Re: [kictanet] Wayleave storm threatens clean energy projects (add ICT Projects to that list)
Warm Leap Year Greetings! To back your citizens engagement thoughts. In the event you are part of the Lenten Campaigns, as we head towards Easter Celebrations, the Jumuiya groups which are prayer groups in our villages, estates have the Lenten booklet. This week 2 , the topic has been "Caring for Our Common Home" in line with Pope Francis message on the environment. Millions of Kenyan families are enlisted through this much broader campaign by the Church. What this boils down to is citizens who are more aware of their environment and relationships, the breakdown and implications for self and future. More so the responsibility now in caring for their environment. Abraham was promised land by God and this explains why land would be dear to most people by default. There are many other campaigns by other institutions including NGOs/CBOs and Government Agencies with themes of the host organisation's interests. This means even when we remove covert or even at times legit political motives, the local citizens have a strong unified voice. The capitalist mentality normally overlooks this element of citizen ownership in the name of - the project is good for the country or for the said people. Yet the affected people do not share in that picture. Some of the drivers include: 1. - Disregard for the local ways "viewed as analogue in this digital age" 2. - View that "They don't get it", "can not get it" and will slow us down 3. - Not having a share in the full information 4. - Too many information sources with different versions 5. - Lack of trust 6. - No recourse in the event things go wrong 7. - Inconsiderate compensation We have numerous successful ventures and they take a lot of time to integrate with the community and extend true benefits as partners. While the investments may be necessary, wayleave using and ICT projects would be paying a heavy price especially due to point 1 & 2. Have a blessed day. Regards/Wangari --- Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth". -------------------------------------------- On Mon, 29/2/16, Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Subject: Re: [kictanet] Wayleave storm threatens clean energy projects (add ICT Projects to that list) To: wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk Cc: "Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu" <chemukoechk@gmail.com> Date: Monday, 29 February, 2016, 11:37 The main problem here is poor stakeholder engagements, and here i'm not talking about the governors and other local leaders, it's about the ordinary citizens who are not being adequately engaged in regards to the developments that occur in their land and which ultimately affect their livelihoods. If a proper stakeholder engagement is done with the citizens affected, these agencies carrying out projects may receive a deserving welcome. When huge corporations and government engage through PPP's they ought to have the affected citizens involved and should offer well structured incentives and the story may get a complete turn around whereby the citizens will be excited to have the projects done in their properties. Take the example of telecommunication masts by Safaricom et al. I have not heard anyone complain about having a mast in their compound because they properly engages and well compensated. It is possible to have peacefully executed processes as long as we stop focusing on leaders but focus more on the citizens. Rosemary Koech-KimwatuTwitter:@TechWakiliTel:+254 718181644/771632344 On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 10:44 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Dear listers This issue of Wayleaves is becoming a serious impediment to rolling out critical infrastructure in our country. Could using the Multi-Stakeholder Engagement Strategy work towards ensuring that communities and county governments become strong partners in these projects? Why are communities becoming an impediment to the very projects that may well uplift their lives? What are we missing? When Electricity Transmission Company (Ketraco) decided to sue some 561 Kajiado landowners last week, its executives were walking down a familiar path. Investors and government agencies working on multi-million shilling energy projects have found themselves in the eye of a wayleave storm.Residents have generally rejected compensation offers and at times resorted to civil protests that have grounded work at the sites. Read on:- http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Wayleave-storm-threatens-clean-energy-pro... 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Well captured Wangari, We are very averse to discussions touching on the social aspects of our lifes if recent discussions on the list are anything to go by, this is why we have wayleave problems. The feet cannot function when the brain is dead. How can electricity pass through an area and locals don't get connected to the grid? social responsibility is a key ingredient for successfull infrastructure related project otherwise Gartner will always be right, 70% of ICT/ Infrastructure Projects end up in failure. Best Regards On Mar 1, 2016 12:36 AM, "WANGARI KABIRU via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Warm Leap Year Greetings!
To back your citizens engagement thoughts.
In the event you are part of the Lenten Campaigns, as we head towards Easter Celebrations, the Jumuiya groups which are prayer groups in our villages, estates have the Lenten booklet. This week 2 , the topic has been "Caring for Our Common Home" in line with Pope Francis message on the environment. Millions of Kenyan families are enlisted through this much broader campaign by the Church.
What this boils down to is citizens who are more aware of their environment and relationships, the breakdown and implications for self and future. More so the responsibility now in caring for their environment. Abraham was promised land by God and this explains why land would be dear to most people by default.
There are many other campaigns by other institutions including NGOs/CBOs and Government Agencies with themes of the host organisation's interests.
This means even when we remove covert or even at times legit political motives, the local citizens have a strong unified voice.
The capitalist mentality normally overlooks this element of citizen ownership in the name of - the project is good for the country or for the said people. Yet the affected people do not share in that picture.
Some of the drivers include: 1. - Disregard for the local ways "viewed as analogue in this digital age" 2. - View that "They don't get it", "can not get it" and will slow us down 3. - Not having a share in the full information 4. - Too many information sources with different versions 5. - Lack of trust 6. - No recourse in the event things go wrong 7. - Inconsiderate compensation
We have numerous successful ventures and they take a lot of time to integrate with the community and extend true benefits as partners.
While the investments may be necessary, wayleave using and ICT projects would be paying a heavy price especially due to point 1 & 2.
Have a blessed day.
Regards/Wangari
--- Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth".
-------------------------------------------- On Mon, 29/2/16, Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Wayleave storm threatens clean energy projects (add ICT Projects to that list) To: wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk Cc: "Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu" <chemukoechk@gmail.com> Date: Monday, 29 February, 2016, 11:37
The main problem here is poor stakeholder engagements, and here i'm not talking about the governors and other local leaders, it's about the ordinary citizens who are not being adequately engaged in regards to the developments that occur in their land and which ultimately affect their livelihoods. If a proper stakeholder engagement is done with the citizens affected, these agencies carrying out projects may receive a deserving welcome. When huge corporations and government engage through PPP's they ought to have the affected citizens involved and should offer well structured incentives and the story may get a complete turn around whereby the citizens will be excited to have the projects done in their properties. Take the example of telecommunication masts by Safaricom et al. I have not heard anyone complain about having a mast in their compound because they properly engages and well compensated. It is possible to have peacefully executed processes as long as we stop focusing on leaders but focus more on the citizens. Rosemary Koech-KimwatuTwitter:@TechWakiliTel:+254 718181644/771632344
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 10:44 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Dear listers This issue of Wayleaves is becoming a serious impediment to rolling out critical infrastructure in our country. Could using the Multi-Stakeholder Engagement Strategy work towards ensuring that communities and county governments become strong partners in these projects? Why are communities becoming an impediment to the very projects that may well uplift their lives? What are we missing? When Electricity Transmission Company (Ketraco) decided to sue some 561 Kajiado landowners last week, its executives were walking down a familiar path.
Investors and government agencies working on multi-million shilling energy projects have found themselves in the eye of a wayleave storm.Residents have generally rejected compensation offers and at times resorted to civil protests that have grounded work at the sites. Read on:-
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Wayleave-storm-threatens-clean-energy-pro...
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Assuming that these issues weren't as prominent before devolution, could it also have something to do with rent seeking - local leaders wanting a cut, despite not owning any of the land in question? I remember Ndemo saying how a Boeing/DHL project was scuttled by local leaders buying up land and wanting to sell it at a mighty profit. Globally, some firms use third parties to acquire land. The likes of Apple, Google, Facebook will rarely approach you directly to acquire land, because they know the cost will immediately shoot up once it is known it is they who are interested. On the other side, there is the plight of the local community, as has been seeing especially in mining projects and the flower farms of Naivasha. It is a tough case here, unless both sides present their issues. On 1 Mar 2016 07:49, "Barrack Otieno via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Well captured Wangari,
We are very averse to discussions touching on the social aspects of our lifes if recent discussions on the list are anything to go by, this is why we have wayleave problems. The feet cannot function when the brain is dead. How can electricity pass through an area and locals don't get connected to the grid? social responsibility is a key ingredient for successfull infrastructure related project otherwise Gartner will always be right, 70% of ICT/ Infrastructure Projects end up in failure.
Best Regards On Mar 1, 2016 12:36 AM, "WANGARI KABIRU via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Warm Leap Year Greetings!
To back your citizens engagement thoughts.
In the event you are part of the Lenten Campaigns, as we head towards Easter Celebrations, the Jumuiya groups which are prayer groups in our villages, estates have the Lenten booklet. This week 2 , the topic has been "Caring for Our Common Home" in line with Pope Francis message on the environment. Millions of Kenyan families are enlisted through this much broader campaign by the Church.
What this boils down to is citizens who are more aware of their environment and relationships, the breakdown and implications for self and future. More so the responsibility now in caring for their environment. Abraham was promised land by God and this explains why land would be dear to most people by default.
There are many other campaigns by other institutions including NGOs/CBOs and Government Agencies with themes of the host organisation's interests.
This means even when we remove covert or even at times legit political motives, the local citizens have a strong unified voice.
The capitalist mentality normally overlooks this element of citizen ownership in the name of - the project is good for the country or for the said people. Yet the affected people do not share in that picture.
Some of the drivers include: 1. - Disregard for the local ways "viewed as analogue in this digital age" 2. - View that "They don't get it", "can not get it" and will slow us down 3. - Not having a share in the full information 4. - Too many information sources with different versions 5. - Lack of trust 6. - No recourse in the event things go wrong 7. - Inconsiderate compensation
We have numerous successful ventures and they take a lot of time to integrate with the community and extend true benefits as partners.
While the investments may be necessary, wayleave using and ICT projects would be paying a heavy price especially due to point 1 & 2.
Have a blessed day.
Regards/Wangari
--- Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth".
-------------------------------------------- On Mon, 29/2/16, Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Wayleave storm threatens clean energy projects (add ICT Projects to that list) To: wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk Cc: "Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu" <chemukoechk@gmail.com> Date: Monday, 29 February, 2016, 11:37
The main problem here is poor stakeholder engagements, and here i'm not talking about the governors and other local leaders, it's about the ordinary citizens who are not being adequately engaged in regards to the developments that occur in their land and which ultimately affect their livelihoods. If a proper stakeholder engagement is done with the citizens affected, these agencies carrying out projects may receive a deserving welcome. When huge corporations and government engage through PPP's they ought to have the affected citizens involved and should offer well structured incentives and the story may get a complete turn around whereby the citizens will be excited to have the projects done in their properties. Take the example of telecommunication masts by Safaricom et al. I have not heard anyone complain about having a mast in their compound because they properly engages and well compensated. It is possible to have peacefully executed processes as long as we stop focusing on leaders but focus more on the citizens. Rosemary Koech-KimwatuTwitter:@TechWakiliTel:+254 718181644/771632344
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 10:44 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Dear listers This issue of Wayleaves is becoming a serious impediment to rolling out critical infrastructure in our country. Could using the Multi-Stakeholder Engagement Strategy work towards ensuring that communities and county governments become strong partners in these projects? Why are communities becoming an impediment to the very projects that may well uplift their lives? What are we missing? When Electricity Transmission Company (Ketraco) decided to sue some 561 Kajiado landowners last week, its executives were walking down a familiar path.
Investors and government agencies working on multi-million shilling energy projects have found themselves in the eye of a wayleave storm.Residents have generally rejected compensation offers and at times resorted to civil protests that have grounded work at the sites. Read on:-
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Wayleave-storm-threatens-clean-energy-pro...
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