Interesting developement
Listers, Listening to Hope Fm a debate on Safaricom jamming the phone signal in prisons in Partnership with Kenya prisons, is this move legal if it is true or is it a roadside declaration? The intended benefit notwithstanding? Best regards -- Sent from my mobile device Barrack O. Otieno Afriregister Ltd (Kenya) www.afrire <http://www.afriregister.com>gister.bi, www.afriregister.com<http://www.afriergister.com> <http://www.afriregister.com>ICANN accredited registrar +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 18:00, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>wrote:
Listers,
Listening to Hope Fm a debate on Safaricom jamming the phone signal in prisons in Partnership with Kenya prisons, is this move legal if it is true or is it a roadside declaration? The intended benefit notwithstanding?
@Barrack, The answer to this is quite simple: Prisoners/convicts are not allowed by law to have mobile phones in the cells. Even at the Police Station level, suspects detained in cells are not allowed such luxury as keeping any personal property with them in the cells, bar for the clothing they have on their bodies. It's therefore obvious that a prisoner having a mobile phone in the detention/remand facility is doing so illegally, perhaps by some collusion from the warders. I believe the Prisons Dept is admitting that the problem is not easy for them to address and as such they have resorted to jamming the phone signal. Nothing wrong with that, since the law does not allow the use of those phones. I am surprised you've never had an "interaction" with such facilities to know this fact - ask everyone who has been arrested:-) It's not a roadside declaration. It's perfectly within the legal confines. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. Please consider the environment before printing this email.
I get your point Washington isn't prison a corrective facilty?, I think it is better to address the matter other than undertake such a measure which I consider inappropriate, let's consider the issue with some sobriety other than blanket condemnation, this is definately a precursor to tapping :-( On 10/11/11, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 18:00, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>wrote:
Listers,
Listening to Hope Fm a debate on Safaricom jamming the phone signal in prisons in Partnership with Kenya prisons, is this move legal if it is true or is it a roadside declaration? The intended benefit notwithstanding?
@Barrack,
The answer to this is quite simple: Prisoners/convicts are not allowed by law to have mobile phones in the cells. Even at the Police Station level, suspects detained in cells are not allowed such luxury as keeping any personal property with them in the cells, bar for the clothing they have on their bodies. It's therefore obvious that a prisoner having a mobile phone in the detention/remand facility is doing so illegally, perhaps by some collusion from the warders. I believe the Prisons Dept is admitting that the problem is not easy for them to address and as such they have resorted to jamming the phone signal. Nothing wrong with that, since the law does not allow the use of those phones. I am surprised you've never had an "interaction" with such facilities to know this fact - ask everyone who has been arrested:-)
It's not a roadside declaration. It's perfectly within the legal confines.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. Please consider the environment before printing this email.
-- Sent from my mobile device Barrack O. Otieno Afriregister Ltd (Kenya) www.afrire <http://www.afriregister.com>gister.bi, www.afriregister.com<http://www.afriergister.com> <http://www.afriregister.com>ICANN accredited registrar +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno
My problem is jamming the Signal, not having the phone. On 10/11/11, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
I get your point Washington isn't prison a corrective facilty?, I think it is better to address the matter other than undertake such a measure which I consider inappropriate, let's consider the issue with some sobriety other than blanket condemnation, this is definately a precursor to tapping :-(
On 10/11/11, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 18:00, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>wrote:
Listers,
Listening to Hope Fm a debate on Safaricom jamming the phone signal in prisons in Partnership with Kenya prisons, is this move legal if it is true or is it a roadside declaration? The intended benefit notwithstanding?
@Barrack,
The answer to this is quite simple: Prisoners/convicts are not allowed by law to have mobile phones in the cells. Even at the Police Station level, suspects detained in cells are not allowed such luxury as keeping any personal property with them in the cells, bar for the clothing they have on their bodies. It's therefore obvious that a prisoner having a mobile phone in the detention/remand facility is doing so illegally, perhaps by some collusion from the warders. I believe the Prisons Dept is admitting that the problem is not easy for them to address and as such they have resorted to jamming the phone signal. Nothing wrong with that, since the law does not allow the use of those phones. I am surprised you've never had an "interaction" with such facilities to know this fact - ask everyone who has been arrested:-)
It's not a roadside declaration. It's perfectly within the legal confines.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. Please consider the environment before printing this email.
-- Sent from my mobile device
Barrack O. Otieno Afriregister Ltd (Kenya) www.afrire <http://www.afriregister.com>gister.bi, www.afriregister.com<http://www.afriergister.com> <http://www.afriregister.com>ICANN accredited registrar +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno
-- Sent from my mobile device Barrack O. Otieno Afriregister Ltd (Kenya) www.afrire <http://www.afriregister.com>gister.bi, www.afriregister.com<http://www.afriergister.com> <http://www.afriregister.com>ICANN accredited registrar +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno
Wouldn't it have made more sense just to enforce the SIM registration, and only jam non-registered lines? What then happens to the good citizens that live in the vicinity of Kamiti, or is it possible to just jam signals emanating from within the prison premises only? Edwin -----Original Message----- From: kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Barrack Otieno Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 6:27 PM To: Edwin Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Interesting developement My problem is jamming the Signal, not having the phone. On 10/11/11, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
I get your point Washington isn't prison a corrective facilty?, I think it is better to address the matter other than undertake such a measure which I consider inappropriate, let's consider the issue with some sobriety other than blanket condemnation, this is definately a precursor to tapping :-(
On 10/11/11, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 18:00, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>wrote:
Listers,
Listening to Hope Fm a debate on Safaricom jamming the phone signal in prisons in Partnership with Kenya prisons, is this move legal if it is true or is it a roadside declaration? The intended benefit notwithstanding?
@Barrack,
The answer to this is quite simple: Prisoners/convicts are not allowed by law to have mobile phones in the cells. Even at the Police Station level, suspects detained in cells are not allowed such luxury as keeping any personal property with them in the cells, bar for the clothing they have on their bodies. It's therefore obvious that a prisoner having a mobile phone in the detention/remand facility is doing so illegally, perhaps by some collusion from the warders. I believe the Prisons Dept is admitting that the problem is not easy for them to address and as such they have resorted to jamming the phone signal. Nothing wrong with that, since the law does not allow the use of those phones. I am surprised you've never had an "interaction" with such facilities to know this fact - ask everyone who has been arrested:-)
It's not a roadside declaration. It's perfectly within the legal confines.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. Please consider the environment before printing this email.
-- Sent from my mobile device
Barrack O. Otieno Afriregister Ltd (Kenya) www.afrire <http://www.afriregister.com>gister.bi, www.afriregister.com<http://www.afriergister.com> <http://www.afriregister.com>ICANN accredited registrar +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno
-- Sent from my mobile device Barrack O. Otieno Afriregister Ltd (Kenya) www.afrire <http://www.afriregister.com>gister.bi, www.afriregister.com<http://www.afriergister.com> <http://www.afriregister.com>ICANN accredited registrar +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/eonchari%40lynxbits.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1831 / Virus Database: 2090/4545 - Release Date: 10/10/11
I have also been wondering of the legality of cell phone jammer use in the country. The FCC in the US has banned retail of cell phone jammers. As for the prisoners, maybe prisons can start BPO. They would be very competitive. -- with Regards: blog.denniskioko.com <http://www.denniskioko.com/>
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Barrack Otieno -
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Edwin Onchari -
Odhiambo Washington