+ Aly, Walu, Dorcas for these observations, First off i appreciate that we are having such an encouraging conversation about the eCitizen government portal, for those who have had first hand experience on it. I think it is important to see that these comments will help improve the services and also express the fact that it is functional. I encourage that we continue to give our comments so that we can see the improved use of ICT's in government. Regards Gideon Rop DCA
Hi All,
Wanted to pass a thumbs up to the ICT Authority Team, i used the eCitizen portal to apply for a duplicate DL recently.
All worked out very well.
Thumbs up to the Pesapal team, that payment went very well!
NTSA customer service was great.
Times tower 3rd Floor team was bit slow, i forgive them as i got our old paper booklet DL version for the replacement.
I did not leave my desk to have these going which was even greater! My messenger collected the DL painlessly too.
Kudos to all behind the work. I guess Dr. Matiang'i, Victor, Dr. Getao, Harry, Mugambi and entire team.
-- Muthoni
My Blog: http://rugongo.blogspot.com/ -------------------------------------------- Mahatma Gandhi once said:-
First they ignore you, Then they laugh at you, Then they fight you, AND THEN YOU WIN!!!
It looks great and well designed. Two comments: 1. This site should really be https everywhere. I see that the form submits to an https site but how does one validate that ahead of time without looking at the source? 2. I know it's 'eCitizen' but it would be nice if this worked for legal residents as well. Most legal residents don't have an ID that works in that system unfortunately. Otherwise, great stuff! Cheers, Adam -- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Gideon via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
+ Aly, Walu, Dorcas for these observations,
First off i appreciate that we are having such an encouraging conversation about the eCitizen government portal, for those who have had first hand experience on it. I think it is important to see that these comments will help improve the services and also express the fact that it is functional.
I encourage that we continue to give our comments so that we can see the improved use of ICT's in government.
Regards Gideon Rop DCA
Hi All,
Wanted to pass a thumbs up to the ICT Authority Team, i used the eCitizen portal to apply for a duplicate DL recently.
All worked out very well.
Thumbs up to the Pesapal team, that payment went very well!
NTSA customer service was great.
Times tower 3rd Floor team was bit slow, i forgive them as i got our old paper booklet DL version for the replacement.
I did not leave my desk to have these going which was even greater! My messenger collected the DL painlessly too.
Kudos to all behind the work. I guess Dr. Matiang'i, Victor, Dr. Getao, Harry, Mugambi and entire team.
-- Muthoni
My Blog: http://rugongo.blogspot.com/ -------------------------------------------- Mahatma Gandhi once said:-
First they ignore you, Then they laugh at you, Then they fight you, AND THEN YOU WIN!!!
Adam Great points. I think if the designers were looking at (in my humble opinion) emulating the Estonia and Singapore case studies then they are on to a great start. I'm thinking also (not sure though as it might just be serendipity) that they are using an iterative process to develop this. One thing that definitely is a major UP is the use of local IP to develop the payment gateway! Great start Team Kenya Government! Regards Ali Hussein +254 770 906375 / 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad
On Nov 8, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Adam Nelson via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
It looks great and well designed. Two comments:
1. This site should really be https everywhere. I see that the form submits to an https site but how does one validate that ahead of time without looking at the source? 2. I know it's 'eCitizen' but it would be nice if this worked for legal residents as well. Most legal residents don't have an ID that works in that system unfortunately.
Otherwise, great stuff!
Cheers, Adam
-- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Gideon via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
+ Aly, Walu, Dorcas for these observations,
First off i appreciate that we are having such an encouraging conversation about the eCitizen government portal, for those who have had first hand experience on it. I think it is important to see that these comments will help improve the services and also express the fact that it is functional.
I encourage that we continue to give our comments so that we can see the improved use of ICT's in government.
Regards Gideon Rop DCA
Hi All,
Wanted to pass a thumbs up to the ICT Authority Team, i used the eCitizen portal to apply for a duplicate DL recently.
All worked out very well.
Thumbs up to the Pesapal team, that payment went very well!
NTSA customer service was great.
Times tower 3rd Floor team was bit slow, i forgive them as i got our old paper booklet DL version for the replacement.
I did not leave my desk to have these going which was even greater! My messenger collected the DL painlessly too.
Kudos to all behind the work. I guess Dr. Matiang'i, Victor, Dr. Getao, Harry, Mugambi and entire team.
-- Muthoni
My Blog: http://rugongo.blogspot.com/ -------------------------------------------- Mahatma Gandhi once said:-
First they ignore you, Then they laugh at you, Then they fight you, AND THEN YOU WIN!!!
It would also be nice to see it hosted in Kenya (or at least Europe): 18:27:44 ~ $ sudo mtr www.ecitizen.go.ke --report Start: Sat Nov 8 18:29:18 2014 HOST: adam-2.local Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev 1.|-- 192.168.1.1 0.0% 10 1.5 1.8 1.1 3.1 0.3 2.|-- 192.168.201.1 0.0% 10 2.9 8.7 2.8 53.9 15.9 3.|-- 41.57.108.5 0.0% 10 2.4 4.7 2.4 19.2 5.2 4.|-- 41.222.8.217 0.0% 10 157.7 19.9 2.2 157.7 48.6 5.|-- 195.229.27.57 60.0% 10 59.0 59.7 59.0 60.4 0.0 6.|-- 195.229.0.89 0.0% 10 64.2 70.2 60.8 104.0 12.6 7.|-- pos0-15-0-0.palermo17.pal 0.0% 10 147.0 148.7 142.3 172.5 8.6 8.|-- xe-2-3-0.milano51.mil.sea 50.0% 10 165.4 167.7 164.8 177.2 5.3 9.|-- ntt-verio.milano51.mil.se 30.0% 10 171.6 189.6 170.7 228.1 24.2 10.|-- ae-20.r03.amstnl02.nl.bb. 0.0% 10 276.3 276.9 275.7 281.1 1.4 11.|-- ae-4.r23.amstnl02.nl.bb.g 0.0% 10 184.7 188.6 182.8 204.7 6.2 12.|-- ae-7.r21.asbnva02.us.bb.g 40.0% 10 259.4 265.6 258.7 297.6 15.7 13.|-- ae-0.r20.asbnva02.us.bb.g 20.0% 10 264.3 262.6 260.3 266.1 2.1 14.|-- ae-8.r23.nycmny01.us.bb.g 20.0% 10 273.6 273.5 265.7 314.9 16.9 15.|-- ae-3.r20.chcgil09.us.bb.g 0.0% 10 279.2 283.6 278.9 302.5 7.7 16.|-- ae-1.r06.chcgil09.us.bb.g 10.0% 10 279.7 280.5 278.8 285.2 1.8 17.|-- ae-0.gtt-offnet.chcgil09. 10.0% 10 293.1 295.7 288.3 335.4 15.1 18.|-- ae4.cr1.ord6.us.scnet.net 11.1% 9 299.0 294.1 291.7 299.0 2.5 19.|-- ae3.ar7.ord6.us.scnet.net 22.2% 9 297.1 295.1 294.0 297.1 1.2 20.|-- server.perihelionwebdesig 11.1% 9 294.4 295.8 294.4 297.5 0.9 18:29:36 ~ $ -- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Adam
Great points. I think if the designers were looking at (in my humble opinion) emulating the Estonia and Singapore case studies then they are on to a great start. I'm thinking also (not sure though as it might just be serendipity) that they are using an iterative process to develop this.
One thing that definitely is a major UP is the use of local IP to develop the payment gateway!
Great start Team Kenya Government!
Regards
*Ali Hussein*
+254 770 906375 / 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
Blog: www.alyhussein.com
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
Sent from my iPad
On Nov 8, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Adam Nelson via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
It looks great and well designed. Two comments:
1. This site should really be https everywhere. I see that the form submits to an https site but how does one validate that ahead of time without looking at the source? 2. I know it's 'eCitizen' but it would be nice if this worked for legal residents as well. Most legal residents don't have an ID that works in that system unfortunately.
Otherwise, great stuff!
Cheers, Adam
-- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Gideon via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
+ Aly, Walu, Dorcas for these observations,
First off i appreciate that we are having such an encouraging conversation about the eCitizen government portal, for those who have had first hand experience on it. I think it is important to see that these comments will help improve the services and also express the fact that it is functional.
I encourage that we continue to give our comments so that we can see the improved use of ICT's in government.
Regards Gideon Rop DCA
Hi All,
Wanted to pass a thumbs up to the ICT Authority Team, i used the eCitizen portal to apply for a duplicate DL recently.
All worked out very well.
Thumbs up to the Pesapal team, that payment went very well!
NTSA customer service was great.
Times tower 3rd Floor team was bit slow, i forgive them as i got our old paper booklet DL version for the replacement.
I did not leave my desk to have these going which was even greater! My messenger collected the DL painlessly too.
Kudos to all behind the work. I guess Dr. Matiang'i, Victor, Dr. Getao, Harry, Mugambi and entire team.
-- Muthoni
My Blog: http://rugongo.blogspot.com/ -------------------------------------------- Mahatma Gandhi once said:-
First they ignore you, Then they laugh at you, Then they fight you, AND THEN YOU WIN!!!
What (kind of riot) would happen in the US Senate and Congress if the USG ignored local firms/talent to host such sensitive state data outside the US? Regards Murigi / Stanley Muraya *"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32* On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Adam Nelson via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
It would also be nice to see it hosted in Kenya (or at least Europe):
18:27:44 ~ $ sudo mtr www.ecitizen.go.ke --report Start: Sat Nov 8 18:29:18 2014 HOST: adam-2.local Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev 1.|-- 192.168.1.1 0.0% 10 1.5 1.8 1.1 3.1 0.3 2.|-- 192.168.201.1 0.0% 10 2.9 8.7 2.8 53.9 15.9 3.|-- 41.57.108.5 0.0% 10 2.4 4.7 2.4 19.2 5.2 4.|-- 41.222.8.217 0.0% 10 157.7 19.9 2.2 157.7 48.6 5.|-- 195.229.27.57 60.0% 10 59.0 59.7 59.0 60.4 0.0 6.|-- 195.229.0.89 0.0% 10 64.2 70.2 60.8 104.0 12.6 7.|-- pos0-15-0-0.palermo17.pal 0.0% 10 147.0 148.7 142.3 172.5 8.6 8.|-- xe-2-3-0.milano51.mil.sea 50.0% 10 165.4 167.7 164.8 177.2 5.3 9.|-- ntt-verio.milano51.mil.se 30.0% 10 171.6 189.6 170.7 228.1 24.2 10.|-- ae-20.r03.amstnl02.nl.bb. 0.0% 10 276.3 276.9 275.7 281.1 1.4 11.|-- ae-4.r23.amstnl02.nl.bb.g 0.0% 10 184.7 188.6 182.8 204.7 6.2 12.|-- ae-7.r21.asbnva02.us.bb.g 40.0% 10 259.4 265.6 258.7 297.6 15.7 13.|-- ae-0.r20.asbnva02.us.bb.g 20.0% 10 264.3 262.6 260.3 266.1 2.1 14.|-- ae-8.r23.nycmny01.us.bb.g 20.0% 10 273.6 273.5 265.7 314.9 16.9 15.|-- ae-3.r20.chcgil09.us.bb.g 0.0% 10 279.2 283.6 278.9 302.5 7.7 16.|-- ae-1.r06.chcgil09.us.bb.g 10.0% 10 279.7 280.5 278.8 285.2 1.8 17.|-- ae-0.gtt-offnet.chcgil09. 10.0% 10 293.1 295.7 288.3 335.4 15.1 18.|-- ae4.cr1.ord6.us.scnet.net 11.1% 9 299.0 294.1 291.7 299.0 2.5 19.|-- ae3.ar7.ord6.us.scnet.net 22.2% 9 297.1 295.1 294.0 297.1 1.2 20.|-- server.perihelionwebdesig 11.1% 9 294.4 295.8 294.4 297.5 0.9 18:29:36 ~ $
-- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Adam
Great points. I think if the designers were looking at (in my humble opinion) emulating the Estonia and Singapore case studies then they are on to a great start. I'm thinking also (not sure though as it might just be serendipity) that they are using an iterative process to develop this.
One thing that definitely is a major UP is the use of local IP to develop the payment gateway!
Great start Team Kenya Government!
Regards
*Ali Hussein*
+254 770 906375 / 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
Blog: www.alyhussein.com
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
Sent from my iPad
On Nov 8, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Adam Nelson via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
It looks great and well designed. Two comments:
1. This site should really be https everywhere. I see that the form submits to an https site but how does one validate that ahead of time without looking at the source? 2. I know it's 'eCitizen' but it would be nice if this worked for legal residents as well. Most legal residents don't have an ID that works in that system unfortunately.
Otherwise, great stuff!
Cheers, Adam
-- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Gideon via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
+ Aly, Walu, Dorcas for these observations,
First off i appreciate that we are having such an encouraging conversation about the eCitizen government portal, for those who have had first hand experience on it. I think it is important to see that these comments will help improve the services and also express the fact that it is functional.
I encourage that we continue to give our comments so that we can see the improved use of ICT's in government.
Regards Gideon Rop DCA
Hi All,
Wanted to pass a thumbs up to the ICT Authority Team, i used the eCitizen portal to apply for a duplicate DL recently.
All worked out very well.
Thumbs up to the Pesapal team, that payment went very well!
NTSA customer service was great.
Times tower 3rd Floor team was bit slow, i forgive them as i got our old paper booklet DL version for the replacement.
I did not leave my desk to have these going which was even greater! My messenger collected the DL painlessly too.
Kudos to all behind the work. I guess Dr. Matiang'i, Victor, Dr. Getao, Harry, Mugambi and entire team.
-- Muthoni
My Blog: http://rugongo.blogspot.com/ -------------------------------------------- Mahatma Gandhi once said:-
First they ignore you, Then they laugh at you, Then they fight you, AND THEN YOU WIN!!!
I knew somewhere along the way, @Adam or @Murigi will spoil the party/glory @ICT Authority :-) walu. -------------------------------------------- On Sun, 11/9/14, S.M. Muraya via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Subject: Re: [kictanet] eCitizen Working Well To: jwalu@yahoo.com Date: Sunday, November 9, 2014, 8:53 PM What (kind of riot) would happen in the US Senate and Congress if the USG ignored local firms/talent to host such sensitive state data outside the US? Regards Murigi / Stanley Muraya "Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32 On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Adam Nelson via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: It would also be nice to see it hosted in Kenya (or at least Europe): 18:27:44 ~ $ sudo mtr www.ecitizen.go.ke --reportStart: Sat Nov 8 18:29:18 2014HOST: adam-2.local Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev 1.|-- 192.168.1.1 0.0% 10 1.5 1.8 1.1 3.1 0.3 2.|-- 192.168.201.1 0.0% 10 2.9 8.7 2.8 53.9 15.9 3.|-- 41.57.108.5 0.0% 10 2.4 4.7 2.4 19.2 5.2 4.|-- 41.222.8.217 0.0% 10 157.7 19.9 2.2 157.7 48.6 5.|-- 195.229.27.57 60.0% 10 59.0 59.7 59.0 60.4 0.0 6.|-- 195.229.0.89 0.0% 10 64.2 70.2 60.8 104.0 12.6 7.|-- pos0-15-0-0.palermo17.pal 0.0% 10 147.0 148.7 142.3 172.5 8.6 8.|-- xe-2-3-0.milano51.mil.sea 50.0% 10 165.4 167.7 164.8 177.2 5.3 9.|-- ntt-verio.milano51.mil.se 30.0% 10 171.6 189.6 170.7 228.1 24.2 10.|-- ae-20.r03.amstnl02.nl.bb. 0.0% 10 276.3 276.9 275.7 281.1 1.4 11.|-- ae-4.r23.amstnl02.nl.bb.g 0.0% 10 184.7 188.6 182.8 204.7 6.2 12.|-- ae-7.r21.asbnva02.us.bb.g 40.0% 10 259.4 265.6 258.7 297.6 15.7 13.|-- ae-0.r20.asbnva02.us.bb.g 20.0% 10 264.3 262.6 260.3 266.1 2.1 14.|-- ae-8.r23.nycmny01.us.bb.g 20.0% 10 273.6 273.5 265.7 314.9 16.9 15.|-- ae-3.r20.chcgil09.us.bb.g 0.0% 10 279.2 283.6 278.9 302.5 7.7 16.|-- ae-1.r06.chcgil09.us.bb.g 10.0% 10 279.7 280.5 278.8 285.2 1.8 17.|-- ae-0.gtt-offnet.chcgil09. 10.0% 10 293.1 295.7 288.3 335.4 15.1 18.|-- ae4.cr1.ord6.us.scnet.net 11.1% 9 299.0 294.1 291.7 299.0 2.5 19.|-- ae3.ar7.ord6.us.scnet.net 22.2% 9 297.1 295.1 294.0 297.1 1.2 20.|-- server.perihelionwebdesig 11.1% 9 294.4 295.8 294.4 297.5 0.918:29:36 ~ $ --Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varudMore Musings: varud.comAbout Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote: Adam Great points. I think if the designers were looking at (in my humble opinion) emulating the Estonia and Singapore case studies then they are on to a great start. I'm thinking also (not sure though as it might just be serendipity) that they are using an iterative process to develop this. One thing that definitely is a major UP is the use of local IP to develop the payment gateway! Great start Team Kenya Government! Regards Ali Hussein +254 770 906375 / 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassimSkype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassimBlog: www.alyhussein.com "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad On Nov 8, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Adam Nelson via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: It looks great and well designed. Two comments: 1. This site should really be https everywhere. I see that the form submits to an https site but how does one validate that ahead of time without looking at the source?2. I know it's 'eCitizen' but it would be nice if this worked for legal residents as well. Most legal residents don't have an ID that works in that system unfortunately. Otherwise, great stuff! Cheers,Adam --Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varudMore Musings: varud.comAbout Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Gideon via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: + Aly, Walu, Dorcas for these observations, First off i appreciate that we are having such an encouraging conversation about the eCitizen government portal, for those who have had first hand experience on it. I think it is important to see that these comments will help improve the services and also express the fact that it is functional. I encourage that we continue to give our comments so that we can see the improved use of ICT's in government. Regards Gideon Rop DCA Hi All, Wanted to pass a thumbs up to the ICT Authority Team, i used the eCitizen portal to apply for a duplicate DL recently. All worked out very well. Thumbs up to the Pesapal team, that payment went very well! NTSA customer service was great. Times tower 3rd Floor team was bit slow, i forgive them as i got our old paper booklet DL version for the replacement. I did not leave my desk to have these going which was even greater! My messenger collected the DL painlessly too. Kudos to all behind the work. I guess Dr. Matiang'i, Victor, Dr. Getao, Harry, Mugambi and entire team. -- Muthoni My Blog: http://rugongo.blogspot.com/ -------------------------------------------- Mahatma Gandhi once said:- First they ignore you, Then they laugh at you, Then they fight you, AND THEN YOU WIN!!!
:-) There's always room for improvement. It sounds like the open issues right now are: 1. Use https everywhere 2. Consider the location of the data for regulatory and performance reasons. 3. Open this up to non-citizen residents (although we're about 1% of the population, we probably generate a disproportionate amount of paperwork for the government). -- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Walubengo J via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
I knew somewhere along the way, @Adam or @Murigi will spoil the party/glory @ICT Authority :-)
walu. -------------------------------------------- On Sun, 11/9/14, S.M. Muraya via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Subject: Re: [kictanet] eCitizen Working Well To: jwalu@yahoo.com Date: Sunday, November 9, 2014, 8:53 PM
What (kind of riot) would happen in the US Senate and Congress if the USG ignored local firms/talent to host such sensitive state data outside the US? Regards Murigi / Stanley Muraya "Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Adam Nelson via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: It would also be nice to see it hosted in Kenya (or at least Europe): 18:27:44 ~ $ sudo mtr www.ecitizen.go.ke --reportStart: Sat Nov 8 18:29:18 2014HOST: adam-2.local Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev 1.|-- 192.168.1.1 0.0% 10 1.5 1.8 1.1 3.1 0.3 2.|-- 192.168.201.1 0.0% 10 2.9 8.7 2.8 53.9 15.9 3.|-- 41.57.108.5 0.0% 10 2.4 4.7 2.4 19.2 5.2 4.|-- 41.222.8.217 0.0% 10 157.7 19.9 2.2 157.7 48.6 5.|-- 195.229.27.57 60.0% 10 59.0 59.7 59.0 60.4 0.0 6.|-- 195.229.0.89 0.0% 10 64.2 70.2 60.8 104.0 12.6 7.|-- pos0-15-0-0.palermo17.pal 0.0% 10 147.0 148.7 142.3 172.5 8.6 8.|-- xe-2-3-0.milano51.mil.sea 50.0% 10 165.4 167.7 164.8 177.2 5.3 9.|-- ntt-verio.milano51.mil.se 30.0% 10 171.6 189.6 170.7 228.1 24.2 10.|-- ae-20.r03.amstnl02.nl.bb. 0.0% 10 276.3 276.9 275.7 281.1 1.4 11.|-- ae-4.r23.amstnl02.nl.bb.g 0.0% 10 184.7 188.6 182.8 204.7 6.2 12.|-- ae-7.r21.asbnva02.us.bb.g 40.0% 10 259.4 265.6 258.7 297.6 15.7 13.|-- ae-0.r20.asbnva02.us.bb.g 20.0% 10 264.3 262.6 260.3 266.1 2.1 14.|-- ae-8.r23.nycmny01.us.bb.g 20.0% 10 273.6 273.5 265.7 314.9 16.9 15.|-- ae-3.r20.chcgil09.us.bb.g 0.0% 10 279.2 283.6 278.9 302.5 7.7 16.|-- ae-1.r06.chcgil09.us.bb.g 10.0% 10 279.7 280.5 278.8 285.2 1.8 17.|-- ae-0.gtt-offnet.chcgil09. 10.0% 10 293.1 295.7 288.3 335.4 15.1 18.|-- ae4.cr1.ord6.us.scnet.net 11.1% 9 299.0 294.1 291.7 299.0 2.5 19.|-- ae3.ar7.ord6.us.scnet.net 22.2% 9 297.1 295.1 294.0 297.1 1.2 20.|-- server.perihelionwebdesig 11.1% 9 294.4 295.8 294.4 297.5 0.918:29:36 ~ $ --Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varudMore Musings: varud.comAbout Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote: Adam Great points. I think if the designers were looking at (in my humble opinion) emulating the Estonia and Singapore case studies then they are on to a great start. I'm thinking also (not sure though as it might just be serendipity) that they are using an iterative process to develop this. One thing that definitely is a major UP is the use of local IP to develop the payment gateway! Great start Team Kenya Government! Regards
Ali Hussein +254 770 906375 / 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassimSkype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassimBlog: www.alyhussein.com
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad On Nov 8, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Adam Nelson via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
It looks great and well designed. Two comments: 1. This site should really be https everywhere. I see that the form submits to an https site but how does one validate that ahead of time without looking at the source?2. I know it's 'eCitizen' but it would be nice if this worked for legal residents as well. Most legal residents don't have an ID that works in that system unfortunately. Otherwise, great stuff! Cheers,Adam --Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varudMore Musings: varud.comAbout Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Gideon via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
+ Aly, Walu, Dorcas for these observations,
First off i appreciate that we are having such an encouraging conversation about the eCitizen government portal, for those who have had first hand experience on it. I think it is important to see that these comments will help improve the services and also express the fact that it is functional.
I encourage that we continue to give our comments so that we can see the improved use of ICT's in government.
Regards Gideon Rop DCA
Hi All,
Wanted to pass a thumbs up to the ICT Authority Team, i used the eCitizen
portal to apply for a duplicate DL recently.
All worked out very well.
Thumbs up to the Pesapal team, that payment went very well!
NTSA customer service was great.
Times tower 3rd Floor team was bit slow, i forgive them as i got our old
paper booklet DL version for the replacement.
I did not leave my desk to have these going which was even greater! My
messenger collected the DL painlessly too.
Kudos to all behind the work. I guess Dr. Matiang'i, Victor, Dr. Getao,
Harry, Mugambi and entire team.
--
Muthoni
My Blog: http://rugongo.blogspot.com/
--------------------------------------------
Mahatma Gandhi once said:-
First they ignore you,
Then they laugh at you,
Then they fight you,
AND THEN YOU WIN!!!
@walu registered on the portal a few weeks ago, and I like the progress being made. We need legal support (law enforcement) for industrial reform so local IT firms are no longer mistrusted. Just heard from someone in an IT firm struggling with a 20% kickback (Bank IT insiders are demanding). The less we get paid, the less we can pay for skill/talent. The CID should help us clean up our industry. Regards Murigi / Stanley Muraya *"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32* On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
I knew somewhere along the way, @Adam or @Murigi will spoil the party/glory @ICT Authority :-)
walu. -------------------------------------------- On Sun, 11/9/14, S.M. Muraya via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Subject: Re: [kictanet] eCitizen Working Well To: jwalu@yahoo.com Date: Sunday, November 9, 2014, 8:53 PM
What (kind of riot) would happen in the US Senate and Congress if the USG ignored local firms/talent to host such sensitive state data outside the US? Regards Murigi / Stanley Muraya "Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Adam Nelson via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: It would also be nice to see it hosted in Kenya (or at least Europe): 18:27:44 ~ $ sudo mtr www.ecitizen.go.ke --reportStart: Sat Nov 8 18:29:18 2014HOST: adam-2.local Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev 1.|-- 192.168.1.1 0.0% 10 1.5 1.8 1.1 3.1 0.3 2.|-- 192.168.201.1 0.0% 10 2.9 8.7 2.8 53.9 15.9 3.|-- 41.57.108.5 0.0% 10 2.4 4.7 2.4 19.2 5.2 4.|-- 41.222.8.217 0.0% 10 157.7 19.9 2.2 157.7 48.6 5.|-- 195.229.27.57 60.0% 10 59.0 59.7 59.0 60.4 0.0 6.|-- 195.229.0.89 0.0% 10 64.2 70.2 60.8 104.0 12.6 7.|-- pos0-15-0-0.palermo17.pal 0.0% 10 147.0 148.7 142.3 172.5 8.6 8.|-- xe-2-3-0.milano51.mil.sea 50.0% 10 165.4 167.7 164.8 177.2 5.3 9.|-- ntt-verio.milano51.mil.se 30.0% 10 171.6 189.6 170.7 228.1 24.2 10.|-- ae-20.r03.amstnl02.nl.bb. 0.0% 10 276.3 276.9 275.7 281.1 1.4 11.|-- ae-4.r23.amstnl02.nl.bb.g 0.0% 10 184.7 188.6 182.8 204.7 6.2 12.|-- ae-7.r21.asbnva02.us.bb.g 40.0% 10 259.4 265.6 258.7 297.6 15.7 13.|-- ae-0.r20.asbnva02.us.bb.g 20.0% 10 264.3 262.6 260.3 266.1 2.1 14.|-- ae-8.r23.nycmny01.us.bb.g 20.0% 10 273.6 273.5 265.7 314.9 16.9 15.|-- ae-3.r20.chcgil09.us.bb.g 0.0% 10 279.2 283.6 278.9 302.5 7.7 16.|-- ae-1.r06.chcgil09.us.bb.g 10.0% 10 279.7 280.5 278.8 285.2 1.8 17.|-- ae-0.gtt-offnet.chcgil09. 10.0% 10 293.1 295.7 288.3 335.4 15.1 18.|-- ae4.cr1.ord6.us.scnet.net 11.1% 9 299.0 294.1 291.7 299.0 2.5 19.|-- ae3.ar7.ord6.us.scnet.net 22.2% 9 297.1 295.1 294.0 297.1 1.2 20.|-- server.perihelionwebdesig 11.1% 9 294.4 295.8 294.4 297.5 0.918:29:36 ~ $ --Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varudMore Musings: varud.comAbout Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote: Adam Great points. I think if the designers were looking at (in my humble opinion) emulating the Estonia and Singapore case studies then they are on to a great start. I'm thinking also (not sure though as it might just be serendipity) that they are using an iterative process to develop this. One thing that definitely is a major UP is the use of local IP to develop the payment gateway! Great start Team Kenya Government! Regards
Ali Hussein +254 770 906375 / 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassimSkype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassimBlog: www.alyhussein.com
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad On Nov 8, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Adam Nelson via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
It looks great and well designed. Two comments: 1. This site should really be https everywhere. I see that the form submits to an https site but how does one validate that ahead of time without looking at the source?2. I know it's 'eCitizen' but it would be nice if this worked for legal residents as well. Most legal residents don't have an ID that works in that system unfortunately. Otherwise, great stuff! Cheers,Adam --Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varudMore Musings: varud.comAbout Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Gideon via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
+ Aly, Walu, Dorcas for these observations,
First off i appreciate that we are having such an encouraging conversation about the eCitizen government portal, for those who have had first hand experience on it. I think it is important to see that these comments will help improve the services and also express the fact that it is functional.
I encourage that we continue to give our comments so that we can see the improved use of ICT's in government.
Regards Gideon Rop DCA
Hi All,
Wanted to pass a thumbs up to the ICT Authority Team, i used the eCitizen
portal to apply for a duplicate DL recently.
All worked out very well.
Thumbs up to the Pesapal team, that payment went very well!
NTSA customer service was great.
Times tower 3rd Floor team was bit slow, i forgive them as i got our old
paper booklet DL version for the replacement.
I did not leave my desk to have these going which was even greater! My
messenger collected the DL painlessly too.
Kudos to all behind the work. I guess Dr. Matiang'i, Victor, Dr. Getao,
Harry, Mugambi and entire team.
--
Muthoni
My Blog: http://rugongo.blogspot.com/
--------------------------------------------
Mahatma Gandhi once said:-
First they ignore you,
Then they laugh at you,
Then they fight you,
AND THEN YOU WIN!!!
The CID and law enforcement can only help if people report such incidences, and stop giving the 20% cut. Victor Victor Kapiyo ==================================================== *"Your attitude, not your aptitude, will determine your altitude" Zig Ziglar* On 10 November 2014 15:00, S.M. Muraya via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@walu registered on the portal a few weeks ago, and I like the progress being made.
We need legal support (law enforcement) for industrial reform so local IT firms are no longer mistrusted.
Just heard from someone in an IT firm struggling with a 20% kickback (Bank IT insiders are demanding).
The less we get paid, the less we can pay for skill/talent. The CID should help us clean up our industry.
Regards
Murigi / Stanley Muraya
*"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32*
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
I knew somewhere along the way, @Adam or @Murigi will spoil the party/glory @ICT Authority :-)
walu. -------------------------------------------- On Sun, 11/9/14, S.M. Muraya via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Subject: Re: [kictanet] eCitizen Working Well To: jwalu@yahoo.com Date: Sunday, November 9, 2014, 8:53 PM
What (kind of riot) would happen in the US Senate and Congress if the USG ignored local firms/talent to host such sensitive state data outside the US? Regards Murigi / Stanley Muraya "Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Adam Nelson via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: It would also be nice to see it hosted in Kenya (or at least Europe): 18:27:44 ~ $ sudo mtr www.ecitizen.go.ke --reportStart: Sat Nov 8 18:29:18 2014HOST: adam-2.local Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev 1.|-- 192.168.1.1 0.0% 10 1.5 1.8 1.1 3.1 0.3 2.|-- 192.168.201.1 0.0% 10 2.9 8.7 2.8 53.9 15.9 3.|-- 41.57.108.5 0.0% 10 2.4 4.7 2.4 19.2 5.2 4.|-- 41.222.8.217 0.0% 10 157.7 19.9 2.2 157.7 48.6 5.|-- 195.229.27.57 60.0% 10 59.0 59.7 59.0 60.4 0.0 6.|-- 195.229.0.89 0.0% 10 64.2 70.2 60.8 104.0 12.6 7.|-- pos0-15-0-0.palermo17.pal 0.0% 10 147.0 148.7 142.3 172.5 8.6 8.|-- xe-2-3-0.milano51.mil.sea 50.0% 10 165.4 167.7 164.8 177.2 5.3 9.|-- ntt-verio.milano51.mil.se 30.0% 10 171.6 189.6 170.7 228.1 24.2 10.|-- ae-20.r03.amstnl02.nl.bb. 0.0% 10 276.3 276.9 275.7 281.1 1.4 11.|-- ae-4.r23.amstnl02.nl.bb.g 0.0% 10 184.7 188.6 182.8 204.7 6.2 12.|-- ae-7.r21.asbnva02.us.bb.g 40.0% 10 259.4 265.6 258.7 297.6 15.7 13.|-- ae-0.r20.asbnva02.us.bb.g 20.0% 10 264.3 262.6 260.3 266.1 2.1 14.|-- ae-8.r23.nycmny01.us.bb.g 20.0% 10 273.6 273.5 265.7 314.9 16.9 15.|-- ae-3.r20.chcgil09.us.bb.g 0.0% 10 279.2 283.6 278.9 302.5 7.7 16.|-- ae-1.r06.chcgil09.us.bb.g 10.0% 10 279.7 280.5 278.8 285.2 1.8 17.|-- ae-0.gtt-offnet.chcgil09. 10.0% 10 293.1 295.7 288.3 335.4 15.1 18.|-- ae4.cr1.ord6.us.scnet.net 11.1% 9 299.0 294.1 291.7 299.0 2.5 19.|-- ae3.ar7.ord6.us.scnet.net 22.2% 9 297.1 295.1 294.0 297.1 1.2 20.|-- server.perihelionwebdesig 11.1% 9 294.4 295.8 294.4 297.5 0.918:29:36 ~ $ --Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varudMore Musings: varud.comAbout Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote: Adam Great points. I think if the designers were looking at (in my humble opinion) emulating the Estonia and Singapore case studies then they are on to a great start. I'm thinking also (not sure though as it might just be serendipity) that they are using an iterative process to develop this. One thing that definitely is a major UP is the use of local IP to develop the payment gateway! Great start Team Kenya Government! Regards
Ali Hussein +254 770 906375 / 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassimSkype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassimBlog: www.alyhussein.com
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad On Nov 8, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Adam Nelson via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
It looks great and well designed. Two comments: 1. This site should really be https everywhere. I see that the form submits to an https site but how does one validate that ahead of time without looking at the source?2. I know it's 'eCitizen' but it would be nice if this worked for legal residents as well. Most legal residents don't have an ID that works in that system unfortunately. Otherwise, great stuff! Cheers,Adam --Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varudMore Musings: varud.comAbout Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Gideon via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
+ Aly, Walu, Dorcas for these observations,
First off i appreciate that we are having such an encouraging conversation about the eCitizen government portal, for those who have had first hand experience on it. I think it is important to see that these comments will help improve the services and also express the fact that it is functional.
I encourage that we continue to give our comments so that we can see the improved use of ICT's in government.
Regards Gideon Rop DCA
Hi All,
Wanted to pass a thumbs up to the ICT Authority Team, i used the eCitizen
portal to apply for a duplicate DL recently.
All worked out very well.
Thumbs up to the Pesapal team, that payment went very well!
NTSA customer service was great.
Times tower 3rd Floor team was bit slow, i forgive them as i got our old
paper booklet DL version for the replacement.
I did not leave my desk to have these going which was even greater! My
messenger collected the DL painlessly too.
Kudos to all behind the work. I guess Dr. Matiang'i, Victor, Dr. Getao,
Harry, Mugambi and entire team.
--
Muthoni
My Blog: http://rugongo.blogspot.com/
--------------------------------------------
Mahatma Gandhi once said:-
First they ignore you,
Then they laugh at you,
Then they fight you,
AND THEN YOU WIN!!!
Victor, More often than not, openly reporting fraud is not (commercially or professionally) practical. You will make enemies in the organization (meaning no more business or promotions from those who remain). Recently, a public official told me how his colleagues penalized a firm which exposed fraud in their department. Using a loophole in procurement law/regulations, the IT firm was just locked out of the re-tendering process. The public officer concurred, the penalized IT firm was correct about the fraud (scheme) it exposed. Employees who openly expose their colleagues involved in fraud are also likely to be penalized. As such, the CID should not wait for incidents to be openly reported before initiating investigations. Anonymous tips can be very valuable :) Regards Murigi / Stanley Muraya *"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32* On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 8:12 PM, Victor Kapiyo <vkapiyo@gmail.com> wrote:
The CID and law enforcement can only help if people report such incidences, and stop giving the 20% cut.
Victor
Victor Kapiyo
==================================================== *“Your attitude, not your aptitude, will determine your altitude” Zig Ziglar*
On 10 November 2014 15:00, S.M. Muraya via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@walu registered on the portal a few weeks ago, and I like the progress being made.
We need legal support (law enforcement) for industrial reform so local IT firms are no longer mistrusted.
Just heard from someone in an IT firm struggling with a 20% kickback (Bank IT insiders are demanding).
The less we get paid, the less we can pay for skill/talent. The CID should help us clean up our industry.
Regards
Murigi / Stanley Muraya
*"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32*
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
I knew somewhere along the way, @Adam or @Murigi will spoil the party/glory @ICT Authority :-)
walu. -------------------------------------------- On Sun, 11/9/14, S.M. Muraya via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Subject: Re: [kictanet] eCitizen Working Well To: jwalu@yahoo.com Date: Sunday, November 9, 2014, 8:53 PM
What (kind of riot) would happen in the US Senate and Congress if the USG ignored local firms/talent to host such sensitive state data outside the US? Regards Murigi / Stanley Muraya "Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Adam Nelson via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: It would also be nice to see it hosted in Kenya (or at least Europe): 18:27:44 ~ $ sudo mtr www.ecitizen.go.ke --reportStart: Sat Nov 8 18:29:18 2014HOST: adam-2.local Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev 1.|-- 192.168.1.1 0.0% 10 1.5 1.8 1.1 3.1 0.3 2.|-- 192.168.201.1 0.0% 10 2.9 8.7 2.8 53.9 15.9 3.|-- 41.57.108.5 0.0% 10 2.4 4.7 2.4 19.2 5.2 4.|-- 41.222.8.217 0.0% 10 157.7 19.9 2.2 157.7 48.6 5.|-- 195.229.27.57 60.0% 10 59.0 59.7 59.0 60.4 0.0 6.|-- 195.229.0.89 0.0% 10 64.2 70.2 60.8 104.0 12.6 7.|-- pos0-15-0-0.palermo17.pal 0.0% 10 147.0 148.7 142.3 172.5 8.6 8.|-- xe-2-3-0.milano51.mil.sea 50.0% 10 165.4 167.7 164.8 177.2 5.3 9.|-- ntt-verio.milano51.mil.se 30.0% 10 171.6 189.6 170.7 228.1 24.2 10.|-- ae-20.r03.amstnl02.nl.bb. 0.0% 10 276.3 276.9 275.7 281.1 1.4 11.|-- ae-4.r23.amstnl02.nl.bb.g 0.0% 10 184.7 188.6 182.8 204.7 6.2 12.|-- ae-7.r21.asbnva02.us.bb.g 40.0% 10 259.4 265.6 258.7 297.6 15.7 13.|-- ae-0.r20.asbnva02.us.bb.g 20.0% 10 264.3 262.6 260.3 266.1 2.1 14.|-- ae-8.r23.nycmny01.us.bb.g 20.0% 10 273.6 273.5 265.7 314.9 16.9 15.|-- ae-3.r20.chcgil09.us.bb.g 0.0% 10 279.2 283.6 278.9 302.5 7.7 16.|-- ae-1.r06.chcgil09.us.bb.g 10.0% 10 279.7 280.5 278.8 285.2 1.8 17.|-- ae-0.gtt-offnet.chcgil09. 10.0% 10 293.1 295.7 288.3 335.4 15.1 18.|-- ae4.cr1.ord6.us.scnet.net 11.1% 9 299.0 294.1 291.7 299.0 2.5 19.|-- ae3.ar7.ord6.us.scnet.net 22.2% 9 297.1 295.1 294.0 297.1 1.2 20.|-- server.perihelionwebdesig 11.1% 9 294.4 295.8 294.4 297.5 0.918:29:36 ~ $ --Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varudMore Musings: varud.comAbout Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote: Adam Great points. I think if the designers were looking at (in my humble opinion) emulating the Estonia and Singapore case studies then they are on to a great start. I'm thinking also (not sure though as it might just be serendipity) that they are using an iterative process to develop this. One thing that definitely is a major UP is the use of local IP to develop the payment gateway! Great start Team Kenya Government! Regards
Ali Hussein +254 770 906375 / 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassimSkype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassimBlog: www.alyhussein.com
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad On Nov 8, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Adam Nelson via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
It looks great and well designed. Two comments: 1. This site should really be https everywhere. I see that the form submits to an https site but how does one validate that ahead of time without looking at the source?2. I know it's 'eCitizen' but it would be nice if this worked for legal residents as well. Most legal residents don't have an ID that works in that system unfortunately. Otherwise, great stuff! Cheers,Adam --Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varudMore Musings: varud.comAbout Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Gideon via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
+ Aly, Walu, Dorcas for these observations,
First off i appreciate that we are having such an encouraging conversation about the eCitizen government portal, for those who have had first hand experience on it. I think it is important to see that these comments will help improve the services and also express the fact that it is functional.
I encourage that we continue to give our comments so that we can see the improved use of ICT's in government.
Regards Gideon Rop DCA
Hi All,
Wanted to pass a thumbs up to the ICT Authority Team, i used the eCitizen
portal to apply for a duplicate DL recently.
All worked out very well.
Thumbs up to the Pesapal team, that payment went very well!
NTSA customer service was great.
Times tower 3rd Floor team was bit slow, i forgive them as i got our old
paper booklet DL version for the replacement.
I did not leave my desk to have these going which was even greater! My
messenger collected the DL painlessly too.
Kudos to all behind the work. I guess Dr. Matiang'i, Victor, Dr. Getao,
Harry, Mugambi and entire team.
--
Muthoni
My Blog: http://rugongo.blogspot.com/
--------------------------------------------
Mahatma Gandhi once said:-
First they ignore you,
Then they laugh at you,
Then they fight you,
AND THEN YOU WIN!!!
Murigi, South Africa used to have a crack multidisciplinary unit called the Directorate for Special Operations but more commonly known as the Scorpions which consisted of the country's best prosecutors, police, financial, forensic and intelligence experts These guys were very effective in investigating and prosecuting organised crime and corruption (including cyber crime) and actually handled (succesfully) very many cases with an average conviction rate of 93.1% Unfortunately the unit was disbanded by the President in 2009 due to a conflict with the then head of police(!!) We need something similar in Kenya which can organise sting operations that would weed out these "kickback taking" culprits... Best regards, Mblayo On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 3:00 PM, S.M. Muraya via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@walu registered on the portal a few weeks ago, and I like the progress being made.
We need legal support (law enforcement) for industrial reform so local IT firms are no longer mistrusted.
Just heard from someone in an IT firm struggling with a 20% kickback (Bank IT insiders are demanding).
The less we get paid, the less we can pay for skill/talent. The CID should help us clean up our industry.
Regards
Murigi / Stanley Muraya
*"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32*
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
I knew somewhere along the way, @Adam or @Murigi will spoil the party/glory @ICT Authority :-)
walu. -------------------------------------------- On Sun, 11/9/14, S.M. Muraya via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Subject: Re: [kictanet] eCitizen Working Well To: jwalu@yahoo.com Date: Sunday, November 9, 2014, 8:53 PM
What (kind of riot) would happen in the US Senate and Congress if the USG ignored local firms/talent to host such sensitive state data outside the US? Regards Murigi / Stanley Muraya "Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Adam Nelson via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: It would also be nice to see it hosted in Kenya (or at least Europe): 18:27:44 ~ $ sudo mtr www.ecitizen.go.ke --reportStart: Sat Nov 8 18:29:18 2014HOST: adam-2.local Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev 1.|-- 192.168.1.1 0.0% 10 1.5 1.8 1.1 3.1 0.3 2.|-- 192.168.201.1 0.0% 10 2.9 8.7 2.8 53.9 15.9 3.|-- 41.57.108.5 0.0% 10 2.4 4.7 2.4 19.2 5.2 4.|-- 41.222.8.217 0.0% 10 157.7 19.9 2.2 157.7 48.6 5.|-- 195.229.27.57 60.0% 10 59.0 59.7 59.0 60.4 0.0 6.|-- 195.229.0.89 0.0% 10 64.2 70.2 60.8 104.0 12.6 7.|-- pos0-15-0-0.palermo17.pal 0.0% 10 147.0 148.7 142.3 172.5 8.6 8.|-- xe-2-3-0.milano51.mil.sea 50.0% 10 165.4 167.7 164.8 177.2 5.3 9.|-- ntt-verio.milano51.mil.se 30.0% 10 171.6 189.6 170.7 228.1 24.2 10.|-- ae-20.r03.amstnl02.nl.bb. 0.0% 10 276.3 276.9 275.7 281.1 1.4 11.|-- ae-4.r23.amstnl02.nl.bb.g 0.0% 10 184.7 188.6 182.8 204.7 6.2 12.|-- ae-7.r21.asbnva02.us.bb.g 40.0% 10 259.4 265.6 258.7 297.6 15.7 13.|-- ae-0.r20.asbnva02.us.bb.g 20.0% 10 264.3 262.6 260.3 266.1 2.1 14.|-- ae-8.r23.nycmny01.us.bb.g 20.0% 10 273.6 273.5 265.7 314.9 16.9 15.|-- ae-3.r20.chcgil09.us.bb.g 0.0% 10 279.2 283.6 278.9 302.5 7.7 16.|-- ae-1.r06.chcgil09.us.bb.g 10.0% 10 279.7 280.5 278.8 285.2 1.8 17.|-- ae-0.gtt-offnet.chcgil09. 10.0% 10 293.1 295.7 288.3 335.4 15.1 18.|-- ae4.cr1.ord6.us.scnet.net 11.1% 9 299.0 294.1 291.7 299.0 2.5 19.|-- ae3.ar7.ord6.us.scnet.net 22.2% 9 297.1 295.1 294.0 297.1 1.2 20.|-- server.perihelionwebdesig 11.1% 9 294.4 295.8 294.4 297.5 0.918:29:36 ~ $ --Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varudMore Musings: varud.comAbout Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote: Adam Great points. I think if the designers were looking at (in my humble opinion) emulating the Estonia and Singapore case studies then they are on to a great start. I'm thinking also (not sure though as it might just be serendipity) that they are using an iterative process to develop this. One thing that definitely is a major UP is the use of local IP to develop the payment gateway! Great start Team Kenya Government! Regards
Ali Hussein +254 770 906375 / 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassimSkype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassimBlog: www.alyhussein.com
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad On Nov 8, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Adam Nelson via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
It looks great and well designed. Two comments: 1. This site should really be https everywhere. I see that the form submits to an https site but how does one validate that ahead of time without looking at the source?2. I know it's 'eCitizen' but it would be nice if this worked for legal residents as well. Most legal residents don't have an ID that works in that system unfortunately. Otherwise, great stuff! Cheers,Adam --Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varudMore Musings: varud.comAbout Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Gideon via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
+ Aly, Walu, Dorcas for these observations,
First off i appreciate that we are having such an encouraging conversation about the eCitizen government portal, for those who have had first hand experience on it. I think it is important to see that these comments will help improve the services and also express the fact that it is functional.
I encourage that we continue to give our comments so that we can see the improved use of ICT's in government.
Regards Gideon Rop DCA
Hi All,
Wanted to pass a thumbs up to the ICT Authority Team, i used the eCitizen
portal to apply for a duplicate DL recently.
All worked out very well.
Thumbs up to the Pesapal team, that payment went very well!
NTSA customer service was great.
Times tower 3rd Floor team was bit slow, i forgive them as i got our old
paper booklet DL version for the replacement.
I did not leave my desk to have these going which was even greater! My
messenger collected the DL painlessly too.
Kudos to all behind the work. I guess Dr. Matiang'i, Victor, Dr. Getao,
Harry, Mugambi and entire team.
--
Muthoni
My Blog: http://rugongo.blogspot.com/
--------------------------------------------
Mahatma Gandhi once said:-
First they ignore you,
Then they laugh at you,
Then they fight you,
AND THEN YOU WIN!!!
@Adam I would be keen to learn on any high-availability data centres that can scale locally. Yes, i challenge you give me a site visit! Although i would prefer the services hosted in a local data centre, i am doubtful that we have any that would scale well. On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Adam Nelson via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
It would also be nice to see it hosted in Kenya (or at least Europe):
18:27:44 ~ $ sudo mtr www.ecitizen.go.ke --report Start: Sat Nov 8 18:29:18 2014 HOST: adam-2.local Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev 1.|-- 192.168.1.1 0.0% 10 1.5 1.8 1.1 3.1 0.3 2.|-- 192.168.201.1 0.0% 10 2.9 8.7 2.8 53.9 15.9 3.|-- 41.57.108.5 0.0% 10 2.4 4.7 2.4 19.2 5.2 4.|-- 41.222.8.217 0.0% 10 157.7 19.9 2.2 157.7 48.6 5.|-- 195.229.27.57 60.0% 10 59.0 59.7 59.0 60.4 0.0 6.|-- 195.229.0.89 0.0% 10 64.2 70.2 60.8 104.0 12.6 7.|-- pos0-15-0-0.palermo17.pal 0.0% 10 147.0 148.7 142.3 172.5 8.6 8.|-- xe-2-3-0.milano51.mil.sea 50.0% 10 165.4 167.7 164.8 177.2 5.3 9.|-- ntt-verio.milano51.mil.se 30.0% 10 171.6 189.6 170.7 228.1 24.2 10.|-- ae-20.r03.amstnl02.nl.bb. 0.0% 10 276.3 276.9 275.7 281.1 1.4 11.|-- ae-4.r23.amstnl02.nl.bb.g 0.0% 10 184.7 188.6 182.8 204.7 6.2 12.|-- ae-7.r21.asbnva02.us.bb.g 40.0% 10 259.4 265.6 258.7 297.6 15.7 13.|-- ae-0.r20.asbnva02.us.bb.g 20.0% 10 264.3 262.6 260.3 266.1 2.1 14.|-- ae-8.r23.nycmny01.us.bb.g 20.0% 10 273.6 273.5 265.7 314.9 16.9 15.|-- ae-3.r20.chcgil09.us.bb.g 0.0% 10 279.2 283.6 278.9 302.5 7.7 16.|-- ae-1.r06.chcgil09.us.bb.g 10.0% 10 279.7 280.5 278.8 285.2 1.8 17.|-- ae-0.gtt-offnet.chcgil09. 10.0% 10 293.1 295.7 288.3 335.4 15.1 18.|-- ae4.cr1.ord6.us.scnet.net 11.1% 9 299.0 294.1 291.7 299.0 2.5 19.|-- ae3.ar7.ord6.us.scnet.net 22.2% 9 297.1 295.1 294.0 297.1 1.2 20.|-- server.perihelionwebdesig 11.1% 9 294.4 295.8 294.4 297.5 0.9 18:29:36 ~ $
-- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Adam
Great points. I think if the designers were looking at (in my humble opinion) emulating the Estonia and Singapore case studies then they are on to a great start. I'm thinking also (not sure though as it might just be serendipity) that they are using an iterative process to develop this.
One thing that definitely is a major UP is the use of local IP to develop the payment gateway!
Great start Team Kenya Government!
Regards
*Ali Hussein*
+254 770 906375 / 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
Blog: www.alyhussein.com
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
Sent from my iPad
On Nov 8, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Adam Nelson via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
It looks great and well designed. Two comments:
1. This site should really be https everywhere. I see that the form submits to an https site but how does one validate that ahead of time without looking at the source? 2. I know it's 'eCitizen' but it would be nice if this worked for legal residents as well. Most legal residents don't have an ID that works in that system unfortunately.
Otherwise, great stuff!
Cheers, Adam
-- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Gideon via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
+ Aly, Walu, Dorcas for these observations,
First off i appreciate that we are having such an encouraging conversation about the eCitizen government portal, for those who have had first hand experience on it. I think it is important to see that these comments will help improve the services and also express the fact that it is functional.
I encourage that we continue to give our comments so that we can see the improved use of ICT's in government.
Regards Gideon Rop DCA
Hi All,
Wanted to pass a thumbs up to the ICT Authority Team, i used the eCitizen portal to apply for a duplicate DL recently.
All worked out very well.
Thumbs up to the Pesapal team, that payment went very well!
NTSA customer service was great.
Times tower 3rd Floor team was bit slow, i forgive them as i got our old paper booklet DL version for the replacement.
I did not leave my desk to have these going which was even greater! My messenger collected the DL painlessly too.
Kudos to all behind the work. I guess Dr. Matiang'i, Victor, Dr. Getao, Harry, Mugambi and entire team.
-- Muthoni
My Blog: http://rugongo.blogspot.com/ -------------------------------------------- Mahatma Gandhi once said:-
First they ignore you, Then they laugh at you, Then they fight you, AND THEN YOU WIN!!!
@Dorcas, There are very few local websites that would need scalability past Duo CPU / Multi-core setups with good memory so i guess scalability is easily sorted or is a non-issue. In terms of redundancy, two local sites would pull the trick very well IMO. Say KDN Data Center with Sfaricom Data Center as a hot backup. Rgds On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Adam
I would be keen to learn on any high-availability data centres that can scale locally. Yes, i challenge you give me a site visit!
Although i would prefer the services hosted in a local data centre, i am doubtful that we have any that would scale well.
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Adam Nelson via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
It would also be nice to see it hosted in Kenya (or at least Europe):
18:27:44 ~ $ sudo mtr www.ecitizen.go.ke --report Start: Sat Nov 8 18:29:18 2014 HOST: adam-2.local Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev 1.|-- 192.168.1.1 0.0% 10 1.5 1.8 1.1 3.1 0.3 2.|-- 192.168.201.1 0.0% 10 2.9 8.7 2.8 53.9 15.9 3.|-- 41.57.108.5 0.0% 10 2.4 4.7 2.4 19.2 5.2 4.|-- 41.222.8.217 0.0% 10 157.7 19.9 2.2 157.7 48.6 5.|-- 195.229.27.57 60.0% 10 59.0 59.7 59.0 60.4 0.0 6.|-- 195.229.0.89 0.0% 10 64.2 70.2 60.8 104.0 12.6 7.|-- pos0-15-0-0.palermo17.pal 0.0% 10 147.0 148.7 142.3 172.5 8.6 8.|-- xe-2-3-0.milano51.mil.sea 50.0% 10 165.4 167.7 164.8 177.2 5.3 9.|-- ntt-verio.milano51.mil.se 30.0% 10 171.6 189.6 170.7 228.1 24.2 10.|-- ae-20.r03.amstnl02.nl.bb. 0.0% 10 276.3 276.9 275.7 281.1 1.4 11.|-- ae-4.r23.amstnl02.nl.bb.g 0.0% 10 184.7 188.6 182.8 204.7 6.2 12.|-- ae-7.r21.asbnva02.us.bb.g 40.0% 10 259.4 265.6 258.7 297.6 15.7 13.|-- ae-0.r20.asbnva02.us.bb.g 20.0% 10 264.3 262.6 260.3 266.1 2.1 14.|-- ae-8.r23.nycmny01.us.bb.g 20.0% 10 273.6 273.5 265.7 314.9 16.9 15.|-- ae-3.r20.chcgil09.us.bb.g 0.0% 10 279.2 283.6 278.9 302.5 7.7 16.|-- ae-1.r06.chcgil09.us.bb.g 10.0% 10 279.7 280.5 278.8 285.2 1.8 17.|-- ae-0.gtt-offnet.chcgil09. 10.0% 10 293.1 295.7 288.3 335.4 15.1 18.|-- ae4.cr1.ord6.us.scnet.net 11.1% 9 299.0 294.1 291.7 299.0 2.5 19.|-- ae3.ar7.ord6.us.scnet.net 22.2% 9 297.1 295.1 294.0 297.1 1.2 20.|-- server.perihelionwebdesig 11.1% 9 294.4 295.8 294.4 297.5 0.9 18:29:36 ~ $
-- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Adam
Great points. I think if the designers were looking at (in my humble opinion) emulating the Estonia and Singapore case studies then they are on to a great start. I'm thinking also (not sure though as it might just be serendipity) that they are using an iterative process to develop this.
One thing that definitely is a major UP is the use of local IP to develop the payment gateway!
Great start Team Kenya Government!
Regards
*Ali Hussein*
+254 770 906375 / 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
Blog: www.alyhussein.com
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
Sent from my iPad
On Nov 8, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Adam Nelson via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
It looks great and well designed. Two comments:
1. This site should really be https everywhere. I see that the form submits to an https site but how does one validate that ahead of time without looking at the source? 2. I know it's 'eCitizen' but it would be nice if this worked for legal residents as well. Most legal residents don't have an ID that works in that system unfortunately.
Otherwise, great stuff!
Cheers, Adam
-- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Gideon via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
+ Aly, Walu, Dorcas for these observations,
First off i appreciate that we are having such an encouraging conversation about the eCitizen government portal, for those who have had first hand experience on it. I think it is important to see that these comments will help improve the services and also express the fact that it is functional.
I encourage that we continue to give our comments so that we can see the improved use of ICT's in government.
Regards Gideon Rop DCA
Hi All,
Wanted to pass a thumbs up to the ICT Authority Team, i used the eCitizen portal to apply for a duplicate DL recently.
All worked out very well.
Thumbs up to the Pesapal team, that payment went very well!
NTSA customer service was great.
Times tower 3rd Floor team was bit slow, i forgive them as i got our old paper booklet DL version for the replacement.
I did not leave my desk to have these going which was even greater! My messenger collected the DL painlessly too.
Kudos to all behind the work. I guess Dr. Matiang'i, Victor, Dr. Getao, Harry, Mugambi and entire team.
-- Muthoni
My Blog: http://rugongo.blogspot.com/ -------------------------------------------- Mahatma Gandhi once said:-
First they ignore you, Then they laugh at you, Then they fight you, AND THEN YOU WIN!!!
@Ngigi We are talking applications not websites. And data centres are not about processors, far from it. Tell me more about the KDN and Safaricom data centre high availability. Real stuff i mean. I am happy to do a site visit. On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
@Dorcas,
There are very few local websites that would need scalability past Duo CPU / Multi-core setups with good memory so i guess scalability is easily sorted or is a non-issue.
In terms of redundancy, two local sites would pull the trick very well IMO. Say KDN Data Center with Sfaricom Data Center as a hot backup.
Rgds
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Adam
I would be keen to learn on any high-availability data centres that can scale locally. Yes, i challenge you give me a site visit!
Although i would prefer the services hosted in a local data centre, i am doubtful that we have any that would scale well.
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Adam Nelson via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
It would also be nice to see it hosted in Kenya (or at least Europe):
18:27:44 ~ $ sudo mtr www.ecitizen.go.ke --report Start: Sat Nov 8 18:29:18 2014 HOST: adam-2.local Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev 1.|-- 192.168.1.1 0.0% 10 1.5 1.8 1.1 3.1 0.3 2.|-- 192.168.201.1 0.0% 10 2.9 8.7 2.8 53.9 15.9 3.|-- 41.57.108.5 0.0% 10 2.4 4.7 2.4 19.2 5.2 4.|-- 41.222.8.217 0.0% 10 157.7 19.9 2.2 157.7 48.6 5.|-- 195.229.27.57 60.0% 10 59.0 59.7 59.0 60.4 0.0 6.|-- 195.229.0.89 0.0% 10 64.2 70.2 60.8 104.0 12.6 7.|-- pos0-15-0-0.palermo17.pal 0.0% 10 147.0 148.7 142.3 172.5 8.6 8.|-- xe-2-3-0.milano51.mil.sea 50.0% 10 165.4 167.7 164.8 177.2 5.3 9.|-- ntt-verio.milano51.mil.se 30.0% 10 171.6 189.6 170.7 228.1 24.2 10.|-- ae-20.r03.amstnl02.nl.bb. 0.0% 10 276.3 276.9 275.7 281.1 1.4 11.|-- ae-4.r23.amstnl02.nl.bb.g 0.0% 10 184.7 188.6 182.8 204.7 6.2 12.|-- ae-7.r21.asbnva02.us.bb.g 40.0% 10 259.4 265.6 258.7 297.6 15.7 13.|-- ae-0.r20.asbnva02.us.bb.g 20.0% 10 264.3 262.6 260.3 266.1 2.1 14.|-- ae-8.r23.nycmny01.us.bb.g 20.0% 10 273.6 273.5 265.7 314.9 16.9 15.|-- ae-3.r20.chcgil09.us.bb.g 0.0% 10 279.2 283.6 278.9 302.5 7.7 16.|-- ae-1.r06.chcgil09.us.bb.g 10.0% 10 279.7 280.5 278.8 285.2 1.8 17.|-- ae-0.gtt-offnet.chcgil09. 10.0% 10 293.1 295.7 288.3 335.4 15.1 18.|-- ae4.cr1.ord6.us.scnet.net 11.1% 9 299.0 294.1 291.7 299.0 2.5 19.|-- ae3.ar7.ord6.us.scnet.net 22.2% 9 297.1 295.1 294.0 297.1 1.2 20.|-- server.perihelionwebdesig 11.1% 9 294.4 295.8 294.4 297.5 0.9 18:29:36 ~ $
-- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Adam
Great points. I think if the designers were looking at (in my humble opinion) emulating the Estonia and Singapore case studies then they are on to a great start. I'm thinking also (not sure though as it might just be serendipity) that they are using an iterative process to develop this.
One thing that definitely is a major UP is the use of local IP to develop the payment gateway!
Great start Team Kenya Government!
Regards
*Ali Hussein*
+254 770 906375 / 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
Blog: www.alyhussein.com
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
Sent from my iPad
On Nov 8, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Adam Nelson via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
It looks great and well designed. Two comments:
1. This site should really be https everywhere. I see that the form submits to an https site but how does one validate that ahead of time without looking at the source? 2. I know it's 'eCitizen' but it would be nice if this worked for legal residents as well. Most legal residents don't have an ID that works in that system unfortunately.
Otherwise, great stuff!
Cheers, Adam
-- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Gideon via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
+ Aly, Walu, Dorcas for these observations,
First off i appreciate that we are having such an encouraging conversation about the eCitizen government portal, for those who have had first hand experience on it. I think it is important to see that these comments will help improve the services and also express the fact that it is functional.
I encourage that we continue to give our comments so that we can see the improved use of ICT's in government.
Regards Gideon Rop DCA
Hi All,
Wanted to pass a thumbs up to the ICT Authority Team, i used the eCitizen portal to apply for a duplicate DL recently.
All worked out very well.
Thumbs up to the Pesapal team, that payment went very well!
NTSA customer service was great.
Times tower 3rd Floor team was bit slow, i forgive them as i got our old paper booklet DL version for the replacement.
I did not leave my desk to have these going which was even greater! My messenger collected the DL painlessly too.
Kudos to all behind the work. I guess Dr. Matiang'i, Victor, Dr. Getao, Harry, Mugambi and entire team.
-- Muthoni
My Blog: http://rugongo.blogspot.com/ -------------------------------------------- Mahatma Gandhi once said:-
First they ignore you, Then they laugh at you, Then they fight you, AND THEN YOU WIN!!!
Dorcas I support you on this. It's not only about the capacity and memory, bandwidth etc. It's also about service delivery. We are far from there yet. Although I must say that a few new entrants are working hard towards serving the industry from a world class perspective. Of mention here is:- 1. Angani 2. kili.io Work in progress but I applaud them for taking the leap. Ali Hussein +254 770 906375 / 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad
On Nov 13, 2014, at 3:35 PM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Ngigi
We are talking applications not websites. And data centres are not about processors, far from it.
Tell me more about the KDN and Safaricom data centre high availability. Real stuff i mean. I am happy to do a site visit.
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote: @Dorcas,
There are very few local websites that would need scalability past Duo CPU / Multi-core setups with good memory so i guess scalability is easily sorted or is a non-issue.
In terms of redundancy, two local sites would pull the trick very well IMO. Say KDN Data Center with Sfaricom Data Center as a hot backup.
Rgds
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: @Adam
I would be keen to learn on any high-availability data centres that can scale locally. Yes, i challenge you give me a site visit!
Although i would prefer the services hosted in a local data centre, i am doubtful that we have any that would scale well.
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Adam Nelson via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: It would also be nice to see it hosted in Kenya (or at least Europe):
18:27:44 ~ $ sudo mtr www.ecitizen.go.ke --report Start: Sat Nov 8 18:29:18 2014 HOST: adam-2.local Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev 1.|-- 192.168.1.1 0.0% 10 1.5 1.8 1.1 3.1 0.3 2.|-- 192.168.201.1 0.0% 10 2.9 8.7 2.8 53.9 15.9 3.|-- 41.57.108.5 0.0% 10 2.4 4.7 2.4 19.2 5.2 4.|-- 41.222.8.217 0.0% 10 157.7 19.9 2.2 157.7 48.6 5.|-- 195.229.27.57 60.0% 10 59.0 59.7 59.0 60.4 0.0 6.|-- 195.229.0.89 0.0% 10 64.2 70.2 60.8 104.0 12.6 7.|-- pos0-15-0-0.palermo17.pal 0.0% 10 147.0 148.7 142.3 172.5 8.6 8.|-- xe-2-3-0.milano51.mil.sea 50.0% 10 165.4 167.7 164.8 177.2 5.3 9.|-- ntt-verio.milano51.mil.se 30.0% 10 171.6 189.6 170.7 228.1 24.2 10.|-- ae-20.r03.amstnl02.nl.bb. 0.0% 10 276.3 276.9 275.7 281.1 1.4 11.|-- ae-4.r23.amstnl02.nl.bb.g 0.0% 10 184.7 188.6 182.8 204.7 6.2 12.|-- ae-7.r21.asbnva02.us.bb.g 40.0% 10 259.4 265.6 258.7 297.6 15.7 13.|-- ae-0.r20.asbnva02.us.bb.g 20.0% 10 264.3 262.6 260.3 266.1 2.1 14.|-- ae-8.r23.nycmny01.us.bb.g 20.0% 10 273.6 273.5 265.7 314.9 16.9 15.|-- ae-3.r20.chcgil09.us.bb.g 0.0% 10 279.2 283.6 278.9 302.5 7.7 16.|-- ae-1.r06.chcgil09.us.bb.g 10.0% 10 279.7 280.5 278.8 285.2 1.8 17.|-- ae-0.gtt-offnet.chcgil09. 10.0% 10 293.1 295.7 288.3 335.4 15.1 18.|-- ae4.cr1.ord6.us.scnet.net 11.1% 9 299.0 294.1 291.7 299.0 2.5 19.|-- ae3.ar7.ord6.us.scnet.net 22.2% 9 297.1 295.1 294.0 297.1 1.2 20.|-- server.perihelionwebdesig 11.1% 9 294.4 295.8 294.4 297.5 0.9 18:29:36 ~ $
-- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote: Adam
Great points. I think if the designers were looking at (in my humble opinion) emulating the Estonia and Singapore case studies then they are on to a great start. I'm thinking also (not sure though as it might just be serendipity) that they are using an iterative process to develop this.
One thing that definitely is a major UP is the use of local IP to develop the payment gateway!
Great start Team Kenya Government!
Regards
Ali Hussein
+254 770 906375 / 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
Sent from my iPad
On Nov 8, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Adam Nelson via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
It looks great and well designed. Two comments:
1. This site should really be https everywhere. I see that the form submits to an https site but how does one validate that ahead of time without looking at the source? 2. I know it's 'eCitizen' but it would be nice if this worked for legal residents as well. Most legal residents don't have an ID that works in that system unfortunately.
Otherwise, great stuff!
Cheers, Adam
-- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
> On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Gideon via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > + Aly, Walu, Dorcas for these observations, > > First off i appreciate that we are having such an encouraging conversation about the eCitizen government portal, for those who have had first hand experience on it. I think it is important to see that these comments will help improve the services and also express the fact that it is functional. > > I encourage that we continue to give our comments so that we can see the improved use of ICT's in government. > > Regards > Gideon Rop > DCA > > >> >> Hi All, >> >> Wanted to pass a thumbs up to the ICT Authority Team, i used the eCitizen >> portal to apply for a duplicate DL recently. >> >> All worked out very well. >> >> Thumbs up to the Pesapal team, that payment went very well! >> >> NTSA customer service was great. >> >> Times tower 3rd Floor team was bit slow, i forgive them as i got our old >> paper booklet DL version for the replacement. >> >> I did not leave my desk to have these going which was even greater! My >> messenger collected the DL painlessly too. >> >> Kudos to all behind the work. I guess Dr. Matiang'i, Victor, Dr. Getao, >> Harry, Mugambi and entire team. >> >> -- >> Muthoni >> >> My Blog: http://rugongo.blogspot.com/ >> -------------------------------------------- >> Mahatma Gandhi once said:- >> >> First they ignore you, >> Then they laugh at you, >> Then they fight you, >> AND THEN YOU WIN!!! >>
@ali About service delivery... (i) We have the automation skills in Kenya. We are just too focused on ERP (financials/collections for our own needs). Less focused on customer/CRM infrastructure service automation. (ii) We need a working judiciary and law enforcement. To deal with fraud and other anti competitive practices. After 5+ years in Kenya why would any multinational building up local firms need to recommend foreign firms? What IP does Kenya gain when multinational firms (for decades) recommend foreign led firms for local projects? Regards Murigi / Stanley Muraya *"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32* On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 6:32 PM, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dorcas
I support you on this. It's not only about the capacity and memory, bandwidth etc. It's also about service delivery. We are far from there yet. Although I must say that a few new entrants are working hard towards serving the industry from a world class perspective. Of mention here is:-
1. Angani 2. kili.io
Work in progress but I applaud them for taking the leap.
*Ali Hussein*
+254 770 906375 / 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
Blog: www.alyhussein.com
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
Sent from my iPad
On Nov 13, 2014, at 3:35 PM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Ngigi
We are talking applications not websites. And data centres are not about processors, far from it.
Tell me more about the KDN and Safaricom data centre high availability. Real stuff i mean. I am happy to do a site visit.
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
@Dorcas,
There are very few local websites that would need scalability past Duo CPU / Multi-core setups with good memory so i guess scalability is easily sorted or is a non-issue.
In terms of redundancy, two local sites would pull the trick very well IMO. Say KDN Data Center with Sfaricom Data Center as a hot backup.
Rgds
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Adam
I would be keen to learn on any high-availability data centres that can scale locally. Yes, i challenge you give me a site visit!
Although i would prefer the services hosted in a local data centre, i am doubtful that we have any that would scale well.
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Adam Nelson via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
It would also be nice to see it hosted in Kenya (or at least Europe):
18:27:44 ~ $ sudo mtr www.ecitizen.go.ke --report Start: Sat Nov 8 18:29:18 2014 HOST: adam-2.local Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev 1.|-- 192.168.1.1 0.0% 10 1.5 1.8 1.1 3.1 0.3 2.|-- 192.168.201.1 0.0% 10 2.9 8.7 2.8 53.9 15.9 3.|-- 41.57.108.5 0.0% 10 2.4 4.7 2.4 19.2 5.2 4.|-- 41.222.8.217 0.0% 10 157.7 19.9 2.2 157.7 48.6 5.|-- 195.229.27.57 60.0% 10 59.0 59.7 59.0 60.4 0.0 6.|-- 195.229.0.89 0.0% 10 64.2 70.2 60.8 104.0 12.6 7.|-- pos0-15-0-0.palermo17.pal 0.0% 10 147.0 148.7 142.3 172.5 8.6 8.|-- xe-2-3-0.milano51.mil.sea 50.0% 10 165.4 167.7 164.8 177.2 5.3 9.|-- ntt-verio.milano51.mil.se 30.0% 10 171.6 189.6 170.7 228.1 24.2 10.|-- ae-20.r03.amstnl02.nl.bb. 0.0% 10 276.3 276.9 275.7 281.1 1.4 11.|-- ae-4.r23.amstnl02.nl.bb.g 0.0% 10 184.7 188.6 182.8 204.7 6.2 12.|-- ae-7.r21.asbnva02.us.bb.g 40.0% 10 259.4 265.6 258.7 297.6 15.7 13.|-- ae-0.r20.asbnva02.us.bb.g 20.0% 10 264.3 262.6 260.3 266.1 2.1 14.|-- ae-8.r23.nycmny01.us.bb.g 20.0% 10 273.6 273.5 265.7 314.9 16.9 15.|-- ae-3.r20.chcgil09.us.bb.g 0.0% 10 279.2 283.6 278.9 302.5 7.7 16.|-- ae-1.r06.chcgil09.us.bb.g 10.0% 10 279.7 280.5 278.8 285.2 1.8 17.|-- ae-0.gtt-offnet.chcgil09. 10.0% 10 293.1 295.7 288.3 335.4 15.1 18.|-- ae4.cr1.ord6.us.scnet.net 11.1% 9 299.0 294.1 291.7 299.0 2.5 19.|-- ae3.ar7.ord6.us.scnet.net 22.2% 9 297.1 295.1 294.0 297.1 1.2 20.|-- server.perihelionwebdesig 11.1% 9 294.4 295.8 294.4 297.5 0.9 18:29:36 ~ $
-- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Adam
Great points. I think if the designers were looking at (in my humble opinion) emulating the Estonia and Singapore case studies then they are on to a great start. I'm thinking also (not sure though as it might just be serendipity) that they are using an iterative process to develop this.
One thing that definitely is a major UP is the use of local IP to develop the payment gateway!
Great start Team Kenya Government!
Regards
*Ali Hussein*
+254 770 906375 / 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
Blog: www.alyhussein.com
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
Sent from my iPad
On Nov 8, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Adam Nelson via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
It looks great and well designed. Two comments:
1. This site should really be https everywhere. I see that the form submits to an https site but how does one validate that ahead of time without looking at the source? 2. I know it's 'eCitizen' but it would be nice if this worked for legal residents as well. Most legal residents don't have an ID that works in that system unfortunately.
Otherwise, great stuff!
Cheers, Adam
-- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Gideon via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
+ Aly, Walu, Dorcas for these observations,
First off i appreciate that we are having such an encouraging conversation about the eCitizen government portal, for those who have had first hand experience on it. I think it is important to see that these comments will help improve the services and also express the fact that it is functional.
I encourage that we continue to give our comments so that we can see the improved use of ICT's in government.
Regards Gideon Rop DCA
> Hi All, > > Wanted to pass a thumbs up to the ICT Authority Team, i used the > eCitizen > portal to apply for a duplicate DL recently. > > All worked out very well. > > Thumbs up to the Pesapal team, that payment went very well! > > NTSA customer service was great. > > Times tower 3rd Floor team was bit slow, i forgive them as i got our > old > paper booklet DL version for the replacement. > > I did not leave my desk to have these going which was even greater! > My > messenger collected the DL painlessly too. > > Kudos to all behind the work. I guess Dr. Matiang'i, Victor, Dr. > Getao, > Harry, Mugambi and entire team. > > -- > Muthoni > > My Blog: http://rugongo.blogspot.com/ > -------------------------------------------- > Mahatma Gandhi once said:- > > First they ignore you, > Then they laugh at you, > Then they fight you, > AND THEN YOU WIN!!! >
Muraya You are preaching to the converted. What we need however is to continuously look at improving ourselves and benchmark at a global level NOT compare ourselves to our neighbours. Having said that I know for certain that great strides have been made. We just need to keep,up the momentum. Ali Hussein +254 770 906375 / 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad
On Nov 13, 2014, at 10:19 PM, S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya@gmail.com> wrote:
@ali About service delivery...
(i) We have the automation skills in Kenya.
We are just too focused on ERP (financials/collections for our own needs).
Less focused on customer/CRM infrastructure service automation.
(ii) We need a working judiciary and law enforcement.
To deal with fraud and other anti competitive practices.
After 5+ years in Kenya why would any multinational building up local firms need to recommend foreign firms?
What IP does Kenya gain when multinational firms (for decades) recommend foreign led firms for local projects?
Regards
Murigi / Stanley Muraya
"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 6:32 PM, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Dorcas
I support you on this. It's not only about the capacity and memory, bandwidth etc. It's also about service delivery. We are far from there yet. Although I must say that a few new entrants are working hard towards serving the industry from a world class perspective. Of mention here is:-
1. Angani 2. kili.io
Work in progress but I applaud them for taking the leap.
Ali Hussein
+254 770 906375 / 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
Sent from my iPad
On Nov 13, 2014, at 3:35 PM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Ngigi
We are talking applications not websites. And data centres are not about processors, far from it.
Tell me more about the KDN and Safaricom data centre high availability. Real stuff i mean. I am happy to do a site visit.
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote: @Dorcas,
There are very few local websites that would need scalability past Duo CPU / Multi-core setups with good memory so i guess scalability is easily sorted or is a non-issue.
In terms of redundancy, two local sites would pull the trick very well IMO. Say KDN Data Center with Sfaricom Data Center as a hot backup.
Rgds
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: @Adam
I would be keen to learn on any high-availability data centres that can scale locally. Yes, i challenge you give me a site visit!
Although i would prefer the services hosted in a local data centre, i am doubtful that we have any that would scale well.
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Adam Nelson via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: It would also be nice to see it hosted in Kenya (or at least Europe):
18:27:44 ~ $ sudo mtr www.ecitizen.go.ke --report Start: Sat Nov 8 18:29:18 2014 HOST: adam-2.local Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev 1.|-- 192.168.1.1 0.0% 10 1.5 1.8 1.1 3.1 0.3 2.|-- 192.168.201.1 0.0% 10 2.9 8.7 2.8 53.9 15.9 3.|-- 41.57.108.5 0.0% 10 2.4 4.7 2.4 19.2 5.2 4.|-- 41.222.8.217 0.0% 10 157.7 19.9 2.2 157.7 48.6 5.|-- 195.229.27.57 60.0% 10 59.0 59.7 59.0 60.4 0.0 6.|-- 195.229.0.89 0.0% 10 64.2 70.2 60.8 104.0 12.6 7.|-- pos0-15-0-0.palermo17.pal 0.0% 10 147.0 148.7 142.3 172.5 8.6 8.|-- xe-2-3-0.milano51.mil.sea 50.0% 10 165.4 167.7 164.8 177.2 5.3 9.|-- ntt-verio.milano51.mil.se 30.0% 10 171.6 189.6 170.7 228.1 24.2 10.|-- ae-20.r03.amstnl02.nl.bb. 0.0% 10 276.3 276.9 275.7 281.1 1.4 11.|-- ae-4.r23.amstnl02.nl.bb.g 0.0% 10 184.7 188.6 182.8 204.7 6.2 12.|-- ae-7.r21.asbnva02.us.bb.g 40.0% 10 259.4 265.6 258.7 297.6 15.7 13.|-- ae-0.r20.asbnva02.us.bb.g 20.0% 10 264.3 262.6 260.3 266.1 2.1 14.|-- ae-8.r23.nycmny01.us.bb.g 20.0% 10 273.6 273.5 265.7 314.9 16.9 15.|-- ae-3.r20.chcgil09.us.bb.g 0.0% 10 279.2 283.6 278.9 302.5 7.7 16.|-- ae-1.r06.chcgil09.us.bb.g 10.0% 10 279.7 280.5 278.8 285.2 1.8 17.|-- ae-0.gtt-offnet.chcgil09. 10.0% 10 293.1 295.7 288.3 335.4 15.1 18.|-- ae4.cr1.ord6.us.scnet.net 11.1% 9 299.0 294.1 291.7 299.0 2.5 19.|-- ae3.ar7.ord6.us.scnet.net 22.2% 9 297.1 295.1 294.0 297.1 1.2 20.|-- server.perihelionwebdesig 11.1% 9 294.4 295.8 294.4 297.5 0.9 18:29:36 ~ $
-- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
> On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote: > Adam > > Great points. I think if the designers were looking at (in my humble opinion) emulating the Estonia and Singapore case studies then they are on to a great start. I'm thinking also (not sure though as it might just be serendipity) that they are using an iterative process to develop this. > > One thing that definitely is a major UP is the use of local IP to develop the payment gateway! > > Great start Team Kenya Government! > > Regards > > Ali Hussein > > +254 770 906375 / 0713 601113 > > Twitter: @AliHKassim > Skype: abu-jomo > LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > Blog: www.alyhussein.com > > "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Nov 8, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Adam Nelson via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >> >> It looks great and well designed. Two comments: >> >> 1. This site should really be https everywhere. I see that the form submits to an https site but how does one validate that ahead of time without looking at the source? >> 2. I know it's 'eCitizen' but it would be nice if this worked for legal residents as well. Most legal residents don't have an ID that works in that system unfortunately. >> >> Otherwise, great stuff! >> >> Cheers, >> Adam >> >> -- >> Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io >> Musings: twitter.com/varud >> More Musings: varud.com >> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson >> >>> On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Gideon via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>> >>> + Aly, Walu, Dorcas for these observations, >>> >>> First off i appreciate that we are having such an encouraging conversation about the eCitizen government portal, for those who have had first hand experience on it. I think it is important to see that these comments will help improve the services and also express the fact that it is functional. >>> >>> I encourage that we continue to give our comments so that we can see the improved use of ICT's in government. >>> >>> Regards >>> Gideon Rop >>> DCA >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> Wanted to pass a thumbs up to the ICT Authority Team, i used the eCitizen >>>> portal to apply for a duplicate DL recently. >>>> >>>> All worked out very well. >>>> >>>> Thumbs up to the Pesapal team, that payment went very well! >>>> >>>> NTSA customer service was great. >>>> >>>> Times tower 3rd Floor team was bit slow, i forgive them as i got our old >>>> paper booklet DL version for the replacement. >>>> >>>> I did not leave my desk to have these going which was even greater! My >>>> messenger collected the DL painlessly too. >>>> >>>> Kudos to all behind the work. I guess Dr. Matiang'i, Victor, Dr. Getao, >>>> Harry, Mugambi and entire team. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Muthoni >>>> >>>> My Blog: http://rugongo.blogspot.com/ >>>> -------------------------------------------- >>>> Mahatma Gandhi once said:- >>>> >>>> First they ignore you, >>>> Then they laugh at you, >>>> Then they fight you, >>>> AND THEN YOU WIN!!! >>>>
Muthoni, We can arrange a visit for Tuesday to the EADC (KDN Datacenter). It's quite something, and you will see. Ngigi - karibu also - Tuesday morning ? If more members are interested, we can arrange a second visit with Dan Kwach - the GM there. I'm happy to help facilitate. Angani, like any other Cloud provider, has to build in enough redundancy - we now have nodes running in 2 separate datacenters, along with using at least 2 ISPs etc. The next step is for whoever is building the applications - to take advantage & incorporate DB and application-level redundancy into the app. For us, and for businesses as well - high availability is very possible in Kenya - just comes with investing in redundant infrastructure e.g. get 2 ISP links to your office - both don't have to be expensive "corporate" links - add in a JTL or Zuku 10mbps link. Maybe use a BRCK to handle failover to 3G ;) Riyaz On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Ngigi
We are talking applications not websites. And data centres are not about processors, far from it.
Tell me more about the KDN and Safaricom data centre high availability. Real stuff i mean. I am happy to do a site visit.
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
@Dorcas,
There are very few local websites that would need scalability past Duo CPU / Multi-core setups with good memory so i guess scalability is easily sorted or is a non-issue.
In terms of redundancy, two local sites would pull the trick very well IMO. Say KDN Data Center with Sfaricom Data Center as a hot backup.
Rgds
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Adam
I would be keen to learn on any high-availability data centres that can scale locally. Yes, i challenge you give me a site visit!
Although i would prefer the services hosted in a local data centre, i am doubtful that we have any that would scale well.
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Adam Nelson via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
It would also be nice to see it hosted in Kenya (or at least Europe):
18:27:44 ~ $ sudo mtr www.ecitizen.go.ke --report Start: Sat Nov 8 18:29:18 2014 HOST: adam-2.local Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev 1.|-- 192.168.1.1 0.0% 10 1.5 1.8 1.1 3.1 0.3 2.|-- 192.168.201.1 0.0% 10 2.9 8.7 2.8 53.9 15.9 3.|-- 41.57.108.5 0.0% 10 2.4 4.7 2.4 19.2 5.2 4.|-- 41.222.8.217 0.0% 10 157.7 19.9 2.2 157.7 48.6 5.|-- 195.229.27.57 60.0% 10 59.0 59.7 59.0 60.4 0.0 6.|-- 195.229.0.89 0.0% 10 64.2 70.2 60.8 104.0 12.6 7.|-- pos0-15-0-0.palermo17.pal 0.0% 10 147.0 148.7 142.3 172.5 8.6 8.|-- xe-2-3-0.milano51.mil.sea 50.0% 10 165.4 167.7 164.8 177.2 5.3 9.|-- ntt-verio.milano51.mil.se 30.0% 10 171.6 189.6 170.7 228.1 24.2 10.|-- ae-20.r03.amstnl02.nl.bb. 0.0% 10 276.3 276.9 275.7 281.1 1.4 11.|-- ae-4.r23.amstnl02.nl.bb.g 0.0% 10 184.7 188.6 182.8 204.7 6.2 12.|-- ae-7.r21.asbnva02.us.bb.g 40.0% 10 259.4 265.6 258.7 297.6 15.7 13.|-- ae-0.r20.asbnva02.us.bb.g 20.0% 10 264.3 262.6 260.3 266.1 2.1 14.|-- ae-8.r23.nycmny01.us.bb.g 20.0% 10 273.6 273.5 265.7 314.9 16.9 15.|-- ae-3.r20.chcgil09.us.bb.g 0.0% 10 279.2 283.6 278.9 302.5 7.7 16.|-- ae-1.r06.chcgil09.us.bb.g 10.0% 10 279.7 280.5 278.8 285.2 1.8 17.|-- ae-0.gtt-offnet.chcgil09. 10.0% 10 293.1 295.7 288.3 335.4 15.1 18.|-- ae4.cr1.ord6.us.scnet.net 11.1% 9 299.0 294.1 291.7 299.0 2.5 19.|-- ae3.ar7.ord6.us.scnet.net 22.2% 9 297.1 295.1 294.0 297.1 1.2 20.|-- server.perihelionwebdesig 11.1% 9 294.4 295.8 294.4 297.5 0.9 18:29:36 ~ $
-- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Adam
Great points. I think if the designers were looking at (in my humble opinion) emulating the Estonia and Singapore case studies then they are on to a great start. I'm thinking also (not sure though as it might just be serendipity) that they are using an iterative process to develop this.
One thing that definitely is a major UP is the use of local IP to develop the payment gateway!
Great start Team Kenya Government!
Regards
*Ali Hussein*
+254 770 906375 / 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
Blog: www.alyhussein.com
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
Sent from my iPad
On Nov 8, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Adam Nelson via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
It looks great and well designed. Two comments:
1. This site should really be https everywhere. I see that the form submits to an https site but how does one validate that ahead of time without looking at the source? 2. I know it's 'eCitizen' but it would be nice if this worked for legal residents as well. Most legal residents don't have an ID that works in that system unfortunately.
Otherwise, great stuff!
Cheers, Adam
-- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Gideon via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
+ Aly, Walu, Dorcas for these observations,
First off i appreciate that we are having such an encouraging conversation about the eCitizen government portal, for those who have had first hand experience on it. I think it is important to see that these comments will help improve the services and also express the fact that it is functional.
I encourage that we continue to give our comments so that we can see the improved use of ICT's in government.
Regards Gideon Rop DCA
> Hi All, > > Wanted to pass a thumbs up to the ICT Authority Team, i used the > eCitizen > portal to apply for a duplicate DL recently. > > All worked out very well. > > Thumbs up to the Pesapal team, that payment went very well! > > NTSA customer service was great. > > Times tower 3rd Floor team was bit slow, i forgive them as i got our > old > paper booklet DL version for the replacement. > > I did not leave my desk to have these going which was even greater! > My > messenger collected the DL painlessly too. > > Kudos to all behind the work. I guess Dr. Matiang'i, Victor, Dr. > Getao, > Harry, Mugambi and entire team. > > -- > Muthoni > > My Blog: http://rugongo.blogspot.com/ > -------------------------------------------- > Mahatma Gandhi once said:- > > First they ignore you, > Then they laugh at you, > Then they fight you, > AND THEN YOU WIN!!! >
Riyaz Thanks. I will contact you offline about the visit. This is progress. Ali Hussein +254 770 906375 / 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad
On Nov 14, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Riyaz Bachani via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Muthoni,
We can arrange a visit for Tuesday to the EADC (KDN Datacenter). It's quite something, and you will see. Ngigi - karibu also - Tuesday morning ?
If more members are interested, we can arrange a second visit with Dan Kwach - the GM there. I'm happy to help facilitate.
Angani, like any other Cloud provider, has to build in enough redundancy - we now have nodes running in 2 separate datacenters, along with using at least 2 ISPs etc. The next step is for whoever is building the applications - to take advantage & incorporate DB and application-level redundancy into the app.
For us, and for businesses as well - high availability is very possible in Kenya - just comes with investing in redundant infrastructure e.g. get 2 ISP links to your office - both don't have to be expensive "corporate" links - add in a JTL or Zuku 10mbps link. Maybe use a BRCK to handle failover to 3G ;)
Riyaz
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: @Ngigi
We are talking applications not websites. And data centres are not about processors, far from it.
Tell me more about the KDN and Safaricom data centre high availability. Real stuff i mean. I am happy to do a site visit.
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote: @Dorcas,
There are very few local websites that would need scalability past Duo CPU / Multi-core setups with good memory so i guess scalability is easily sorted or is a non-issue.
In terms of redundancy, two local sites would pull the trick very well IMO. Say KDN Data Center with Sfaricom Data Center as a hot backup.
Rgds
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: @Adam
I would be keen to learn on any high-availability data centres that can scale locally. Yes, i challenge you give me a site visit!
Although i would prefer the services hosted in a local data centre, i am doubtful that we have any that would scale well.
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Adam Nelson via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: It would also be nice to see it hosted in Kenya (or at least Europe):
18:27:44 ~ $ sudo mtr www.ecitizen.go.ke --report Start: Sat Nov 8 18:29:18 2014 HOST: adam-2.local Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev 1.|-- 192.168.1.1 0.0% 10 1.5 1.8 1.1 3.1 0.3 2.|-- 192.168.201.1 0.0% 10 2.9 8.7 2.8 53.9 15.9 3.|-- 41.57.108.5 0.0% 10 2.4 4.7 2.4 19.2 5.2 4.|-- 41.222.8.217 0.0% 10 157.7 19.9 2.2 157.7 48.6 5.|-- 195.229.27.57 60.0% 10 59.0 59.7 59.0 60.4 0.0 6.|-- 195.229.0.89 0.0% 10 64.2 70.2 60.8 104.0 12.6 7.|-- pos0-15-0-0.palermo17.pal 0.0% 10 147.0 148.7 142.3 172.5 8.6 8.|-- xe-2-3-0.milano51.mil.sea 50.0% 10 165.4 167.7 164.8 177.2 5.3 9.|-- ntt-verio.milano51.mil.se 30.0% 10 171.6 189.6 170.7 228.1 24.2 10.|-- ae-20.r03.amstnl02.nl.bb. 0.0% 10 276.3 276.9 275.7 281.1 1.4 11.|-- ae-4.r23.amstnl02.nl.bb.g 0.0% 10 184.7 188.6 182.8 204.7 6.2 12.|-- ae-7.r21.asbnva02.us.bb.g 40.0% 10 259.4 265.6 258.7 297.6 15.7 13.|-- ae-0.r20.asbnva02.us.bb.g 20.0% 10 264.3 262.6 260.3 266.1 2.1 14.|-- ae-8.r23.nycmny01.us.bb.g 20.0% 10 273.6 273.5 265.7 314.9 16.9 15.|-- ae-3.r20.chcgil09.us.bb.g 0.0% 10 279.2 283.6 278.9 302.5 7.7 16.|-- ae-1.r06.chcgil09.us.bb.g 10.0% 10 279.7 280.5 278.8 285.2 1.8 17.|-- ae-0.gtt-offnet.chcgil09. 10.0% 10 293.1 295.7 288.3 335.4 15.1 18.|-- ae4.cr1.ord6.us.scnet.net 11.1% 9 299.0 294.1 291.7 299.0 2.5 19.|-- ae3.ar7.ord6.us.scnet.net 22.2% 9 297.1 295.1 294.0 297.1 1.2 20.|-- server.perihelionwebdesig 11.1% 9 294.4 295.8 294.4 297.5 0.9 18:29:36 ~ $
-- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote: Adam
Great points. I think if the designers were looking at (in my humble opinion) emulating the Estonia and Singapore case studies then they are on to a great start. I'm thinking also (not sure though as it might just be serendipity) that they are using an iterative process to develop this.
One thing that definitely is a major UP is the use of local IP to develop the payment gateway!
Great start Team Kenya Government!
Regards
Ali Hussein
+254 770 906375 / 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
Sent from my iPad
> On Nov 8, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Adam Nelson via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > It looks great and well designed. Two comments: > > 1. This site should really be https everywhere. I see that the form submits to an https site but how does one validate that ahead of time without looking at the source? > 2. I know it's 'eCitizen' but it would be nice if this worked for legal residents as well. Most legal residents don't have an ID that works in that system unfortunately. > > Otherwise, great stuff! > > Cheers, > Adam > > -- > Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io > Musings: twitter.com/varud > More Musings: varud.com > About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson > >> On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Gideon via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >> >> + Aly, Walu, Dorcas for these observations, >> >> First off i appreciate that we are having such an encouraging conversation about the eCitizen government portal, for those who have had first hand experience on it. I think it is important to see that these comments will help improve the services and also express the fact that it is functional. >> >> I encourage that we continue to give our comments so that we can see the improved use of ICT's in government. >> >> Regards >> Gideon Rop >> DCA >> >> >>> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> Wanted to pass a thumbs up to the ICT Authority Team, i used the eCitizen >>> portal to apply for a duplicate DL recently. >>> >>> All worked out very well. >>> >>> Thumbs up to the Pesapal team, that payment went very well! >>> >>> NTSA customer service was great. >>> >>> Times tower 3rd Floor team was bit slow, i forgive them as i got our old >>> paper booklet DL version for the replacement. >>> >>> I did not leave my desk to have these going which was even greater! My >>> messenger collected the DL painlessly too. >>> >>> Kudos to all behind the work. I guess Dr. Matiang'i, Victor, Dr. Getao, >>> Harry, Mugambi and entire team. >>> >>> -- >>> Muthoni >>> >>> My Blog: http://rugongo.blogspot.com/ >>> -------------------------------------------- >>> Mahatma Gandhi once said:- >>> >>> First they ignore you, >>> Then they laugh at you, >>> Then they fight you, >>> AND THEN YOU WIN!!! >>>
Riyaz, That's fine. Muthoni are you in for Tuesday? Rgds On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Riyaz Bachani via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Muthoni,
We can arrange a visit for Tuesday to the EADC (KDN Datacenter). It's quite something, and you will see. Ngigi - karibu also - Tuesday morning ?
If more members are interested, we can arrange a second visit with Dan Kwach - the GM there. I'm happy to help facilitate.
Angani, like any other Cloud provider, has to build in enough redundancy - we now have nodes running in 2 separate datacenters, along with using at least 2 ISPs etc. The next step is for whoever is building the applications - to take advantage & incorporate DB and application-level redundancy into the app.
For us, and for businesses as well - high availability is very possible in Kenya - just comes with investing in redundant infrastructure e.g. get 2 ISP links to your office - both don't have to be expensive "corporate" links - add in a JTL or Zuku 10mbps link. Maybe use a BRCK to handle failover to 3G ;)
Riyaz
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Ngigi
We are talking applications not websites. And data centres are not about processors, far from it.
Tell me more about the KDN and Safaricom data centre high availability. Real stuff i mean. I am happy to do a site visit.
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
@Dorcas,
There are very few local websites that would need scalability past Duo CPU / Multi-core setups with good memory so i guess scalability is easily sorted or is a non-issue.
In terms of redundancy, two local sites would pull the trick very well IMO. Say KDN Data Center with Sfaricom Data Center as a hot backup.
Rgds
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Adam
I would be keen to learn on any high-availability data centres that can scale locally. Yes, i challenge you give me a site visit!
Although i would prefer the services hosted in a local data centre, i am doubtful that we have any that would scale well.
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Adam Nelson via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
It would also be nice to see it hosted in Kenya (or at least Europe):
18:27:44 ~ $ sudo mtr www.ecitizen.go.ke --report Start: Sat Nov 8 18:29:18 2014 HOST: adam-2.local Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev 1.|-- 192.168.1.1 0.0% 10 1.5 1.8 1.1 3.1 0.3 2.|-- 192.168.201.1 0.0% 10 2.9 8.7 2.8 53.9 15.9 3.|-- 41.57.108.5 0.0% 10 2.4 4.7 2.4 19.2 5.2 4.|-- 41.222.8.217 0.0% 10 157.7 19.9 2.2 157.7 48.6 5.|-- 195.229.27.57 60.0% 10 59.0 59.7 59.0 60.4 0.0 6.|-- 195.229.0.89 0.0% 10 64.2 70.2 60.8 104.0 12.6 7.|-- pos0-15-0-0.palermo17.pal 0.0% 10 147.0 148.7 142.3 172.5 8.6 8.|-- xe-2-3-0.milano51.mil.sea 50.0% 10 165.4 167.7 164.8 177.2 5.3 9.|-- ntt-verio.milano51.mil.se 30.0% 10 171.6 189.6 170.7 228.1 24.2 10.|-- ae-20.r03.amstnl02.nl.bb. 0.0% 10 276.3 276.9 275.7 281.1 1.4 11.|-- ae-4.r23.amstnl02.nl.bb.g 0.0% 10 184.7 188.6 182.8 204.7 6.2 12.|-- ae-7.r21.asbnva02.us.bb.g 40.0% 10 259.4 265.6 258.7 297.6 15.7 13.|-- ae-0.r20.asbnva02.us.bb.g 20.0% 10 264.3 262.6 260.3 266.1 2.1 14.|-- ae-8.r23.nycmny01.us.bb.g 20.0% 10 273.6 273.5 265.7 314.9 16.9 15.|-- ae-3.r20.chcgil09.us.bb.g 0.0% 10 279.2 283.6 278.9 302.5 7.7 16.|-- ae-1.r06.chcgil09.us.bb.g 10.0% 10 279.7 280.5 278.8 285.2 1.8 17.|-- ae-0.gtt-offnet.chcgil09. 10.0% 10 293.1 295.7 288.3 335.4 15.1 18.|-- ae4.cr1.ord6.us.scnet.net 11.1% 9 299.0 294.1 291.7 299.0 2.5 19.|-- ae3.ar7.ord6.us.scnet.net 22.2% 9 297.1 295.1 294.0 297.1 1.2 20.|-- server.perihelionwebdesig 11.1% 9 294.4 295.8 294.4 297.5 0.9 18:29:36 ~ $
-- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Adam
Great points. I think if the designers were looking at (in my humble opinion) emulating the Estonia and Singapore case studies then they are on to a great start. I'm thinking also (not sure though as it might just be serendipity) that they are using an iterative process to develop this.
One thing that definitely is a major UP is the use of local IP to develop the payment gateway!
Great start Team Kenya Government!
Regards
*Ali Hussein*
+254 770 906375 / 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
Blog: www.alyhussein.com
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
Sent from my iPad
On Nov 8, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Adam Nelson via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
It looks great and well designed. Two comments:
1. This site should really be https everywhere. I see that the form submits to an https site but how does one validate that ahead of time without looking at the source? 2. I know it's 'eCitizen' but it would be nice if this worked for legal residents as well. Most legal residents don't have an ID that works in that system unfortunately.
Otherwise, great stuff!
Cheers, Adam
-- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Gideon via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
> > + Aly, Walu, Dorcas for these observations, > > First off i appreciate that we are having such an encouraging > conversation about the eCitizen government portal, for those who have had > first hand experience on it. I think it is important to see that these > comments will help improve the services and also express the fact that it > is functional. > > I encourage that we continue to give our comments so that we can see > the improved use of ICT's in government. > > Regards > Gideon Rop > DCA > > > >> Hi All, >> >> Wanted to pass a thumbs up to the ICT Authority Team, i used the >> eCitizen >> portal to apply for a duplicate DL recently. >> >> All worked out very well. >> >> Thumbs up to the Pesapal team, that payment went very well! >> >> NTSA customer service was great. >> >> Times tower 3rd Floor team was bit slow, i forgive them as i got >> our old >> paper booklet DL version for the replacement. >> >> I did not leave my desk to have these going which was even greater! >> My >> messenger collected the DL painlessly too. >> >> Kudos to all behind the work. I guess Dr. Matiang'i, Victor, Dr. >> Getao, >> Harry, Mugambi and entire team. >> >> -- >> Muthoni >> >> My Blog: http://rugongo.blogspot.com/ >> -------------------------------------------- >> Mahatma Gandhi once said:- >> >> First they ignore you, >> Then they laugh at you, >> Then they fight you, >> AND THEN YOU WIN!!! >>
@Riyaz, What time on Tuesday. Call me. All the same, what i get from you your mail -> Work is still in progress towards high availability data centres in Kenya. I however appreciate the efforts being made. On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Riyaz Bachani <bachani.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
Muthoni,
We can arrange a visit for Tuesday to the EADC (KDN Datacenter). It's quite something, and you will see. Ngigi - karibu also - Tuesday morning ?
If more members are interested, we can arrange a second visit with Dan Kwach - the GM there. I'm happy to help facilitate.
Angani, like any other Cloud provider, has to build in enough redundancy - we now have nodes running in 2 separate datacenters, along with using at least 2 ISPs etc. The next step is for whoever is building the applications - to take advantage & incorporate DB and application-level redundancy into the app.
For us, and for businesses as well - high availability is very possible in Kenya - just comes with investing in redundant infrastructure e.g. get 2 ISP links to your office - both don't have to be expensive "corporate" links - add in a JTL or Zuku 10mbps link. Maybe use a BRCK to handle failover to 3G ;)
Riyaz
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Ngigi
We are talking applications not websites. And data centres are not about processors, far from it.
Tell me more about the KDN and Safaricom data centre high availability. Real stuff i mean. I am happy to do a site visit.
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
@Dorcas,
There are very few local websites that would need scalability past Duo CPU / Multi-core setups with good memory so i guess scalability is easily sorted or is a non-issue.
In terms of redundancy, two local sites would pull the trick very well IMO. Say KDN Data Center with Sfaricom Data Center as a hot backup.
Rgds
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Adam
I would be keen to learn on any high-availability data centres that can scale locally. Yes, i challenge you give me a site visit!
Although i would prefer the services hosted in a local data centre, i am doubtful that we have any that would scale well.
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Adam Nelson via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
It would also be nice to see it hosted in Kenya (or at least Europe):
18:27:44 ~ $ sudo mtr www.ecitizen.go.ke --report Start: Sat Nov 8 18:29:18 2014 HOST: adam-2.local Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev 1.|-- 192.168.1.1 0.0% 10 1.5 1.8 1.1 3.1 0.3 2.|-- 192.168.201.1 0.0% 10 2.9 8.7 2.8 53.9 15.9 3.|-- 41.57.108.5 0.0% 10 2.4 4.7 2.4 19.2 5.2 4.|-- 41.222.8.217 0.0% 10 157.7 19.9 2.2 157.7 48.6 5.|-- 195.229.27.57 60.0% 10 59.0 59.7 59.0 60.4 0.0 6.|-- 195.229.0.89 0.0% 10 64.2 70.2 60.8 104.0 12.6 7.|-- pos0-15-0-0.palermo17.pal 0.0% 10 147.0 148.7 142.3 172.5 8.6 8.|-- xe-2-3-0.milano51.mil.sea 50.0% 10 165.4 167.7 164.8 177.2 5.3 9.|-- ntt-verio.milano51.mil.se 30.0% 10 171.6 189.6 170.7 228.1 24.2 10.|-- ae-20.r03.amstnl02.nl.bb. 0.0% 10 276.3 276.9 275.7 281.1 1.4 11.|-- ae-4.r23.amstnl02.nl.bb.g 0.0% 10 184.7 188.6 182.8 204.7 6.2 12.|-- ae-7.r21.asbnva02.us.bb.g 40.0% 10 259.4 265.6 258.7 297.6 15.7 13.|-- ae-0.r20.asbnva02.us.bb.g 20.0% 10 264.3 262.6 260.3 266.1 2.1 14.|-- ae-8.r23.nycmny01.us.bb.g 20.0% 10 273.6 273.5 265.7 314.9 16.9 15.|-- ae-3.r20.chcgil09.us.bb.g 0.0% 10 279.2 283.6 278.9 302.5 7.7 16.|-- ae-1.r06.chcgil09.us.bb.g 10.0% 10 279.7 280.5 278.8 285.2 1.8 17.|-- ae-0.gtt-offnet.chcgil09. 10.0% 10 293.1 295.7 288.3 335.4 15.1 18.|-- ae4.cr1.ord6.us.scnet.net 11.1% 9 299.0 294.1 291.7 299.0 2.5 19.|-- ae3.ar7.ord6.us.scnet.net 22.2% 9 297.1 295.1 294.0 297.1 1.2 20.|-- server.perihelionwebdesig 11.1% 9 294.4 295.8 294.4 297.5 0.9 18:29:36 ~ $
-- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Adam
Great points. I think if the designers were looking at (in my humble opinion) emulating the Estonia and Singapore case studies then they are on to a great start. I'm thinking also (not sure though as it might just be serendipity) that they are using an iterative process to develop this.
One thing that definitely is a major UP is the use of local IP to develop the payment gateway!
Great start Team Kenya Government!
Regards
*Ali Hussein*
+254 770 906375 / 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
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On Nov 8, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Adam Nelson via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
It looks great and well designed. Two comments:
1. This site should really be https everywhere. I see that the form submits to an https site but how does one validate that ahead of time without looking at the source? 2. I know it's 'eCitizen' but it would be nice if this worked for legal residents as well. Most legal residents don't have an ID that works in that system unfortunately.
Otherwise, great stuff!
Cheers, Adam
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On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Gideon via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
> > + Aly, Walu, Dorcas for these observations, > > First off i appreciate that we are having such an encouraging > conversation about the eCitizen government portal, for those who have had > first hand experience on it. I think it is important to see that these > comments will help improve the services and also express the fact that it > is functional. > > I encourage that we continue to give our comments so that we can see > the improved use of ICT's in government. > > Regards > Gideon Rop > DCA > > > >> Hi All, >> >> Wanted to pass a thumbs up to the ICT Authority Team, i used the >> eCitizen >> portal to apply for a duplicate DL recently. >> >> All worked out very well. >> >> Thumbs up to the Pesapal team, that payment went very well! >> >> NTSA customer service was great. >> >> Times tower 3rd Floor team was bit slow, i forgive them as i got >> our old >> paper booklet DL version for the replacement. >> >> I did not leave my desk to have these going which was even greater! >> My >> messenger collected the DL painlessly too. >> >> Kudos to all behind the work. I guess Dr. Matiang'i, Victor, Dr. >> Getao, >> Harry, Mugambi and entire team. >> >> -- >> Muthoni >> >> My Blog: http://rugongo.blogspot.com/ >> -------------------------------------------- >> Mahatma Gandhi once said:- >> >> First they ignore you, >> Then they laugh at you, >> Then they fight you, >> AND THEN YOU WIN!!! >>
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