Taking the digital dividends to the constituencies for prosperity
Listers An interesting article penned by our very own CS. Insightful and needed. Taking the digital dividends to the constituencies for prosperity <http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/Opinion/digital-dividends/440808-3784614-m2kqr8/index.html> I'm hoping that the Abdis, The Kamaus, The Karisa, The Poghishios, The Omaris, The Nyachaes...(You get the drift..) in the farthest corners of Kenya - From Wajir to Kakuma to Lamu will access Broadband everywhere and anywhere sooner rather than later. Regards *Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya. Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.
Interesting read, I actually have a question: What is the current state of Business Process outsourcing in this country? I remember there was a time when this was a tune everyone was singing as justification for landing five (or is it six) submarine cables. A few years down the line, have these industries taken off? Is there quantifiable lessons to learn from these? Do the same , or more business opportunities exist for the same or different kind of platforms? On making access affordable and available, Would it make better sense to expand the mandate of Kenet? To somehow tap into their experience to have them extend internet to schools, polytechnics, etc, and provide more funding (government, USF, Private sector) in a single channel to manage delivery of connectivity to academia. My $2. On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
An interesting article penned by our very own CS. Insightful and needed.
Taking the digital dividends to the constituencies for prosperity <http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/Opinion/digital-dividends/440808-3784614-m2kqr8/index.html>
I'm hoping that the Abdis, The Kamaus, The Karisa, The Poghishios, The Omaris, The Nyachaes...(You get the drift..) in the farthest corners of Kenya - From Wajir to Kakuma to Lamu will access Broadband everywhere and anywhere sooner rather than later.
Regards
*Ali Hussein*
*Principal*
*Hussein & Associates*
Tel: +254 713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
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While this cool - I was fortunate to sit with his team and talked about Ajira and this particular project. However my suggestion then and still is - why not install Rasberrry PI's to create a development culture and cost a fraction to tablets? Eric www.vaultglobal.co.uk Sent from my iPhone
On 24 Jan 2017, at 12:59, Collins Areba via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Interesting read, I actually have a question:
What is the current state of Business Process outsourcing in this country? I remember there was a time when this was a tune everyone was singing as justification for landing five (or is it six) submarine cables. A few years down the line, have these industries taken off? Is there quantifiable lessons to learn from these? Do the same , or more business opportunities exist for the same or different kind of platforms?
On making access affordable and available, Would it make better sense to expand the mandate of Kenet? To somehow tap into their experience to have them extend internet to schools, polytechnics, etc, and provide more funding (government, USF, Private sector) in a single channel to manage delivery of connectivity to academia.
My $2.
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
An interesting article penned by our very own CS. Insightful and needed.
Taking the digital dividends to the constituencies for prosperity
I'm hoping that the Abdis, The Kamaus, The Karisa, The Poghishios, The Omaris, The Nyachaes...(You get the drift..) in the farthest corners of Kenya - From Wajir to Kakuma to Lamu will access Broadband everywhere and anywhere sooner rather than later.
Regards
Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates
Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya.
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Eric, I'm in full agreement with your suggestion - but this should be in addition to the '40 tablets'. Raspberry Pis, whilst low cost, also need TVs as monitors, keyboards, mice, power supplies, cables. It would be a maintenance nightmare! So - there should be 'maker space' provided in addition for mebbe 5 Pis, with breadboards, components, and a RasPi teacher following the recently released curriculum for the RasPi. We can but dream ;) Cheers, Tony On 24/01/2017, Eric Mwangi via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
While this cool - I was fortunate to sit with his team and talked about Ajira and this particular project. However my suggestion then and still is - why not install Rasberrry PI's to create a development culture and cost a fraction to tablets?
Eric www.vaultglobal.co.uk
Sent from my iPhone
On 24 Jan 2017, at 12:59, Collins Areba via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Interesting read, I actually have a question:
What is the current state of Business Process outsourcing in this country? I remember there was a time when this was a tune everyone was singing as justification for landing five (or is it six) submarine cables. A few years down the line, have these industries taken off? Is there quantifiable lessons to learn from these? Do the same , or more business opportunities exist for the same or different kind of platforms?
On making access affordable and available, Would it make better sense to expand the mandate of Kenet? To somehow tap into their experience to have them extend internet to schools, polytechnics, etc, and provide more funding (government, USF, Private sector) in a single channel to manage delivery of connectivity to academia.
My $2.
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
An interesting article penned by our very own CS. Insightful and needed.
Taking the digital dividends to the constituencies for prosperity
I'm hoping that the Abdis, The Kamaus, The Karisa, The Poghishios, The Omaris, The Nyachaes...(You get the drift..) in the farthest corners of Kenya - From Wajir to Kakuma to Lamu will access Broadband everywhere and anywhere sooner rather than later.
Regards
Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates
Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya.
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Hi Colleagues, Interesting conversation and developments, congratulations bwana Waziri. However and In my humble opinion government should get its priorities right, we have areas near Nairobi like Ole Polos and Kisamese, 50 Kilometres from the CBD where connectivity is a major challenge and i invite you to drive down to this area one of this days. Students have to travel for 20 Kilometres to access Cyber Cafe's since 2 G or 3 G on the mobile Network is unstable. The Huduma Centre has been idle for more than one year due to lack of connectivity. Why cant we ensure all Citizens have access to electricity and good communication infrastructure?, its good to showcase success stories from Europe but we must remember that they have the basics in place. Regards On 1/24/17, Tony White via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Eric,
I'm in full agreement with your suggestion - but this should be in addition to the '40 tablets'. Raspberry Pis, whilst low cost, also need TVs as monitors, keyboards, mice, power supplies, cables. It would be a maintenance nightmare!
So - there should be 'maker space' provided in addition for mebbe 5 Pis, with breadboards, components, and a RasPi teacher following the recently released curriculum for the RasPi.
We can but dream ;)
Cheers, Tony
On 24/01/2017, Eric Mwangi via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
While this cool - I was fortunate to sit with his team and talked about Ajira and this particular project. However my suggestion then and still is - why not install Rasberrry PI's to create a development culture and cost a fraction to tablets?
Eric www.vaultglobal.co.uk
Sent from my iPhone
On 24 Jan 2017, at 12:59, Collins Areba via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Interesting read, I actually have a question:
What is the current state of Business Process outsourcing in this country? I remember there was a time when this was a tune everyone was singing as justification for landing five (or is it six) submarine cables. A few years down the line, have these industries taken off? Is there quantifiable lessons to learn from these? Do the same , or more business opportunities exist for the same or different kind of platforms?
On making access affordable and available, Would it make better sense to expand the mandate of Kenet? To somehow tap into their experience to have them extend internet to schools, polytechnics, etc, and provide more funding (government, USF, Private sector) in a single channel to manage delivery of connectivity to academia.
My $2.
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
An interesting article penned by our very own CS. Insightful and needed.
Taking the digital dividends to the constituencies for prosperity
I'm hoping that the Abdis, The Kamaus, The Karisa, The Poghishios, The Omaris, The Nyachaes...(You get the drift..) in the farthest corners of Kenya - From Wajir to Kakuma to Lamu will access Broadband everywhere and anywhere sooner rather than later.
Regards
Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates
Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya.
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I think schools already have the dumb infrastructure (buildings, power, teachers at some level), replicating this is simply putting money in structures while we could spend working on content. and connectivity. On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 7:18 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Colleagues,
Interesting conversation and developments, congratulations bwana Waziri. However and In my humble opinion government should get its priorities right, we have areas near Nairobi like Ole Polos and Kisamese, 50 Kilometres from the CBD where connectivity is a major challenge and i invite you to drive down to this area one of this days. Students have to travel for 20 Kilometres to access Cyber Cafe's since 2 G or 3 G on the mobile Network is unstable. The Huduma Centre has been idle for more than one year due to lack of connectivity. Why cant we ensure all Citizens have access to electricity and good communication infrastructure?, its good to showcase success stories from Europe but we must remember that they have the basics in place.
Regards
Eric,
I'm in full agreement with your suggestion - but this should be in addition to the '40 tablets'. Raspberry Pis, whilst low cost, also need TVs as monitors, keyboards, mice, power supplies, cables. It would be a maintenance nightmare!
So - there should be 'maker space' provided in addition for mebbe 5 Pis, with breadboards, components, and a RasPi teacher following the recently released curriculum for the RasPi.
We can but dream ;)
Cheers, Tony
On 24/01/2017, Eric Mwangi via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
While this cool - I was fortunate to sit with his team and talked about Ajira and this particular project. However my suggestion then and still is - why not install Rasberrry PI's to create a development culture and cost a fraction to tablets?
Eric www.vaultglobal.co.uk
Sent from my iPhone
On 24 Jan 2017, at 12:59, Collins Areba via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Interesting read, I actually have a question:
What is the current state of Business Process outsourcing in this country? I remember there was a time when this was a tune everyone was singing as justification for landing five (or is it six) submarine cables. A few years down the line, have these industries taken off? Is there quantifiable lessons to learn from these? Do the same , or more business opportunities exist for the same or different kind of platforms?
On making access affordable and available, Would it make better sense to expand the mandate of Kenet? To somehow tap into their experience to have them extend internet to schools, polytechnics, etc, and provide more funding (government, USF, Private sector) in a single channel to manage delivery of connectivity to academia.
My $2.
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
An interesting article penned by our very own CS. Insightful and needed.
Taking the digital dividends to the constituencies for prosperity
I'm hoping that the Abdis, The Kamaus, The Karisa, The Poghishios, The Omaris, The Nyachaes...(You get the drift..) in the farthest corners of Kenya - From Wajir to Kakuma to Lamu will access Broadband everywhere and anywhere sooner rather than later.
Regards
Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates
Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya.
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Tony, I still think the Raspberry Pi would have made a much better alternative than Tablets. Tablets IMO do not inspire deep learning, they are more entertainment devices than work devices (Try programming with a Tablet). They are also at greater risk of getting spoilt due to their mobility. And if a kid drops one, that's it! Completely dead unless someone gets a replacement screen. Now, look at the Raspberry Kits out there. Cheap, even cheaper to replace incase anything goes wrong and much hardier than tablets. Most importantly Raspberry inspire learning, starting with a kid seeing how a computer gets put together. For mobility, how about a kid could even carry the Raspberry home and connect to their home tv? At these costs, and adding a Ksh 5K monitor, you have a 10K machine that's very versatile. Have a look at some sample kits from here ( https://www.raspberrypistarterkits.com ) https://www.amazon.com/Vilros-Raspberry-Complete-Starter-Black/dp/B00MV6TAJI https://www.canakit.com/raspberry-pi-3-ultimate-kit.html What I also find interesting is how developed economies are pushing their Kids to Raspberry Pi-type devices which are ideal for learning, as we push our kids towards consumer type devices (Tablets) Regards Waithaka Ngigi www.at.co.ke On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 4:52 PM, Tony White via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Eric,
I'm in full agreement with your suggestion - but this should be in addition to the '40 tablets'. Raspberry Pis, whilst low cost, also need TVs as monitors, keyboards, mice, power supplies, cables. It would be a maintenance nightmare!
So - there should be 'maker space' provided in addition for mebbe 5 Pis, with breadboards, components, and a RasPi teacher following the recently released curriculum for the RasPi.
We can but dream ;)
Cheers, Tony
On 24/01/2017, Eric Mwangi via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
While this cool - I was fortunate to sit with his team and talked about Ajira and this particular project. However my suggestion then and still is - why not install Rasberrry PI's to create a development culture and cost a fraction to tablets?
Eric www.vaultglobal.co.uk
Sent from my iPhone
On 24 Jan 2017, at 12:59, Collins Areba via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Interesting read, I actually have a question:
What is the current state of Business Process outsourcing in this country? I remember there was a time when this was a tune everyone was singing as justification for landing five (or is it six) submarine cables. A few years down the line, have these industries taken off? Is there quantifiable lessons to learn from these? Do the same , or more business opportunities exist for the same or different kind of platforms?
On making access affordable and available, Would it make better sense to expand the mandate of Kenet? To somehow tap into their experience to have them extend internet to schools, polytechnics, etc, and provide more funding (government, USF, Private sector) in a single channel to manage delivery of connectivity to academia.
My $2.
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
An interesting article penned by our very own CS. Insightful and needed.
Taking the digital dividends to the constituencies for prosperity
I'm hoping that the Abdis, The Kamaus, The Karisa, The Poghishios, The Omaris, The Nyachaes...(You get the drift..) in the farthest corners of Kenya - From Wajir to Kakuma to Lamu will access Broadband everywhere and anywhere sooner rather than later.
Regards
Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates
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Dear All, the UK digital strategy for education is based on raspberry pi. The have gone beyond assisting the young ones to be computer literate to teaching them programming on raspberry pi. Raspberry pi is also being used to introduce students to electronics and robotics. Regards, Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 11:42 AM To: awatila@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Ngigi Waithaka Subject: Re: [kictanet] Taking the digital dividends to the constituenciesfor prosperity Tony, I still think the Raspberry Pi would have made a much better alternative than Tablets. Tablets IMO do not inspire deep learning, they are more entertainment devices than work devices (Try programming with a Tablet). They are also at greater risk of getting spoilt due to their mobility. And if a kid drops one, that's it! Completely dead unless someone gets a replacement screen. Now, look at the Raspberry Kits out there. Cheap, even cheaper to replace incase anything goes wrong and much hardier than tablets. Most importantly Raspberry inspire learning, starting with a kid seeing how a computer gets put together. For mobility, how about a kid could even carry the Raspberry home and connect to their home tv? At these costs, and adding a Ksh 5K monitor, you have a 10K machine that's very versatile. Have a look at some sample kits from here ( https://www.raspberrypistarterkits.com ) https://www.amazon.com/Vilros-Raspberry-Complete-Starter-Black/dp/B00MV6TAJI https://www.canakit.com/raspberry-pi-3-ultimate-kit.html What I also find interesting is how developed economies are pushing their Kids to Raspberry Pi-type devices which are ideal for learning, as we push our kids towards consumer type devices (Tablets) Regards Waithaka Ngigi www.at.co.ke On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 4:52 PM, Tony White via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Eric, I'm in full agreement with your suggestion - but this should be in addition to the '40 tablets'. Raspberry Pis, whilst low cost, also need TVs as monitors, keyboards, mice, power supplies, cables. It would be a maintenance nightmare! So - there should be 'maker space' provided in addition for mebbe 5 Pis, with breadboards, components, and a RasPi teacher following the recently released curriculum for the RasPi. We can but dream ;) Cheers, Tony On 24/01/2017, Eric Mwangi via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
While this cool - I was fortunate to sit with his team and talked about Ajira and this particular project. However my suggestion then and still is - why not install Rasberrry PI's to create a development culture and cost a fraction to tablets?
Eric www.vaultglobal.co.uk
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On 24 Jan 2017, at 12:59, Collins Areba via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Interesting read, I actually have a question:
What is the current state of Business Process outsourcing in this country? I remember there was a time when this was a tune everyone was singing as justification for landing five (or is it six) submarine cables. A few years down the line, have these industries taken off? Is there quantifiable lessons to learn from these? Do the same , or more business opportunities exist for the same or different kind of platforms?
On making access affordable and available, Would it make better sense to expand the mandate of Kenet? To somehow tap into their experience to have them extend internet to schools, polytechnics, etc, and provide more funding (government, USF, Private sector) in a single channel to manage delivery of connectivity to academia.
My $2.
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
An interesting article penned by our very own CS. Insightful and needed.
Taking the digital dividends to the constituencies for prosperity
I'm hoping that the Abdis, The Kamaus, The Karisa, The Poghishios, The Omaris, The Nyachaes...(You get the drift..) in the farthest corners of Kenya - From Wajir to Kakuma to Lamu will access Broadband everywhere and anywhere sooner rather than later.
Regards
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Ngugi, Touche my 5 year old daughter understands the inner working of a comp and we do have intelligent conversations and frankly sometimes I draw blanks as my core background is not IT. She started coming with Rasberry PI's home since she was 4. This is how they are taught programming in school. I also don't get the Tablet façade! Eric E Njoroge Mwangi Technology| FINTECH | Big Data Cell +44 7539372742 Skype: Erick.mwangi On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 8:41 AM, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Tony,
I still think the Raspberry Pi would have made a much better alternative than Tablets.
Tablets IMO do not inspire deep learning, they are more entertainment devices than work devices (Try programming with a Tablet).
They are also at greater risk of getting spoilt due to their mobility. And if a kid drops one, that's it! Completely dead unless someone gets a replacement screen.
Now, look at the Raspberry Kits out there. Cheap, even cheaper to replace incase anything goes wrong and much hardier than tablets. Most importantly Raspberry inspire learning, starting with a kid seeing how a computer gets put together.
For mobility, how about a kid could even carry the Raspberry home and connect to their home tv?
At these costs, and adding a Ksh 5K monitor, you have a 10K machine that's very versatile.
Have a look at some sample kits from here ( https://www. raspberrypistarterkits.com )
https://www.amazon.com/Vilros-Raspberry-Complete-Starter- Black/dp/B00MV6TAJI
https://www.canakit.com/raspberry-pi-3-ultimate-kit.html
What I also find interesting is how developed economies are pushing their Kids to Raspberry Pi-type devices which are ideal for learning, as we push our kids towards consumer type devices (Tablets)
Regards Waithaka Ngigi www.at.co.ke
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 4:52 PM, Tony White via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Eric,
I'm in full agreement with your suggestion - but this should be in addition to the '40 tablets'. Raspberry Pis, whilst low cost, also need TVs as monitors, keyboards, mice, power supplies, cables. It would be a maintenance nightmare!
So - there should be 'maker space' provided in addition for mebbe 5 Pis, with breadboards, components, and a RasPi teacher following the recently released curriculum for the RasPi.
We can but dream ;)
Cheers, Tony
While this cool - I was fortunate to sit with his team and talked about Ajira and this particular project. However my suggestion then and still is - why not install Rasberrry PI's to create a development culture and cost a fraction to tablets?
Eric www.vaultglobal.co.uk
Sent from my iPhone
On 24 Jan 2017, at 12:59, Collins Areba via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Interesting read, I actually have a question:
What is the current state of Business Process outsourcing in this country? I remember there was a time when this was a tune everyone was singing as justification for landing five (or is it six) submarine cables. A few years down the line, have these industries taken off? Is there quantifiable lessons to learn from these? Do the same , or more business opportunities exist for the same or different kind of platforms?
On making access affordable and available, Would it make better sense to expand the mandate of Kenet? To somehow tap into their experience to have them extend internet to schools, polytechnics, etc, and provide more funding (government, USF, Private sector) in a single channel to manage delivery of connectivity to academia.
My $2.
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
An interesting article penned by our very own CS. Insightful and needed.
Taking the digital dividends to the constituencies for prosperity
I'm hoping that the Abdis, The Kamaus, The Karisa, The Poghishios, The Omaris, The Nyachaes...(You get the drift..) in the farthest corners of Kenya - From Wajir to Kakuma to Lamu will access Broadband everywhere and anywhere sooner rather than later.
Regards
Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates
Tel: +254 713 601113 <+254%20713%20601113> Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
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I think the problem is not the tablet, its what runs on the tablet. There is amazing software that can run on tablets and deliver the same learning experience as on a desktop or laptop. The problem is the ecosystem. On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 12:20 PM, Erick Mwangi via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Ngugi,
Touche my 5 year old daughter understands the inner working of a comp and we do have intelligent conversations and frankly sometimes I draw blanks as my core background is not IT. She started coming with Rasberry PI's home since she was 4. This is how they are taught programming in school.
I also don't get the Tablet façade!
Eric
E Njoroge Mwangi Technology| FINTECH | Big Data
Cell +44 7539372742 Skype: Erick.mwangi
On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 8:41 AM, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Tony,
I still think the Raspberry Pi would have made a much better alternative than Tablets.
Tablets IMO do not inspire deep learning, they are more entertainment devices than work devices (Try programming with a Tablet).
They are also at greater risk of getting spoilt due to their mobility. And if a kid drops one, that's it! Completely dead unless someone gets a replacement screen.
Now, look at the Raspberry Kits out there. Cheap, even cheaper to replace incase anything goes wrong and much hardier than tablets. Most importantly Raspberry inspire learning, starting with a kid seeing how a computer gets put together.
For mobility, how about a kid could even carry the Raspberry home and connect to their home tv?
At these costs, and adding a Ksh 5K monitor, you have a 10K machine that's very versatile.
Have a look at some sample kits from here ( https://www.raspberrypistart erkits.com )
https://www.amazon.com/Vilros-Raspberry-Complete-Starter-Bla ck/dp/B00MV6TAJI
https://www.canakit.com/raspberry-pi-3-ultimate-kit.html
What I also find interesting is how developed economies are pushing their Kids to Raspberry Pi-type devices which are ideal for learning, as we push our kids towards consumer type devices (Tablets)
Regards Waithaka Ngigi www.at.co.ke
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 4:52 PM, Tony White via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Eric,
I'm in full agreement with your suggestion - but this should be in addition to the '40 tablets'. Raspberry Pis, whilst low cost, also need TVs as monitors, keyboards, mice, power supplies, cables. It would be a maintenance nightmare!
So - there should be 'maker space' provided in addition for mebbe 5 Pis, with breadboards, components, and a RasPi teacher following the recently released curriculum for the RasPi.
We can but dream ;)
Cheers, Tony
While this cool - I was fortunate to sit with his team and talked about Ajira and this particular project. However my suggestion then and still is - why not install Rasberrry PI's to create a development culture and cost a fraction to tablets?
Eric www.vaultglobal.co.uk
Sent from my iPhone
On 24 Jan 2017, at 12:59, Collins Areba via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Interesting read, I actually have a question:
What is the current state of Business Process outsourcing in this country? I remember there was a time when this was a tune everyone was singing as justification for landing five (or is it six) submarine cables. A few years down the line, have these industries taken off? Is there quantifiable lessons to learn from these? Do the same , or more business opportunities exist for the same or different kind of platforms?
On making access affordable and available, Would it make better sense to expand the mandate of Kenet? To somehow tap into their experience to have them extend internet to schools, polytechnics, etc, and provide more funding (government, USF, Private sector) in a single channel to manage delivery of connectivity to academia.
My $2.
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
An interesting article penned by our very own CS. Insightful and needed.
Taking the digital dividends to the constituencies for prosperity
I'm hoping that the Abdis, The Kamaus, The Karisa, The Poghishios, The Omaris, The Nyachaes...(You get the drift..) in the farthest corners of Kenya - From Wajir to Kakuma to Lamu will access Broadband everywhere and anywhere sooner rather than later.
Regards
Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates
Tel: +254 713 601113 <+254%20713%20601113> Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
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Collins, Yes, you can program on a tablet, but that's fitting a square pole into a round hole. If you hack code, try working on a Tablet a whole day :-) Tablets , Phablets, Phones were never meant for programming. Their form factors just don't work very well for programming and/or learning. They are consumer devices. I think the biggest advantage Raspberry et.al have over everything else, including desktop computers, they are meant to encourage someone to open them up and learn how to put it together. Also, with a different SD Card, you could load a different OS (environment) altogether. So kids just keep on loading different things as they learn from them. Computers on the other hand are getting more & more closed. You buy, it breaks, return to dealer. forget even about opening it up just to play around. Rgds On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 12:23 PM, Collins Areba via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
I think the problem is not the tablet, its what runs on the tablet. There is amazing software that can run on tablets and deliver the same learning experience as on a desktop or laptop. The problem is the ecosystem.
On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 12:20 PM, Erick Mwangi via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Ngugi,
Touche my 5 year old daughter understands the inner working of a comp and we do have intelligent conversations and frankly sometimes I draw blanks as my core background is not IT. She started coming with Rasberry PI's home since she was 4. This is how they are taught programming in school.
I also don't get the Tablet façade!
Eric
E Njoroge Mwangi Technology| FINTECH | Big Data
Cell +44 7539372742 Skype: Erick.mwangi
On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 8:41 AM, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Tony,
I still think the Raspberry Pi would have made a much better alternative than Tablets.
Tablets IMO do not inspire deep learning, they are more entertainment devices than work devices (Try programming with a Tablet).
They are also at greater risk of getting spoilt due to their mobility. And if a kid drops one, that's it! Completely dead unless someone gets a replacement screen.
Now, look at the Raspberry Kits out there. Cheap, even cheaper to replace incase anything goes wrong and much hardier than tablets. Most importantly Raspberry inspire learning, starting with a kid seeing how a computer gets put together.
For mobility, how about a kid could even carry the Raspberry home and connect to their home tv?
At these costs, and adding a Ksh 5K monitor, you have a 10K machine that's very versatile.
Have a look at some sample kits from here ( https://www.raspberrypistart erkits.com )
https://www.amazon.com/Vilros-Raspberry-Complete-Starter-Bla ck/dp/B00MV6TAJI
https://www.canakit.com/raspberry-pi-3-ultimate-kit.html
What I also find interesting is how developed economies are pushing their Kids to Raspberry Pi-type devices which are ideal for learning, as we push our kids towards consumer type devices (Tablets)
Regards Waithaka Ngigi www.at.co.ke
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 4:52 PM, Tony White via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Eric,
I'm in full agreement with your suggestion - but this should be in addition to the '40 tablets'. Raspberry Pis, whilst low cost, also need TVs as monitors, keyboards, mice, power supplies, cables. It would be a maintenance nightmare!
So - there should be 'maker space' provided in addition for mebbe 5 Pis, with breadboards, components, and a RasPi teacher following the recently released curriculum for the RasPi.
We can but dream ;)
Cheers, Tony
While this cool - I was fortunate to sit with his team and talked about Ajira and this particular project. However my suggestion then and still is - why not install Rasberrry PI's to create a development culture and cost a fraction to tablets?
Eric www.vaultglobal.co.uk
Sent from my iPhone
On 24 Jan 2017, at 12:59, Collins Areba via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Interesting read, I actually have a question:
What is the current state of Business Process outsourcing in this country? I remember there was a time when this was a tune everyone was singing as justification for landing five (or is it six) submarine cables. A few years down the line, have these industries taken off? Is there quantifiable lessons to learn from these? Do the same , or more business opportunities exist for the same or different kind of platforms?
On making access affordable and available, Would it make better sense to expand the mandate of Kenet? To somehow tap into their experience to have them extend internet to schools, polytechnics, etc, and provide more funding (government, USF, Private sector) in a single channel to manage delivery of connectivity to academia.
My $2.
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Listers > > An interesting article penned by our very own CS. Insightful and needed. > > > Taking the digital dividends to the constituencies for prosperity > > I'm hoping that the Abdis, The Kamaus, The Karisa, The Poghishios, The > Omaris, The Nyachaes...(You get the drift..) in the farthest corners of > Kenya - From Wajir to Kakuma to Lamu will access Broadband everywhere and > anywhere sooner rather than later. > > > Regards > > > Ali Hussein > Principal > Hussein & Associates > > Tel: +254 713 601113 <+254%20713%20601113> > Twitter: @AliHKassim > Skype: abu-jomo > LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > > 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, > Chiromo Road, Westlands, > Nairobi, Kenya. > > Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are
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Correction @Ngigi, The touchscreen as an Input device is inconvenient for writing code. It is however a self contained Input / Output device in a small enough form factor, The only thing missing is a physical keyboard and the difference between that and a laptop for instance is negligible. When my laptop was out of commission, I remained conpletely productive on an Ipad and an external keyboard, doing everything on codeanywhere.com and ssh into my servers, which is more or less what I do anyway on the laptop. You just cant beat the flexibility of having everything in a small package like you get on a tablet, and the ability to move round with your computer withour extending cables and ethernet. I guess the question is, Should they get cheap laptops? or Tablets? I think we should disocciate the need for hackable hardware from the type of hardware needed for a learning environment that would give in the broadest sense as much value. On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 1:03 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
Collins,
Yes, you can program on a tablet, but that's fitting a square pole into a round hole. If you hack code, try working on a Tablet a whole day :-)
Tablets , Phablets, Phones were never meant for programming. Their form factors just don't work very well for programming and/or learning. They are consumer devices.
I think the biggest advantage Raspberry et.al have over everything else, including desktop computers, they are meant to encourage someone to open them up and learn how to put it together.
Also, with a different SD Card, you could load a different OS (environment) altogether. So kids just keep on loading different things as they learn from them.
Computers on the other hand are getting more & more closed. You buy, it breaks, return to dealer. forget even about opening it up just to play around.
Rgds
On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 12:23 PM, Collins Areba via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
I think the problem is not the tablet, its what runs on the tablet. There is amazing software that can run on tablets and deliver the same learning experience as on a desktop or laptop. The problem is the ecosystem.
On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 12:20 PM, Erick Mwangi via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Ngugi,
Touche my 5 year old daughter understands the inner working of a comp and we do have intelligent conversations and frankly sometimes I draw blanks as my core background is not IT. She started coming with Rasberry PI's home since she was 4. This is how they are taught programming in school.
I also don't get the Tablet façade!
Eric
E Njoroge Mwangi Technology| FINTECH | Big Data
Cell +44 7539372742 Skype: Erick.mwangi
On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 8:41 AM, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Tony,
I still think the Raspberry Pi would have made a much better alternative than Tablets.
Tablets IMO do not inspire deep learning, they are more entertainment devices than work devices (Try programming with a Tablet).
They are also at greater risk of getting spoilt due to their mobility. And if a kid drops one, that's it! Completely dead unless someone gets a replacement screen.
Now, look at the Raspberry Kits out there. Cheap, even cheaper to replace incase anything goes wrong and much hardier than tablets. Most importantly Raspberry inspire learning, starting with a kid seeing how a computer gets put together.
For mobility, how about a kid could even carry the Raspberry home and connect to their home tv?
At these costs, and adding a Ksh 5K monitor, you have a 10K machine that's very versatile.
Have a look at some sample kits from here ( https://www.raspberrypistarterkits.com )
https://www.amazon.com/Vilros-Raspberry-Complete-Starter-Bla ck/dp/B00MV6TAJI
https://www.canakit.com/raspberry-pi-3-ultimate-kit.html
What I also find interesting is how developed economies are pushing their Kids to Raspberry Pi-type devices which are ideal for learning, as we push our kids towards consumer type devices (Tablets)
Regards Waithaka Ngigi www.at.co.ke
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 4:52 PM, Tony White via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Eric,
I'm in full agreement with your suggestion - but this should be in addition to the '40 tablets'. Raspberry Pis, whilst low cost, also need TVs as monitors, keyboards, mice, power supplies, cables. It would be a maintenance nightmare!
So - there should be 'maker space' provided in addition for mebbe 5 Pis, with breadboards, components, and a RasPi teacher following the recently released curriculum for the RasPi.
We can but dream ;)
Cheers, Tony
While this cool - I was fortunate to sit with his team and talked about Ajira and this particular project. However my suggestion then and still is - why not install Rasberrry PI's to create a development culture and cost a fraction to tablets?
Eric www.vaultglobal.co.uk
Sent from my iPhone
> On 24 Jan 2017, at 12:59, Collins Areba via kictanet > <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > Interesting read, I actually have a question: > > What is the current state of Business Process outsourcing in this country? > I remember there was a time when this was a tune everyone was singing as > justification for landing five (or is it six) submarine cables. A few > years down the line, have these industries taken off? Is there > quantifiable lessons to learn from these? Do the same , or more business > opportunities exist for the same or different kind of platforms? > > On making access affordable and available, Would it make better sense to > expand the mandate of Kenet? To somehow tap into their experience to have > them extend internet to schools, polytechnics, etc, and provide more > funding (government, USF, Private sector) in a single channel to manage > delivery of connectivity to academia. > > My $2. > > On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Ali Hussein via kictanet > <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >> Listers >> >> An interesting article penned by our very own CS. Insightful and needed. >> >> >> Taking the digital dividends to the constituencies for prosperity >> >> I'm hoping that the Abdis, The Kamaus, The Karisa, The Poghishios, The >> Omaris, The Nyachaes...(You get the drift..) in the farthest corners of >> Kenya - From Wajir to Kakuma to Lamu will access Broadband everywhere and >> anywhere sooner rather than later. >> >> >> Regards >> >> >> Ali Hussein >> Principal >> Hussein & Associates >> >> Tel: +254 713 601113 <+254%20713%20601113> >> Twitter: @AliHKassim >> Skype: abu-jomo >> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >> >> 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, >> Chiromo Road, Westlands, >> Nairobi, Kenya. >> >> Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are
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Eric, Fast forward to when she will be 14yrs, with 10 years experience assembling & programming computers.... Now, I think most of us here, have tablets and/smartphones I doubt anyone here can say that they seriously encourage their kids to use them a lot for learning. If anything, its a battle to get them off the smartphones & tablets as they invariably distract with their social media apps, movies etc Here, I agree with Collins, the environment if just not right for serious learning. Regards On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 12:20 PM, Erick Mwangi via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Ngugi,
Touche my 5 year old daughter understands the inner working of a comp and we do have intelligent conversations and frankly sometimes I draw blanks as my core background is not IT. She started coming with Rasberry PI's home since she was 4. This is how they are taught programming in school.
I also don't get the Tablet façade!
Eric
E Njoroge Mwangi Technology| FINTECH | Big Data
Cell +44 7539372742 Skype: Erick.mwangi
On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 8:41 AM, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Tony,
I still think the Raspberry Pi would have made a much better alternative than Tablets.
Tablets IMO do not inspire deep learning, they are more entertainment devices than work devices (Try programming with a Tablet).
They are also at greater risk of getting spoilt due to their mobility. And if a kid drops one, that's it! Completely dead unless someone gets a replacement screen.
Now, look at the Raspberry Kits out there. Cheap, even cheaper to replace incase anything goes wrong and much hardier than tablets. Most importantly Raspberry inspire learning, starting with a kid seeing how a computer gets put together.
For mobility, how about a kid could even carry the Raspberry home and connect to their home tv?
At these costs, and adding a Ksh 5K monitor, you have a 10K machine that's very versatile.
Have a look at some sample kits from here ( https://www.raspberrypistart erkits.com )
https://www.amazon.com/Vilros-Raspberry-Complete-Starter-Bla ck/dp/B00MV6TAJI
https://www.canakit.com/raspberry-pi-3-ultimate-kit.html
What I also find interesting is how developed economies are pushing their Kids to Raspberry Pi-type devices which are ideal for learning, as we push our kids towards consumer type devices (Tablets)
Regards Waithaka Ngigi www.at.co.ke
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 4:52 PM, Tony White via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Eric,
I'm in full agreement with your suggestion - but this should be in addition to the '40 tablets'. Raspberry Pis, whilst low cost, also need TVs as monitors, keyboards, mice, power supplies, cables. It would be a maintenance nightmare!
So - there should be 'maker space' provided in addition for mebbe 5 Pis, with breadboards, components, and a RasPi teacher following the recently released curriculum for the RasPi.
We can but dream ;)
Cheers, Tony
While this cool - I was fortunate to sit with his team and talked about Ajira and this particular project. However my suggestion then and still is - why not install Rasberrry PI's to create a development culture and cost a fraction to tablets?
Eric www.vaultglobal.co.uk
Sent from my iPhone
On 24 Jan 2017, at 12:59, Collins Areba via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Interesting read, I actually have a question:
What is the current state of Business Process outsourcing in this country? I remember there was a time when this was a tune everyone was singing as justification for landing five (or is it six) submarine cables. A few years down the line, have these industries taken off? Is there quantifiable lessons to learn from these? Do the same , or more business opportunities exist for the same or different kind of platforms?
On making access affordable and available, Would it make better sense to expand the mandate of Kenet? To somehow tap into their experience to have them extend internet to schools, polytechnics, etc, and provide more funding (government, USF, Private sector) in a single channel to manage delivery of connectivity to academia.
My $2.
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
An interesting article penned by our very own CS. Insightful and needed.
Taking the digital dividends to the constituencies for prosperity
I'm hoping that the Abdis, The Kamaus, The Karisa, The Poghishios, The Omaris, The Nyachaes...(You get the drift..) in the farthest corners of Kenya - From Wajir to Kakuma to Lamu will access Broadband everywhere and anywhere sooner rather than later.
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@Ngigi I support a local school get ahead in matters IT, We have had to evaluate Fanless computers because being next to the sea, average lifespan of computers is somewhere in the one year to one and a half years. (Then Rust crops in and a myriad of problems). I evaluated the raspberry pi, the banana pi, and a couple of other devices. Initially as a drop in replacement for the CPU. Since they had working monitors, it made sense to get these. I settled for the Icube pro i4. In the end it costs almost as much as the desktops they are replacing, but it is much smaller and fanless, we expect the savings in power consumption too, for a school using solar to result in more power for other uses. IMHO, I would recommend the icube on account of power. and a program to get these schools to have high def, multi purpose screens that can take in serial, HDMI, DV, etc etc which is the missing ingredient. Kids are now learning programming using MIT tools like Scratch, on Icube Pro's running Debian. :-) My six year old can write an IF loop. my comp 101 lecturer would be proud. We are at an age where giving a kid a tablet without giving any instruction and an hour later they'll have mastered using it, I think computer literacy in 1999 is not what computer literacy should mean in 2017. On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 11:41 AM, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Tony,
I still think the Raspberry Pi would have made a much better alternative than Tablets.
Tablets IMO do not inspire deep learning, they are more entertainment devices than work devices (Try programming with a Tablet).
They are also at greater risk of getting spoilt due to their mobility. And if a kid drops one, that's it! Completely dead unless someone gets a replacement screen.
Now, look at the Raspberry Kits out there. Cheap, even cheaper to replace incase anything goes wrong and much hardier than tablets. Most importantly Raspberry inspire learning, starting with a kid seeing how a computer gets put together.
For mobility, how about a kid could even carry the Raspberry home and connect to their home tv?
At these costs, and adding a Ksh 5K monitor, you have a 10K machine that's very versatile.
Have a look at some sample kits from here ( https://www. raspberrypistarterkits.com )
https://www.amazon.com/Vilros-Raspberry-Complete-Starter- Black/dp/B00MV6TAJI
https://www.canakit.com/raspberry-pi-3-ultimate-kit.html
What I also find interesting is how developed economies are pushing their Kids to Raspberry Pi-type devices which are ideal for learning, as we push our kids towards consumer type devices (Tablets)
Regards Waithaka Ngigi www.at.co.ke
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 4:52 PM, Tony White via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Eric,
I'm in full agreement with your suggestion - but this should be in addition to the '40 tablets'. Raspberry Pis, whilst low cost, also need TVs as monitors, keyboards, mice, power supplies, cables. It would be a maintenance nightmare!
So - there should be 'maker space' provided in addition for mebbe 5 Pis, with breadboards, components, and a RasPi teacher following the recently released curriculum for the RasPi.
We can but dream ;)
Cheers, Tony
While this cool - I was fortunate to sit with his team and talked about Ajira and this particular project. However my suggestion then and still is - why not install Rasberrry PI's to create a development culture and cost a fraction to tablets?
Eric www.vaultglobal.co.uk
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On 24 Jan 2017, at 12:59, Collins Areba via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Interesting read, I actually have a question:
What is the current state of Business Process outsourcing in this country? I remember there was a time when this was a tune everyone was singing as justification for landing five (or is it six) submarine cables. A few years down the line, have these industries taken off? Is there quantifiable lessons to learn from these? Do the same , or more business opportunities exist for the same or different kind of platforms?
On making access affordable and available, Would it make better sense to expand the mandate of Kenet? To somehow tap into their experience to have them extend internet to schools, polytechnics, etc, and provide more funding (government, USF, Private sector) in a single channel to manage delivery of connectivity to academia.
My $2.
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
An interesting article penned by our very own CS. Insightful and needed.
Taking the digital dividends to the constituencies for prosperity
I'm hoping that the Abdis, The Kamaus, The Karisa, The Poghishios, The Omaris, The Nyachaes...(You get the drift..) in the farthest corners of Kenya - From Wajir to Kakuma to Lamu will access Broadband everywhere and anywhere sooner rather than later.
Regards
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I do not think this article was done by the CS. He is far deeper than this piece. Aside from that, I look forward to the Ajira developments cheering on. Blessed day. Regards/Wangari --- Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth". On Tuesday, 24 January 2017, 15:45, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Listers An interesting article penned by our very own CS. Insightful and needed. Taking the digital dividends to the constituencies for prosperity I'm hoping that the Abdis, The Kamaus, The Karisa, The Poghishios, The Omaris, The Nyachaes...(You get the drift..) in the farthest corners of Kenya - From Wajir to Kakuma to Lamu will access Broadband everywhere and anywhere sooner rather than later. Regards AliHusseinPrincipalHussein & Associates Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassimSkype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing,Chiromo Road, Westlands,Nairobi, Kenya. Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/ Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/wangarikabiru%40yahoo.... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
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