.
As for private sector in Kenya, we have problems. We cannot complain about the Government and private sector in the same sentence. It means we have all failed. We must accept this if we need change. If government had issued the titles, the master file would have been changed. It was not even as unscrupulous people fleeced fellow Kenyans. When tenders are given to foreign companies we complain that local companies are discriminated. These locals have no morals and no shame.
Let us admit that we have all failed and seek divine intervention. Let us embrace a value system that ostracizes those who go against the norms. Even the most corrupt have the audacity to point fingers at government and we listen to them as we do with saints. We must have the courage to remind such people where they acquired their wealth from. We are just about to go to elections when practically every candidate cannot explain the source of their wealth. Do you really expect change from such rot?
Ndemo.
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After what happened in Kenya 2006-2008, Kenyans will not tolerate any leader who attempts to use force on them. Such a leader is likely to be "Gadaffi'dead"... We are on the right track - creating open / public channels (institutions, associations and information systems) to vent our public grievances and to restrict those proven guilty (of corruption in the public or private sector) from holding public office or from doing business with government. That is what has lacked in the Arab world. Now they have "democratized" violence in that part of the world. On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Philip Adar <[email protected]> wrote:
I am hopeful that the change we seek in Kenya shall happen one day. In my perspective, this change shall not come from every citizen willingly. This change shall come through force, through dedication and zeal of a national leader who shall exhibit the qualities we desire and diligently guide the people through to a new national character. Something like the style of Mao Zedong of China!
If we are lucky to get such a leader after the 2012 polls, then that will be great. Any other method may as well succeed, but after many many decades to come.

In Africa we want change, but few understand the cost of change and are willing to pay for it. Change demands more, the same way freedom demands more responsibility. As for Kenya Power, isn't it weird that we all complain, but it is only the island of Jersey that is concerned with how a Kenyan Parastatal was managed in the past ?

Not very long ago, we had a Telecommunication monopoly called Jambonet, that was meant to control internet connectivity for the whole country. Until some valiant Telecommunication lobbyists from the private sector, including the likes of Mr. Richard Bell and the rest fought for space in this industry, we would not be enjoying what we now enjoy. In a little less than 10 years, see now where things stand.. Competitiveness breeds efficiencies.. Am afraid, the energy sector needs a complete overhaul.. Question, where do we start..? I believe we can take this beyond the rants and raves on lists. Harry From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dennis Kioko Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 2:02 PM To: [email protected] Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] [Skunkworks] <OT> : No Electricity, No Fuel, No Cooking gas! I need my hot coffee or need some answers..... In Africa we want change, but few understand the cost of change and are willing to pay for it. Change demands more, the same way freedom demands more responsibility. As for Kenya Power, isn't it weird that we all complain, but it is only the island of Jersey that is concerned with how a Kenyan Parastatal was managed in the past ?

There is some stupid law somewhere which gives KPLC the monoploy in power distribution. Note the word "distribution", because that is what KPLC does, while another company called KENGEN does the power "generation". Personally, I have never quite understood why KPLC should be given exclusive distribution rights (entrenced in a national statute) on a commodity it doesn't "produce", especially in a utility commodity. The "producer" can do the distribution throught its own networks, thereby (possibly) reducing the costs, even. No? So, instead of wasting time on anything else, I believe we should all focus our energies on finding a way to get this stupid law out of the way. That is what we should be discussing. I don't remember if Mugo Kibati said that this law be repealed. On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 14:53, Harry Delano <[email protected]> wrote:
Not very long ago, we had a Telecommunication monopoly called Jambonet, that was meant to control****
internet connectivity for the whole country. Until some valiant Telecommunication lobbyists from the ****
private sector, including the likes of Mr. Richard Bell and the rest fought for space in this industry, we****
would not be enjoying what we now enjoy. In a little less than 10 years, see now where things stand..****
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Competitiveness breeds efficiencies..****
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Am afraid, the energy sector needs a complete overhaul.. ****
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Question, where do we start..? I believe we can take this beyond the rants and raves on lists.****
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Harry****
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*From:* [email protected][mailto: [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Dennis Kioko *Sent:* Tuesday, December 06, 2011 2:02 PM *To:* [email protected] *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] [Skunkworks] <OT> : No Electricity, No Fuel, No Cooking gas! I need my hot coffee or need some answers.....****
** **
In Africa we want change, but few understand the cost of change and are willing to pay for it.
Change demands more, the same way freedom demands more responsibility.
As for Kenya Power, isn't it weird that we all complain, but it is only the island of Jersey that is concerned with how a Kenyan Parastatal was managed in the past ? ****
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On 6 December 2011 15:03, Odhiambo Washington <[email protected]> wrote:
There is some stupid law somewhere which gives KPLC the monoploy in power distribution. Note the word "distribution", because that is what KPLC does, while another company called KENGEN does the power "generation".
I thought the law was repealed leading to community power initiatives and Kenya Power outsourcing power line construction?
Personally, I have never quite understood why KPLC should be given exclusive distribution rights (entrenced in a national statute) on a commodity it doesn't "produce", especially in a utility commodity. The "producer" can do the distribution throught its own networks, thereby (possibly) reducing the costs, even. No?
So, instead of wasting time on anything else, I believe we should all focus our energies on finding a way to get this stupid law out of the way. That is what we should be discussing.
I don't remember if Mugo Kibati said that this law be repealed.
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 14:53, Harry Delano <[email protected]> wrote:
Not very long ago, we had a Telecommunication monopoly called Jambonet, that was meant to control****
internet connectivity for the whole country. Until some valiant Telecommunication lobbyists from the ****
private sector, including the likes of Mr. Richard Bell and the rest fought for space in this industry, we****
would not be enjoying what we now enjoy. In a little less than 10 years, see now where things stand..****
** **
Competitiveness breeds efficiencies..****
** **
Am afraid, the energy sector needs a complete overhaul.. ****
** **
Question, where do we start..? I believe we can take this beyond the rants and raves on lists.****
** **
Harry****
** **
** **
*From:* [email protected][mailto: [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Dennis Kioko *Sent:* Tuesday, December 06, 2011 2:02 PM *To:* [email protected] *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] [Skunkworks] <OT> : No Electricity, No Fuel, No Cooking gas! I need my hot coffee or need some answers.....****
** **
In Africa we want change, but few understand the cost of change and are willing to pay for it.
Change demands more, the same way freedom demands more responsibility.
As for Kenya Power, isn't it weird that we all complain, but it is only the island of Jersey that is concerned with how a Kenyan Parastatal was managed in the past ? ****
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On that very good note, anyone who can hook us ( as a list) to one Mr. Mugo Kibati please... Could he be willing to subscribe..? A lot of productive discussions here go down the drain without anything tangible getting done about it.. Secretariat, pse…? Harry From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Odhiambo Washington Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 3:03 PM To: [email protected] Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Possible Spam : RE: [Skunkworks] <OT> : No Electricity, No Fuel, No Cooking gas! I need my hot coffee or need some answers..... There is some stupid law somewhere which gives KPLC the monoploy in power distribution. Note the word "distribution", because that is what KPLC does, while another company called KENGEN does the power "generation". Personally, I have never quite understood why KPLC should be given exclusive distribution rights (entrenced in a national statute) on a commodity it doesn't "produce", especially in a utility commodity. The "producer" can do the distribution throught its own networks, thereby (possibly) reducing the costs, even. No? So, instead of wasting time on anything else, I believe we should all focus our energies on finding a way to get this stupid law out of the way. That is what we should be discussing. I don't remember if Mugo Kibati said that this law be repealed. On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 14:53, Harry Delano <[email protected]> wrote: Not very long ago, we had a Telecommunication monopoly called Jambonet, that was meant to control internet connectivity for the whole country. Until some valiant Telecommunication lobbyists from the private sector, including the likes of Mr. Richard Bell and the rest fought for space in this industry, we would not be enjoying what we now enjoy. In a little less than 10 years, see now where things stand.. Competitiveness breeds efficiencies.. Am afraid, the energy sector needs a complete overhaul.. Question, where do we start..? I believe we can take this beyond the rants and raves on lists. Harry From: [email protected] [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry <mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bharry> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Dennis Kioko Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 2:02 PM To: [email protected] Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] [Skunkworks] <OT> : No Electricity, No Fuel, No Cooking gas! I need my hot coffee or need some answers..... In Africa we want change, but few understand the cost of change and are willing to pay for it. Change demands more, the same way freedom demands more responsibility. As for Kenya Power, isn't it weird that we all complain, but it is only the island of Jersey that is concerned with how a Kenyan Parastatal was managed in the past ? _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list [email protected] http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/odhiambo%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. Please consider the environment before printing this email.

In economics, there is a general consensus that electricity is most efficiently run as a government monopoly. However, in this case, given that the administration is so terrible, I think a strong case can be made for competition in electricity provision in Kenya. Often, small towns have their own electricity cooperatives. This is a possible model. Yours, Rigia Harry
*From:* [email protected][mailto: [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Odhiambo Washington *Sent:* Tuesday, December 06, 2011 3:03 PM *To:* [email protected] *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Possible Spam : RE: [Skunkworks] <OT> : No Electricity, No Fuel, No Cooking gas! I need my hot coffee or need some answers.....
There is some stupid law somewhere which gives KPLC the monoploy in power distribution. Note the word "distribution", because that is what KPLC does, while another company called KENGEN does the power "generation".
Personally, I have never quite understood why KPLC should be given exclusive distribution rights (entrenced in a national statute) on a commodity it doesn't "produce", especially in a utility commodity. The "producer" can do the distribution throught its own networks, thereby (possibly) reducing the costs, even. No?
So, instead of wasting time on anything else, I believe we should all focus our energies on finding a way to get this stupid law out of the way. That is what we should be discussing.
I don't remember if Mugo Kibati said that this law be repealed.
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 14:53, Harry Delano <[email protected]> wrote:
Not very long ago, we had a Telecommunication monopoly called Jambonet, that was meant to control
internet connectivity for the whole country. Until some valiant Telecommunication lobbyists from the
private sector, including the likes of Mr. Richard Bell and the rest fought for space in this industry, we
would not be enjoying what we now enjoy. In a little less than 10 years, see now where things stand..
Competitiveness breeds efficiencies..
Am afraid, the energy sector needs a complete overhaul..
Question, where do we start..? I believe we can take this beyond the rants and raves on lists.
Harry
*From:* [email protected][mailto: [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Dennis Kioko *Sent:* Tuesday, December 06, 2011 2:02 PM *To:* [email protected] *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] [Skunkworks] <OT> : No Electricity, No Fuel, No Cooking gas! I need my hot coffee or need some answers.....
In Africa we want change, but few understand the cost of change and are willing to pay for it.
Change demands more, the same way freedom demands more responsibility.
As for Kenya Power, isn't it weird that we all complain, but it is only the island of Jersey that is concerned with how a Kenyan Parastatal was managed in the past ?
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Mugo has accepted to be Kictanet guest for a week or so. Ndemo. Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: "Harry Delano" <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected]: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 15:12:57 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'<[email protected]> Subject: [kictanet] Possible Spam : RE: Possible Spam : RE: [Skunkworks] OT : No Electricity, No Fuel, No Cooking gas! I need my hot coffee or need some answers..... _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list [email protected] http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bitange%40jambo.co.ke The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.

Thank you Bw Ps, and Alice Best, for facilitating the inclusion of Mr. Mugo Kibati on the discussion forum...? Now listers, here is a chance to turn most of the constructive discussions we have had here, ( Am avoiding calling them rants and raves) into something tangible, with Mr.Kibati - heading Vision 2030 in attendance. Grace, pse get us started off... I for one, would like to see the Energy sector overhauled. Instead of becoming an engine to drive the vision, it's almost becoming some excess baggage... What is the vision 2030 team doing to ensure for example the sorry monopoly of KPLC (KP), is broken down for competitiveness to creep in and breed efficiencies..? Why is ERC almost moribund, and seems to have any teeth to help the country. Who has oversight over the regulatory body..? Harry -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 7:32 PM To: [email protected] Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: Re: [kictanet] Possible Spam : RE: Possible Spam : RE: [Skunkworks] <OT> : No Electricity, No Fuel, No Cooking gas! I need my hot coffee or need some answers..... Mugo has accepted to be Kictanet guest for a week or so. Ndemo. Sent from my BlackBerryR -----Original Message----- From: "Harry Delano" <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected]: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 15:12:57 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'<[email protected]> Subject: [kictanet] Possible Spam : RE: Possible Spam : RE: [Skunkworks] OT : No Electricity, No Fuel, No Cooking gas! I need my hot coffee or need some answers..... _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list [email protected] http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bitange%40jambo.co.ke The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.

Well said Bwana Ndemo. You have hit the nail on the head. Kenyans talk about using Kenyans, buy Kenyan. But the work is always shoddy, no matter what sector of business, the products are produced sub-standard. The other problem is that we as the citizens don't really have an avenue to vent and try and make a difference. It sometimes works when issues are put in the press, but not enough to make the difference. What do we do then??? It is a truly sad and frightening place our Kenya at this time. We have to really pray for our country and leaders and even for us that should get up and make a difference. To be bold and allow God to lead us ahead. Those with integrity should think about standing for parliament and country posts and that would be the first step in change. cheers Lizette On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 1:06 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
At some point we did not want government in the management of utilities. We wanted private sector. So fuel, gas and power became privatized. I have not had power for the past two weeks. The small generator I have cannot sustain the energy requirements for my consumption. That is why I advocate for more energy production. This will force KPLC to begin seriously to market the power and make customers happy. In the absence of excess power they become complacent and guard profit As for private sector in Kenya, we have problems. We cannot complain about the Government and private sector in the same sentence. It means we have all failed. We must accept this if we need change. If government had issued the titles, the master file would have been changed. It was not even as unscrupulous people fleeced fellow Kenyans. When tenders are given to foreign companies we complain that local companies are discriminated. These locals have no morals and no shame.
Let us admit that we have all failed and seek divine intervention. Let us embrace a value system that ostracizes those who go against the norms. Even the most corrupt have the audacity to point fingers at government and we listen to them as we do with saints. We must have the courage to remind such people where they acquired their wealth from. We are just about to go to elections when practically every candidate cannot explain the source of their wealth. Do you really expect change from such rot?
Ndemo.
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Lizette, Am sorry but i have to disagree with you implying that all kenyan work is shody. There are kenyan companies and individuals doing a great job considering the resources at their disposal. Although its true there are people doing shoddy work in some cases, we cannot rubbish everyone. regards Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: Lizette Kraft <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 16:23:19 To: <[email protected]> Cc: KICTANet<[email protected]> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [Skunkworks] <OT> : No Electricity, No Fuel, No Cooking gas! I need my hot coffee or need some answers..... _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list [email protected] http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bkioko%40bernsoft.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.

I don't doubt that there are good Kenyan companies doing good jobs, but unfortunately with regard to the issues we are discussing at hand, is what I am referring to. The proof is all around you. I wasn't generalising. regards On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 4:24 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
Lizette,
Am sorry but i have to disagree with you implying that all kenyan work is shody.
There are kenyan companies and individuals doing a great job considering the resources at their disposal.
Although its true there are people doing shoddy work in some cases, we cannot rubbish everyone.
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On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 4:24 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
Lizette,
Am sorry but i have to disagree with you implying that all kenyan work is shody.
There are kenyan companies and individuals doing a great job considering the resources at their disposal.
Although its true there are people doing shoddy work in some cases, we cannot rubbish everyone.
Bernard, I agree with you, the problem is that such companies are the exception, rather than the norm... That's where the problem is. Our transport system is a mess. Education, same thing. We lack a culture of excellence. It's OK to deliver a project late without any consequences. It's ok to get to work late. It's OK to deliver projects late etc etc etc... I was miffed over the weekend when a 'customer care' agent at a leading telco had the gall to dismiss me as having a non issue, when I was unable to make any calls. Basically, in Kenya, you have to beg someone to give them money... -- Warm Regards, Phares Kaboro Kariuki

Suspect noble + selfish desires for positions in the new constitution will cause development in Kenya. Lawyers / Judges seeking to join the Supreme Court will misbehave less if not perform better to ensure they are marked as reformers. Ethical progressives in the Judiciary -- at least the truly civil part of it that is not limited to one gender and religion -- are likely to restrain / restrict many who trouble us in Kenya. Any commission(er) keeping qualified Kenyans from public office due to their ethnicity (not corruption) is likely to end up in court. On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 1:06 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
At some point we did not want government in the management of utilities. We wanted private sector. So fuel, gas and power became privatized. I have not had power for the past two weeks. The small generator I have cannot sustain the energy requirements for my consumption. That is why I advocate for more energy production. This will force KPLC to begin seriously to market the power and make customers happy. In the absence of excess power they become complacent and guard profits.
As for private sector in Kenya, we have problems. We cannot complain about the Government and private sector in the same sentence. It means we have all failed. We must accept this if we need change. If government had issued the titles, the master file would have been changed. It was not even as unscrupulous people fleeced fellow Kenyans. When tenders are given to foreign companies we complain that local companies are discriminated. These locals have no morals and no shame.
Let us admit that we have all failed and seek divine intervention. Let us embrace a value system that ostracizes those who go against the norms. Even the most corrupt have the audacity to point fingers at government and we listen to them as we do with saints. We must have the courage to remind such people where they acquired their wealth from. We are just about to go to elections when practically every candidate cannot explain the source of their wealth. Do you really expect change from such rot?
Ndemo.
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participants (16)
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Ali Hussein
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alice@apc.org
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bitange@jambo.co.ke
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bkioko@bernsoft.com
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Dennis Kioko
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Harry Delano
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Lizette Kraft
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Odhiambo Washington
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Phares Kariuki
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Philip Adar
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Rad!
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S.M. Muraya
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tnyasani@kulahappy.com
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Victor Bwire
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warigia bowman
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waudo siganga