Re: [kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 49, Issue 48
Re radical ideas and kids. Mzalendo grew and went live when I was pregnant with my first child, Ushahidi was born when I had a 10 month old and I quit my job to build the organization behind it when I had another on the way, expecting number 3 after recently joining Google and I'm sure I will continue to have new ideas there :-) Ory On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 8:47 AM, <kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke>wrote:
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Message: 1 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 06:06:34 +0000 From: "david.simbiri@lixnet.net" <david.simbiri@lixnet.net> To: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] mhealth breakfast Message-ID: <mailman.102.1308034036.28988.kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=UTF-8
I confirm my attendance.
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------Original message------ From: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> To: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 5:29:18 AM GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: [kictanet] mhealth breakfast
Listers, My mistake on the date of this event. Veneue is the same tomorrow the 15th of June and not the 16th.
Regards
Ndemo.
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Message: 2 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:18:41 +0300 From: Gakiria <gakiria@gmail.com> To: "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mhealth and medical cloud services Message-ID: <BANLkTimdeU58mP20k74a7tAejgD9u0K0Gw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
confirmed, will attend Andrew
I would like to attend. ?Thanks
Suraj Shah Corporate Affairs Manager Intel
On 6/14/11 5:00 AM, "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Listers, The breakfast meeting on medical cloud services will be at the Serena on
On Tuesday, 14 June 2011, Suraj Shah <suraj@surajshah.co.ke> wrote: the
16th morning starting at the 7am. ?The sponsor has graciously accepted to have at list 10 of you.
Please let us have confirmations on the list. ?They will respond to you directly. ?I will not involve myself with the details of this invite.
Ndemo.
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Message: 3 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:23:58 +0300 From: "Rad!" <conradakunga@gmail.com> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India on IT Message-ID: <BANLkTims+FqrUcG+Pmu+GmFdbiFYh9cNSQ@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
I must challenge you there Robert. What do rent and kids have to do with creativity, drive and passion? Jonathan Ive, the principal designer of the iMac, titanium and aluminum PowerBook G4, MacBook, unibody MacBook Pro, iPod, iPhone, and iPad has a wife and two kids. Twins. Doesn't seem to have slowed him down any.
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:26 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi The first step is to have a passion for what you want to do, then
identify a problem that needs solving and solve it all for the fun and passion of it not the money.
Mariga, Ronaldo and the rest of the ilk first played soccer for the fun and passion of the game the scouts, enforcements and money then followed. Regards PS. I was recently reminded that once you have rent to pay your ability to do anything new diminishes exponentially and once the kids come along forget about coming up with any radical, industry changing application or business concept. If the idea was not incubated when you where in high school or campus then join the large band of IT vendors as the other train has left.
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
________________________________ From: Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Mon, 13 June, 2011 9:01:18 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India on IT
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 8:29 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
This will give you an insight into how we can go from being a talk shop
and baby cries and get down to doing some serious productive work.
Without fear I will repeat what I commented previously "money follows great ideas; period". I also like a comment from a Google employee, in one of the documentaries, "Google is an extension of college"
What's the first step?
-- With Regards,
Phares Kariuki
| T: +254 720 406 093 | E: pkariuki@gmail.com | Twitter: kaboro | Skype: kariukiphares | B: http://www.kaboro.com/ |
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Dear Ory I wrote my dissertation with two kids on my lap. My first baby was born in Nairobi while I was doing my fieldwork. Many kictaneters were around to assist, including the wonderful alice munyua. I just had my third, and I think they somehow make me more motivated and creative. Hongera mothers! warigia On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Ory Okolloh <ookolloh@gmail.com> wrote:
Re radical ideas and kids.
Mzalendo grew and went live when I was pregnant with my first child, Ushahidi was born when I had a 10 month old and I quit my job to build the organization behind it when I had another on the way, expecting number 3 after recently joining Google and I'm sure I will continue to have new ideas there :-)
Ory
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Message: 1 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 06:06:34 +0000 From: "david.simbiri@lixnet.net" <david.simbiri@lixnet.net> To: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] mhealth breakfast Message-ID: <mailman.102.1308034036.28988.kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=UTF-8
I confirm my attendance.
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------Original message------ From: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> To: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 5:29:18 AM GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: [kictanet] mhealth breakfast
Listers, My mistake on the date of this event. Veneue is the same tomorrow the 15th of June and not the 16th.
Regards
Ndemo.
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-----Original Message----- From: "Harry Delano" <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> Sender: kictanet-bounces+bitange=jambo.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 20:20:46 To: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Reply-To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India on IT
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Message: 2 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:18:41 +0300 From: Gakiria <gakiria@gmail.com> To: "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mhealth and medical cloud services Message-ID: <BANLkTimdeU58mP20k74a7tAejgD9u0K0Gw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
confirmed, will attend Andrew
On Tuesday, 14 June 2011, Suraj Shah <suraj@surajshah.co.ke> wrote:
I would like to attend. ?Thanks
Suraj Shah Corporate Affairs Manager Intel
On 6/14/11 5:00 AM, "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Listers, The breakfast meeting on medical cloud services will be at the Serena on the 16th morning starting at the 7am. ?The sponsor has graciously accepted to have at list 10 of you.
Please let us have confirmations on the list. ?They will respond to you directly. ?I will not involve myself with the details of this invite.
Ndemo.
Sent from my BlackBerry?
-----Original Message----- From: "Harry Delano" <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> Sender: kictanet-bounces+bitange=jambo.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 20:20:46 To: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Reply-To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India on IT
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Message: 3 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:23:58 +0300 From: "Rad!" <conradakunga@gmail.com> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India on IT Message-ID: <BANLkTims+FqrUcG+Pmu+GmFdbiFYh9cNSQ@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
I must challenge you there Robert. What do rent and kids have to do with creativity, drive and passion? Jonathan Ive, the principal designer of the iMac, titanium and aluminum PowerBook G4, MacBook, unibody MacBook Pro, iPod, iPhone, and iPad has a wife and two kids. Twins. Doesn't seem to have slowed him down any.
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:26 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi The first step is to have a passion for what you want to do, then
identify a problem that needs solving and solve it all for the fun and passion of it not the money.
Mariga, Ronaldo and the rest of the ilk first played soccer for the fun and passion of the game the scouts, enforcements and money then followed. Regards PS. I was recently reminded that once you have rent to pay your ability to do anything new diminishes exponentially and once the kids come along forget about coming up with any radical, industry changing application or business concept. If the idea was not incubated when you where in high school or campus then join the large band of IT vendors as the other train has left.
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
________________________________ From: Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Mon, 13 June, 2011 9:01:18 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India on IT
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 8:29 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
This will give you an insight into how we can go from being a talk shop
and baby cries and get down to doing some serious productive work.
Without fear I will repeat what I commented previously "money follows great ideas; period". I also like a comment from a Google employee, in one of the documentaries, "Google is an extension of college"
What's the first step?
-- With Regards,
Phares Kariuki
| T: +254 720 406 093 | E: pkariuki@gmail.com | Twitter: kaboro | Skype: kariukiphares | B: http://www.kaboro.com/ |
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Ory, we all know women can multi-task *much* better than guys :) On 14 June 2011 11:24, Ory Okolloh <ookolloh@gmail.com> wrote:
Re radical ideas and kids.
Mzalendo grew and went live when I was pregnant with my first child, Ushahidi was born when I had a 10 month old and I quit my job to build the organization behind it when I had another on the way, expecting number 3 after recently joining Google and I'm sure I will continue to have new ideas there :-)
Ory
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Message: 1 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 06:06:34 +0000 From: "david.simbiri@lixnet.net" <david.simbiri@lixnet.net> To: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] mhealth breakfast Message-ID: <mailman.102.1308034036.28988.kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=UTF-8
I confirm my attendance.
---------- Sent from my Nokia Phone
------Original message------ From: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> To: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 5:29:18 AM GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: [kictanet] mhealth breakfast
Listers, My mistake on the date of this event. Veneue is the same tomorrow the 15th of June and not the 16th.
Regards
Ndemo.
Sent from my BlackBerry?
-----Original Message----- From: "Harry Delano" <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> Sender: kictanet-bounces+bitange=jambo.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 20:20:46 To: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Reply-To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India on IT
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Message: 2 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:18:41 +0300 From: Gakiria <gakiria@gmail.com> To: "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mhealth and medical cloud services Message-ID: <BANLkTimdeU58mP20k74a7tAejgD9u0K0Gw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
confirmed, will attend Andrew
On Tuesday, 14 June 2011, Suraj Shah <suraj@surajshah.co.ke> wrote:
I would like to attend. ?Thanks
Suraj Shah Corporate Affairs Manager Intel
On 6/14/11 5:00 AM, "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Listers, The breakfast meeting on medical cloud services will be at the Serena on the 16th morning starting at the 7am. ?The sponsor has graciously accepted to have at list 10 of you.
Please let us have confirmations on the list. ?They will respond to you directly. ?I will not involve myself with the details of this invite.
Ndemo.
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Message: 3 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:23:58 +0300 From: "Rad!" <conradakunga@gmail.com> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India on IT Message-ID: <BANLkTims+FqrUcG+Pmu+GmFdbiFYh9cNSQ@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
I must challenge you there Robert. What do rent and kids have to do with creativity, drive and passion? Jonathan Ive, the principal designer of the iMac, titanium and aluminum PowerBook G4, MacBook, unibody MacBook Pro, iPod, iPhone, and iPad has a wife and two kids. Twins. Doesn't seem to have slowed him down any.
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:26 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi The first step is to have a passion for what you want to do, then
identify a problem that needs solving and solve it all for the fun and passion of it not the money.
Mariga, Ronaldo and the rest of the ilk first played soccer for the fun and passion of the game the scouts, enforcements and money then followed. Regards PS. I was recently reminded that once you have rent to pay your ability to do anything new diminishes exponentially and once the kids come along forget about coming up with any radical, industry changing application or business concept. If the idea was not incubated when you where in high school or campus then join the large band of IT vendors as the other train has left.
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
________________________________ From: Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Mon, 13 June, 2011 9:01:18 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India on IT
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 8:29 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
This will give you an insight into how we can go from being a talk shop
and baby cries and get down to doing some serious productive work.
Without fear I will repeat what I commented previously "money follows great ideas; period". I also like a comment from a Google employee, in one of the documentaries, "Google is an extension of college"
What's the first step?
-- With Regards,
Phares Kariuki
| T: +254 720 406 093 | E: pkariuki@gmail.com | Twitter: kaboro | Skype: kariukiphares | B: http://www.kaboro.com/ |
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Hi, It seems my comment about those older than 24 to give up on making a mark in society, apart from political, touched a raw nerve. Please do not get disillusioned the following avenues still exist for you; 1. Become an angel investor to the under 24 year old's (Google received US $100,000/-, do the ROI) 2. Mentor and/or incubate the under 24 year old's (Sam please share) 3. Encourage and motivate your children, nephews and nieces who are under 16 years to take up development (Mark Zuckerberg was writing serious code he had taught himself when he was only 9 years old & turned down a job offers from AOL & Microsoft when he was in high school, - what is your 9 year old doing?) Even as old as we are we still can be part of the next big non-political revolution so long as we accept the fact that we shall be ball "boys", coaches, managers, financiers and onlookers but not player on the pitch which is why I continue to campaign for the post of Post Master General, king of snail mail. FYI: Mark Zuckerberg is another one in the long line including Bill Gates, Microsoft owner, and Steve Jobs, Apple CEO and largest shareholder of Disney. These guys keep reinforcing the myth that college graduates become employees in companies owned by college dropouts, who become billionaires. Rather than becoming dependable citizens looking for jobs, people like Mark Zuckerberg believe in becoming deviants, who go on to create jobs, and possess the cheek to do so without inheriting big bank accounts. One Mark Zuckerberg is sufficient to set millions of kids dreaming and doing awful damage to the tenets of civilized society, as we know it. Good boys should go through college, study as much as they can, and lose as much of their originality as they can, to become solid dependable workers for our industrial system. People like Mark Zuckerberg , just by their existence, incite others to think, something that has always been disapproved by good society, starting with the burning of Copernicus. http://www.clevelcrossing.com/article/900107/Mark-Zuckerberg-Facebook-Owner-... Regards PS. Do despair, in so long as developing that killer up is concerned but be re-energised by the other prevailing opportunities. P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: Andrea Bohnstedt <andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Tue, 14 June, 2011 12:11:13 Subject: Re: [kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 49, Issue 48 Ory, we all know women can multi-task *much* better than guys :) On 14 June 2011 11:24, Ory Okolloh <ookolloh@gmail.com> wrote: Re radical ideas and kids.
Mzalendo grew and went live when I was pregnant with my first child, Ushahidi was born when I had a 10 month old and I quit my job to build the organization behind it when I had another on the way, expecting number 3 after recently joining Google and I'm sure I will continue to have new ideas there :-)
Ory
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Message: 1 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 06:06:34 +0000 From: "david.simbiri@lixnet.net" <david.simbiri@lixnet.net> To: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] mhealth breakfast Message-ID: <mailman.102.1308034036.28988.kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=UTF-8
I confirm my attendance.
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------Original message------ From: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> To: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 5:29:18 AM GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: [kictanet] mhealth breakfast
Listers, My mistake on the date of this event. Veneue is the same tomorrow the 15th of June and not the 16th.
Regards
Ndemo.
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-----Original Message----- From: "Harry Delano" <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> Sender: kictanet-bounces+bitange=jambo.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 20:20:46 To: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Reply-To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India on IT
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Message: 2 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:18:41 +0300 From: Gakiria <gakiria@gmail.com> To: "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mhealth and medical cloud services Message-ID: <BANLkTimdeU58mP20k74a7tAejgD9u0K0Gw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
confirmed, will attend Andrew
On Tuesday, 14 June 2011, Suraj Shah <suraj@surajshah.co.ke> wrote:
I would like to attend. ?Thanks
Suraj Shah Corporate Affairs Manager Intel
On 6/14/11 5:00 AM, "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Listers, The breakfast meeting on medical cloud services will be at the Serena on
the
16th morning starting at the 7am. ?The sponsor has graciously accepted to have at list 10 of you.
Please let us have confirmations on the list. ?They will respond to you directly. ?I will not involve myself with the details of this invite.
Ndemo.
Sent from my BlackBerry?
-----Original Message----- From: "Harry Delano" <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> Sender: kictanet-bounces+bitange=jambo.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 20:20:46 To: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Reply-To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India on IT
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Message: 3 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:23:58 +0300 From: "Rad!" <conradakunga@gmail.com> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India on IT Message-ID: <BANLkTims+FqrUcG+Pmu+GmFdbiFYh9cNSQ@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
I must challenge you there Robert. What do rent and kids have to do with creativity, drive and passion? Jonathan Ive, the principal designer of the iMac, titanium and aluminum PowerBook G4, MacBook, unibody MacBook Pro, iPod, iPhone, and iPad has a wife and two kids. Twins. Doesn't seem to have slowed him down any.
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:26 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi The first step is to have a passion for what you want to do, then identify
a problem that needs solving and solve it all for the fun and passion of it not the money.
Mariga, Ronaldo and the rest of the ilk first played soccer for the fun and passion of the game the scouts, enforcements and money then followed. Regards PS. I was recently reminded that once you have rent to pay your ability to do anything new diminishes exponentially and once the kids come along forget about coming up with any radical, industry changing application or business concept. If the idea was not incubated when you where in high school or campus then join the large band of IT vendors as the other train has left.
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
________________________________ From: Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Mon, 13 June, 2011 9:01:18 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India on IT
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 8:29 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
This will give you an insight into how we can go from being a talk shop
and baby cries and get down to doing some serious productive work.
Without fear I will repeat what I commented previously "money follows great ideas; period". I also like a comment from a Google employee, in one of the documentaries, "Google is an extension of college"
What's the first step?
-- With Regards,
Phares Kariuki
| T: +254 720 406 093 | E: pkariuki@gmail.com | Twitter: kaboro | Skype: kariukiphares | B: http://www.kaboro.com/ |
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KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
Robert, there are plenty of people above the age of 24 who make a mark in society, not just in ICT, but in many other sectors as well - they probably just don't have time to chitchat on an ICT mailing list all day long. Financiers, coaches, managers are an important part of the system. It's a bit difficult to get anything off the ground without managers and financiers. And not everyone is a good entrepreneur. Plus a country full of entrepreneurs and no employees to be employed in those fantastic companies they are going to create would be a bit pointless, no? Happy day everyone. Gotta scoot and do some work to keep my employees busy :) Andrea On 15 June 2011 11:16, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi,
It seems my comment about those older than 24 to give up on making a mark in society, apart from political, touched a raw nerve.
Please do not get disillusioned the following avenues still exist for you;
1. Become an angel investor to the under 24 year old's (Google received US $100,000/-, do the ROI) 2. Mentor and/or incubate the under 24 year old's (Sam please share) 3. Encourage and motivate your children, nephews and nieces who are under 16 years to take up development (Mark Zuckerberg was writing serious code he had taught himself when he was only 9 years old & turned down a job offers from AOL & Microsoft when he was in high school, - what is your 9 year old doing?)
Even as old as we are we still can be part of the next big non-political revolution so long as we accept the fact that we shall be ball "boys", coaches, managers, financiers and onlookers but not player on the pitch which is why I continue to campaign for the post of Post Master General, king of snail mail.
FYI: Mark Zuckerberg is another one in the long line including Bill Gates, Microsoft owner, and Steve Jobs, Apple CEO and largest shareholder of Disney. These guys keep reinforcing the myth that college graduates become employees in companies owned by college dropouts, who become billionaires.
Rather than becoming dependable citizens *looking for jobs<http://www.clevelcrossing.com/lcjssearchresults.php?d=1550> *, people like Mark Zuckerberg believe in becoming deviants, who go on to create jobs, and possess the cheek to do so without inheriting big bank accounts. One Mark Zuckerberg is sufficient to set millions of kids dreaming and doing awful damage to the tenets of civilized society, as we know it. Good boys should go through college, study as much as they can, and lose as much of their originality as they can, to become solid dependable workers for our industrial system. People like Mark Zuckerberg , just by their existence, incite others to think, something that has always been disapproved by good society, starting with the burning of Copernicus.
http://www.clevelcrossing.com/article/900107/Mark-Zuckerberg-Facebook-Owner-...
Regards
PS. Do despair, in so long as developing that killer up is concerned but be re-energised by the other prevailing opportunities.
P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
------------------------------ *From:* Andrea Bohnstedt <andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com> *To:* robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Tue, 14 June, 2011 12:11:13 *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 49, Issue 48
Ory, we all know women can multi-task *much* better than guys :)
On 14 June 2011 11:24, Ory Okolloh <ookolloh@gmail.com> wrote:
Re radical ideas and kids.
Mzalendo grew and went live when I was pregnant with my first child, Ushahidi was born when I had a 10 month old and I quit my job to build the organization behind it when I had another on the way, expecting number 3 after recently joining Google and I'm sure I will continue to have new ideas there :-)
Ory
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Message: 1 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 06:06:34 +0000 From: "david.simbiri@lixnet.net" <david.simbiri@lixnet.net> To: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] mhealth breakfast Message-ID: <mailman.102.1308034036.28988.kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=UTF-8
I confirm my attendance.
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------Original message------ From: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> To: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 5:29:18 AM GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: [kictanet] mhealth breakfast
Listers, My mistake on the date of this event. Veneue is the same tomorrow the 15th of June and not the 16th.
Regards
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confirmed, will attend Andrew
I would like to attend. ?Thanks
Suraj Shah Corporate Affairs Manager Intel
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Listers, The breakfast meeting on medical cloud services will be at the Serena on the 16th morning starting at the 7am. ?The sponsor has graciously accepted to have at list 10 of you.
Please let us have confirmations on the list. ?They will respond to you directly. ?I will not involve myself with the details of this invite.
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I must challenge you there Robert. What do rent and kids have to do with creativity, drive and passion? Jonathan Ive, the principal designer of the iMac, titanium and aluminum PowerBook G4, MacBook, unibody MacBook Pro, iPod, iPhone, and iPad has a wife and two kids. Twins. Doesn't seem to have slowed him down any.
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:26 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi The first step is to have a passion for what you want to do, then
Mariga, Ronaldo and the rest of the ilk first played soccer for the fun and passion of the game the scouts, enforcements and money then followed. Regards PS. I was recently reminded that once you have rent to pay your ability to do anything new diminishes exponentially and once the kids come along forget about coming up with any radical, industry changing application or business concept. If the idea was not incubated when you where in high school or campus then join the large band of IT vendors as the other
identify a problem that needs solving and solve it all for the fun and passion of it not the money. train has left.
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
________________________________ From: Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Mon, 13 June, 2011 9:01:18 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India
on IT
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 8:29 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>
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This will give you an insight into how we can go from being a talk
shop and baby cries and get down to doing some serious productive work.
Without fear I will repeat what I commented previously "money follows great ideas; period". I also like a comment from a Google employee, in one of the documentaries, "Google is an extension of college"
What's the first step?
-- With Regards,
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The best <local> example is probably Michael Joseph? Took to the helm of a telco when he was over 40... The innovations out of Safaricom... Additionally, all twitter founders were over 25 at the time of founding... On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Ali Hussein <info@alyhussein.com> wrote:
Touche Andrea :)
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Hi Andrea I can insult you in ways you will never understand or appreciate but half of those on the list will, so please lets keep to the issues at hand and stop trying to belittle the rest of us. You are definitely over 24 years of age so please accept that fact as neither you no I can do anything about it. In my post I clearly indicted that you and I are beyond the "use by date" in as far as developing a radical technology based innovation is concerned. We might make brilliant parents and grand parents, we have the experience of age that no one can take away from us but we must acknowledge the facts on the ground and stop behaving like the Chama Cha Mapinduzi Youth Wing whose 50 year old chairman kept holding onto the post by changing the definition of the term Youth. Nyerere finally put the issue to rest as I would like to here, youth is a factor of age, period. Regards PS. A wise Matatu Makanga retort "hunilipii kodi kwa hivio tabu yako namimi ni nini?" a translation for your sake Andrea "You do not pay my rent , so what's your beef with me?" Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: Andrea Bohnstedt <andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wed, 15 June, 2011 12:03:32 Subject: Re: [kictanet] 24! Your dead in the water Robert, there are plenty of people above the age of 24 who make a mark in society, not just in ICT, but in many other sectors as well - they probably just don't have time to chitchat on an ICT mailing list all day long. Financiers, coaches, managers are an important part of the system. It's a bit difficult to get anything off the ground without managers and financiers. And not everyone is a good entrepreneur. Plus a country full of entrepreneurs and no employees to be employed in those fantastic companies they are going to create would be a bit pointless, no? Happy day everyone. Gotta scoot and do some work to keep my employees busy :) Andrea On 15 June 2011 11:16, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: Hi,
It seems my comment about those older than 24 to give up on making a mark in society, apart from political, touched a raw nerve.
Please do not get disillusioned the following avenues still exist for you;
1. Become an angel investor to the under 24 year old's (Google received US $100,000/-, do the ROI) 2. Mentor and/or incubate the under 24 year old's (Sam please share) 3. Encourage and motivate your children, nephews and nieces who are under 16 years to take up development (Mark Zuckerberg was writing serious code he had taught himself when he was only 9 years old & turned down a job offers from AOL & Microsoft when he was in high school, - what is your 9 year old doing?)
Even as old as we are we still can be part of the next big non-political revolution so long as we accept the fact that we shall be ball "boys", coaches, managers, financiers and onlookers but not player on the pitch which is why I continue to campaign for the post of Post Master General, king of snail mail.
FYI: Mark Zuckerberg is another one in the long line including Bill Gates, Microsoft owner, and Steve Jobs, Apple CEO and largest shareholder of Disney. These guys keep reinforcing the myth that college graduates become employees in companies owned by college dropouts, who become billionaires.
Rather than becoming dependable citizens looking for jobs, people like Mark Zuckerberg believe in becoming deviants, who go on to create jobs, and possess the cheek to do so without inheriting big bank accounts. One Mark Zuckerberg is sufficient to set millions of kids dreaming and doing awful damage to the tenets of civilized society, as we know it. Good boys should go through college, study as much as they can, and lose as much of their originality as they can, to become solid dependable workers for our industrial system. People like Mark Zuckerberg , just by their existence, incite others to think, something that has always been disapproved by good society, starting with the burning of Copernicus.
http://www.clevelcrossing.com/article/900107/Mark-Zuckerberg-Facebook-Owner-...
Regards
PS. Do despair, in so long as developing that killer up is concerned but be re-energised by the other prevailing opportunities.
P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Tue, 14 June, 2011 12:11:13 Subject: Re: [kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 49, Issue 48
Ory, we all know women can multi-task *much* better than guys :)
On 14 June 2011 11:24, Ory Okolloh <ookolloh@gmail.com> wrote:
Re radical ideas and kids.
Mzalendo grew and went live when I was pregnant with my first child, Ushahidi was born when I had a 10 month old and I quit my job to build the organization behind it when I had another on the way, expecting number 3 after recently joining Google and I'm sure I will continue to have new ideas there :-)
Ory
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I confirm my attendance.
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Listers, My mistake on the date of this event. Veneue is the same tomorrow the 15th of June and not the 16th.
Regards
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confirmed, will attend Andrew
On Tuesday, 14 June 2011, Suraj Shah <suraj@surajshah.co.ke> wrote:
I would like to attend. ?Thanks
Suraj Shah Corporate Affairs Manager Intel
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Listers, The breakfast meeting on medical cloud services will be at the Serena on
the
16th morning starting at the 7am. ?The sponsor has graciously accepted to have at list 10 of you.
Please let us have confirmations on the list. ?They will respond to you directly. ?I will not involve myself with the details of this invite.
Ndemo.
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I must challenge you there Robert. What do rent and kids have to do with creativity, drive and passion? Jonathan Ive, the principal designer of the iMac, titanium and aluminum PowerBook G4, MacBook, unibody MacBook Pro, iPod, iPhone, and iPad has a wife and two kids. Twins. Doesn't seem to have slowed him down any.
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:26 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi The first step is to have a passion for what you want to do, then identify
a problem that needs solving and solve it all for the fun and passion of it not the money.
Mariga, Ronaldo and the rest of the ilk first played soccer for the fun and passion of the game the scouts, enforcements and money then followed. Regards PS. I was recently reminded that once you have rent to pay your ability to do anything new diminishes exponentially and once the kids come along forget about coming up with any radical, industry changing application or business concept. If the idea was not incubated when you where in high school or campus then join the large band of IT vendors as the other train has left.
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
________________________________ From: Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Mon, 13 June, 2011 9:01:18 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India on IT
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 8:29 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
This will give you an insight into how we can go from being a talk shop
and baby cries and get down to doing some serious productive work.
Without fear I will repeat what I commented previously "money follows great ideas; period". I also like a comment from a Google employee, in one of the documentaries, "Google is an extension of college"
What's the first step?
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Robert, it's not belittling or insulting when I say that there are people in Kenya who are not on this list who do amazing things - 'make a mark in society' you called it, right? If anything, it's a compliment. Yes, I'm over 24. Definitely. Also thankfully. Andrea On 16 June 2011 09:54, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi Andrea
I can insult you in ways you will never understand or appreciate but half of those on the list will, so please lets keep to the issues at hand and stop trying to belittle the rest of us.
You are definitely over 24 years of age so please accept that fact as neither you no I can do anything about it. In my post I clearly indicted that you and I are beyond the "use by date" in as far as developing a radical technology based innovation is concerned.
We might make brilliant parents and grand parents, we have the experience of age that no one can take away from us but we must acknowledge the facts on the ground and stop behaving like the Chama Cha Mapinduzi Youth Wing whose 50 year old chairman kept holding onto the post by changing the definition of the term Youth. Nyerere finally put the issue to rest as I would like to here, youth is a factor of age, period.
Regards
PS. A wise Matatu Makanga retort "hunilipii kodi kwa hivio tabu yako namimi ni nini?" a translation for your sake Andrea "You do not pay my rent , so what's your beef with me?"
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Robert, there are plenty of people above the age of 24 who make a mark in society, not just in ICT, but in many other sectors as well - they probably just don't have time to chitchat on an ICT mailing list all day long.
Financiers, coaches, managers are an important part of the system. It's a bit difficult to get anything off the ground without managers and financiers. And not everyone is a good entrepreneur. Plus a country full of entrepreneurs and no employees to be employed in those fantastic companies they are going to create would be a bit pointless, no?
Happy day everyone. Gotta scoot and do some work to keep my employees busy :)
Andrea
On 15 June 2011 11:16, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi,
It seems my comment about those older than 24 to give up on making a mark in society, apart from political, touched a raw nerve.
Please do not get disillusioned the following avenues still exist for you;
1. Become an angel investor to the under 24 year old's (Google received US $100,000/-, do the ROI) 2. Mentor and/or incubate the under 24 year old's (Sam please share) 3. Encourage and motivate your children, nephews and nieces who are under 16 years to take up development (Mark Zuckerberg was writing serious code he had taught himself when he was only 9 years old & turned down a job offers from AOL & Microsoft when he was in high school, - what is your 9 year old doing?)
Even as old as we are we still can be part of the next big non-political revolution so long as we accept the fact that we shall be ball "boys", coaches, managers, financiers and onlookers but not player on the pitch which is why I continue to campaign for the post of Post Master General, king of snail mail.
FYI: Mark Zuckerberg is another one in the long line including Bill Gates, Microsoft owner, and Steve Jobs, Apple CEO and largest shareholder of Disney. These guys keep reinforcing the myth that college graduates become employees in companies owned by college dropouts, who become billionaires.
Rather than becoming dependable citizens *looking for jobs<http://www.clevelcrossing.com/lcjssearchresults.php?d=1550> *, people like Mark Zuckerberg believe in becoming deviants, who go on to create jobs, and possess the cheek to do so without inheriting big bank accounts. One Mark Zuckerberg is sufficient to set millions of kids dreaming and doing awful damage to the tenets of civilized society, as we know it. Good boys should go through college, study as much as they can, and lose as much of their originality as they can, to become solid dependable workers for our industrial system. People like Mark Zuckerberg , just by their existence, incite others to think, something that has always been disapproved by good society, starting with the burning of Copernicus.
http://www.clevelcrossing.com/article/900107/Mark-Zuckerberg-Facebook-Owner-...
Regards
PS. Do despair, in so long as developing that killer up is concerned but be re-energised by the other prevailing opportunities.
P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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Ory, we all know women can multi-task *much* better than guys :)
On 14 June 2011 11:24, Ory Okolloh <ookolloh@gmail.com> wrote:
Re radical ideas and kids.
Mzalendo grew and went live when I was pregnant with my first child, Ushahidi was born when I had a 10 month old and I quit my job to build the organization behind it when I had another on the way, expecting number 3 after recently joining Google and I'm sure I will continue to have new ideas there :-)
Ory
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Listers, My mistake on the date of this event. Veneue is the same tomorrow the 15th of June and not the 16th.
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confirmed, will attend Andrew
I would like to attend. ?Thanks
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Please let us have confirmations on the list. ?They will respond to you directly. ?I will not involve myself with the details of this invite.
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I must challenge you there Robert. What do rent and kids have to do with creativity, drive and passion? Jonathan Ive, the principal designer of the iMac, titanium and aluminum PowerBook G4, MacBook, unibody MacBook Pro, iPod, iPhone, and iPad has a wife and two kids. Twins. Doesn't seem to have slowed him down any.
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:26 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi The first step is to have a passion for what you want to do, then
Mariga, Ronaldo and the rest of the ilk first played soccer for the fun and passion of the game the scouts, enforcements and money then followed. Regards PS. I was recently reminded that once you have rent to pay your ability to do anything new diminishes exponentially and once the kids come along forget about coming up with any radical, industry changing application or business concept. If the idea was not incubated when you where in high school or campus then join the large band of IT vendors as the other
identify a problem that needs solving and solve it all for the fun and passion of it not the money. train has left.
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
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________________________________ From: Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Mon, 13 June, 2011 9:01:18 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India
on IT
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 8:29 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
This will give you an insight into how we can go from being a talk
shop and baby cries and get down to doing some serious productive work.
Without fear I will repeat what I commented previously "money follows great ideas; period". I also like a comment from a Google employee, in one of the documentaries, "Google is an extension of college"
What's the first step?
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Phares Kariuki
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. . . they probably just don't have time to chitchat on an ICT mailing list all day long This is an insult. Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: Andrea Bohnstedt <andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thu, 16 June, 2011 11:22:54 Subject: Re: 24! Your dead in the water Robert, it's not belittling or insulting when I say that there are people in Kenya who are not on this list who do amazing things - 'make a mark in society' you called it, right? If anything, it's a compliment. Yes, I'm over 24. Definitely. Also thankfully. Andrea On 16 June 2011 09:54, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: Hi Andrea
I can insult you in ways you will never understand or appreciate but half of those on the list will, so please lets keep to the issues at hand and stop trying to belittle the rest of us.
You are definitely over 24 years of age so please accept that fact as neither you no I can do anything about it. In my post I clearly indicted that you and I are beyond the "use by date" in as far as developing a radical technology based innovation is concerned.
We might make brilliant parents and grand parents, we have the experience of age that no one can take away from us but we must acknowledge the facts on the ground and stop behaving like the Chama Cha Mapinduzi Youth Wing whose 50 year old chairman kept holding onto the post by changing the definition of the term Youth. Nyerere finally put the issue to rest as I would like to here, youth is a factor of age, period.
Regards
PS. A wise Matatu Makanga retort "hunilipii kodi kwa hivio tabu yako namimi ni nini?" a translation for your sake Andrea "You do not pay my rent , so what's your beef with me?" Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wed, 15 June, 2011 12:03:32 Subject: Re: [kictanet] 24! Your dead in the water
Robert, there are plenty of people above the age of 24 who make a mark in society, not just in ICT, but in many other sectors as well - they probably just don't have time to chitchat on an ICT mailing list all day long.
Financiers, coaches, managers are an important part of the system. It's a bit difficult to get anything off the ground without managers and financiers. And not everyone is a good entrepreneur. Plus a country full of entrepreneurs and no employees to be employed in those fantastic companies they are going to create would be a bit pointless, no?
Happy day everyone. Gotta scoot and do some work to keep my employees busy :)
Andrea
On 15 June 2011 11:16, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi,
It seems my comment about those older than 24 to give up on making a mark in society, apart from political, touched a raw nerve.
Please do not get disillusioned the following avenues still exist for you;
1. Become an angel investor to the under 24 year old's (Google received US $100,000/-, do the ROI) 2. Mentor and/or incubate the under 24 year old's (Sam please share) 3. Encourage and motivate your children, nephews and nieces who are under 16 years to take up development (Mark Zuckerberg was writing serious code he had taught himself when he was only 9 years old & turned down a job offers from AOL & Microsoft when he was in high school, - what is your 9 year old doing?)
Even as old as we are we still can be part of the next big non-political revolution so long as we accept the fact that we shall be ball "boys", coaches, managers, financiers and onlookers but not player on the pitch which is why I continue to campaign for the post of Post Master General, king of snail mail.
FYI: Mark Zuckerberg is another one in the long line including Bill Gates, Microsoft owner, and Steve Jobs, Apple CEO and largest shareholder of Disney. These guys keep reinforcing the myth that college graduates become employees in companies owned by college dropouts, who become billionaires.
Rather than becoming dependable citizens looking for jobs, people like Mark Zuckerberg believe in becoming deviants, who go on to create jobs, and possess the cheek to do so without inheriting big bank accounts. One Mark Zuckerberg is sufficient to set millions of kids dreaming and doing awful damage to the tenets of civilized society, as we know it. Good boys should go through college, study as much as they can, and lose as much of their originality as they can, to become solid dependable workers for our industrial system. People like Mark Zuckerberg , just by their existence, incite others to think, something that has always been disapproved by good society, starting with the burning of Copernicus.
http://www.clevelcrossing.com/article/900107/Mark-Zuckerberg-Facebook-Owner-...
Regards
PS. Do despair, in so long as developing that killer up is concerned but be re-energised by the other prevailing opportunities.
P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
From: Andrea Bohnstedt <andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com>
To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Tue, 14 June, 2011 12:11:13 Subject: Re: [kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 49, Issue 48
Ory, we all know women can multi-task *much* better than guys :)
On 14 June 2011 11:24, Ory Okolloh <ookolloh@gmail.com> wrote:
Re radical ideas and kids.
Mzalendo grew and went live when I was pregnant with my first child, Ushahidi was born when I had a 10 month old and I quit my job to build the organization behind it when I had another on the way, expecting number 3 after recently joining Google and I'm sure I will continue to have new ideas there :-)
Ory
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Listers, My mistake on the date of this event. Veneue is the same tomorrow the 15th of June and not the 16th.
Regards
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Message: 2 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:18:41 +0300 From: Gakiria <gakiria@gmail.com> To: "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mhealth and medical cloud services Message-ID: <BANLkTimdeU58mP20k74a7tAejgD9u0K0Gw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
confirmed, will attend Andrew
On Tuesday, 14 June 2011, Suraj Shah <suraj@surajshah.co.ke> wrote:
I would like to attend. ?Thanks
Suraj Shah Corporate Affairs Manager Intel
On 6/14/11 5:00 AM, "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Listers, The breakfast meeting on medical cloud services will be at the Serena on
the
16th morning starting at the 7am. ?The sponsor has graciously accepted to have at list 10 of you.
Please let us have confirmations on the list. ?They will respond to you directly. ?I will not involve myself with the details of this invite.
Ndemo.
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Message: 3 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:23:58 +0300 From: "Rad!" <conradakunga@gmail.com> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India on IT Message-ID: <BANLkTims+FqrUcG+Pmu+GmFdbiFYh9cNSQ@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
I must challenge you there Robert. What do rent and kids have to do with creativity, drive and passion? Jonathan Ive, the principal designer of the iMac, titanium and aluminum PowerBook G4, MacBook, unibody MacBook Pro, iPod, iPhone, and iPad has a wife and two kids. Twins. Doesn't seem to have slowed him down any.
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:26 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi The first step is to have a passion for what you want to do, then identify
a problem that needs solving and solve it all for the fun and passion of it not the money.
Mariga, Ronaldo and the rest of the ilk first played soccer for the fun and passion of the game the scouts, enforcements and money then followed. Regards PS. I was recently reminded that once you have rent to pay your ability to do anything new diminishes exponentially and once the kids come along forget about coming up with any radical, industry changing application or business concept. If the idea was not incubated when you where in high school or campus then join the large band of IT vendors as the other train has left.
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
________________________________ From: Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Mon, 13 June, 2011 9:01:18 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India on IT
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 8:29 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
This will give you an insight into how we can go from being a talk shop
and baby cries and get down to doing some serious productive work.
Without fear I will repeat what I commented previously "money follows great ideas; period". I also like a comment from a Google employee, in one of the documentaries, "Google is an extension of college"
What's the first step?
-- With Regards,
Phares Kariuki
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???? "KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications." On 16/06/2011, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi Andrea
I can insult you in ways you will never understand or appreciate but half of those on the list will, so please lets keep to the issues at hand and stop trying to belittle the rest of us.
You are definitely over 24 years of age so please accept that fact as neither you no I can do anything about it. In my post I clearly indicted that you and I are beyond the "use by date" in as far as developing a radical technology based innovation is concerned.
We might make brilliant parents and grand parents, we have the experience of age that no one can take away from us but we must acknowledge the facts on the ground and stop behaving like the Chama Cha Mapinduzi Youth Wing whose 50 year old chairman kept holding onto the post by changing the definition of the term Youth. Nyerere finally put the issue to rest as I would like to here, youth is a factor of age, period.
Regards
PS. A wise Matatu Makanga retort "hunilipii kodi kwa hivio tabu yako namimi ni nini?" a translation for your sake Andrea "You do not pay my rent , so what's your beef with me?" Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
________________________________ From: Andrea Bohnstedt <andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wed, 15 June, 2011 12:03:32 Subject: Re: [kictanet] 24! Your dead in the water
Robert, there are plenty of people above the age of 24 who make a mark in society, not just in ICT, but in many other sectors as well - they probably just don't have time to chitchat on an ICT mailing list all day long.
Financiers, coaches, managers are an important part of the system. It's a bit difficult to get anything off the ground without managers and financiers. And not everyone is a good entrepreneur. Plus a country full of entrepreneurs and no employees to be employed in those fantastic companies they are going to create would be a bit pointless, no?
Happy day everyone. Gotta scoot and do some work to keep my employees busy :)
Andrea
On 15 June 2011 11:16, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi,
It seems my comment about those older than 24 to give up on making a mark in society, apart from political, touched a raw nerve.
Please do not get disillusioned the following avenues still exist for you;
1. Become an angel investor to the under 24 year old's (Google received US
$100,000/-, do the ROI) 2. Mentor and/or incubate the under 24 year old's (Sam please share) 3. Encourage and motivate your children, nephews and nieces who are under 16 years to take up development (Mark Zuckerberg was writing serious code he had taught himself when he was only 9 years old & turned down a job offers from AOL & Microsoft when he was in high school, - what is your 9 year old doing?)
Even as old as we are we still can be part of the next big non-political revolution so long as we accept the fact that we shall be ball "boys", coaches, managers, financiers and onlookers but not player on the pitch which is why I continue to campaign for the post of Post Master General, king of snail mail.
FYI: Mark Zuckerberg is another one in the long line including Bill Gates, Microsoft owner, and Steve Jobs, Apple CEO and largest shareholder of Disney. These guys keep reinforcing the myth that college graduates become employees in companies owned by college dropouts, who become billionaires.
Rather than becoming dependable citizens looking for jobs, people like Mark
Zuckerberg believe in becoming deviants, who go on to create jobs, and possess the cheek to do so without inheriting big bank accounts. One Mark Zuckerberg is sufficient to set millions of kids dreaming and doing awful damage to the tenets of civilized society, as we know it. Good boys should go through college, study as much as they can, and lose as much of their originality as they can, to become solid dependable workers for our industrial system. People like Mark
Zuckerberg , just by their existence, incite others to think, something that has always been disapproved by good society, starting with the burning of Copernicus.
http://www.clevelcrossing.com/article/900107/Mark-Zuckerberg-Facebook-Owner-...
Regards
PS. Do despair, in so long as developing that killer up is concerned but be re-energised by the other prevailing opportunities.
P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
________________________________ From: Andrea Bohnstedt <andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com>
To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Tue, 14 June, 2011 12:11:13 Subject: Re: [kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 49, Issue 48
Ory, we all know women can multi-task *much* better than guys :)
On 14 June 2011 11:24, Ory Okolloh <ookolloh@gmail.com> wrote:
Re radical ideas and kids.
Mzalendo grew and went live when I was pregnant with my first child, Ushahidi was born when I had a 10 month old and I quit my job to build the organization behind it when I had another on the way, expecting number 3 after recently
joining Google and I'm sure I will continue to have new ideas there :-)
Ory
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I confirm my attendance.
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Listers, My mistake on the date of this event. Veneue is the same tomorrow the 15th of June and not the 16th.
Regards
Ndemo.
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Message: 2 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:18:41 +0300 From: Gakiria <gakiria@gmail.com> To: "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mhealth and medical cloud services Message-ID: <BANLkTimdeU58mP20k74a7tAejgD9u0K0Gw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
confirmed, will attend Andrew
On Tuesday, 14 June 2011, Suraj Shah <suraj@surajshah.co.ke> wrote:
I would like to attend. ?Thanks
Suraj Shah Corporate Affairs Manager Intel
On 6/14/11 5:00 AM, "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Listers, The breakfast meeting on medical cloud services will be at the Serena on
the
16th morning starting at the 7am. ?The sponsor has graciously accepted to have at list 10 of you.
Please let us have confirmations on the list. ?They will respond to you directly. ?I will not involve myself with the details of this invite.
Ndemo.
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I must challenge you there Robert. What do rent and kids have to do with creativity, drive and passion? Jonathan Ive, the principal designer of the iMac, titanium and aluminum PowerBook G4, MacBook, unibody MacBook Pro, iPod, iPhone, and iPad has a wife and two kids. Twins. Doesn't seem to have slowed him down any.
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:26 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi The first step is to have a passion for what you want to do, then identify
Mariga, Ronaldo and the rest of the ilk first played soccer for the fun and passion of the game the scouts, enforcements and money then followed. Regards PS. I was recently reminded that once you have rent to pay your ability to do anything new diminishes exponentially and once the kids come along forget about coming up with any radical, industry changing application or business concept. If the idea was not incubated when you where in high school or campus then join the large band of IT vendors as the other
a problem that needs solving and solve it all for the fun and passion of it not the money. train has left.
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
________________________________ From: Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Mon, 13 June, 2011 9:01:18 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India on
IT
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 8:29 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
This will give you an insight into how we can go from being a talk shop
and baby cries and get down to doing some serious productive work.
Without fear I will repeat what I commented previously "money follows great ideas; period". I also like a comment from a Google employee, in one of the documentaries, "Google is an extension of college"
What's the first step?
-- With Regards,
Phares Kariuki
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Too much cyber-bullying these days! On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Francis Hook <francis.hook@gmail.com>wrote:
????
"KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications."
Hi Andrea
I can insult you in ways you will never understand or appreciate but half of those on the list will, so please lets keep to the issues at hand and stop trying to belittle the rest of us.
You are definitely over 24 years of age so please accept that fact as neither you no I can do anything about it. In my post I clearly indicted that you and I are beyond the "use by date" in as far as developing a radical technology based innovation is concerned.
We might make brilliant parents and grand parents, we have the experience of age that no one can take away from us but we must acknowledge the facts on
ground and stop behaving like the Chama Cha Mapinduzi Youth Wing whose 50 year old chairman kept holding onto the post by changing the definition of the term Youth. Nyerere finally put the issue to rest as I would like to here, youth is a factor of age, period.
Regards
PS. A wise Matatu Makanga retort "hunilipii kodi kwa hivio tabu yako namimi ni nini?" a translation for your sake Andrea "You do not pay my rent , so what's your beef with me?" Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
________________________________ From: Andrea Bohnstedt <andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wed, 15 June, 2011 12:03:32 Subject: Re: [kictanet] 24! Your dead in the water
Robert, there are plenty of people above the age of 24 who make a mark in society, not just in ICT, but in many other sectors as well - they
just don't have time to chitchat on an ICT mailing list all day long.
Financiers, coaches, managers are an important part of the system. It's a bit difficult to get anything off the ground without managers and financiers. And not everyone is a good entrepreneur. Plus a country full of entrepreneurs and no employees to be employed in those fantastic companies they are going to create would be a bit pointless, no?
Happy day everyone. Gotta scoot and do some work to keep my employees busy :)
Andrea
On 15 June 2011 11:16, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi,
It seems my comment about those older than 24 to give up on making a mark in society, apart from political, touched a raw nerve.
Please do not get disillusioned the following avenues still exist for
you;
1. Become an angel investor to the under 24 year old's (Google received
US
$100,000/-, do the ROI) 2. Mentor and/or incubate the under 24 year old's (Sam please share) 3. Encourage and motivate your children, nephews and nieces who are
under
16 years to take up development (Mark Zuckerberg was writing serious code he had taught himself when he was only 9 years old & turned down a job offers from AOL & Microsoft when he was in high school, - what is your 9 year old doing?)
Even as old as we are we still can be part of the next big non-political revolution so long as we accept the fact that we shall be ball "boys", coaches, managers, financiers and onlookers but not player on the pitch which is why I continue to campaign for the post of Post Master General, king of snail mail.
FYI: Mark Zuckerberg is another one in the long line including Bill Gates, Microsoft owner, and Steve Jobs, Apple CEO and largest shareholder of Disney. These guys keep reinforcing the myth that college graduates become employees in companies owned by college dropouts, who become billionaires.
Rather than becoming dependable citizens looking for jobs, people like Mark
Zuckerberg believe in becoming deviants, who go on to create jobs, and possess the cheek to do so without inheriting big bank accounts. One Mark Zuckerberg is sufficient to set millions of kids dreaming and doing awful damage to the tenets of civilized society, as we know it. Good boys should go through college, study as much as they can, and lose as much of their originality as they can, to become solid dependable workers for our industrial system. People like Mark
Zuckerberg , just by their existence, incite others to think, something that has always been disapproved by good society, starting with the burning of Copernicus.
http://www.clevelcrossing.com/article/900107/Mark-Zuckerberg-Facebook-Owner-...
Regards
PS. Do despair, in so long as developing that killer up is concerned but be re-energised by the other prevailing opportunities.
P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Tue, 14 June, 2011 12:11:13 Subject: Re: [kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 49, Issue 48
Ory, we all know women can multi-task *much* better than guys :)
On 14 June 2011 11:24, Ory Okolloh <ookolloh@gmail.com> wrote:
Re radical ideas and kids.
Mzalendo grew and went live when I was pregnant with my first child, Ushahidi was born when I had a 10 month old and I quit my job to build the organization behind it when I had another on the way, expecting number 3 after
recently
joining Google and I'm sure I will continue to have new ideas there :-)
Ory
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I confirm my attendance.
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Listers, My mistake on the date of this event. Veneue is the same tomorrow the 15th of June and not the 16th.
Regards
Ndemo.
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confirmed, will attend Andrew
On Tuesday, 14 June 2011, Suraj Shah <suraj@surajshah.co.ke> wrote:
I would like to attend. ?Thanks
Suraj Shah Corporate Affairs Manager Intel
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Message: 3 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:23:58 +0300 From: "Rad!" <conradakunga@gmail.com> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India on IT Message-ID: <BANLkTims+FqrUcG+Pmu+GmFdbiFYh9cNSQ@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
I must challenge you there Robert. What do rent and kids have to do with creativity, drive and passion? Jonathan Ive, the principal designer of the iMac, titanium and aluminum PowerBook G4, MacBook, unibody MacBook Pro, iPod, iPhone, and iPad has a wife and two kids. Twins. Doesn't seem to have slowed him down any.
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:26 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi The first step is to have a passion for what you want to do, then identify
Mariga, Ronaldo and the rest of the ilk first played soccer for the fun and passion of the game the scouts, enforcements and money then followed. Regards PS. I was recently reminded that once you have rent to pay your ability to do anything new diminishes exponentially and once the kids come along forget about coming up with any radical, industry changing application or business concept. If the idea was not incubated when you where in high school or campus then join the large band of IT vendors as the other
a problem that needs solving and solve it all for the fun and passion of it not the money. train has left.
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
________________________________ From: Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Mon, 13 June, 2011 9:01:18 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India on
IT
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 8:29 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk
wrote:
> > This will give you an insight into how we can go from being a talk > shop and baby cries and get down to doing some serious productive work. > Without fear I will repeat what I commented previously "money follows great ideas; period". I also like a comment from a Google employee, in one of the documentaries, "Google is an extension of college"
What's the first step?
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On 16/06/2011, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: the probably platform platform
for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
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behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
I don't think there is ever any sell by date. True with age the facility to come up with what we call out of the box ideas wanes due to societal conformations and change resistance but does it mean that 30 year olds are daft or incapable of life changing concepts? Should we(under 25's) all drop what we are doing and go innovate? Most people are fine having a regular career and so long as they can comfortably afford what they need , they live happily. I sometimes believe it is a matter of fate. All these under 24 year olds who made billions worked extremely hard at whatever it was they did. Other guys their age were at parties and watching TV. they were happy doing that. being a billionaire sounds sexy and alpha male-ish but not everyone can be one. If you really want to be a billionaire you will be. . . I think its that simple. On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
Too much cyber-bullying these days!
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Francis Hook <francis.hook@gmail.com>wrote:
????
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Hi Andrea
I can insult you in ways you will never understand or appreciate but half of those on the list will, so please lets keep to the issues at hand and stop trying to belittle the rest of us.
You are definitely over 24 years of age so please accept that fact as neither you no I can do anything about it. In my post I clearly indicted that you and I are beyond the "use by date" in as far as developing a radical technology based innovation is concerned.
We might make brilliant parents and grand parents, we have the experience of age that no one can take away from us but we must acknowledge the facts on
ground and stop behaving like the Chama Cha Mapinduzi Youth Wing whose 50 year old chairman kept holding onto the post by changing the definition of
term Youth. Nyerere finally put the issue to rest as I would like to here, youth is a factor of age, period.
Regards
PS. A wise Matatu Makanga retort "hunilipii kodi kwa hivio tabu yako namimi ni nini?" a translation for your sake Andrea "You do not pay my rent , so what's your beef with me?" Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
________________________________ From: Andrea Bohnstedt <andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wed, 15 June, 2011 12:03:32 Subject: Re: [kictanet] 24! Your dead in the water
Robert, there are plenty of people above the age of 24 who make a mark in society, not just in ICT, but in many other sectors as well - they
just don't have time to chitchat on an ICT mailing list all day long.
Financiers, coaches, managers are an important part of the system. It's a bit difficult to get anything off the ground without managers and financiers. And not everyone is a good entrepreneur. Plus a country full of entrepreneurs and no employees to be employed in those fantastic companies they are going to create would be a bit pointless, no?
Happy day everyone. Gotta scoot and do some work to keep my employees busy :)
Andrea
On 15 June 2011 11:16, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi,
It seems my comment about those older than 24 to give up on making a
mark
in society, apart from political, touched a raw nerve.
Please do not get disillusioned the following avenues still exist for you;
1. Become an angel investor to the under 24 year old's (Google received US
$100,000/-, do the ROI) 2. Mentor and/or incubate the under 24 year old's (Sam please share) 3. Encourage and motivate your children, nephews and nieces who are under 16 years to take up development (Mark Zuckerberg was writing serious code he had taught himself when he was only 9 years old & turned down a job offers from AOL & Microsoft when he was in high school, - what is your 9 year old doing?)
Even as old as we are we still can be part of the next big non-political revolution so long as we accept the fact that we shall be ball "boys", coaches, managers, financiers and onlookers but not player on the pitch which is why I continue to campaign for the post of Post Master General, king of snail mail.
FYI: Mark Zuckerberg is another one in the long line including Bill Gates, Microsoft owner, and Steve Jobs, Apple CEO and largest shareholder of Disney. These guys keep reinforcing the myth that college graduates become employees in companies owned by college dropouts, who become billionaires.
Rather than becoming dependable citizens looking for jobs, people like Mark
Zuckerberg believe in becoming deviants, who go on to create jobs, and possess the cheek to do so without inheriting big bank accounts. One Mark Zuckerberg is sufficient to set millions of kids dreaming and doing awful damage to
On 16/06/2011, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: the the probably the
tenets of civilized society, as we know it. Good boys should go through
college, >> study >>as much as they can, and lose as much of their originality as they can, to >>become solid dependable workers for our industrial system. People like Mark >> >>Zuckerberg , just by their existence, incite others to think, something >> that has >>always been disapproved by good society, starting with the burning of >>Copernicus. >> >> >> http://www.clevelcrossing.com/article/900107/Mark-Zuckerberg-Facebook-Owner-Exposed-in-the-New-Movie-Social-Network/ >> >> >> >>Regards >> >> >>PS. Do despair, in so long as developing that killer up is concerned but >> be >>re-energised by the other prevailing opportunities. >> >>P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 >>Kenya >> >> >>Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 >> >> >> >> >> > ________________________________ > From: Andrea Bohnstedt <andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com> >>To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk >>Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>Sent: Tue, 14 June, 2011 12:11:13 >>Subject: Re: [kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 49, Issue 48 >> >>Ory, we all know women can multi-task *much* better than guys :) >> >> >>On 14 June 2011 11:24, Ory Okolloh <ookolloh@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>Re radical ideas and kids. >>> >>> >>>Mzalendo grew and went live when I was pregnant with my first child, >>> Ushahidi >>>was born when I had a 10 month old and I quit my job to build the >>> organization >>>behind it when I had another on the way, expecting number 3 after recently >>> >>>joining Google and I'm sure I will continue to have new ideas there :-) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>Ory >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 8:47 AM, < kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke> > wrote: >>> >>>Send kictanet mailing list submissions to >>>> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>> >>>>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>>>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>> kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>> >>>>You can reach the person managing the list at >>>> kictanet-owner@lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>> >>>>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>>>than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." >>>> >>>> >>>>Today's Topics: >>>> >>>> 1. Re: mhealth breakfast (david.simbiri@lixnet.net) >>>> 2. Re: Mhealth and medical cloud services (Gakiria) >>>> 3. Re: Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India on IT (Rad!) >>>> 4. Re: Mhealth and medical cloud services (james ratemo) >>>> >>>> >>>>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>>Message: 1 >>>>Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 06:06:34 +0000 >>>>From: "david.simbiri@lixnet.net" <david.simbiri@lixnet.net> >>>>To: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> >>>>Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>>>Subject: Re: [kictanet] mhealth breakfast >>>>Message-ID: >>>> <mailman.102.1308034036.28988.kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>>>Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=UTF-8 >>>> >>>>I confirm my attendance. >>>> >>>>---------- >>>>Sent from my Nokia Phone >>>> >>>>------Original message------ >>>>From: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> >>>>To: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> >>>>Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>>>Date: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 5:29:18 AM GMT+00:00 >>>>Subject: Re: [kictanet] mhealth breakfast >>>> >>>>Listers, >>>>My mistake on the date of this event. Veneue is the same tomorrow the >>>> 15th of >>>>June and not the 16th. >>>> >>>>Regards >>>> >>>> >>>>Ndemo. >>>> >>>> >>>>Sent from my BlackBerry? >>>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: "Harry Delano" <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> >>>>Sender: kictanet-bounces+bitange=jambo.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>>Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 20:20:46 >>>>To: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> >>>>Reply-To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke >>>>Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>>>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India on >>>> IT >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>kictanet mailing list >>>>kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>>http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>>> >>>>Unsubscribe or change your options at >>>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bitange%40jambo.co.ke >>>> >>>>The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >>>> for >>>>people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>>> regulation. >>>>The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in >>>> support of >>>>the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >>>> >>>>KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >>>> online >>>>that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share >>>> >>>>knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not >>>> spam, do >>>>not market your wares or qualifications. >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>kictanet mailing list >>>>kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>>http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>>> >>>>Unsubscribe or change your options at >>>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/david.simbiri%40lixnet.net >>>> >>>>The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >>>> for >>>>people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>>> regulation. >>>>The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in >>>> support of >>>>the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >>>> >>>>KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >>>> online >>>>that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share >>>> >>>>knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not >>>> spam, do >>>>not market your wares or qualifications. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>------------------------------ >>>> >>>>Message: 2 >>>>Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:18:41 +0300 >>>>From: Gakiria <gakiria@gmail.com> >>>>To: "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> >>>>Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>>>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mhealth and medical cloud services >>>>Message-ID: <BANLkTimdeU58mP20k74a7tAejgD9u0K0Gw@mail.gmail.com> >>>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >>>> >>>>confirmed, will attend >>>>Andrew >>>> >>>>On Tuesday, 14 June 2011, Suraj Shah <suraj@surajshah.co.ke> wrote: >>>>> I would like to attend. ?Thanks >>>>> >>>>> Suraj Shah >>>>> Corporate Affairs Manager >>>>> Intel >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 6/14/11 5:00 AM, "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Listers, >>>>>> The breakfast meeting on medical cloud services will be at the Serena >>>>>> on >>the >>>>>> 16th morning starting at the 7am. ?The sponsor has graciously accepted >>>>>> to >>>>have >>>>>> at list 10 of you. >>>>>> >>>>>> Please let us have confirmations on the list. ?They will respond to >>>>>> you >>>>>> directly. ?I will not involve myself with the details of this invite. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ndemo. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my BlackBerry? >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: "Harry Delano" <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> >>>>>> Sender: kictanet-bounces+bitange=jambo.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>>>> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 20:20:46 >>>>>> To: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> >>>>>> Reply-To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke >>>>>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India >>>>>> on > IT >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> kictanet mailing list >>>>>> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>>>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>>>>> >>>>>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>>>>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bitange%40jambo.co.ke >>>>>> >>>>>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder >>>>>> platform > for >>>>>> people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>>regulation. >>>>>> The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in >>>support >>>>>> of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >>>>>> >>>>>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >>>>>> >>>online >>>>>> that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >>>>>> share >>>>>> knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >>>>>> not >>>spam, >>>>>> do not market your wares or qualifications. >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> kictanet mailing list >>>>>> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>>>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>>>>> >>>>>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>>>>> >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/suraj%40surajshah.co.ke >>>>>> >>>>>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder >>>>>> platform > for >>>>>> people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>>regulation. >>>>>> The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in >>>support >>>>>> of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >>>>>> >>>>>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >>>>>> >>>online >>>>>> that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >>>>>> share >>>>>> knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >>>>>> not >>>spam, >>>>>> do not market your wares or qualifications. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> kictanet mailing list >>>>> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>>>> >>>>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>>>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/gakiria%40gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >>>>> for >>>>>people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>>>> regulation. >>>>>The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in >>>>> support of >>>>>the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >>>>> >>>>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >>>>> online >>>>>that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >>>>> share >>>>>knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not >>>>> spam, do >>>>>not market your wares or qualifications. >>>>> >>>> >>>>-- >>>>Gakiria Andrew >>>>Coordinator >>>>Kenya eLearning Centre >>>>Nairobi, KENYA >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>------------------------------ >>>> >>>>Message: 3 >>>>Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:23:58 +0300 >>>>From: "Rad!" <conradakunga@gmail.com> >>>>To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>>>Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>>>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India >>>> on IT >>>>Message-ID: <BANLkTims+FqrUcG+Pmu+GmFdbiFYh9cNSQ@mail.gmail.com> >>>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >>>> >>>>I must challenge you there Robert. What do rent and kids have to do with >>>>creativity, drive and passion? Jonathan Ive, the principal designer of >>>> the >>>>iMac, titanium and aluminum PowerBook G4, MacBook, unibody MacBook >>>>Pro, iPod, iPhone, and iPad has a wife and two kids. Twins. Doesn't seem >>>> to >>>>have slowed him down any. >>>> >>>>On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:26 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk > >>>>wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi >>>>> The first step is to have a passion for what you want to do, then >>>>> identify >>>>a problem that needs solving and solve it all for the fun and passion of >>>> it >>>>not the money. >>>>> Mariga, Ronaldo and the rest of the ilk first played soccer for the fun >>>>and passion of the game the scouts, enforcements and money then followed. >>>>> Regards >>>>> PS. I was recently reminded that once you have rent to pay your >>>>> ability >>>>to do anything new diminishes exponentially and once the kids come along >>>>forget about coming up with any radical, industry changing application or >>>>business concept. If the idea was not incubated when you where in high >>>>school or campus then join the large band of IT vendors as the other >>>> train >>>>has left. >>>>> >>>>> Robert Yawe >>>>> KAY System Technologies Ltd >>>>> Phoenix House, 6th Floor >>>>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 >>>>> Kenya >>>>> >>>>> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> From: Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> >>>>> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> >>>>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>>>> Sent: Mon, 13 June, 2011 9:01:18 >>>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India >>>>> on >>>>IT >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 8:29 AM, robert yawe < robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> >>>>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> This will give you an insight into how we can go from being a talk >>>>>> shop >>>>and baby cries and get down to doing some serious productive work. >>>>>> Without fear I will repeat what I commented previously "money follows >>>>great ideas; period". I also like a comment from a Google employee, in >>>> one >>>>of the documentaries, "Google is an extension of college" >>>>> >>>>> What's the first step? >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> With Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Phares Kariuki >>>>> >>>>> | T: +254 720 406 093 | E: pkariuki@gmail.com | Twitter: kaboro | >>>>> Skype: >>>>kariukiphares | B: http://www.kaboro.com/ | >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> kictanet mailing list >>>>> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>>>> >>>>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/conradakunga%40gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >>>>for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>>>regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>>>sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and >>>> development. >>>>> >>>>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >>>>online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and >>>> bandwidth, >>>>share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >>>>not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>>>
Hi Andrea I can insult you in ways you will never understand or appreciate but half of those on the list will, so please lets keep to the issues at hand and stop trying to belittle the rest of us. You are definitely over 24 years of age so please accept that fact as neither you no I can do anything about it. In my post I clearly indicted that you and I are beyond the "use by date" in as far as developing a radical technology based innovation is concerned. We might make brilliant parents and grand parents, we have the experience of age that no one can take away from us but we must acknowledge the facts on the ground and stop behaving like the Chama Cha Mapinduzi Youth Wing whose 50 year old chairman kept holding onto the post by changing the definition of the term Youth. Nyerere finally put the issue to rest as I would like to here, youth is a factor of age, period. Regards PS. A wise Matatu Makanga retort "hunilipii kodi kwa hivio tabu yako namimi ni nini?" a translation for your sake Andrea "You do not pay my rent , so what's your beef with me?" Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: Andrea Bohnstedt <andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wed, 15 June, 2011 12:03:32 Subject: Re: [kictanet] 24! Your dead in the water Robert, there are plenty of people above the age of 24 who make a mark in society, not just in ICT, but in many other sectors as well - they probably just don't have time to chitchat on an ICT mailing list all day long. Financiers, coaches, managers are an important part of the system. It's a bit difficult to get anything off the ground without managers and financiers. And not everyone is a good entrepreneur. Plus a country full of entrepreneurs and no employees to be employed in those fantastic companies they are going to create would be a bit pointless, no? Happy day everyone. Gotta scoot and do some work to keep my employees busy :) Andrea On 15 June 2011 11:16, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: Hi,
It seems my comment about those older than 24 to give up on making a mark in society, apart from political, touched a raw nerve.
Please do not get disillusioned the following avenues still exist for you;
1. Become an angel investor to the under 24 year old's (Google received US $100,000/-, do the ROI) 2. Mentor and/or incubate the under 24 year old's (Sam please share) 3. Encourage and motivate your children, nephews and nieces who are under 16 years to take up development (Mark Zuckerberg was writing serious code he had taught himself when he was only 9 years old & turned down a job offers from AOL & Microsoft when he was in high school, - what is your 9 year old doing?)
Even as old as we are we still can be part of the next big non-political revolution so long as we accept the fact that we shall be ball "boys", coaches, managers, financiers and onlookers but not player on the pitch which is why I continue to campaign for the post of Post Master General, king of snail mail.
FYI: Mark Zuckerberg is another one in the long line including Bill Gates, Microsoft owner, and Steve Jobs, Apple CEO and largest shareholder of Disney. These guys keep reinforcing the myth that college graduates become employees in companies owned by college dropouts, who become billionaires.
Rather than becoming dependable citizens looking for jobs, people like Mark Zuckerberg believe in becoming deviants, who go on to create jobs, and possess the cheek to do so without inheriting big bank accounts. One Mark Zuckerberg is sufficient to set millions of kids dreaming and doing awful damage to the tenets of civilized society, as we know it. Good boys should go through college, study as much as they can, and lose as much of their originality as they can, to become solid dependable workers for our industrial system. People like Mark Zuckerberg , just by their existence, incite others to think, something that has always been disapproved by good society, starting with the burning of Copernicus.
http://www.clevelcrossing.com/article/900107/Mark-Zuckerberg-Facebook-Owner-...
Regards
PS. Do despair, in so long as developing that killer up is concerned but be re-energised by the other prevailing opportunities.
P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
________________________________ From: Andrea Bohnstedt <andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com>
To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Tue, 14 June, 2011 12:11:13 Subject: Re: [kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 49, Issue 48
Ory, we all know women can multi-task *much* better than guys :)
On 14 June 2011 11:24, Ory Okolloh <ookolloh@gmail.com> wrote:
Re radical ideas and kids.
Mzalendo grew and went live when I was pregnant with my first child, Ushahidi was born when I had a 10 month old and I quit my job to build the organization behind it when I had another on the way, expecting number 3 after recently joining Google and I'm sure I will continue to have new ideas there :-)
Ory
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Message: 1 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 06:06:34 +0000 From: "david.simbiri@lixnet.net" <david.simbiri@lixnet.net> To: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] mhealth breakfast Message-ID: <mailman.102.1308034036.28988.kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=UTF-8
I confirm my attendance.
---------- Sent from my Nokia Phone
------Original message------ From: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> To: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 5:29:18 AM GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: [kictanet] mhealth breakfast
Listers, My mistake on the date of this event. Veneue is the same tomorrow the 15th of June and not the 16th.
Regards
Ndemo.
Sent from my BlackBerry?
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Message: 2 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:18:41 +0300 From: Gakiria <gakiria@gmail.com> To: "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mhealth and medical cloud services Message-ID: <BANLkTimdeU58mP20k74a7tAejgD9u0K0Gw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
confirmed, will attend Andrew
On Tuesday, 14 June 2011, Suraj Shah <suraj@surajshah.co.ke> wrote:
I would like to attend. ?Thanks
Suraj Shah Corporate Affairs Manager Intel
On 6/14/11 5:00 AM, "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Listers, The breakfast meeting on medical cloud services will be at the Serena on
the
16th morning starting at the 7am. ?The sponsor has graciously accepted to have at list 10 of you.
Please let us have confirmations on the list. ?They will respond to you directly. ?I will not involve myself with the details of this invite.
Ndemo.
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Message: 3 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:23:58 +0300 From: "Rad!" <conradakunga@gmail.com> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India on IT Message-ID: <BANLkTims+FqrUcG+Pmu+GmFdbiFYh9cNSQ@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
I must challenge you there Robert. What do rent and kids have to do with creativity, drive and passion? Jonathan Ive, the principal designer of the iMac, titanium and aluminum PowerBook G4, MacBook, unibody MacBook Pro, iPod, iPhone, and iPad has a wife and two kids. Twins. Doesn't seem to have slowed him down any.
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:26 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi The first step is to have a passion for what you want to do, then identify
a problem that needs solving and solve it all for the fun and passion of it not the money.
Mariga, Ronaldo and the rest of the ilk first played soccer for the fun and passion of the game the scouts, enforcements and money then followed. Regards PS. I was recently reminded that once you have rent to pay your ability to do anything new diminishes exponentially and once the kids come along forget about coming up with any radical, industry changing application or business concept. If the idea was not incubated when you where in high school or campus then join the large band of IT vendors as the other train has left.
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
________________________________ From: Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Mon, 13 June, 2011 9:01:18 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India on IT
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 8:29 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
This will give you an insight into how we can go from being a talk shop
and baby cries and get down to doing some serious productive work.
Without fear I will repeat what I commented previously "money follows great ideas; period". I also like a comment from a Google employee, in one of the documentaries, "Google is an extension of college"
What's the first step?
-- With Regards,
Phares Kariuki
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Hi, When did you acquire the skills that enabled you to launch Mzalendo and the others, was it during your pregnancy, after the delivery or before both events? Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: Ory Okolloh <ookolloh@gmail.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Tue, 14 June, 2011 11:24:43 Subject: Re: [kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 49, Issue 48 Re radical ideas and kids. Mzalendo grew and went live when I was pregnant with my first child, Ushahidi was born when I had a 10 month old and I quit my job to build the organization behind it when I had another on the way, expecting number 3 after recently joining Google and I'm sure I will continue to have new ideas there :-) Ory On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 8:47 AM, <kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Send kictanet mailing list submissions to
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Message: 1 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 06:06:34 +0000 From: "david.simbiri@lixnet.net" <david.simbiri@lixnet.net> To: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] mhealth breakfast Message-ID: <mailman.102.1308034036.28988.kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=UTF-8
I confirm my attendance.
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------Original message------ From: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> To: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 5:29:18 AM GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: [kictanet] mhealth breakfast
Listers, My mistake on the date of this event. Veneue is the same tomorrow the 15th of June and not the 16th.
Regards
Ndemo.
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Message: 2 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:18:41 +0300 From: Gakiria <gakiria@gmail.com> To: "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mhealth and medical cloud services Message-ID: <BANLkTimdeU58mP20k74a7tAejgD9u0K0Gw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
confirmed, will attend Andrew
On Tuesday, 14 June 2011, Suraj Shah <suraj@surajshah.co.ke> wrote:
I would like to attend. ?Thanks
Suraj Shah Corporate Affairs Manager Intel
On 6/14/11 5:00 AM, "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Listers, The breakfast meeting on medical cloud services will be at the Serena on the 16th morning starting at the 7am. ?The sponsor has graciously accepted to have at list 10 of you.
Please let us have confirmations on the list. ?They will respond to you directly. ?I will not involve myself with the details of this invite.
Ndemo.
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Message: 3 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:23:58 +0300 From: "Rad!" <conradakunga@gmail.com> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India on IT Message-ID: <BANLkTims+FqrUcG+Pmu+GmFdbiFYh9cNSQ@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
I must challenge you there Robert. What do rent and kids have to do with creativity, drive and passion? Jonathan Ive, the principal designer of the iMac, titanium and aluminum PowerBook G4, MacBook, unibody MacBook Pro, iPod, iPhone, and iPad has a wife and two kids. Twins. Doesn't seem to have slowed him down any.
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:26 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi The first step is to have a passion for what you want to do, then identify
a problem that needs solving and solve it all for the fun and passion of it not the money.
Mariga, Ronaldo and the rest of the ilk first played soccer for the fun and passion of the game the scouts, enforcements and money then followed. Regards PS. I was recently reminded that once you have rent to pay your ability to do anything new diminishes exponentially and once the kids come along forget about coming up with any radical, industry changing application or business concept. If the idea was not incubated when you where in high school or campus then join the large band of IT vendors as the other train has left.
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
________________________________ From: Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Mon, 13 June, 2011 9:01:18 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India on IT
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 8:29 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
This will give you an insight into how we can go from being a talk shop
and baby cries and get down to doing some serious productive work.
Without fear I will repeat what I commented previously "money follows great ideas; period". I also like a comment from a Google employee, in one of the documentaries, "Google is an extension of college"
What's the first step?
-- With Regards,
Phares Kariuki
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I will attend. Please include my name Paul Roy. On Jun 14, 2011, at 11:24 AM, Ory Okolloh <ookolloh@gmail.com> wrote:
Re radical ideas and kids.
Mzalendo grew and went live when I was pregnant with my first child, Ushahidi was born when I had a 10 month old and I quit my job to build the organization behind it when I had another on the way, expecting number 3 after recently joining Google and I'm sure I will continue to have new ideas there :-)
Ory
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Message: 1 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 06:06:34 +0000 From: "david.simbiri@lixnet.net" <david.simbiri@lixnet.net> To: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] mhealth breakfast Message-ID: <mailman.102.1308034036.28988.kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=UTF-8
I confirm my attendance.
---------- Sent from my Nokia Phone
------Original message------ From: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> To: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 5:29:18 AM GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: [kictanet] mhealth breakfast
Listers, My mistake on the date of this event. Veneue is the same tomorrow the 15th of June and not the 16th.
Regards
Ndemo.
Sent from my BlackBerry?
-----Original Message----- From: "Harry Delano" <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> Sender: kictanet-bounces+bitange=jambo.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 20:20:46 To: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Reply-To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India on IT
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Message: 2 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:18:41 +0300 From: Gakiria <gakiria@gmail.com> To: "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mhealth and medical cloud services Message-ID: <BANLkTimdeU58mP20k74a7tAejgD9u0K0Gw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
confirmed, will attend Andrew
On Tuesday, 14 June 2011, Suraj Shah <suraj@surajshah.co.ke> wrote:
I would like to attend. ?Thanks
Suraj Shah Corporate Affairs Manager Intel
On 6/14/11 5:00 AM, "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Listers, The breakfast meeting on medical cloud services will be at the Serena on the 16th morning starting at the 7am. ?The sponsor has graciously accepted to have at list 10 of you.
Please let us have confirmations on the list. ?They will respond to you directly. ?I will not involve myself with the details of this invite.
Ndemo.
Sent from my BlackBerry?
-----Original Message----- From: "Harry Delano" <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> Sender: kictanet-bounces+bitange=jambo.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 20:20:46 To: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Reply-To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India on IT
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Message: 3 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:23:58 +0300 From: "Rad!" <conradakunga@gmail.com> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India on IT Message-ID: <BANLkTims+FqrUcG+Pmu+GmFdbiFYh9cNSQ@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
I must challenge you there Robert. What do rent and kids have to do with creativity, drive and passion? Jonathan Ive, the principal designer of the iMac, titanium and aluminum PowerBook G4, MacBook, unibody MacBook Pro, iPod, iPhone, and iPad has a wife and two kids. Twins. Doesn't seem to have slowed him down any.
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:26 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi The first step is to have a passion for what you want to do, then identify
a problem that needs solving and solve it all for the fun and passion of it not the money.
Mariga, Ronaldo and the rest of the ilk first played soccer for the fun and passion of the game the scouts, enforcements and money then followed. Regards PS. I was recently reminded that once you have rent to pay your ability to do anything new diminishes exponentially and once the kids come along forget about coming up with any radical, industry changing application or business concept. If the idea was not incubated when you where in high school or campus then join the large band of IT vendors as the other train has left.
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
________________________________ From: Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Mon, 13 June, 2011 9:01:18 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India on IT
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 8:29 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
This will give you an insight into how we can go from being a talk shop
and baby cries and get down to doing some serious productive work.
Without fear I will repeat what I commented previously "money follows great ideas; period". I also like a comment from a Google employee, in one of the documentaries, "Google is an extension of college"
What's the first step?
-- With Regards,
Phares Kariuki
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Ory, I have been giving these speeches on population management. Unless we stop at number 3, we shall have a serious crisis not only as a nation but as family in the form of distributed love. The fewer children one has the more chances of living longer and having genuine love to the siblings. Studies show that most mothers with very many children hadly remember the names of their children. In most cases they attempt to call one Jo.., Sa... Ma... but end up asking who is there. Hopefully, this explains: http://www.google.com/publicdata/home Regards Ndemo.
Re radical ideas and kids.
Mzalendo grew and went live when I was pregnant with my first child, Ushahidi was born when I had a 10 month old and I quit my job to build the organization behind it when I had another on the way, expecting number 3 after recently joining Google and I'm sure I will continue to have new ideas there :-)
Ory
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Message: 1 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 06:06:34 +0000 From: "david.simbiri@lixnet.net" <david.simbiri@lixnet.net> To: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] mhealth breakfast Message-ID: <mailman.102.1308034036.28988.kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=UTF-8
I confirm my attendance.
---------- Sent from my Nokia Phone
------Original message------ From: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> To: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 5:29:18 AM GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: [kictanet] mhealth breakfast
Listers, My mistake on the date of this event. Veneue is the same tomorrow the 15th of June and not the 16th.
Regards
Ndemo.
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Message: 2 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:18:41 +0300 From: Gakiria <gakiria@gmail.com> To: "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mhealth and medical cloud services Message-ID: <BANLkTimdeU58mP20k74a7tAejgD9u0K0Gw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
confirmed, will attend Andrew
I would like to attend. ?Thanks
Suraj Shah Corporate Affairs Manager Intel
On 6/14/11 5:00 AM, "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Listers, The breakfast meeting on medical cloud services will be at the Serena on
16th morning starting at the 7am. ?The sponsor has graciously accepted to have at list 10 of you.
Please let us have confirmations on the list. ?They will respond to you directly. ?I will not involve myself with the details of this invite.
Ndemo.
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Message: 3 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:23:58 +0300 From: "Rad!" <conradakunga@gmail.com> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India on IT Message-ID: <BANLkTims+FqrUcG+Pmu+GmFdbiFYh9cNSQ@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
I must challenge you there Robert. What do rent and kids have to do with creativity, drive and passion? Jonathan Ive, the principal designer of the iMac, titanium and aluminum PowerBook G4, MacBook, unibody MacBook Pro, iPod, iPhone, and iPad has a wife and two kids. Twins. Doesn't seem to have slowed him down any.
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:26 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi The first step is to have a passion for what you want to do, then
Mariga, Ronaldo and the rest of the ilk first played soccer for the fun and passion of the game the scouts, enforcements and money then followed. Regards PS. I was recently reminded that once you have rent to pay your ability to do anything new diminishes exponentially and once the kids come along forget about coming up with any radical, industry changing application or business concept. If the idea was not incubated when you where in high school or campus then join the large band of IT vendors as the other
identify a problem that needs solving and solve it all for the fun and passion of it not the money. train has left.
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
________________________________ From: Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Mon, 13 June, 2011 9:01:18 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India
on IT
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 8:29 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
This will give you an insight into how we can go from being a talk
shop and baby cries and get down to doing some serious productive work.
Without fear I will repeat what I commented previously "money follows great ideas; period". I also like a comment from a Google employee, in one of the documentaries, "Google is an extension of college"
What's the first step?
-- With Regards,
Phares Kariuki
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Really cool tool Daktari. Sent from my iPad On Jun 15, 2011, at 6:48 PM, "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Ory, I have been giving these speeches on population management. Unless we stop at number 3, we shall have a serious crisis not only as a nation but as family in the form of distributed love. The fewer children one has the more chances of living longer and having genuine love to the siblings. Studies show that most mothers with very many children hadly remember the names of their children. In most cases they attempt to call one Jo.., Sa... Ma... but end up asking who is there. Hopefully, this explains:
http://www.google.com/publicdata/home
Regards
Ndemo.
Re radical ideas and kids.
Mzalendo grew and went live when I was pregnant with my first child, Ushahidi was born when I had a 10 month old and I quit my job to build the organization behind it when I had another on the way, expecting number 3 after recently joining Google and I'm sure I will continue to have new ideas there :-)
Ory
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Message: 1 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 06:06:34 +0000 From: "david.simbiri@lixnet.net" <david.simbiri@lixnet.net> To: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] mhealth breakfast Message-ID: <mailman.102.1308034036.28988.kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=UTF-8
I confirm my attendance.
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------Original message------ From: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> To: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 5:29:18 AM GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: [kictanet] mhealth breakfast
Listers, My mistake on the date of this event. Veneue is the same tomorrow the 15th of June and not the 16th.
Regards
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Message: 2 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:18:41 +0300 From: Gakiria <gakiria@gmail.com> To: "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mhealth and medical cloud services Message-ID: <BANLkTimdeU58mP20k74a7tAejgD9u0K0Gw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
confirmed, will attend Andrew
I would like to attend. ?Thanks
Suraj Shah Corporate Affairs Manager Intel
On 6/14/11 5:00 AM, "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Listers, The breakfast meeting on medical cloud services will be at the Serena on
16th morning starting at the 7am. ?The sponsor has graciously accepted to have at list 10 of you.
Please let us have confirmations on the list. ?They will respond to you directly. ?I will not involve myself with the details of this invite.
Ndemo.
Sent from my BlackBerry?
-----Original Message----- From: "Harry Delano" <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> Sender: kictanet-bounces+bitange=jambo.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 20:20:46 To: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Reply-To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India on IT
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Message: 3 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:23:58 +0300 From: "Rad!" <conradakunga@gmail.com> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India on IT Message-ID: <BANLkTims+FqrUcG+Pmu+GmFdbiFYh9cNSQ@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
I must challenge you there Robert. What do rent and kids have to do with creativity, drive and passion? Jonathan Ive, the principal designer of the iMac, titanium and aluminum PowerBook G4, MacBook, unibody MacBook Pro, iPod, iPhone, and iPad has a wife and two kids. Twins. Doesn't seem to have slowed him down any.
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:26 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi The first step is to have a passion for what you want to do, then
Mariga, Ronaldo and the rest of the ilk first played soccer for the fun and passion of the game the scouts, enforcements and money then followed. Regards PS. I was recently reminded that once you have rent to pay your ability to do anything new diminishes exponentially and once the kids come along forget about coming up with any radical, industry changing application or business concept. If the idea was not incubated when you where in high school or campus then join the large band of IT vendors as the other
identify a problem that needs solving and solve it all for the fun and passion of it not the money. train has left.
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
________________________________ From: Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Mon, 13 June, 2011 9:01:18 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India
on IT
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 8:29 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
This will give you an insight into how we can go from being a talk
shop and baby cries and get down to doing some serious productive work.
Without fear I will repeat what I commented previously "money follows great ideas; period". I also like a comment from a Google employee, in one of the documentaries, "Google is an extension of college"
What's the first step?
-- With Regards,
Phares Kariuki
| T: +254 720 406 093 | E: pkariuki@gmail.com | Twitter: kaboro | Skype: kariukiphares | B: http://www.kaboro.com/ |
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Daktari, Ory & Rigia I was hoping this thread would die on its own but now you have fueled it and I am forced to declare it off-topic to present further discussion since I am unable to see the connection between number of babies and ICTs ;-) But as a parting shot (and I hope am the last one to speak on this off-topic item) - the more babies the merrier. Look at the the top ten economies US, China, Japan, Korea, India, Brazil etc and you realize they are all "over-populated" from an economist point view. It means that perhaps that over-population is the source of development. walu. --- On Wed, 6/15/11, bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote: From: bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 49, Issue 48 To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Wednesday, June 15, 2011, 6:40 PM Ory, I have been giving these speeches on population management. Unless we stop at number 3, we shall have a serious crisis not only as a nation but as family in the form of distributed love. The fewer children one has the more chances of living longer and having genuine love to the siblings. Studies show that most mothers with very many children hadly remember the names of their children. In most cases they attempt to call one Jo.., Sa... Ma... but end up asking who is there. Hopefully, this explains: http://www.google.com/publicdata/home Regards Ndemo.
Re radical ideas and kids.
Mzalendo grew and went live when I was pregnant with my first child, Ushahidi was born when I had a 10 month old and I quit my job to build the organization behind it when I had another on the way, expecting number 3 after recently joining Google and I'm sure I will continue to have new ideas there :-)
Ory
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I confirm my attendance.
---------- Sent from my Nokia Phone
------Original message------ From: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> To: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 5:29:18 AM GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: [kictanet] mhealth breakfast
Listers, My mistake on the date of this event. Veneue is the same tomorrow the 15th of June and not the 16th.
Regards
Ndemo.
Sent from my BlackBerry?
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Message: 2 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:18:41 +0300 From: Gakiria <gakiria@gmail.com> To: "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mhealth and medical cloud services Message-ID: <BANLkTimdeU58mP20k74a7tAejgD9u0K0Gw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
confirmed, will attend Andrew
I would like to attend. ?Thanks
Suraj Shah Corporate Affairs Manager Intel
On 6/14/11 5:00 AM, "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Listers, The breakfast meeting on medical cloud services will be at the Serena on
16th morning starting at the 7am. ?The sponsor has graciously accepted to have at list 10 of you.
Please let us have confirmations on the list. ?They will respond to you directly. ?I will not involve myself with the details of this invite.
Ndemo.
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Message: 3 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:23:58 +0300 From: "Rad!" <conradakunga@gmail.com> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India on IT Message-ID: <BANLkTims+FqrUcG+Pmu+GmFdbiFYh9cNSQ@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
I must challenge you there Robert. What do rent and kids have to do with creativity, drive and passion? Jonathan Ive, the principal designer of the iMac, titanium and aluminum PowerBook G4, MacBook, unibody MacBook Pro, iPod, iPhone, and iPad has a wife and two kids. Twins. Doesn't seem to have slowed him down any.
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:26 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi The first step is to have a passion for what you want to do, then
Mariga, Ronaldo and the rest of the ilk first played soccer for the fun and passion of the game the scouts, enforcements and money then followed. Regards PS. I was recently reminded that once you have rent to pay your ability to do anything new diminishes exponentially and once the kids come along forget about coming up with any radical, industry changing application or business concept. If the idea was not incubated when you where in high school or campus then join the large band of IT vendors as the other
identify a problem that needs solving and solve it all for the fun and passion of it not the money. train has left.
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
________________________________ From: Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Mon, 13 June, 2011 9:01:18 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India
on IT
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 8:29 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
This will give you an insight into how we can go from being a talk
shop and baby cries and get down to doing some serious productive work.
Without fear I will repeat what I commented previously "money follows great ideas; period". I also like a comment from a Google employee, in one of the documentaries, "Google is an extension of college"
What's the first step?
-- With Regards,
Phares Kariuki
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Hi Walu, You cannot close a discussion by adding firewood to the flames, your action might be construed to be a reflection of what daktari said, the more children you have the less attention you are able to give them. Your need to have the final word confirms what daktari was reiterating and it does have a bearing on ICT, see the number of siblings that the top technology innovators had and then the relationship will become clearer. Regards PS. I am a middle child and like you has always wanted to have the final word, I declare this discussion officially terminated. Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wed, 15 June, 2011 19:53:52 Subject: Re: [kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 49, Issue 48-offside. Daktari, Ory & Rigia I was hoping this thread would die on its own but now you have fueled it and I am forced to declare it off-topic to present further discussion since I am unable to see the connection between number of babies and ICTs ;-) But as a parting shot (and I hope am the last one to speak on this off-topic item) - the more babies the merrier. Look at the the top ten economies US, China, Japan, Korea, India, Brazil etc and you realize they are all "over-populated" from an economist point view. It means that perhaps that over-population is the source of development. walu. --- On Wed, 6/15/11, bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
From: bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 49, Issue 48 To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Wednesday, June 15, 2011, 6:40 PM
Ory, I have been giving these speeches on population management. Unless we stop at number 3, we shall have a serious crisis not only as a nation but as family in the form of distributed love. The fewer children one has the more chances of living longer and having genuine love to the siblings. Studies show that most mothers with very many children hadly remember the names of their children. In most cases they attempt to call one Jo.., Sa... Ma... but end up asking who is there. Hopefully, this explains:
http://www.google.com/publicdata/home
Regards
Ndemo.
Re radical ideas and kids.
Mzalendo grew and went live when I was pregnant with my first child, Ushahidi was born when I had a 10 month old and I quit my job to build the organization behind it when I had another on the way, expecting number 3 after recently joining Google and I'm sure I will continue to have new ideas there :-)
Ory
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Message: 1 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 06:06:34 +0000 From: "david.simbiri@lixnet.net" <david.simbiri@lixnet.net> To: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] mhealth breakfast Message-ID: <mailman.102.1308034036.28988.kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=UTF-8
I confirm my attendance.
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Listers, My mistake on the date of this event. Veneue is the same tomorrow the 15th of June and not the 16th.
Regards
Ndemo.
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confirmed, will attend Andrew
I would like to attend. ?Thanks
Suraj Shah Corporate Affairs Manager Intel
On 6/14/11 5:00 AM, "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Listers, The breakfast meeting on medical cloud services will be at the Serena on
16th morning starting at the 7am. ?The sponsor has graciously accepted to have at list 10 of you.
Please let us have confirmations on the list. ?They will respond to you directly. ?I will not involve myself with the details of this invite.
Ndemo.
Sent from my BlackBerry?
-----Original Message----- From: "Harry Delano" <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> Sender: kictanet-bounces+bitange=jambo.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 20:20:46 To: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Reply-To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India on IT
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Message: 3 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:23:58 +0300 From: "Rad!" <conradakunga@gmail.com> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India on IT Message-ID: <BANLkTims+FqrUcG+Pmu+GmFdbiFYh9cNSQ@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
I must challenge you there Robert. What do rent and kids have to do with creativity, drive and passion? Jonathan Ive, the principal designer of the iMac, titanium and aluminum PowerBook G4, MacBook, unibody MacBook Pro, iPod, iPhone, and iPad has a wife and two kids. Twins. Doesn't seem to have slowed him down any.
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:26 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi The first step is to have a passion for what you want to do, then
Mariga, Ronaldo and the rest of the ilk first played soccer for the fun and passion of the game the scouts, enforcements and money then followed. Regards PS. I was recently reminded that once you have rent to pay your ability to do anything new diminishes exponentially and once the kids come along forget about coming up with any radical, industry changing application or business concept. If the idea was not incubated when you where in high school or campus then join the large band of IT vendors as the other
identify a problem that needs solving and solve it all for the fun and passion of it not the money. train has left.
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
________________________________ From: Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Mon, 13 June, 2011 9:01:18 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India
on IT
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 8:29 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
This will give you an insight into how we can go from being a talk
shop and baby cries and get down to doing some serious productive work.
Without fear I will repeat what I commented previously "money follows great ideas; period". I also like a comment from a Google employee, in one of the documentaries, "Google is an extension of college"
What's the first step?
-- With Regards,
Phares Kariuki
| T: +254 720 406 093 | E: pkariuki@gmail.com | Twitter: kaboro | Skype: kariukiphares | B: http://www.kaboro.com/ |
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Duly noted. Daktari, I have stopped at 3. Yours, Rigia On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Daktari, Ory & Rigia
I was hoping this thread would die on its own but now you have fueled it and I am forced to declare it off-topic to present further discussion since I am unable to see the connection between number of babies and ICTs ;-)
But as a parting shot (and I hope am the last one to speak on this off-topic item) - the more babies the merrier. Look at the the top ten economies US, China, Japan, Korea, India, Brazil etc and you realize they are all "over-populated" from an economist point view. It means that perhaps that over-population is the source of development.
walu.
--- On *Wed, 6/15/11, bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke>* wrote:
From: bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 49, Issue 48 To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Wednesday, June 15, 2011, 6:40 PM
Ory, I have been giving these speeches on population management. Unless we stop at number 3, we shall have a serious crisis not only as a nation but as family in the form of distributed love. The fewer children one has the more chances of living longer and having genuine love to the siblings. Studies show that most mothers with very many children hadly remember the names of their children. In most cases they attempt to call one Jo.., Sa... Ma... but end up asking who is there. Hopefully, this explains:
http://www.google.com/publicdata/home
Regards
Ndemo.
Re radical ideas and kids.
Mzalendo grew and went live when I was pregnant with my first child, Ushahidi was born when I had a 10 month old and I quit my job to build the organization behind it when I had another on the way, expecting number 3 after recently joining Google and I'm sure I will continue to have new ideas there :-)
Ory
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I confirm my attendance.
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Listers, My mistake on the date of this event. Veneue is the same tomorrow the 15th of June and not the 16th.
Regards
Ndemo.
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confirmed, will attend Andrew
I would like to attend. ?Thanks
Suraj Shah Corporate Affairs Manager Intel
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Listers, The breakfast meeting on medical cloud services will be at the Serena on
On Tuesday, 14 June 2011, Suraj Shah <suraj@surajshah.co.ke<http://mc/compose?to=suraj@surajshah.co.ke>> wrote: the
16th morning starting at the 7am. ?The sponsor has graciously accepted to have at list 10 of you.
Please let us have confirmations on the list. ?They will respond to you directly. ?I will not involve myself with the details of this invite.
Ndemo.
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Message: 3 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:23:58 +0300 From: "Rad!" <conradakunga@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=conradakunga@gmail.com>
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I must challenge you there Robert. What do rent and kids have to do with creativity, drive and passion? Jonathan Ive, the principal designer of the iMac, titanium and aluminum PowerBook G4, MacBook, unibody MacBook Pro, iPod, iPhone, and iPad has a wife and two kids. Twins. Doesn't seem to have slowed him down any.
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:26 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk<http://mc/compose?to=robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>
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Hi The first step is to have a passion for what you want to do, then
Mariga, Ronaldo and the rest of the ilk first played soccer for the fun and passion of the game the scouts, enforcements and money then followed. Regards PS. I was recently reminded that once you have rent to pay your ability to do anything new diminishes exponentially and once the kids come along forget about coming up with any radical, industry changing application or business concept. If the idea was not incubated when you where in high school or campus then join the large band of IT vendors as the other
identify a problem that needs solving and solve it all for the fun and passion of it not the money. train has left.
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 8:29 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk<http://mc/compose?to=robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
This will give you an insight into how we can go from being a talk
shop and baby cries and get down to doing some serious productive work.
Without fear I will repeat what I commented previously "money follows great ideas; period". I also like a comment from a Google employee, in one of the documentaries, "Google is an extension of college"
What's the first step?
-- With Regards,
Phares Kariuki
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Rigia/Ory/Daktari, There's something magic about 3 - not too small, not too big, depending on the gap in between, they are friends as well as mentors. My most productive years were between my first born and my last born (I have three too - and mark my use of the words "last born" - enough quivers in my bow!) Best regards, Brian On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:42 AM, warigia bowman <warigia@aucegypt.edu>wrote:
Duly noted. Daktari, I have stopped at 3.
Yours, Rigia
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Daktari, Ory & Rigia
I was hoping this thread would die on its own but now you have fueled it and I am forced to declare it off-topic to present further discussion since I am unable to see the connection between number of babies and ICTs ;-)
But as a parting shot (and I hope am the last one to speak on this off-topic item) - the more babies the merrier. Look at the the top ten economies US, China, Japan, Korea, India, Brazil etc and you realize they are all "over-populated" from an economist point view. It means that perhaps that over-population is the source of development.
walu.
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From: bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 49, Issue 48 To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Wednesday, June 15, 2011, 6:40 PM
Ory, I have been giving these speeches on population management. Unless we stop at number 3, we shall have a serious crisis not only as a nation but as family in the form of distributed love. The fewer children one has the more chances of living longer and having genuine love to the siblings. Studies show that most mothers with very many children hadly remember the names of their children. In most cases they attempt to call one Jo.., Sa... Ma... but end up asking who is there. Hopefully, this explains:
http://www.google.com/publicdata/home
Regards
Ndemo.
Re radical ideas and kids.
Mzalendo grew and went live when I was pregnant with my first child, Ushahidi was born when I had a 10 month old and I quit my job to build the organization behind it when I had another on the way, expecting number 3 after recently joining Google and I'm sure I will continue to have new ideas there :-)
Ory
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Message: 1 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 06:06:34 +0000 From: "david.simbiri@lixnet.net<http://mc/compose?to=david.simbiri@lixnet.net>" <david.simbiri@lixnet.net <http://mc/compose?to=david.simbiri@lixnet.net>
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I confirm my attendance.
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Date: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 5:29:18 AM GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: [kictanet] mhealth breakfast
Listers, My mistake on the date of this event. Veneue is the same tomorrow the 15th of June and not the 16th.
Regards
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confirmed, will attend Andrew
I would like to attend. ?Thanks
Suraj Shah Corporate Affairs Manager Intel
On 6/14/11 5:00 AM, "bitange@jambo.co.ke<http://mc/compose?to=bitange@jambo.co.ke>" <bitange@jambo.co.ke <http://mc/compose?to=bitange@jambo.co.ke>> wrote:
Listers, The breakfast meeting on medical cloud services will be at the Serena on
On Tuesday, 14 June 2011, Suraj Shah <suraj@surajshah.co.ke<http://mc/compose?to=suraj@surajshah.co.ke>> wrote: the
16th morning starting at the 7am. ?The sponsor has graciously accepted to have at list 10 of you.
Please let us have confirmations on the list. ?They will respond to you directly. ?I will not involve myself with the details of this invite.
Ndemo.
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I must challenge you there Robert. What do rent and kids have to do with creativity, drive and passion? Jonathan Ive, the principal designer of the iMac, titanium and aluminum PowerBook G4, MacBook, unibody MacBook Pro, iPod, iPhone, and iPad has a wife and two kids. Twins. Doesn't seem to have slowed him down any.
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:26 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk<http://mc/compose?to=robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
Hi The first step is to have a passion for what you want to do, then
Mariga, Ronaldo and the rest of the ilk first played soccer for the fun and passion of the game the scouts, enforcements and money then followed. Regards PS. I was recently reminded that once you have rent to pay your ability to do anything new diminishes exponentially and once the kids come along forget about coming up with any radical, industry changing application or business concept. If the idea was not incubated when you where in high school or campus then join the large band of IT vendors as the other
identify a problem that needs solving and solve it all for the fun and passion of it not the money. train has left.
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
________________________________ From: Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=pkariuki@gmail.com>
To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk<http://mc/compose?to=robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>
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Sent: Mon, 13 June, 2011 9:01:18 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India on IT
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 8:29 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk<http://mc/compose?to=robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
This will give you an insight into how we can go from being a talk
shop and baby cries and get down to doing some serious productive work.
Without fear I will repeat what I commented previously "money follows great ideas; period". I also like a comment from a Google employee, in one of the documentaries, "Google is an extension of college"
What's the first step?
-- With Regards,
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Hi Walu, You cannot close a discussion by adding firewood to the flames, your action might be construed to be a reflection of what daktari said, the more children you have the less attention you are able to give them. Your need to have the final word confirms what daktari was reiterating and it does have a bearing on ICT, see the number of siblings that the top technology innovators had and then the relationship will become clearer. Regards PS. I am a middle child and like you has always wanted to have the final word, I declare this discussion officially terminated. Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wed, 15 June, 2011 19:53:52 Subject: Re: [kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 49, Issue 48-offside. Daktari, Ory & Rigia I was hoping this thread would die on its own but now you have fueled it and I am forced to declare it off-topic to present further discussion since I am unable to see the connection between number of babies and ICTs ;-) But as a parting shot (and I hope am the last one to speak on this off-topic item) - the more babies the merrier. Look at the the top ten economies US, China, Japan, Korea, India, Brazil etc and you realize they are all "over-populated" from an economist point view. It means that perhaps that over-population is the source of development. walu. --- On Wed, 6/15/11, bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
From: bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 49, Issue 48 To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Wednesday, June 15, 2011, 6:40 PM
Ory, I have been giving these speeches on population management. Unless we stop at number 3, we shall have a serious crisis not only as a nation but as family in the form of distributed love. The fewer children one has the more chances of living longer and having genuine love to the siblings. Studies show that most mothers with very many children hadly remember the names of their children. In most cases they attempt to call one Jo.., Sa... Ma... but end up asking who is there. Hopefully, this explains:
http://www.google.com/publicdata/home
Regards
Ndemo.
Re radical ideas and kids.
Mzalendo grew and went live when I was pregnant with my first child, Ushahidi was born when I had a 10 month old and I quit my job to build the organization behind it when I had another on the way, expecting number 3 after recently joining Google and I'm sure I will continue to have new ideas there :-)
Ory
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Listers, My mistake on the date of this event. Veneue is the same tomorrow the 15th of June and not the 16th.
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confirmed, will attend Andrew
I would like to attend. ?Thanks
Suraj Shah Corporate Affairs Manager Intel
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Listers, The breakfast meeting on medical cloud services will be at the Serena on
16th morning starting at the 7am. ?The sponsor has graciously accepted to have at list 10 of you.
Please let us have confirmations on the list. ?They will respond to you directly. ?I will not involve myself with the details of this invite.
Ndemo.
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Message: 3 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:23:58 +0300 From: "Rad!" <conradakunga@gmail.com> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India on IT Message-ID: <BANLkTims+FqrUcG+Pmu+GmFdbiFYh9cNSQ@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
I must challenge you there Robert. What do rent and kids have to do with creativity, drive and passion? Jonathan Ive, the principal designer of the iMac, titanium and aluminum PowerBook G4, MacBook, unibody MacBook Pro, iPod, iPhone, and iPad has a wife and two kids. Twins. Doesn't seem to have slowed him down any.
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:26 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi The first step is to have a passion for what you want to do, then
Mariga, Ronaldo and the rest of the ilk first played soccer for the fun and passion of the game the scouts, enforcements and money then followed. Regards PS. I was recently reminded that once you have rent to pay your ability to do anything new diminishes exponentially and once the kids come along forget about coming up with any radical, industry changing application or business concept. If the idea was not incubated when you where in high school or campus then join the large band of IT vendors as the other
identify a problem that needs solving and solve it all for the fun and passion of it not the money. train has left.
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
________________________________ From: Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Mon, 13 June, 2011 9:01:18 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India
on IT
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 8:29 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
This will give you an insight into how we can go from being a talk
shop and baby cries and get down to doing some serious productive work.
Without fear I will repeat what I commented previously "money follows great ideas; period". I also like a comment from a Google employee, in one of the documentaries, "Google is an extension of college"
What's the first step?
-- With Regards,
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http://www.babycenter.com/0_family-size-in-america-are-large-families-back_1... Families with 3-4 kids are not over populating Africa.. Note: Geographically we are 3X larger than China http://www.scribd.com/doc/533024/African-Overpopulation On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Daktari, Ory & Rigia
I was hoping this thread would die on its own but now you have fueled it and I am forced to declare it off-topic to present further discussion since I am unable to see the connection between number of babies and ICTs ;-)
But as a parting shot (and I hope am the last one to speak on this off-topic item) - the more babies the merrier. Look at the the top ten economies US, China, Japan, Korea, India, Brazil etc and you realize they are all "over-populated" from an economist point view. It means that perhaps that over-population is the source of development.
walu.
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From: bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 49, Issue 48 To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Wednesday, June 15, 2011, 6:40 PM
Ory, I have been giving these speeches on population management. Unless we stop at number 3, we shall have a serious crisis not only as a nation but as family in the form of distributed love. The fewer children one has the more chances of living longer and having genuine love to the siblings. Studies show that most mothers with very many children hadly remember the names of their children. In most cases they attempt to call one Jo.., Sa... Ma... but end up asking who is there. Hopefully, this explains:
http://www.google.com/publicdata/home
Regards
Ndemo.
Re radical ideas and kids.
Mzalendo grew and went live when I was pregnant with my first child, Ushahidi was born when I had a 10 month old and I quit my job to build the organization behind it when I had another on the way, expecting number 3 after recently joining Google and I'm sure I will continue to have new ideas there :-)
Ory
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I confirm my attendance.
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Listers, My mistake on the date of this event. Veneue is the same tomorrow the 15th of June and not the 16th.
Regards
Ndemo.
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confirmed, will attend Andrew
I would like to attend. ?Thanks
Suraj Shah Corporate Affairs Manager Intel
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Listers, The breakfast meeting on medical cloud services will be at the Serena on
On Tuesday, 14 June 2011, Suraj Shah <suraj@surajshah.co.ke<http://mc/compose?to=suraj@surajshah.co.ke>> wrote: the
16th morning starting at the 7am. ?The sponsor has graciously accepted to have at list 10 of you.
Please let us have confirmations on the list. ?They will respond to you directly. ?I will not involve myself with the details of this invite.
Ndemo.
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I must challenge you there Robert. What do rent and kids have to do with creativity, drive and passion? Jonathan Ive, the principal designer of the iMac, titanium and aluminum PowerBook G4, MacBook, unibody MacBook Pro, iPod, iPhone, and iPad has a wife and two kids. Twins. Doesn't seem to have slowed him down any.
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:26 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk<http://mc/compose?to=robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>
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Hi The first step is to have a passion for what you want to do, then
Mariga, Ronaldo and the rest of the ilk first played soccer for the fun and passion of the game the scouts, enforcements and money then followed. Regards PS. I was recently reminded that once you have rent to pay your ability to do anything new diminishes exponentially and once the kids come along forget about coming up with any radical, industry changing application or business concept. If the idea was not incubated when you where in high school or campus then join the large band of IT vendors as the other
identify a problem that needs solving and solve it all for the fun and passion of it not the money. train has left.
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 8:29 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk<http://mc/compose?to=robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
This will give you an insight into how we can go from being a talk
shop and baby cries and get down to doing some serious productive work.
Without fear I will repeat what I commented previously "money follows great ideas; period". I also like a comment from a Google employee, in one of the documentaries, "Google is an extension of college"
What's the first step?
-- With Regards,
Phares Kariuki
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I agree Murigi Overpopulation is not the problem. Excessive resource use is. Each american uses the resources of 7 africans. I have 3. but most of my american girlfriends have 0. so no worries. Yours, Rigia On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 6:24 PM, S.Murigi Muraya <murigi.muraya@gmail.com>wrote:
http://www.babycenter.com/0_family-size-in-america-are-large-families-back_1...
Families with 3-4 kids are not over populating Africa.. Note: Geographically we are 3X larger than China
http://www.scribd.com/doc/533024/African-Overpopulation
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Daktari, Ory & Rigia
I was hoping this thread would die on its own but now you have fueled it and I am forced to declare it off-topic to present further discussion since I am unable to see the connection between number of babies and ICTs ;-)
But as a parting shot (and I hope am the last one to speak on this off-topic item) - the more babies the merrier. Look at the the top ten economies US, China, Japan, Korea, India, Brazil etc and you realize they are all "over-populated" from an economist point view. It means that perhaps that over-population is the source of development.
walu.
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From: bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 49, Issue 48 To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Wednesday, June 15, 2011, 6:40 PM
Ory, I have been giving these speeches on population management. Unless we stop at number 3, we shall have a serious crisis not only as a nation but as family in the form of distributed love. The fewer children one has the more chances of living longer and having genuine love to the siblings. Studies show that most mothers with very many children hadly remember the names of their children. In most cases they attempt to call one Jo.., Sa... Ma... but end up asking who is there. Hopefully, this explains:
http://www.google.com/publicdata/home
Regards
Ndemo.
Re radical ideas and kids.
Mzalendo grew and went live when I was pregnant with my first child, Ushahidi was born when I had a 10 month old and I quit my job to build the organization behind it when I had another on the way, expecting number 3 after recently joining Google and I'm sure I will continue to have new ideas there :-)
Ory
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I confirm my attendance.
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Listers, My mistake on the date of this event. Veneue is the same tomorrow the 15th of June and not the 16th.
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confirmed, will attend Andrew
I would like to attend. ?Thanks
Suraj Shah Corporate Affairs Manager Intel
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Listers, The breakfast meeting on medical cloud services will be at the Serena on
On Tuesday, 14 June 2011, Suraj Shah <suraj@surajshah.co.ke<http://mc/compose?to=suraj@surajshah.co.ke>> wrote: the
16th morning starting at the 7am. ?The sponsor has graciously accepted to have at list 10 of you.
Please let us have confirmations on the list. ?They will respond to you directly. ?I will not involve myself with the details of this invite.
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I must challenge you there Robert. What do rent and kids have to do with creativity, drive and passion? Jonathan Ive, the principal designer of the iMac, titanium and aluminum PowerBook G4, MacBook, unibody MacBook Pro, iPod, iPhone, and iPad has a wife and two kids. Twins. Doesn't seem to have slowed him down any.
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:26 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk<http://mc/compose?to=robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
Hi The first step is to have a passion for what you want to do, then
Mariga, Ronaldo and the rest of the ilk first played soccer for the fun and passion of the game the scouts, enforcements and money then followed. Regards PS. I was recently reminded that once you have rent to pay your ability to do anything new diminishes exponentially and once the kids come along forget about coming up with any radical, industry changing application or business concept. If the idea was not incubated when you where in high school or campus then join the large band of IT vendors as the other
identify a problem that needs solving and solve it all for the fun and passion of it not the money. train has left.
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 8:29 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk<http://mc/compose?to=robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
This will give you an insight into how we can go from being a talk
shop and baby cries and get down to doing some serious productive work.
Without fear I will repeat what I commented previously "money follows great ideas; period". I also like a comment from a Google employee, in one of the documentaries, "Google is an extension of college"
What's the first step?
-- With Regards,
Phares Kariuki
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Alex, For your developers: http://www.egov.vic.gov.au/focus-on-countries/north-and-south-america-and-th... White House Honors Unsung Open Data App Developers By Andy Opsahl. Government Technology, June 15, 2011. "A motley group of 16 'open data geeks', several of humble beginnings, accepted surprise invitations to the White House for national recognition at the Champions of Change event on June 10. The gathering aimed to demonstrate the diverse potential of Web apps utilizing data sets made available by federal, state and local agencies. Developers who made the cut boasted apps that enabled users to find and organize pick-up games at public facilities, guided citizens through zoning ordinances, flagged parents to child-friendly locations, along with numerous other data-based services..." White House Honors Unsung Open Data App Developers June 15, 2011 Andy Opsahl Matt Williams Federal CTO Aneesh Chopra gives remarks at the Champions of Change event June 10, in Washington, D.C. Photo by Jay Premack A motley group of 16 “open data geeks,” several of humble beginnings, accepted surprise invitations to the White House for national recognition at the Champions of Change event on June 10. The gathering aimed to demonstrate the diverse potential of Web apps utilizing data sets made available by federal, state and local agencies. Developers who made the cut boasted apps that enabled users to find and organize pick-up games at public facilities, guided citizens through zoning ordinances, flagged parents to child-friendly locations, along with numerous other data-based services. The event held at the Eisenhower Executive Office Building featured top names in federal government IT, including national CTO Aneesh Chopra and national CIO Vivek Kundra. Chopra used the activity as a platform to promote the Obama administration’s ongoing push to make government data sets increasingly available and more usable through Data.gov. Before three of the developers gave their stories to a small auditorium of federal officials, Michael Strautmanis, deputy assistant to the president and senior adviser for strategic engagement, voiced his commitment to keeping the work of open data developers on Obama’s radar. “I am leading, through our outreach operations, a broad-based effort to highlight these Champions of Change — to highlight you and to make sure the people who work with me every day see what you’re doing, know what you’re doing, learn from you and hear from you,” Strautmanis said. The three developer testimonials were followed by a panel discussion with industry experts and prepared remarks from Kundra. He detailed several features of the recently announced next iteration of Data.gov, including more machine-readable data, a tool for creating exportable data visualizations, a single-click mechanism for agencies to publish data more easily and a long list of other upgrades. After the formal ceremony, White House staff whisked all 16 “Champions” up one floor to a meeting. The developers found themselves surrounded by historic art and furniture as they sat down to trade ideas with Chopra and other officials. Developer Aaron Royston of Sportaneous, the pick-up game app, said he was struck by the caliber of the officials in attendance. “They seemed genuinely interested in how we would collaborate with government to execute our plans,” Royston remarked. Developer Michael Riedyk of YouTown, a tool giving governments a prepackaged suite of apps for their open data, made a similar observation. “I found all of the people we met today — Vivek, Aneesh and all of these other officials — were very accessible,” Riedyk said. “They want to work with us, and they’re actually performing what they preach.” Champions of Change is a recurring White House program highlighting ordinary citizens doing extraordinary things in various aspects of American life. Nomination of the developers was a collaboration between Government Technology magazine and its partner, the Center for Digital Government. The August issue of Government Technology will take a closer look at how the developers might work with the administration, as well as release exclusive photos and video. Below is a complete list of the developers: Jill Seman Jill Seman created MomMaps, an app helping parents find child-friendly locations in several cities nationwide. Omar Haroun Aaron Royston These two developers created Sportaneous, an app enabling users to find and organize pick-up games at nearby public facilities. Michael Riedyk Riedyk created YouTown, a product that offers governments a suite of prepackaged apps for their open data. With YouTown, governments don’t have to bother with contests or in-house development. Daniel O’Neil O’Neil created Citypayments, a website aiming to make it easy to search vendors, contracts and payments posted by Chicago agencies. Randall Leeds Leeds is developing a platform for building “community-curated” directory apps called the ReDirectory. It aims to assist those providing services for low-income communities with an up-to-date referral resource. Leigh Budlong Budlong created Zonability, an app guiding citizens through the complicated zoning ordinances in the San Francisco Bay Area. David Emory Brian Ferris Emory and Ferris have been collaborating with the Tri-County Metropolitan Transportation District of Oregon (TriMet) to create an open source trip planner that combines multiple modes of transportation. TriMet expects the app to be serious competition for expensive proprietary apps. Waldo Jaquith Jaquith created Richmond Sunlight, a free Web-based app for tracking legislation in the Virginia General Assembly that provides video sessions, voting records of legislators, and an application programming interface for integration into other websites. Savita Farooqui Farooqui is president of SymSoft Solutions, a small Web development and integration firm that created California Cage Fight, a Web tool for visualizing side-by-side comparisons of municipalities based on open data. Dave Augustine Bob Burbach Andrew Carpenter As a federal open data contest entry, these three developers redesigned the Federal Register in a way that made the loads of documents easier to consume. Federal officials were so impressed they collaborated with the developers to officially redesign FederalRegister.gov. David Van Sickle David Van Sickle is the co-founder and CEO of Asthmapolis, a Madison, Wis.,-based company developing tools that enable asthma patients to track how often they use their medication. Van Sickle hopes public health agencies can use data collected by the tools to improve human health. Conor White-Sullivan White-Sullivan created Localocracy, a Web community designed to generate discussions of local issues. You may use or reference this story with attribution and a link to http://www.govtech.com/e-government/White-House-Honors-Unsung-Open-Data-App-...
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Paul Roy -
Phares Kariuki -
Rad! -
robert yawe -
S.Murigi Muraya -
Walubengo J -
warigia bowman