Kevit, Please educate me who are KEPSA, KIF, and Centurion Systems(you?) and how they inter-relate to enlighten the conversation on the underlying dynamics. If they have published websites(vision, mission, strategy members, leadership hierarchy... etc)- that would be most useful. Now at the political stage;) then will come motives and finally whatever proposals each could be advancing.... regards, --- On Mon, 7/7/08, Kevit Desai <kevit@centurionsystemltd.com> wrote:

From: Kevit Desai <kevit@centurionsystemltd.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Legislation and Regulation for e-Commerce in Kenya To: "alex.gakuru@yahoo.com" <alex.gakuru@yahoo.com> Cc: "Kevit Desai" <kevit@centurionsystemsltd.com>, "kictanet-lists" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 11:15 PM Hi Alex, The Barcamp was a great success. We do need to congratulate

Skunkworks. Maybe Riaz can tell us how we can scale things up? Innovation is a national theme. So many people are involved.

KEPSA elections for Governors and Directors are in April 09.

Kevit Desai

On 8 Jul 2008, at 07:07, Alex Gakuru <alex.gakuru@yahoo.com> wrote:

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There is so much work outstanding yet so many just want jobs and flashy titles Fat salaries and untaxed allowances Not that they will excel at the jobs No! They will instead obstruct others Use their high office appointments to frustrate real workers and innovators Then lobby for own private interests Using the high offices just acquired

This is how I view issues these days:

1. Start with the politics on the subject 2. Study the motives of involved actors 3. Then get to the details or proposals (If there will be a need after, that is)

"Regulating" akin to "Controlling" is archic Even the future of sector regulation changed.

"Regulating convergence, finding solutions to foster creativity and answering consumer fears about identity theft, fraud and the invasion of their privacy were central questions at the recent Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) ministerial meeting in Seoul, Korea."

Regulators future simplified to concentration on increasing competition,consumer protection;)

The “Seoul Declaration” signed by 39 governments and the European Union on 18 June was announced as a “roadmap for the future of the internet economy. The conference was held on 17-18 June.

<http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/49/28/40839436.pdf>

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Civil Society background paper "Fueling

Creativity,

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Ensuring Consumer and Privacy Protection, Building Confidence and Benefiting from Convergence."

<http://thepublicvoice.org/events/seoul08/cs-paper.pdf>

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Skunkworks may not be a "Registered

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you bet it's value to us is 10x all others combined.

Looking back, one sees little, if any, consumer value proposition from most of already existing associations, except their vocalness advancing "members interests"

regards,

--- On Mon, 7/7/08, Harry Hare <harry@africanedevelopment.org> wrote:

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From: Harry Hare <harry@africanedevelopment.org> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Legislation and Regulation for e-Commerce in Kenya To: alex.gakuru@yahoo.com Cc: secretariat@kif.or.ke, "'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke

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Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 2:18 PM Dear all,

IMHO in this day and age we should not be talking about "regulation" or "regulating" anything, this is concept

Association" but that