@ Edith There was a proposal a while back by CCK to have a program code for broadcast stations. It had recommended a watershed for such content. Not sure what became of it. Maybe CCK can give us a status update. RgdsG From: eadera@idrc.ca Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 07:31:29 +0000 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day-time Vulgar Conversations on Kenya Media CC: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com Isn’t this under CCK docket? And Media Council? Unfortunately, CCK is always silent on such issues on this list, they only advertise upcoming events, but don’t engage in responding to key issues. I do hope it’s different this time and they can tell us how they are regulating content or is it not under their mandate? Edith From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Gilda Odera Sent: June 26, 2013 8:54 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day-time Vulgar Conversations on Kenya Media This definitely needs urgent action. People have spoken about this for ages yet nothing has been done to stop such vulgarity, especially on Radio. Regards, Gilda Odera On Jun 26, 2013, at 8:34 AM, Matunda Nyanchama <mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com> wrote: Friends I am wondering whether the Media Council and CCK shouldn't step up their act. 2 cases in point: (a) FM radio conversations during the morning commute where one hears vulgar language with explicit descriptions (jocular as they may be) of natural and "unnatural" sex acts, bestiality and the like. And matatus faithfully tune in; and you are in the company of people of all manner of age: school kids, young working professionals, aging mothers/fathers, etc. What a shame! (b) In Nairobi recently, I sat down for afternoon coffee with a friend at a restaurant littered (across the walls) with flat screen TVs. Showing on the channel they had tuned into was a movie with explicit love-making ... imagine the rest. Despite our protestations, the restaurant owner's ears appeared deaf! Some people may say we need self-regulation but as a society we need some standards. We need some labeling of content that guide when it can be broadcast. For instance, adult content should be restricted to the time between 9 pm and 5 am; day time content should, of necessity, be family-friendly. Or what say you professionals and regulators? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com Agano Consulting Inc.; www.aganoconsulting.com; Twitter: nmatunda; Skype: okiambe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manage your ICT risks! We are the experts you need! The trusted partners you deserve! Call: +1-888-587-1150 (Canada) +254-20-267-0743 (Kenya) or info@aganoconsulting.com In Kenya - Licensed by Communications Commission of Kenya (CCK) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The best revenge is massive success" - Frank Sinatra ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail, including attachments, may be privileged and may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the addressee(s). Any other distribution, copying, use, or disclosure is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete the message, including any attachments, without making a copy. Thank you. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ggithaiga%40hotmail.co... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.

Edith, Apologies for the delay in responding to this post. We are really busy with the ongoing East African Communications Congress and Exhibition taking place at the KICC. The responsibility of regulating broadcast content falls under two state agencies, CCK and the Kenya Film and Classification Board. The latter is mandated by law to classify all films for general exhibition (including those aired on TV). CCK on the other hand is supposed to regulate all other categories of broadcast content. CCK was vested with this responsibility in 2010 vide an amendment to our establishing legislation. However, a broadcaster went to court challenging the constitutional authority of CCK to regulate broadcasting content. Subsequently CCK was injuncted from exercising this responsibility until the matter is heard and determined. The matter is still before the courts, which means we cannot regulate broadcasting content in the interim. We had already developed the requisite regulatory tools and instruments in readiness to embarking on important responsibility of ensuring, among others, that minors are protected from adult content. A draft programme code, for instance, had been developed in readiness. The said programme code will be subjected to stakeholder consultation, as soon as the said matter is concluded. I hope this sheds light on this matter. Christopher Wambua Manager/Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Division Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448, NAIROBI 00800 KENYA From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua=cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Edith Adera Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 10:31 AM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day-time Vulgar Conversations on Kenya Media Isn’t this under CCK docket? And Media Council? Unfortunately, CCK is always silent on such issues on this list, they only advertise upcoming events, but don’t engage in responding to key issues. I do hope it’s different this time and they can tell us how they are regulating content or is it not under their mandate? Edith From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke]<mailto:[mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke]> On Behalf Of Gilda Odera Sent: June 26, 2013 8:54 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day-time Vulgar Conversations on Kenya Media This definitely needs urgent action. People have spoken about this for ages yet nothing has been done to stop such vulgarity, especially on Radio. Regards, Gilda Odera On Jun 26, 2013, at 8:34 AM, Matunda Nyanchama <mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com<mailto:mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com>> wrote: Friends I am wondering whether the Media Council and CCK shouldn't step up their act. 2 cases in point: (a) FM radio conversations during the morning commute where one hears vulgar language with explicit descriptions (jocular as they may be) of natural and "unnatural" sex acts, bestiality and the like. And matatus faithfully tune in; and you are in the company of people of all manner of age: school kids, young working professionals, aging mothers/fathers, etc. What a shame! (b) In Nairobi recently, I sat down for afternoon coffee with a friend at a restaurant littered (across the walls) with flat screen TVs. Showing on the channel they had tuned into was a movie with explicit love-making ... imagine the rest. Despite our protestations, the restaurant owner's ears appeared deaf! Some people may say we need self-regulation but as a society we need some standards. We need some labeling of content that guide when it can be broadcast. For instance, adult content should be restricted to the time between 9 pm and 5 am; day time content should, of necessity, be family-friendly. Or what say you professionals and regulators? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com<mailto:mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com> Agano Consulting Inc.; www.aganoconsulting.com<http://www.aganoconsulting.com/>; Twitter: nmatunda; <http://twitter.com/#%21/nmatunda> Skype: okiambe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manage your ICT risks! We are the experts you need! The trusted partners you deserve! 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Edith, Only the judiciary can respond to your question. Sent from my iPad On Jun 26, 2013, at 1:47 PM, "Edith Adera" <eadera@idrc.ca<mailto:eadera@idrc.ca>> wrote: Thanks Chris for this information – quite informative. How long has the case been running? Any indication when it’s likely to close now that the judiciary seems to be trying hard to cut down on time? Edith From: Wambua, Christopher [mailto:Wambua@cck.go.ke] Sent: June 26, 2013 11:38 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: RE: [kictanet] Day-time Vulgar Conversations on Kenya Media Edith, Apologies for the delay in responding to this post. We are really busy with the ongoing East African Communications Congress and Exhibition taking place at the KICC. The responsibility of regulating broadcast content falls under two state agencies, CCK and the Kenya Film and Classification Board. The latter is mandated by law to classify all films for general exhibition (including those aired on TV). CCK on the other hand is supposed to regulate all other categories of broadcast content. CCK was vested with this responsibility in 2010 vide an amendment to our establishing legislation. However, a broadcaster went to court challenging the constitutional authority of CCK to regulate broadcasting content. Subsequently CCK was injuncted from exercising this responsibility until the matter is heard and determined. The matter is still before the courts, which means we cannot regulate broadcasting content in the interim. We had already developed the requisite regulatory tools and instruments in readiness to embarking on important responsibility of ensuring, among others, that minors are protected from adult content. A draft programme code, for instance, had been developed in readiness. The said programme code will be subjected to stakeholder consultation, as soon as the said matter is concluded. I hope this sheds light on this matter. Christopher Wambua Manager/Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Division Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448, NAIROBI 00800 KENYA From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua=cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke]<mailto:[mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua=cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke]> On Behalf Of Edith Adera Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 10:31 AM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day-time Vulgar Conversations on Kenya Media Isn’t this under CCK docket? And Media Council? Unfortunately, CCK is always silent on such issues on this list, they only advertise upcoming events, but don’t engage in responding to key issues. I do hope it’s different this time and they can tell us how they are regulating content or is it not under their mandate? Edith From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke]<mailto:[mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke]> On Behalf Of Gilda Odera Sent: June 26, 2013 8:54 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day-time Vulgar Conversations on Kenya Media This definitely needs urgent action. People have spoken about this for ages yet nothing has been done to stop such vulgarity, especially on Radio. Regards, Gilda Odera On Jun 26, 2013, at 8:34 AM, Matunda Nyanchama <mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com<mailto:mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com>> wrote: Friends I am wondering whether the Media Council and CCK shouldn't step up their act. 2 cases in point: (a) FM radio conversations during the morning commute where one hears vulgar language with explicit descriptions (jocular as they may be) of natural and "unnatural" sex acts, bestiality and the like. And matatus faithfully tune in; and you are in the company of people of all manner of age: school kids, young working professionals, aging mothers/fathers, etc. What a shame! (b) In Nairobi recently, I sat down for afternoon coffee with a friend at a restaurant littered (across the walls) with flat screen TVs. Showing on the channel they had tuned into was a movie with explicit love-making ... imagine the rest. Despite our protestations, the restaurant owner's ears appeared deaf! Some people may say we need self-regulation but as a society we need some standards. We need some labeling of content that guide when it can be broadcast. For instance, adult content should be restricted to the time between 9 pm and 5 am; day time content should, of necessity, be family-friendly. Or what say you professionals and regulators? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com<mailto:mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com> Agano Consulting Inc.; www.aganoconsulting.com<http://www.aganoconsulting.com/>; Twitter: nmatunda; <http://twitter.com/#%21/nmatunda> Skype: okiambe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manage your ICT risks! We are the experts you need! The trusted partners you deserve! 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Wait, legalising same-sex marriage leads to daytime adult content in Kenyan broadcast media? I think that the Kenyan broadcasters are quite able to do that without any outside help. As for previous sniping against the immorally lax 'West' - there is no such thing as 'the West', and you'll probably find that there are different ways of regulating the broadcasting of adult content (and how to define 'adult content') in different countries. I'd find it far more useful if we could have a factual discussion of what models exist and how those could perhaps be adapted and implemented. And no, bhang, cocaine and pornography are not the same. On 27 June 2013 10:33, Peter Kenduiywo <pkenduiywo@jambo.co.ke> wrote:

Interesting subject this one. In my view the answers have little to do with regulation. Regulation is merely a “firefighting” tool that works in futility or merely slows down a process that is almost unstoppable. There is such a thing as the Law of Moral Entropy which implies a tendency towards a general break down of social and moral values in society over time. The laws we make continue to fuel this by removing boundaries and offering people more liberal ways to lead their lives but in turn creating greater social and moral disorder. In the US, same sex marriage was outlawed in all states a few decades ago. More and more states are working on the legal frameworks to remove these “barriers to freedom”. With the expanding access to information over the internet and the media, the news is spreading like wildfire and right now, we here smell the smoke; the fire is sure to arrive. It is increasingly becoming more difficult to regulate matters of free will and people’s hearts. To cut a long story short, these matters go beyond what is visible to the eyes of men. What is your faith?

Peter

On 26 June 2013 22:50, Wambua, Christopher <Wambua@cck.go.ke> wrote:

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Edith,

Only the judiciary can respond to your question.

Sent from my iPad

On Jun 26, 2013, at 1:47 PM, "Edith Adera" <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote:

Thanks Chris for this information – quite informative.****

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How long has the case been running? Any indication when it’s likely to close now that the judiciary seems to be trying hard to cut down on time? ****

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Edith****

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*From:* Wambua, Christopher [mailto:Wambua@cck.go.ke] *Sent:* June 26, 2013 11:38 AM *To:* Edith Adera *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* RE: [kictanet] Day-time Vulgar Conversations on Kenya Media*** *

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Edith,****

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Apologies for the delay in responding to this post. We are really busy with the ongoing East African Communications Congress and Exhibition taking place at the KICC.****

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The responsibility of regulating broadcast content falls under two state agencies, CCK and the Kenya Film and Classification Board. The latter is mandated by law to classify all films for general exhibition (including those aired on TV). CCK on the other hand is supposed to regulate all other categories of broadcast content. ****

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CCK was vested with this responsibility in 2010 vide an amendment to our establishing legislation. However, a broadcaster went to court challenging the constitutional authority of CCK to regulate broadcasting content. Subsequently CCK was injuncted from exercising this responsibility until the matter is heard and determined. The matter is still before the courts, which means we cannot regulate broadcasting content in the interim. ****

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We had already developed the requisite regulatory tools and instruments in readiness to embarking on important responsibility of ensuring, among others, that minors are protected from adult content. A draft programme code, for instance, had been developed in readiness. The said programme code will be subjected to stakeholder consultation, as soon as the said matter is concluded. ****

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I hope this sheds light on this matter. ****

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*Christopher Wambua*

*Manager/Communications*

*Consumer and Public Affairs Division *

*Communications Commission of Kenya*

*P.O. Box 14448, NAIROBI 00800*

*KENYA*

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*From:* kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua=cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Edith Adera *Sent:* Wednesday, June 26, 2013 10:31 AM *To:* Wambua, Christopher *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Day-time Vulgar Conversations on Kenya Media*** *

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Isn’t this under CCK docket? And Media Council? Unfortunately, CCK is always silent on such issues on this list, they only advertise upcoming events, but don’t engage in responding to key issues.****

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I do hope it’s different this time and they can tell us how they are regulating content or is it not under their mandate?****

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Edith****

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*From:* kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Gilda Odera *Sent:* June 26, 2013 8:54 AM *To:* Edith Adera *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Day-time Vulgar Conversations on Kenya Media*** *

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This definitely needs urgent action. People have spoken about this for ages yet nothing has been done to stop such vulgarity, especially on Radio.

Regards,****

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Gilda Odera****

On Jun 26, 2013, at 8:34 AM, Matunda Nyanchama < mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com> wrote:****

Friends****

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I am wondering whether the Media Council and CCK shouldn't step up their act. ****

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2 cases in point: ****

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(a) FM radio conversations during the morning commute where one hears vulgar language with explicit descriptions (jocular as they may be) of natural and "unnatural" sex acts, bestiality and the like. And matatus faithfully tune in; and you are in the company of people of all manner of age: school kids, young working professionals, aging mothers/fathers, etc. ****

What a shame!****

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(b) In Nairobi recently, I sat down for afternoon coffee with a friend at a restaurant littered (across the walls) with flat screen TVs. Showing on the channel they had tuned into was a movie with explicit love-making ... imagine the rest. Despite our protestations, the restaurant owner's ears appeared deaf!****

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Some people may say we need self-regulation but as a society we need some standards. We need some labeling of content that guide when it can be broadcast. For instance, adult content should be restricted to the time between 9 pm and 5 am; day time content should, of necessity, be family-friendly.****

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Or what say you professionals and regulators? ****

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Good to hear there is something being done. I do hope the courts will do the right thing. Meanwhile the shareholders of these stations need to see that their stations exercise some moral duty and not wait to be forced. This is a social responsibility. I believe they have children who they hope will grow up to be upright. They must lead by example and stop the nonsense in their stations. I do not believe for one moment that before they degenerated to such levels no one used to tune in and that it is such vulgarity that has increased their bottom line. Absolutely not! Regards, Gilda Odera On Jun 26, 2013, at 11:41 AM, "Wambua, Christopher" <Wambua@cck.go.ke> wrote:

Edith /listers,

Apologies for the delay in responding to this post. We are really busy with the ongoing East African Communications Congress and Exhibition taking place at the KICC.

The responsibility of regulating broadcast content falls under two state agencies, CCK and the Kenya Film and Classification Board. The latter is mandated by law to classify all films for general exhibition (including those aired on TV). CCK on the other hand is supposed to regulate all other categories of broadcast content.

CCK was vested with this responsibility in 2010 vide an amendment to our establishing legislation. However, a broadcaster went to court challenging the constitutional authority of CCK to regulate broadcasting content. Subsequently CCK was injuncted from exercising this responsibility until the matter is heard and determined. The matter is still before the courts, which means we cannot regulate broadcasting content in the interim.

We had already developed the requisite regulatory tools and instruments in readiness to embarking on important responsibility of ensuring, among others, that minors are protected from adult content. A draft programme code, for instance, had been developed in readiness. The said programme code will be subjected to stakeholder consultation, as soon as the said matter is concluded.

I hope this sheds light on this matter.

Christopher Wambua Manager/Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Division Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448, NAIROBI 00800 KENYA

From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua=cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Edith Adera Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 10:31 AM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day-time Vulgar Conversations on Kenya Media

Isn’t this under CCK docket? And Media Council? Unfortunately, CCK is always silent on such issues on this list, they only advertise upcoming events, but don’t engage in responding to key issues.

I do hope it’s different this time and they can tell us how they are regulating content or is it not under their mandate?

Edith

From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Gilda Odera Sent: June 26, 2013 8:54 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day-time Vulgar Conversations on Kenya Media

This definitely needs urgent action. People have spoken about this for ages yet nothing has been done to stop such vulgarity, especially on Radio.

Regards,

Gilda Odera

On Jun 26, 2013, at 8:34 AM, Matunda Nyanchama <mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com> wrote:

Friends

I am wondering whether the Media Council and CCK shouldn't step up their act.

2 cases in point:

(a) FM radio conversations during the morning commute where one hears vulgar language with explicit descriptions (jocular as they may be) of natural and "unnatural" sex acts, bestiality and the like. And matatus faithfully tune in; and you are in the company of people of all manner of age: school kids, young working professionals, aging mothers/fathers, etc.

What a shame!

(b) In Nairobi recently, I sat down for afternoon coffee with a friend at a restaurant littered (across the walls) with flat screen TVs. Showing on the channel they had tuned into was a movie with explicit love-making ... imagine the rest. Despite our protestations, the restaurant owner's ears appeared deaf!

Some people may say we need self-regulation but as a society we need some standards. We need some labeling of content that guide when it can be broadcast. For instance, adult content should be restricted to the time between 9 pm and 5 am; day time content should, of necessity, be family-friendly.

Or what say you professionals and regulators? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com Agano Consulting Inc.; www.aganoconsulting.com; Twitter: nmatunda; Skype: okiambe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manage your ICT risks! We are the experts you need! The trusted partners you deserve! Call: +1-888-587-1150 (Canada) +254-20-267-0743 (Kenya) or info@aganoconsulting.com In Kenya - Licensed by Communications Commission of Kenya (CCK) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The best revenge is massive success" - Frank Sinatra ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail, including attachments, may be privileged and may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the addressee(s). Any other distribution, copying, use, or disclosure is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete the message, including any attachments, without making a copy. Thank you. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet

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The judiciary should possibly be roped in? Edith From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Walubengo J Sent: June 26, 2013 12:24 PM To: Edith Adera Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] FW: Day-time Vulgar Conversations on Kenya Media @Wambua, thnx for the feedback. I hope CCK successfully defends its right to regulate content on our air-waves. I know in developed economies they may find this "un-usual", "un-constitutional", "human-rights issue" etc - but we cannot copy everything from them. This is because whereas their laws are very liberal, their society has mature "self-regulatory" mechanisms/code of conduct which they all adhere to. Pornography has the same effect as drugs (e.g. cocaine, bhang, etc). Once you start on it, you will only want a bigger and stronger "fix". Our FM stations have literally started on it over the last 2years and what we are seeing now is that they are moving from soft-pornography into "hard" porn. And someone must stop it to save our future generation from being "porn" junkies. I know my friends in the media claim they only "sell" what society "demands" and are not to blame. But I think they are getting lazy and rather than seek high-level, brain-consuming topics, they opt of cheap and easier animal/instict-level topics. Lets all support CCK on this one. walu. ________________________________ From: "Wambua, Christopher" <Wambua@cck.go.ke<mailto:Wambua@cck.go.ke>> To: jwalu@yahoo.com<mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com> Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs <CPA@cck.go.ke<mailto:CPA@cck.go.ke>>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 11:41 AM Subject: [kictanet] FW: Day-time Vulgar Conversations on Kenya Media Edith /listers, Apologies for the delay in responding to this post. We are really busy with the ongoing East African Communications Congress and Exhibition taking place at the KICC. The responsibility of regulating broadcast content falls under two state agencies, CCK and the Kenya Film and Classification Board. The latter is mandated by law to classify all films for general exhibition (including those aired on TV). CCK on the other hand is supposed to regulate all other categories of broadcast content. CCK was vested with this responsibility in 2010 vide an amendment to our establishing legislation. However, a broadcaster went to court challenging the constitutional authority of CCK to regulate broadcasting content. Subsequently CCK was injuncted from exercising this responsibility until the matter is heard and determined. The matter is still before the courts, which means we cannot regulate broadcasting content in the interim. We had already developed the requisite regulatory tools and instruments in readiness to embarking on important responsibility of ensuring, among others, that minors are protected from adult content. A draft programme code, for instance, had been developed in readiness. The said programme code will be subjected to stakeholder consultation, as soon as the said matter is concluded. I hope this sheds light on this matter. Christopher Wambua Manager/Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Division Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448, NAIROBI 00800 KENYA From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua=cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke]<mailto:[mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua=cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke]> On Behalf Of Edith Adera Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 10:31 AM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day-time Vulgar Conversations on Kenya Media Isn’t this under CCK docket? And Media Council? Unfortunately, CCK is always silent on such issues on this list, they only advertise upcoming events, but don’t engage in responding to key issues. I do hope it’s different this time and they can tell us how they are regulating content or is it not under their mandate? Edith From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke]<mailto:[mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke]> On Behalf Of Gilda Odera Sent: June 26, 2013 8:54 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day-time Vulgar Conversations on Kenya Media This definitely needs urgent action. People have spoken about this for ages yet nothing has been done to stop such vulgarity, especially on Radio. Regards, Gilda Odera On Jun 26, 2013, at 8:34 AM, Matunda Nyanchama <mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com<mailto:mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com>> wrote: Friends I am wondering whether the Media Council and CCK shouldn't step up their act. 2 cases in point: (a) FM radio conversations during the morning commute where one hears vulgar language with explicit descriptions (jocular as they may be) of natural and "unnatural" sex acts, bestiality and the like. And matatus faithfully tune in; and you are in the company of people of all manner of age: school kids, young working professionals, aging mothers/fathers, etc. What a shame! (b) In Nairobi recently, I sat down for afternoon coffee with a friend at a restaurant littered (across the walls) with flat screen TVs. Showing on the channel they had tuned into was a movie with explicit love-making ... imagine the rest. Despite our protestations, the restaurant owner's ears appeared deaf! Some people may say we need self-regulation but as a society we need some standards. We need some labeling of content that guide when it can be broadcast. For instance, adult content should be restricted to the time between 9 pm and 5 am; day time content should, of necessity, be family-friendly. Or what say you professionals and regulators? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com<mailto:mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com> Agano Consulting Inc.; www.aganoconsulting.com<http://www.aganoconsulting.com/>; Twitter: nmatunda; <http://twitter.com/#%21/nmatunda> Skype: okiambe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manage your ICT risks! We are the experts you need! The trusted partners you deserve! 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@Walu. Currently there are more audience on cyberspace than listeners of FM radios put together. To survive social media cannibalizes stories from traditional media, adds some salt and serves it to the millions of its audience out there. You will find  that most ardent FM radio listeners are also social media fans. Try and visit most of the FM radios social media pages and you will see the reason why I believe social media incites FM radio stories and not the other way round. I don't support the content being aired but I believe to some extent the media mirrors the society, even if you smash the mirror because it depicts your ugliness you will still remain ugly. I think CCK will accomplish very little by regulating FM radios and giving a free reign to social media. I have heard that it is impossible to regulate social media  but I have seen social media groups that have regulated their members. CCK and other stakeholders should think of encouraging self-regulation in both FM radio and social media content. ________________________________ From: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> To: scmutunga@yahoo.com Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs <CPA@cck.go.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wednesday, 26 June 2013 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] FW: Day-time Vulgar Conversations on Kenya Media @Wambua, thnx for the feedback.  I hope CCK successfully defends its right to regulate content on our air-waves.  I know in developed economies they may find this "un-usual", "un-constitutional", "human-rights issue" etc - but we cannot copy everything from them. This is because whereas their laws are very liberal, their society has  mature  "self-regulatory" mechanisms/code of conduct which they all adhere to. Pornography has the same effect as drugs (e.g. cocaine, bhang, etc).  Once you start on it, you will only want a bigger and stronger "fix".  Our FM stations have literally started on it over the last 2years and what we are seeing now is that they are moving from soft-pornography into "hard" porn.  And someone must stop it to save our future generation from being "porn" junkies. I know my friends in the media claim  they only "sell" what society "demands" and are not to blame.  But I think they are getting lazy and rather than seek high-level, brain-consuming topics, they opt of cheap and easier animal/instict-level topics. Lets all support CCK on this one. walu. ________________________________ From: "Wambua, Christopher" <Wambua@cck.go.ke> To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs <CPA@cck.go.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 11:41 AM Subject: [kictanet] FW: Day-time Vulgar Conversations on Kenya Media Edith /listers,   Apologies for the delay in responding to this post. We are really busy with the ongoing East African Communications Congress and Exhibition taking place at the KICC.   The responsibility of regulating broadcast content falls under two state agencies, CCK and the Kenya Film and Classification Board. The latter is mandated by law to classify all films for general exhibition (including those aired on TV). CCK on the other hand is supposed to regulate all other categories of broadcast content.   CCK was vested with this responsibility in 2010 vide an amendment to our establishing legislation. However, a broadcaster went to court challenging the constitutional authority of CCK to regulate broadcasting content. Subsequently CCK was injuncted from exercising this responsibility until the matter is heard and determined. The matter is still before the courts, which means we cannot regulate broadcasting content in the interim.     We had already developed the requisite regulatory tools and instruments in readiness to embarking on important responsibility of ensuring, among others, that minors are protected from adult content.  A draft programme code, for instance, had been developed in readiness. The said programme code will be subjected to stakeholder consultation, as soon as the said matter is concluded.     I hope this sheds light on this matter.     Christopher Wambua Manager/Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Division Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448, NAIROBI 00800 KENYA       From:kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua=cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Edith Adera Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 10:31 AM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day-time Vulgar Conversations on Kenya Media   Isn’t this under CCK docket? And Media Council? Unfortunately, CCK is always silent on such issues on this list, they only advertise upcoming events, but don’t engage in responding to key issues.   I do hope it’s different this time and they can tell us how they are regulating content or is it not under their mandate?   Edith   From:kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Gilda Odera Sent: June 26, 2013 8:54 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day-time Vulgar Conversations on Kenya Media   This definitely needs urgent action. People have spoken about this for ages yet nothing has been done to stop such vulgarity, especially on Radio. Regards,   Gilda Odera On Jun 26, 2013, at 8:34 AM, Matunda Nyanchama <mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com> wrote: Friends

  I am wondering whether the Media Council and CCK shouldn't step up their act.    2 cases in point:    (a) FM radio conversations during the morning commute where one hears vulgar language with explicit descriptions (jocular as they may be) of natural and "unnatural" sex acts, bestiality and the like. And matatus faithfully tune in; and you are in the company of people of all manner of age: school kids, young working professionals, aging mothers/fathers, etc.  

What a shame!   (b) In Nairobi recently, I sat down for afternoon coffee with a friend at a restaurant littered (across the walls) with flat screen TVs. Showing on the channel they had tuned into was a movie with explicit love-making ... imagine the rest. Despite our protestations, the restaurant owner's ears appeared deaf!   Some people may say we need self-regulation but as a society we need some standards. We need some labeling of content that guide when it can be broadcast. For instance, adult content should be restricted to the time between 9 pm and 5 am; day time content should, of necessity, be family-friendly.   Or what say you professionals and regulators?  ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com Agano Consulting Inc.;  www.aganoconsulting.com; Twitter: nmatunda;  Skype: okiambe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manage your ICT risks! We are the experts you need! The trusted partners you deserve! Call: +1-888-587-1150 (Canada) +254-20-267-0743 (Kenya) or info@aganoconsulting.com In Kenya - Licensed by Communications Commission of Kenya (CCK)  ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The best revenge is massive success" - Frank Sinatra ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail, including attachments, may be privileged and may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the addressee(s). Any other distribution, copying, use, or disclosure is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete the message, including any attachments, without making a copy. Thank you.

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Walu,Listers, In year 2001 at Safari Park Hotel in a broadcasting stakeholders meeting, a prominent MD of a Media House told the audience plainly that if they did not like the programmes then they could switch-off the radio/TV. I doubt if the attitude has changed. Unlike social media ,the broadcasters are actually picking our resource(spectrum -a public resource) to mess the future generations of the same owners of the resource. Any student of media will tell you that sex,sports and drugs do sell and sell very well. However as a society do we really wish to promote some of these to our own detriment. No western or even eastern democratic country allows this,.We are  obviously a bad exception. It is a clear PUBLIC POLICY issue urgently seeking a solution. John Kariuki ________________________________ From: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> To: ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs <CPA@cck.go.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wednesday, 26 June 2013, 18:25 Subject: Re: [kictanet] FW: Day-time Vulgar Conversations on Kenya Media @Mutunga aka Mutwiri As a married man, am not against sex or its content per se :-)  I am simply against "commoditizing"/"cheapening" sex and bringing it down to the same level as if you are discussing "which shoes or dress you will wear today or  how different they were from what you wore yesterday". This is  essentially what the FM stations in particular are doing as they try to work-up the number of listeners in a view to increase market share and subsequently adverstising revenue. The thing is that I am over 18 and so I know this part of wisdom. On the other hand my 13year old son does not yet know/understand this and bombarding him with sex stories from 6am in the morning, at lunch time and through the evening will never give him the chance to come to this level of understanding.  Yes, he may still access the same content online (FB, Twitter, etc) - but as a Society, we should never "sanitize" such behaviour by accepting it or tolerating in our public discourse. (and this answers those who always say -change the channel) And if the media cannot protect our kids from this, the Regulator has an obligation to do so. And I am not seeking for HEAVY censorship here from the Regulator. We simply need the regulator to implement what in the industry globally knows as the "watershed schedule?" :-Implement the Timing for when Adult content can be allowed on our broadcasting airwaves. walu. ---------------------------------------------------- From: Isaac Mutunga <scmutunga@yahoo.com> To: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs <CPA@cck.go.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] FW: Day-time Vulgar Conversations on Kenya Media @Walu. Currently there are more audience on cyberspace than listeners of FM radios put together. To survive social media cannibalizes stories from traditional media, adds some salt and serves it to the millions of its audience out there. You will find  that most ardent FM radio listeners are also social media fans. Try and visit most of the FM radios social media pages and you will see the reason why I believe social media incites FM radio stories and not the other way round. I don't support the content being aired but I believe to some extent the media mirrors the society, even if you smash the mirror because it depicts your ugliness you will still remain ugly. I think CCK will accomplish very little by regulating FM radios and giving a free reign to social media. I have heard that it is impossible to regulate social media  but I have seen social media groups that have regulated their members. CCK and other stakeholders should think of encouraging self-regulation in both FM radio and social media content. ________________________________ From: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> To: scmutunga@yahoo.com Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs <CPA@cck.go.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wednesday, 26 June 2013 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] FW: Day-time Vulgar Conversations on Kenya Media @Wambua, thnx for the feedback.  I hope CCK successfully defends its right to regulate content on our air-waves.  I know in developed economies they may find this "un-usual", "un-constitutional", "human-rights issue" etc - but we cannot copy everything from them. This is because whereas their laws are very liberal, their society has  mature  "self-regulatory" mechanisms/code of conduct which they all adhere to. Pornography has the same effect as drugs (e.g. cocaine, bhang, etc).  Once you start on it, you will only want a bigger and stronger "fix".  Our FM stations have literally started on it over the last 2years and what we are seeing now is that they are moving from soft-pornography into "hard" porn.  And someone must stop it to save our future generation from being "porn" junkies. I know my friends in the media claim  they only "sell" what society "demands" and are not to blame.  But I think they are getting lazy and rather than seek high-level, brain-consuming topics, they opt of cheap and easier animal/instict-level topics. Lets all support CCK on this one. walu. ________________________________ From: "Wambua, Christopher" <Wambua@cck.go.ke> To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs <CPA@cck.go.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 11:41 AM Subject: [kictanet] FW: Day-time Vulgar Conversations on Kenya Media Edith /listers,   Apologies for the delay in responding to this post. We are really busy with the ongoing East African Communications Congress and Exhibition taking place at the KICC.   The responsibility of regulating broadcast content falls under two state agencies, CCK and the Kenya Film and Classification Board. The latter is mandated by law to classify all films for general exhibition (including those aired on TV). CCK on the other hand is supposed to regulate all other categories of broadcast content.   CCK was vested with this responsibility in 2010 vide an amendment to our establishing legislation. However, a broadcaster went to court challenging the constitutional authority of CCK to regulate broadcasting content. Subsequently CCK was injuncted from exercising this responsibility until the matter is heard and determined. The matter is still before the courts, which means we cannot regulate broadcasting content in the interim.     We had already developed the requisite regulatory tools and instruments in readiness to embarking on important responsibility of ensuring, among others, that minors are protected from adult content.  A draft programme code, for instance, had been developed in readiness. The said programme code will be subjected to stakeholder consultation, as soon as the said matter is concluded.     I hope this sheds light on this matter.     Christopher Wambua Manager/Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Division Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448, NAIROBI 00800 KENYA       From:kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua=cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Edith Adera Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 10:31 AM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day-time Vulgar Conversations on Kenya Media   Isn’t this under CCK docket? And Media Council? Unfortunately, CCK is always silent on such issues on this list, they only advertise upcoming events, but don’t engage in responding to key issues.   I do hope it’s different this time and they can tell us how they are regulating content or is it not under their mandate?   Edith   From:kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Gilda Odera Sent: June 26, 2013 8:54 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day-time Vulgar Conversations on Kenya Media   This definitely needs urgent action. People have spoken about this for ages yet nothing has been done to stop such vulgarity, especially on Radio. Regards,   Gilda Odera On Jun 26, 2013, at 8:34 AM, Matunda Nyanchama <mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com> wrote: Friends

  I am wondering whether the Media Council and CCK shouldn't step up their act.    2 cases in point:    (a) FM radio conversations during the morning commute where one hears vulgar language with explicit descriptions (jocular as they may be) of natural and "unnatural" sex acts, bestiality and the like. And matatus faithfully tune in; and you are in the company of people of all manner of age: school kids, young working professionals, aging mothers/fathers, etc.  

What a shame!   (b) In Nairobi recently, I sat down for afternoon coffee with a friend at a restaurant littered (across the walls) with flat screen TVs. Showing on the channel they had tuned into was a movie with explicit love-making ... imagine the rest. Despite our protestations, the restaurant owner's ears appeared deaf!   Some people may say we need self-regulation but as a society we need some standards. We need some labeling of content that guide when it can be broadcast. For instance, adult content should be restricted to the time between 9 pm and 5 am; day time content should, of necessity, be family-friendly.   Or what say you professionals and regulators?  ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com Agano Consulting Inc.;  www.aganoconsulting.com; Twitter: nmatunda;  Skype: okiambe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manage your ICT risks! We are the experts you need! The trusted partners you deserve! Call: +1-888-587-1150 (Canada) +254-20-267-0743 (Kenya) or info@aganoconsulting.com In Kenya - Licensed by Communications Commission of Kenya (CCK)  ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The best revenge is massive success" - Frank Sinatra ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail, including attachments, may be privileged and may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the addressee(s). Any other distribution, copying, use, or disclosure is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete the message, including any attachments, without making a copy. Thank you.

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@All Unlike many of you who do nothing but twit (pun intended) I take action first with myself, then my children and finally the larger society.  I only listen to sensible stations when I am driving, it is either Radio Waumini or BBC on the rare occasion that I need to switch the radio on as most times I prefer to listen to myself think, alternatively I have a collection of CD's (yet to upgrade to flash drives). When I am in the car with my wive, children or friend I will avoid turning on the radio and instead indulge in verbal discussion even if the topic is as nonsensical as why the bee can fly against the basic laws of physics (it is all about the vortex - learnt that from my son) Finally if I am in a matatu and they are tuned to those vulgar discussions, I will politely ask them to turn it off or change channels, if they refuse I will incite the person nearest in age to me in the vehicle and if that does not work I will insult the makanga and/or driver as for them to haul back their insults they will have to turn off the radio finally if that fails the speaker nearest to me will suddenly stop working (speakers use 1.5 to 3 volts work out the rest for yourself).  For those of you raising issues about what is showing on TV it is time you learnt to use the features on your expensive TV/decoder that allows you to lock channels, but since many of you have a phobia for reading you will prefer to insist that CCK controls what your children and you are watching from the broadcast end, remember that there are those who benefit from some of those topics and for that reason your TV was supplied with an OFF switch. Wacha kuomba serekali, nenda uombe Governor.   KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: John Kariuki <ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs <CPA@cck.go.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wednesday, 26 June 2013, 20:13 Subject: Re: [kictanet] FW: Day-time Vulgar Conversations on Kenya Media Walu,Listers, In year 2001 at Safari Park Hotel in a broadcasting stakeholders meeting, a prominent MD of a Media House told the audience plainly that if they did not like the programmes then they could switch-off the radio/TV. I doubt if the attitude has changed. Unlike social media ,the broadcasters are actually picking our resource(spectrum -a public resource) to mess the future generations of the same owners of the resource. Any student of media will tell you that sex,sports and drugs do sell and sell very well. However as a society do we really wish to promote some of these to our own detriment. No western or even eastern democratic country allows this,.We are  obviously a bad exception. It is a clear PUBLIC POLICY issue urgently seeking a solution. John Kariuki ________________________________ From: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> To: ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs <CPA@cck.go.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wednesday, 26 June 2013, 18:25 Subject: Re: [kictanet] FW: Day-time Vulgar Conversations on Kenya Media @Mutunga aka Mutwiri As a married man, am not against sex or its content per se :-)  I am simply against "commoditizing"/"cheapening" sex and bringing it down to the same level as if you are discussing "which shoes or dress you will wear today or  how different they were from what you wore yesterday". This is  essentially what the FM stations in particular are doing as they try to work-up the number of listeners in a view to increase market share and subsequently adverstising revenue. The thing is that I am over 18 and so I know this part of wisdom. On the other hand my 13year old son does not yet know/understand this and bombarding him with sex stories from 6am in the morning, at lunch time and through the evening will never give him the chance to come to this level of understanding.  Yes, he may still access the same content online (FB, Twitter, etc) - but as a Society, we should never "sanitize" such behaviour by accepting it or tolerating in our public discourse. (and this answers those who always say -change the channel) And if the media cannot protect our kids from this, the Regulator has an obligation to do so. And I am not seeking for HEAVY censorship here from the Regulator. We simply need the regulator to implement what in the industry globally knows as the "watershed schedule?" :-Implement the Timing for when Adult content can be allowed on our broadcasting airwaves. walu. ---------------------------------------------------- From: Isaac Mutunga <scmutunga@yahoo.com> To: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs <CPA@cck.go.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] FW: Day-time Vulgar Conversations on Kenya Media @Walu. Currently there are more audience on cyberspace than listeners of FM radios put together. To survive social media cannibalizes stories from traditional media, adds some salt and serves it to the millions of its audience out there. You will find  that most ardent FM radio listeners are also social media fans. Try and visit most of the FM radios social media pages and you will see the reason why I believe social media incites FM radio stories and not the other way round. I don't support the content being aired but I believe to some extent the media mirrors the society, even if you smash the mirror because it depicts your ugliness you will still remain ugly. I think CCK will accomplish very little by regulating FM radios and giving a free reign to social media. I have heard that it is impossible to regulate social media  but I have seen social media groups that have regulated their members. CCK and other stakeholders should think of encouraging self-regulation in both FM radio and social media content. ________________________________ From: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> To: scmutunga@yahoo.com Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs <CPA@cck.go.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wednesday, 26 June 2013 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] FW: Day-time Vulgar Conversations on Kenya Media @Wambua, thnx for the feedback.  I hope CCK successfully defends its right to regulate content on our air-waves.  I know in developed economies they may find this "un-usual", "un-constitutional", "human-rights issue" etc - but we cannot copy everything from them. This is because whereas their laws are very liberal, their society has  mature  "self-regulatory" mechanisms/code of conduct which they all adhere to. Pornography has the same effect as drugs (e.g. cocaine, bhang, etc).  Once you start on it, you will only want a bigger and stronger "fix".  Our FM stations have literally started on it over the last 2years and what we are seeing now is that they are moving from soft-pornography into "hard" porn.  And someone must stop it to save our future generation from being "porn" junkies. I know my friends in the media claim  they only "sell" what society "demands" and are not to blame.  But I think they are getting lazy and rather than seek high-level, brain-consuming topics, they opt of cheap and easier animal/instict-level topics. Lets all support CCK on this one. walu. ________________________________ From: "Wambua, Christopher" <Wambua@cck.go.ke> To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs <CPA@cck.go.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 11:41 AM Subject: [kictanet] FW: Day-time Vulgar Conversations on Kenya Media Edith /listers,   Apologies for the delay in responding to this post. We are really busy with the ongoing East African Communications Congress and Exhibition taking place at the KICC.   The responsibility of regulating broadcast content falls under two state agencies, CCK and the Kenya Film and Classification Board. The latter is mandated by law to classify all films for general exhibition (including those aired on TV). CCK on the other hand is supposed to regulate all other categories of broadcast content.   CCK was vested with this responsibility in 2010 vide an amendment to our establishing legislation. However, a broadcaster went to court challenging the constitutional authority of CCK to regulate broadcasting content. Subsequently CCK was injuncted from exercising this responsibility until the matter is heard and determined. The matter is still before the courts, which means we cannot regulate broadcasting content in the interim.     We had already developed the requisite regulatory tools and instruments in readiness to embarking on important responsibility of ensuring, among others, that minors are protected from adult content.  A draft programme code, for instance, had been developed in readiness. The said programme code will be subjected to stakeholder consultation, as soon as the said matter is concluded.     I hope this sheds light on this matter.     Christopher Wambua Manager/Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Division Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448, NAIROBI 00800 KENYA       From:kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua=cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Edith Adera Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 10:31 AM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day-time Vulgar Conversations on Kenya Media   Isn’t this under CCK docket? And Media Council? Unfortunately, CCK is always silent on such issues on this list, they only advertise upcoming events, but don’t engage in responding to key issues.   I do hope it’s different this time and they can tell us how they are regulating content or is it not under their mandate?   Edith   From:kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Gilda Odera Sent: June 26, 2013 8:54 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day-time Vulgar Conversations on Kenya Media   This definitely needs urgent action. People have spoken about this for ages yet nothing has been done to stop such vulgarity, especially on Radio. Regards,   Gilda Odera On Jun 26, 2013, at 8:34 AM, Matunda Nyanchama <mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com> wrote: Friends

  I am wondering whether the Media Council and CCK shouldn't step up their act.    2 cases in point:    (a) FM radio conversations during the morning commute where one hears vulgar language with explicit descriptions (jocular as they may be) of natural and "unnatural" sex acts, bestiality and the like. And matatus faithfully tune in; and you are in the company of people of all manner of age: school kids, young working professionals, aging mothers/fathers, etc.  

What a shame!   (b) In Nairobi recently, I sat down for afternoon coffee with a friend at a restaurant littered (across the walls) with flat screen TVs. Showing on the channel they had tuned into was a movie with explicit love-making ... imagine the rest. Despite our protestations, the restaurant owner's ears appeared deaf!   Some people may say we need self-regulation but as a society we need some standards. We need some labeling of content that guide when it can be broadcast. For instance, adult content should be restricted to the time between 9 pm and 5 am; day time content should, of necessity, be family-friendly.   Or what say you professionals and regulators?  ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com Agano Consulting Inc.;  www.aganoconsulting.com; Twitter: nmatunda;  Skype: okiambe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manage your ICT risks! We are the experts you need! The trusted partners you deserve! Call: +1-888-587-1150 (Canada) +254-20-267-0743 (Kenya) or info@aganoconsulting.com In Kenya - Licensed by Communications Commission of Kenya (CCK)  ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The best revenge is massive success" - Frank Sinatra ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail, including attachments, may be privileged and may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the addressee(s). Any other distribution, copying, use, or disclosure is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete the message, including any attachments, without making a copy. Thank you.

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