The day we will realize that our 'hardware' is basically the same (Mzungu, Jaluo, Kikuyu, Kamba, and Luhya etc 'hardware') and that the 'software' we pack is the problem, then we will respect one another. The 'software' we pack is basically programmed by the environment we live in hence we need to teach our children to respect fellow human beings regardless of tribe or race.
The kind of environment we live, that is, at home, office and with our friends (the company we keep) greatly affect our attitude and behaviour towards others.
Yes, Walu, we can make a difference if we start with ourselves!
L
 



----- Original Message ----
From: "Wanjira, Alice Munyua" <wanjira@cck.go.ke>
To: mleonardo@yahoo.com
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 8:14:10 AM
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya loses the ICANN meeting scheduled for November2008


Walu and all

And its not just the ICANN meeting, we have lost UPU among many others.

alice



-----Original Message-----
From: kictanet-bounces+wanjira=cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke on behalf of John Walubengo
Sent: Wed 27/02/2008 19:56
To: Wanjira, Alice Munyua
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya loses the ICANN meeting scheduled for November2008

Hey all,

Apologies for having to resurrect this post.  I had not
appreciated the full impact of Kenya missing out on the
above opportunity until after I attended the recent
Internet Governance Forum (IGF) preparatory meeting in GVA.

I was totally overwhelmed by the dissapointment felt by all
delegates, but especially the AFRICAN delegates who had
voted for Kenya to hold the above conference. The lose was
definately more AFRICAN than KENYAN. How ironic!

It pains me to note that as other nations and states are
fighting about partitioning and sharing the Internet (the
ultimate resource) we are still busy fighting about and
partitioning "ancestral" land. 

I want to be the first one to stand accused for having
surrendered my country to a small group of politicians who
seem determined to drive the remaining little sense of our
nationhood out of our minds. And I want also want to remind
each of us, that it is time reclaim our right to be Kenyan
- the Pride of Africa? Each of us must take up this
challenge in their own little way (use your business,
networks, friends on both sides, influence, whatever) in
order to pull us away from that point of no return.

Sorry Alice i now this is not ICT but I just didnt know how
important Kenya was until i stepped out of it after Dec
31st 2007 and really needed to ventilate abit.

walu.







--- waudo siganga <emailsignet@mailcan.com> wrote:

> I concur with your suggestions Njeri. It's unfortunate to
> lose
> hosting the ICANN meeting in November but let's try and
> make the
> best of it.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Waudo
> On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:59:52 +0300, "Njeri Rionge"
> <njeri.rionge@igniteco
> nsulting.co.ke> said:
>
>   Colleagues,
>   Kenya needs to get the decisions around the National
> Coalition
>   or whatever the solution agreed upon as soon as
> possible.
>   ICANN is limited on planning time as regards managing
> the
>   possible insecurity of holding a meeting in a location
> where
>   security is a concern for the larger internet
> community. In
>   fact this should be said the other way, we cannot
> (ICANN) risk
>   having a meeting in a location where the internet
> community
>   will not attend, due to the current status which today
> seems
>   not clear since the media itself has now been quiet on
> the
>   possible security issue, although indicates a possible
> forward
>   improvement which is not indicative of stability etc.
> ICANN
>   public meetings are very critical in engaging
> participants
>   from an Internationalization perspective. Therefore,
> the
>   decision for the cancellation was based on the turn of
> events
>   that took place in Kenyan.
>   So, like Alice I am hopeful that we can at list host
> the 10th
>   Anniversary Internet party which can possibly be held
> away
>   from the actual ICANN conference and broadcasted to the
> rest
>   of the world from Kenya, although they are no
> guarantees. This
>   is harder to do and in fact affects budgets etc.
>   This said, the party was all planned for the Kenya
> meeting
>   this November 2008. Which currently has been scheduled
> to
>   happen in another unannounced location. I am hoping
> that a
>   country in the Sub Sahara will put in a bid quickly
> enough,
>   otherwise we will hold the meeting in a location that
> has
>   already held this meeting before....
>   Njeri,
>   On 2/5/08 8:35 AM, "alice" <alice@apc.org> wrote:
>   > Hi All
>   >
>   > Despite our current troubles we  still hope that
> ICANN will
>   choose Kenya
>   > to celebrate its birthday at the ICANN Africa meeting
>   scheduled for
>   > November 2008.
>   > Note dates for this years IGF have changed. Now
> taking place
>   in December.
>   >
>   > alice
>   >
>   >
>   > -------- Original Message --------
>   > Subject:  [AfrICANN-discuss] Internet Governance:
> ICANN,
>   Security And
>   > Nation States
>   > Date:  Mon, 4 Feb 2008 20:48:23 +0100
>   > From:  Anne-Rachel Inné <annerachel@gmail.com>
>   > Reply-To:  africann@afrinic.net
>   > To:  africann@afrinic.net
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > Intellectual Property Watch
>   >
>   >
>   >     28 January 2008
>   >
>   >
>   >       Internet Governance: ICANN, Security And Nation
> States
>   >
>   > By Monika Ermert for /Intellectual Property Watch/
>   > The future of the Internet Corporation for Assigned
> Names
>   and Numbers
>   > (ICANN) will remain an important topic in Internet
>   governance in 2008,
>   > the tenth anniversary of the private global
> coordination
>   body for
>   > Internet addresses and domain names.
>   >
>   > Yet Internet governance experts also expect security
> in its
>   different
>   > facets to be on the rise in Internet governance
> debates and
>   point to the
>   > further growing interest of nation states in
> exercising
>   their sovereign
>   > governance rights in cyberspace. And it is
> increasingly the
>   case that
>   > governance of the Internet can affect access to
> online
>   content.
>   >
>   > The Internet Governance Forum (IGF)
>   > [1]<http://www.intgovforum.org/index.htm> organised
> by the
>   United Nations -
>   > which in December will hold its third gathering in
> New Delhi
>   - likely
>   > will see more issues related to cybercriminality,
> anonymity
>   and privacy,
>   > said Jeanette Hofmann, researcher at the Centre for
> Analysis
>   of Risk and
>   > Regulation at the London School of Economics, and at
> the
>   > Wissenschaftszentrum Berlin für Sozialforschung, and
> member
>   of the IGF
>   > Advisory Group.
>   >
>   > New ICANN Board Chairman Peter Dengate Thrush
> announced a
>   "busy year"
>   >
> 
>
[2]<http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-03jan08.ht
>   m> and a
>   > "birthday party" to take place at the annual meeting
> of
>   ICANN, which
>   > will be held not in the United States but in Africa
> in
>   November 2008.
>   > The location for the birthday party may be seen as a
> small
>   symbol for
>   > ICANN's emphasis on its declared internationality. It
> has
>   been the
>   > United States' privileged position in ICANN and root
> server
>   oversight
>   > that gave the primary original impulse for the
> Internet
>   governance
>   > debate that has evolved so much over the past few
> years.
>   >
>   > Weakening US Influence over Internet?
>   >
>   > More and more governments have called for change in
> the
>   oversight
>   > structure for this tiny yet core part of the Internet
> and
>   will call for
>   > that again in the newly launched consultation of the
> US
>   Commerce
>   > Department National Telecommunications and
> Information
>   Administration
>   > (NTIA) on "The Continued Transition of the Technical
>   Coordination and
>   > Management of the Internet's Domain Name and
> Addressing
>   System."
>   >
>   > The consultation (deadline for statements 15
> February) is
>   part of the
>   > midterm review of the "Joint Project Agreement (JPA)"
> - the
>   current
>
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