Statistics on Kenya Road Accidents
Hello Anyone knows where I can get recent statistics on road accidents in Kenya especially regarding PSV's Personal Vehicles et al. The current statistics are based on articles written by different individuals with conflicting statistics Ohh by the way the Kenya Police website does not have the statistics on traffic accidents online but they have one on Crime (Which is a good thing) Anybody who knows where I can get this info especially from government agencies. PS the Ministry of Roads website is not working -- Warm Regards Henry Cell +254721899572 _______________________________________________________________________________ *Every morning in Africa, a gazelle wakes up, It knows it must run faster than the fastest lion or it will be killed. Every morning a lion wakes up, it knows it must outrun the slowest gazelle or it will starve to death. It doesn't matter whether you are a gazelle or a lion. When the sun comes up, you better start running. - In "The World is Flat" by Thomas L. Friedman*
Hello The ministry of transport has the statistics and receivesstatistics daily from the traffic department.. contact them they might help you . On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:47 PM, Henry Okatch <hokatch@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello
Anyone knows where I can get recent statistics on road accidents in Kenya especially regarding PSV's Personal Vehicles et al. The current statistics are based on articles written by different individuals with conflicting statistics Ohh by the way the Kenya Police website does not have the statistics on traffic accidents online but they have one on Crime (Which is a good thing)
Anybody who knows where I can get this info especially from government agencies. PS the Ministry of Roads website is not working
-- Warm Regards Henry Cell +254721899572
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Hello The ministry of transport has the statistics and receivesstatistics daily from the traffic department..
contact them they might help you .
Someone would have thought that these stats would be published on the MoT website (if there is any). Sometimes I think govt ministries just run dead websites - it's fashionable to have a website in this Information Age, yes, but without "living information", it's so dead useless. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
Its Interesting that you mentioned the dead websites. Still no luck with the statistics and the Police traffic dept which ideally should have this info does not have it on soft. Rgds Henry On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 7:10 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 09:00, Twahir Mohamed <tmohamed@ict.go.ke> wrote:
Hello The ministry of transport has the statistics and receivesstatistics daily from the traffic department..
contact them they might help you .
Someone would have thought that these stats would be published on the MoT website (if there is any). Sometimes I think govt ministries just run dead websites - it's fashionable to have a website in this Information Age, yes, but without "living information", it's so dead useless.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
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On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 23:02, Henry Okatch <hokatch@gmail.com> wrote:
Its Interesting that you mentioned the dead websites.
Still no luck with the statistics and the Police traffic dept which ideally should have this info does not have it on soft.
You want to hassle the MoT for the data, or Traffic Police HQs. In both cases, you are likely to encounter some very useless questions and time-wasting before you get the data. Better walk to the office you've opted for. Phone calls will not help. And just if you did not know - there are not any computers in the Police offices. The last time I checked, computers were prestigious additions gracing the furniture inside senior officers' offices - mostly for posing with during photo shoots. There is no active use of computers for daily work within the Police. I could be wrong, but trust me - I was there. Everything is done on paper and follows a specific channel (with no thinking involved). Police reforms have a long way to go. Something like Vision 3020! All you have to do is look at the Police website and take time to read the sketchy data in order to convince yourself on how far they are from the Information Age. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
At least, good people, the Kenya Police website isn't currently hacked into :) Have a lovely Friday, Andrea On 1 April 2011 09:38, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 23:02, Henry Okatch <hokatch@gmail.com> wrote:
Its Interesting that you mentioned the dead websites.
Still no luck with the statistics and the Police traffic dept which ideally should have this info does not have it on soft.
You want to hassle the MoT for the data, or Traffic Police HQs. In both cases, you are likely to encounter some very useless questions and time-wasting before you get the data. Better walk to the office you've opted for. Phone calls will not help.
And just if you did not know - there are not any computers in the Police offices. The last time I checked, computers were prestigious additions gracing the furniture inside senior officers' offices - mostly for posing with during photo shoots. There is no active use of computers for daily work within the Police. I could be wrong, but trust me - I was there. Everything is done on paper and follows a specific channel (with no thinking involved). Police reforms have a long way to go. Something like Vision 3020! All you have to do is look at the Police website and take time to read the sketchy data in order to convince yourself on how far they are from the Information Age.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
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I think what matters is how useful the information availed there is to the public. I was on the website for some hours two days ago, in an attempt to trace someone I knew in the force, and I was quite disappointed with the outdated information I got there. I still haven't picked up myself into the 2nd leg of trying to trace the person - an officer. It would be better if they had valid information on the website. On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 09:56, Andrea Bohnstedt < andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com> wrote:
At least, good people, the Kenya Police website isn't currently hacked into :)
Have a lovely Friday, Andrea
On 1 April 2011 09:38, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 23:02, Henry Okatch <hokatch@gmail.com> wrote:
Its Interesting that you mentioned the dead websites.
Still no luck with the statistics and the Police traffic dept which ideally should have this info does not have it on soft.
You want to hassle the MoT for the data, or Traffic Police HQs. In both cases, you are likely to encounter some very useless questions and time-wasting before you get the data. Better walk to the office you've opted for. Phone calls will not help.
And just if you did not know - there are not any computers in the Police offices. The last time I checked, computers were prestigious additions gracing the furniture inside senior officers' offices - mostly for posing with during photo shoots. There is no active use of computers for daily work within the Police. I could be wrong, but trust me - I was there. Everything is done on paper and follows a specific channel (with no thinking involved). Police reforms have a long way to go. Something like Vision 3020! All you have to do is look at the Police website and take time to read the sketchy data in order to convince yourself on how far they are from the Information Age.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
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It is very unfortunate that in this day and age, government agencies still cannot take advantage of ICT to relay some relevant information (And here am talking about statistics of whatever nature) Even if it is a subscription service, it would still be helpful. I have for the past few months been following keenly and trying to gather information about recent road accident statistics and the only statistics available are as of 2002! And this was based on a research done by UON and KU professers Am sure there are government officials from various ministries on this platform, following silently, Can somebody kindly have the hardcopy of those reports/research/statics et al, being put on soft and made available online! It sometimes become very frustrating being thrown from one dept to another when all you wanted was just information. Rgds Henry On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Andrea Bohnstedt < andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com> wrote:
At least, good people, the Kenya Police website isn't currently hacked into :)
Have a lovely Friday, Andrea
On 1 April 2011 09:38, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 23:02, Henry Okatch <hokatch@gmail.com> wrote:
Its Interesting that you mentioned the dead websites.
Still no luck with the statistics and the Police traffic dept which ideally should have this info does not have it on soft.
You want to hassle the MoT for the data, or Traffic Police HQs. In both cases, you are likely to encounter some very useless questions and time-wasting before you get the data. Better walk to the office you've opted for. Phone calls will not help.
And just if you did not know - there are not any computers in the Police offices. The last time I checked, computers were prestigious additions gracing the furniture inside senior officers' offices - mostly for posing with during photo shoots. There is no active use of computers for daily work within the Police. I could be wrong, but trust me - I was there. Everything is done on paper and follows a specific channel (with no thinking involved). Police reforms have a long way to go. Something like Vision 3020! All you have to do is look at the Police website and take time to read the sketchy data in order to convince yourself on how far they are from the Information Age.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
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Henry, It will be polite to ask if you can have access to data rather than starting with complaining. You know very well we are woking on Freedom of Information Bill as well as an open data portal. I have discussed the two issues here. The Government is digitalizing much of the data which of course shall be available to you. In most offices what you will be asked is what you need the data for. This actually is not bad but just to know who and why they need the data. I have taken the liberty to request the data. Until FOI is through, you need a bilateral with me early Monday morning at 1am so that I can send you to an appropriate officer. There is no need to haul insults at the Government before you even ask in a civil way. As Dwight Eisenhower said "Pessimism never won any battle". Have an optimist weekend. Regards Ndemo.
It is very unfortunate that in this day and age, government agencies still cannot take advantage of ICT to relay some relevant information (And here am talking about statistics of whatever nature)
Even if it is a subscription service, it would still be helpful. I have for the past few months been following keenly and trying to gather information about recent road accident statistics and the only statistics available are as of 2002! And this was based on a research done by UON and KU professers
Am sure there are government officials from various ministries on this platform, following silently, Can somebody kindly have the hardcopy of those reports/research/statics et al, being put on soft and made available online!
It sometimes become very frustrating being thrown from one dept to another when all you wanted was just information.
Rgds Henry
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Andrea Bohnstedt < andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com> wrote:
At least, good people, the Kenya Police website isn't currently hacked into :)
Have a lovely Friday, Andrea
On 1 April 2011 09:38, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 23:02, Henry Okatch <hokatch@gmail.com> wrote:
Its Interesting that you mentioned the dead websites.
Still no luck with the statistics and the Police traffic dept which ideally should have this info does not have it on soft.
You want to hassle the MoT for the data, or Traffic Police HQs. In both cases, you are likely to encounter some very useless questions and time-wasting before you get the data. Better walk to the office you've opted for. Phone calls will not help.
And just if you did not know - there are not any computers in the Police offices. The last time I checked, computers were prestigious additions gracing the furniture inside senior officers' offices - mostly for posing with during photo shoots. There is no active use of computers for daily work within the Police. I could be wrong, but trust me - I was there. Everything is done on paper and follows a specific channel (with no thinking involved). Police reforms have a long way to go. Something like Vision 3020! All you have to do is look at the Police website and take time to read the sketchy data in order to convince yourself on how far they are from the Information Age.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
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Thank you bwana PS for your feedback But I think you misunderstood my main concern I mentioned here that the Police website does have Crime reports with the latest statistics as late as 2010. While this may look like a criticism I believe and stand to be corrected that it does not make sense to have half information and leave some out. I do know the police traffic dept does receive regularly update information on accidents and other incidences my issue is why can't this also be made available online? I appreciate that the govt is working on improving and digitizing the current delivery sytem of information but we cannot runaway from some of the inefficiency that we face daily when we visit government agencies! My frustrations are based on experiences and if this platform will help the govt do something about it then so be it. And my apologies if in the course of airing my grievances I may have insulted anybody that was never my intention. Rgds Henry On 4/1/11, bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Henry, It will be polite to ask if you can have access to data rather than starting with complaining. You know very well we are woking on Freedom of Information Bill as well as an open data portal. I have discussed the two issues here. The Government is digitalizing much of the data which of course shall be available to you.
In most offices what you will be asked is what you need the data for. This actually is not bad but just to know who and why they need the data.
I have taken the liberty to request the data. Until FOI is through, you need a bilateral with me early Monday morning at 1am so that I can send you to an appropriate officer. There is no need to haul insults at the Government before you even ask in a civil way. As Dwight Eisenhower said "Pessimism never won any battle". Have an optimist weekend.
Regards
Ndemo.
It is very unfortunate that in this day and age, government agencies still cannot take advantage of ICT to relay some relevant information (And here am talking about statistics of whatever nature)
Even if it is a subscription service, it would still be helpful. I have for the past few months been following keenly and trying to gather information about recent road accident statistics and the only statistics available are as of 2002! And this was based on a research done by UON and KU professers
Am sure there are government officials from various ministries on this platform, following silently, Can somebody kindly have the hardcopy of those reports/research/statics et al, being put on soft and made available online!
It sometimes become very frustrating being thrown from one dept to another when all you wanted was just information.
Rgds Henry
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Andrea Bohnstedt < andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com> wrote:
At least, good people, the Kenya Police website isn't currently hacked into :)
Have a lovely Friday, Andrea
On 1 April 2011 09:38, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 23:02, Henry Okatch <hokatch@gmail.com> wrote:
Its Interesting that you mentioned the dead websites.
Still no luck with the statistics and the Police traffic dept which ideally should have this info does not have it on soft.
You want to hassle the MoT for the data, or Traffic Police HQs. In both cases, you are likely to encounter some very useless questions and time-wasting before you get the data. Better walk to the office you've opted for. Phone calls will not help.
And just if you did not know - there are not any computers in the Police offices. The last time I checked, computers were prestigious additions gracing the furniture inside senior officers' offices - mostly for posing with during photo shoots. There is no active use of computers for daily work within the Police. I could be wrong, but trust me - I was there. Everything is done on paper and follows a specific channel (with no thinking involved). Police reforms have a long way to go. Something like Vision 3020! All you have to do is look at the Police website and take time to read the sketchy data in order to convince yourself on how far they are from the Information Age.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
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-- Warm Regards Henry Cell +254721899572 _______________________________________________________________________________ *Every morning in Africa, a gazelle wakes up, It knows it must run faster than the fastest lion or it will be killed. Every morning a lion wakes up, it knows it must outrun the slowest gazelle or it will starve to death. It doesn't matter whether you are a gazelle or a lion. When the sun comes up, you better start running. - In "The World is Flat" by Thomas L. Friedman*
Henry, It will be polite to ask if you can have access to data rather than starting with complaining. You know very well we are woking on Freedom of Information Bill as well as an open data portal. I have discussed the two issues here. The Government is digitalizing much of the data which of course shall be available to you. In most offices what you will be asked is what you need the data for. This actually is not bad but just to know who and why they need the data. I have taken the liberty to request the data. Until FOI is through, you need a bilateral with me early Monday morning at 1am so that I can send you to an appropriate officer. There is no need to haul insults at the Government before you even ask in a civil way. As Dwight Eisenhower said "Pessimism never won any battle". Have an optimist weekend. Regards Ndemo.
It is very unfortunate that in this day and age, government agencies still cannot take advantage of ICT to relay some relevant information (And here am talking about statistics of whatever nature)
Even if it is a subscription service, it would still be helpful. I have for the past few months been following keenly and trying to gather information about recent road accident statistics and the only statistics available are as of 2002! And this was based on a research done by UON and KU professers
Am sure there are government officials from various ministries on this platform, following silently, Can somebody kindly have the hardcopy of those reports/research/statics et al, being put on soft and made available online!
It sometimes become very frustrating being thrown from one dept to another when all you wanted was just information.
Rgds Henry
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Andrea Bohnstedt < andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com> wrote:
At least, good people, the Kenya Police website isn't currently hacked into :)
Have a lovely Friday, Andrea
On 1 April 2011 09:38, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 23:02, Henry Okatch <hokatch@gmail.com> wrote:
Its Interesting that you mentioned the dead websites.
Still no luck with the statistics and the Police traffic dept which ideally should have this info does not have it on soft.
You want to hassle the MoT for the data, or Traffic Police HQs. In both cases, you are likely to encounter some very useless questions and time-wasting before you get the data. Better walk to the office you've opted for. Phone calls will not help.
And just if you did not know - there are not any computers in the Police offices. The last time I checked, computers were prestigious additions gracing the furniture inside senior officers' offices - mostly for posing with during photo shoots. There is no active use of computers for daily work within the Police. I could be wrong, but trust me - I was there. Everything is done on paper and follows a specific channel (with no thinking involved). Police reforms have a long way to go. Something like Vision 3020! All you have to do is look at the Police website and take time to read the sketchy data in order to convince yourself on how far they are from the Information Age.
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Twahir Mohamed