Re: [kictanet] Thika Road Debate
While on this subject, I am wondering whether the case (at least at the leadership and management levels) about the high cost of poorly built & maintained roads. I read (back in time) a world bank study that suggested that every unit spent on maintaining roads saves between 3 and 4 units of the same; thus every shilling (in labour + material) invested in maintenance yields savings of 3~4 shillings in vehicle maintenance, lost time, etc. Kenya is NOT poor, but wasteful of resources; and perhaps poor at translating ideas into implementation. Adios. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com Agano Consulting Inc.; www.aganoconsulting.com; Twitter: nmatunda; Skype: okiambe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Be prepared for ICT security failures & know how to respond when they happen! Call: +1-888-587-1150 or info@aganoconsulting.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The best revenge is massive success" - Frank Sinatra----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail, including attachments, may be privileged and may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the addressee(s). Any other distribution, copying, use, or disclosure is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete the message, including any attachments, without making a copy. Thank you.
All said and done our roads don't have the drainage system at all. We need to look at our neighbors Tanzania and Rwanda is a good example. Here we spent 200b and when it rains we need 80b to repair is that not a scandal in itself or wasteful? Kind regards Per-Erick ________________________________ From: Matunda Nyanchama <mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com> To: Per-Erick Mulamba <peremul@yahoo.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 8:08 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Thika Road Debate While on this subject, I am wondering whether the case (at least at the leadership and management levels) about the high cost of poorly built & maintained roads. I read (back in time) a world bank study that suggested that every unit spent on maintaining roads saves between 3 and 4 units of the same; thus every shilling (in labour + material) invested in maintenance yields savings of 3~4 shillings in vehicle maintenance, lost time, etc. Kenya is NOT poor, but wasteful of resources; and perhaps poor at translating ideas into implementation. Adios. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com Agano Consulting Inc.; www.aganoconsulting.com; Twitter: nmatunda; Skype: okiambe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Be prepared for ICT security failures & know how to respond when they happen! Call: +1-888-587-1150 or info@aganoconsulting.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The best revenge is massive success" - Frank Sinatra----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail, including attachments, may be privileged and may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the addressee(s). Any other distribution, copying, use, or disclosure is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete the message, including any attachments, without making a copy. Thank you. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/peremul%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
All these different bodies are attempts at using elastoplast to fix a broken bone. All these bodies can easily be put under a single body and they serve as departments. That story of responsibility is not palatable. You are only responsible under your own corporate body? If anything this breeds irresponsibility as some of these bosses answer to themselves. And when is the railway being revived? On Jun 30, 2012 1:20 PM, "Per-erick Mulamba" <peremul@yahoo.com> wrote:
All said and done our roads don't have the drainage system at all. We need to look at our neighbors Tanzania and Rwanda is a good example. Here we spent 200b and when it rains we need 80b to repair is that not a scandal in itself or wasteful? Kind regards Per-Erick
------------------------------ *From:* Matunda Nyanchama <mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com> *To:* Per-Erick Mulamba <peremul@yahoo.com> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Thursday, June 28, 2012 8:08 PM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Thika Road Debate
While on this subject, I am wondering whether the case (at least at the leadership and management levels) about the high cost of poorly built & maintained roads. I read (back in time) a world bank study that suggested that every unit spent on maintaining roads saves between 3 and 4 units of the same; thus every shilling (in labour + material) invested in maintenance yields savings of 3~4 shillings in vehicle maintenance, lost time, etc.
Kenya is NOT poor, but wasteful of resources; and perhaps poor at translating ideas into implementation.
Adios.
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Interesting you speak of TZ. Last year I presented at workshop in Dar (thanks to the ISACA Chapter there) and on our way to the airport, there was a huge downpour! We saw a gradual rise in water levels, almost submerging our the small vehicle we were riding in; we were luck that the driver knew some side detours that gradually too us to higher ground even as we witnessed people perch on the roofs of their cars. In our case, we managed to stay dry with shoes off (placed on the seats) and our feet perched in higher places, including the dashboard. Scary! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------ Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com Agano Consulting Inc.; www.aganoconsulting.com; Twitter: <http://twitter.com/#%21/nmatunda> nmatunda; Skype: okiambe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------ Be prepared to face ICT Security failures & know how to respond when they happen! Call: +1-888-587-1150 or info@aganoconsulting.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------- "The best revenge is massive success" - Frank Sinatra ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------- This e-mail, including attachments, may be privileged and may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the addressee(s). Any other distribution, copying, use, or disclosure is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete the message, including any attachments, without making a copy. Thank you. From: Per-erick Mulamba [mailto:peremul@yahoo.com] Sent: June-30-12 6:09 AM To: Matunda Nyanchama Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Thika Road Debate All said and done our roads don't have the drainage system at all. We need to look at our neighbors Tanzania and Rwanda is a good example. Here we spent 200b and when it rains we need 80b to repair is that not a scandal in itself or wasteful? Kind regards Per-Erick _____ From: Matunda Nyanchama <mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com> To: Per-Erick Mulamba <peremul@yahoo.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 8:08 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Thika Road Debate While on this subject, I am wondering whether the case (at least at the leadership and management levels) about the high cost of poorly built & maintained roads. I read (back in time) a world bank study that suggested that every unit spent on maintaining roads saves between 3 and 4 units of the same; thus every shilling (in labour + material) invested in maintenance yields savings of 3~4 shillings in vehicle maintenance, lost time, etc. Kenya is NOT poor, but wasteful of resources; and perhaps poor at translating ideas into implementation. Adios. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------ Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com Agano Consulting Inc.; <http://www.aganoconsulting.com/> www.aganoconsulting.com; Twitter: <http://twitter.com/#%21/nmatunda> nmatunda; Skype: okiambe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------ Be prepared for ICT security failures & know how to respond when they happen! Call: +1-888-587-1150 or info@aganoconsulting.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------ "The best revenge is massive success" - Frank Sinatra ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------- This e-mail, including attachments, may be privileged and may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the addressee(s). 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I think our country suffers from a "personality disorder". Some sections of the economy (private sector and Govt) really try to work dilligently as possible, whilst other sectors just do shoddy jobs and drag the country back. Why should we spend 100b shillings each year on new roads, some of which do not measure to quality? Yet create no drainage? Even smaller cities in Africa (I agree we should place our bar of measurement to much larger cities), do have some better roads and drainages. We have the "tabia" of creating roads and no drainages or open trenches that soon fill with trash. Westlands for instance, the moment it drizzles, you have no idea whether u will sink in a pothole or not, and you just wonder where KURA is given the populace a suburb like Westlands or even Eastleigh handles in a day. If we streamline roads in Eastligh with proper markings, would it not make it easier for KRA to deepen its tax collections from the traders there? Take an example of Waiyaki way, its barely a year since it was recarpeted... if you go to the ABC roundabout when you turn from James Gichuru coming towards westlands, the road already is developing huge potholes..... and i think it was signed off.. In a few months it will need a "kiraka"... I have been amazed how smaller cities like Dakar have good roads, as much as i may have issues with their drainage, but u can just feel a road that feels good. It all boils down to proper road design, planning and maintenance. As the Swahili say, usipoziba ufa, utajenga ukuta. On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 12:51 AM, Matunda Nyanchama < mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com> wrote:
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Last year I presented at workshop in Dar (thanks to the ISACA Chapter there) and on our way to the airport, there was a huge downpour! We saw a gradual rise in water levels, almost submerging our the small vehicle we were riding in; we were luck that the driver knew some side detours that gradually too us to higher ground even as we witnessed people perch on the roofs of their cars. ****
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In our case, we managed to stay dry with shoes off (placed on the seats) and our feet perched in higher places, including the dashboard. ****
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Scary!****
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*From:* Per-erick Mulamba [mailto:peremul@yahoo.com] *Sent:* June-30-12 6:09 AM *To:* Matunda Nyanchama
*Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Thika Road Debate****
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All said and done our roads don't have the drainage system at all. We need to look at our neighbors Tanzania and Rwanda is a good example. Here we spent 200b and when it rains we need 80b to repair is that not a scandal in itself or wasteful?
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Kind regards Per-Erick****
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*From:* Matunda Nyanchama <mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com> *To:* Per-Erick Mulamba <peremul@yahoo.com> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Thursday, June 28, 2012 8:08 PM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Thika Road Debate****
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While on this subject, I am wondering whether the case (at least at the leadership and management levels) about the high cost of poorly built & maintained roads. I read (back in time) a world bank study that suggested that every unit spent on maintaining roads saves between 3 and 4 units of the same; thus every shilling (in labour + material) invested in maintenance yields savings of 3~4 shillings in vehicle maintenance, lost time, etc.****
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Kenya is NOT poor, but wasteful of resources; and perhaps poor at translating ideas into implementation.****
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Adios.****
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Andrew Gesora -
Mark Mwangi -
Matunda Nyanchama -
Per-erick Mulamba