Fw: Yawe migrates to Digital TV
Hi, I will give you a narrative walk through but time permitting I should be able to do a video clip showing how to go digital. 1. Buy certified set top box from an approved reseller 2. Remove set top box (STB) from the packing 3. Place next to TV set (99.99% of the chances are that it will be an analogue set) 4. Remove the aerial/antenna cable currently connected to you TV, DVD or VCR and connect it to the STB 5. Connect one end of the provided RCA cable (Yellow for Video, White and Red for Audio) to the corresponding ports on the TV and the other end to the STB 6. Slot in the Smart Card into the STB 7. Connect the STB power cables to the mains and switch it on 8. Switch on your TV 9. Using your remote or the control panel set your input source to COMPOSITE if you do not have this just set your TV to auto tune and you should pick the STB signal on one of the channels. 10. Using the STB's remote begin surfing the channels 11. You have gone digital, welcome to the future of broadcast. Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya@gmail.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wednesday, 27 June 2012, 14:14 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Yawe migrates to Digital TV Can someone please explain how to get (tune) these digital channels? Please start from the TV antenna, ariel, set box, etc on a I. Non Digital TV II. A Digital TV. On Jun 24, 2012 10:18 PM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote: Robert,
Thank you for being a great Ambassador. With competition you are going to see the price of set top drom to as little as Ksh. 500. I hear some with conditional access will be offering popular bouque of some 50 channels for $2 (two) dollars a month.
I know of new venacular entrants coming in in less than a month. More content will also come from edutainment which in my view from what I have seen is world class. Perhaps this may be the greatest opportunity to revive our own lanuages.
Regards
Ndemo.
Hi Listers,
Wanted to inform you that on the 19th of June 2012 I migrated from analogue to digital TV reception, the signal is crystal clear not like the graining images I have been accustomed to over the past many years. The move was necessitated by the need for some of my house-mates to watch Tusker Project Fame, I went VoD many months ago.
To put an issue to rest especially those in the media who have been spreading malicious roamers about the migration that I did not buy a digital TV set. All I bought was a decoder for 2,999/- which I plugged into old faithful and "pap" I can now receive clear digital signal.
It was encouraging to note that all the current free to air channels, some of which I did not even know existed, have jumped onto the transmission including NTV, KTN and Citizen which makes you wonder what all those legalise was about. The quality of the various channels is glaring, something that was not visible with the analogue signal.
To get a more holistic experience I also paid for the basic bouquet for 500/- a month, the offering was not disappointing but the number of channels is mind boggling especially having been there during the days of single channel VOK (Voice of Kenya). I only wish they could allow me create my own selection of channels to receive, the standard offerings make me feel like I am in a straight jacket. Yes, this is what happens when you enlighten people, 2 days ago I was comfortable receiving 6 horrible free to air channels today I am demanding a la Carte.
All of you out there who where saving to buy expensive digital TV sets you can take 2,999/- of that money and migrate to digital TV today.
Regards
PS. I just took the device home handed over to my son who within 15 minutes had it up and running, held on to the remote. Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
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Robert / Washington, Thanks for the info. For sure, a good number of us will be helped by this. :) On Jun 28, 2012 7:29 PM, "robert yawe" <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi,
I will give you a narrative walk through but time permitting I should be able to do a video clip showing how to go digital.
1. Buy certified set top box from an approved reseller 2. Remove set top box (STB) from the packing 3. Place next to TV set (99.99% of the chances are that it will be an analogue set) 4. Remove the aerial/antenna cable currently connected to you TV, DVD or VCR and connect it to the STB 5. Connect one end of the provided RCA cable (Yellow for Video, White and Red for Audio) to the corresponding ports on the TV and the other end to the STB 6. Slot in the Smart Card into the STB 7. Connect the STB power cables to the mains and switch it on 8. Switch on your TV 9. Using your remote or the control panel set your input source to COMPOSITE if you do not have this just set your TV to auto tune and you should pick the STB signal on one of the channels. 10. Using the STB's remote begin surfing the channels 11. You have gone digital, welcome to the future of broadcast.
Regards
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ------------------------------ *From:* S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya@gmail.com> *To:* robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Wednesday, 27 June 2012, 14:14 *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Yawe migrates to Digital TV
Can someone please explain how to get (tune) these digital channels? Please start from the TV antenna, ariel, set box, etc on a I. Non Digital TV II. A Digital TV. On Jun 24, 2012 10:18 PM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Robert, Thank you for being a great Ambassador. With competition you are going to see the price of set top drom to as little as Ksh. 500. I hear some with conditional access will be offering popular bouque of some 50 channels for $2 (two) dollars a month.
I know of new venacular entrants coming in in less than a month. More content will also come from edutainment which in my view from what I have seen is world class. Perhaps this may be the greatest opportunity to revive our own lanuages.
Regards
Ndemo.
Hi Listers,
Wanted to inform you that on the 19th of June 2012 I migrated from analogue to digital TV reception, the signal is crystal clear not like the graining images I have been accustomed to over the past many years. The move was necessitated by the need for some of my house-mates to watch Tusker Project Fame, I went VoD many months ago.
To put an issue to rest especially those in the media who have been spreading malicious roamers about the migration that I did not buy a digital TV set. All I bought was a decoder for 2,999/- which I plugged into old faithful and "pap" I can now receive clear digital signal.
It was encouraging to note that all the current free to air channels, some of which I did not even know existed, have jumped onto the transmission including NTV, KTN and Citizen which makes you wonder what all those legalise was about. The quality of the various channels is glaring, something that was not visible with the analogue signal.
To get a more holistic experience I also paid for the basic bouquet for 500/- a month, the offering was not disappointing but the number of channels is mind boggling especially having been there during the days of single channel VOK (Voice of Kenya). I only wish they could allow me create my own selection of channels to receive, the standard offerings make me feel like I am in a straight jacket. Yes, this is what happens when you enlighten people, 2 days ago I was comfortable receiving 6 horrible free to air channels today I am demanding a la Carte.
All of you out there who where saving to buy expensive digital TV sets you can take 2,999/- of that money and migrate to digital TV today.
Regards
PS. I just took the device home handed over to my son who within 15 minutes had it up and running, held on to the remote.
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
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Robert, on no. 6 below: <quote> 6. Slot in the Smart Card into the STB </quote> Does this mean you could for arguments sake buy a smart card from another vendor - not the one you bought the decoder from and insert it on the slot? If I buy a GoTV decoder can a smart card from SmartTV be used on it to descramble their content? Also is there a standards document somewhere that the government/KEBS uses to certify the decoders? Lastly is there any localization; like can I get the EPG (electronic program Guide) in Kikuyu or Swahili? The last one might not be a requirement now but if we go to some rural areas, this will start to make more sense. Does any one have a link or info on the actual government position on soem of the issues above, a policy paper maybe? Im trying to answer questions like what interfaces MUST be on a decoder for this market, is standardization of the hardware across vendors a requirement? etc etc. Gitau On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 7:15 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi,
I will give you a narrative walk through but time permitting I should be able to do a video clip showing how to go digital.
1. Buy certified set top box from an approved reseller 2. Remove set top box (STB) from the packing 3. Place next to TV set (99.99% of the chances are that it will be an analogue set) 4. Remove the aerial/antenna cable currently connected to you TV, DVD or VCR and connect it to the STB 5. Connect one end of the provided RCA cable (Yellow for Video, White and Red for Audio) to the corresponding ports on the TV and the other end to the STB 6. Slot in the Smart Card into the STB 7. Connect the STB power cables to the mains and switch it on 8. Switch on your TV 9. Using your remote or the control panel set your input source to COMPOSITE if you do not have this just set your TV to auto tune and you should pick the STB signal on one of the channels. 10. Using the STB's remote begin surfing the channels 11. You have gone digital, welcome to the future of broadcast.
Regards
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ------------------------------ *From:* S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya@gmail.com> *To:* robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Wednesday, 27 June 2012, 14:14 *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Yawe migrates to Digital TV
Can someone please explain how to get (tune) these digital channels? Please start from the TV antenna, ariel, set box, etc on a I. Non Digital TV II. A Digital TV. On Jun 24, 2012 10:18 PM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Robert, Thank you for being a great Ambassador. With competition you are going to see the price of set top drom to as little as Ksh. 500. I hear some with conditional access will be offering popular bouque of some 50 channels for $2 (two) dollars a month.
I know of new venacular entrants coming in in less than a month. More content will also come from edutainment which in my view from what I have seen is world class. Perhaps this may be the greatest opportunity to revive our own lanuages.
Regards
Ndemo.
Hi Listers,
Wanted to inform you that on the 19th of June 2012 I migrated from analogue to digital TV reception, the signal is crystal clear not like the graining images I have been accustomed to over the past many years. The move was necessitated by the need for some of my house-mates to watch Tusker Project Fame, I went VoD many months ago.
To put an issue to rest especially those in the media who have been spreading malicious roamers about the migration that I did not buy a digital TV set. All I bought was a decoder for 2,999/- which I plugged into old faithful and "pap" I can now receive clear digital signal.
It was encouraging to note that all the current free to air channels, some of which I did not even know existed, have jumped onto the transmission including NTV, KTN and Citizen which makes you wonder what all those legalise was about. The quality of the various channels is glaring, something that was not visible with the analogue signal.
To get a more holistic experience I also paid for the basic bouquet for 500/- a month, the offering was not disappointing but the number of channels is mind boggling especially having been there during the days of single channel VOK (Voice of Kenya). I only wish they could allow me create my own selection of channels to receive, the standard offerings make me feel like I am in a straight jacket. Yes, this is what happens when you enlighten people, 2 days ago I was comfortable receiving 6 horrible free to air channels today I am demanding a la Carte.
All of you out there who where saving to buy expensive digital TV sets you can take 2,999/- of that money and migrate to digital TV today.
Regards
PS. I just took the device home handed over to my son who within 15 minutes had it up and running, held on to the remote.
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
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John, Unfortunately I might not be the best person to answer most of your questions but I presume that their are many on this list who are better qualified and I hope they will come forward and give us a response. In my understanding the STB should be a standard device that would provide access to the free to air channels, the smart card is meant to enable the descrambling of pay channels which would suggest that any providers smart card should be able to work. My position is taken from the issue of digital ready TVs which I believe come with a generic smart card reader otherwise you would need to buy a different TV set for each provider. I believe this issue was left silent in the policy document so as to allow the flexibility for the early entrants to recoup part of their investment from sale of the decorders. That's my two cents on the issue Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Tuesday, 10 July 2012, 9:32 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fw: Yawe migrates to Digital TV Robert, on no. 6 below: <quote> 6. Slot in the Smart Card into the STB </quote> Does this mean you could for arguments sake buy a smart card from another vendor - not the one you bought the decoder from and insert it on the slot? If I buy a GoTV decoder can a smart card from SmartTV be used on it to descramble their content? Also is there a standards document somewhere that the government/KEBS uses to certify the decoders? Lastly is there any localization; like can I get the EPG (electronic program Guide) in Kikuyu or Swahili? The last one might not be a requirement now but if we go to some rural areas, this will start to make more sense. Does any one have a link or info on the actual government position on soem of the issues above, a policy paper maybe? Im trying to answer questions like what interfaces MUST be on a decoder for this market, is standardization of the hardware across vendors a requirement? etc etc. Gitau On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 7:15 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: Hi,
I will give you a narrative walk through but time permitting I should be able to do a video clip showing how to go digital.
1. Buy certified set top box from an approved reseller 2. Remove set top box (STB) from the packing 3. Place next to TV set (99.99% of the chances are that it will be an analogue set) 4. Remove the aerial/antenna cable currently connected to you TV, DVD or VCR and connect it to the STB 5. Connect one end of the provided RCA cable (Yellow for Video, White and Red for Audio) to the corresponding ports on the TV and the other end to the STB 6. Slot in the Smart Card into the STB 7. Connect the STB power cables to the mains and switch it on 8. Switch on your TV 9. Using your remote or the control panel set your input source to COMPOSITE if you do not have this just set your TV to auto tune and you should pick the STB signal on one of the channels. 10. Using the STB's remote begin surfing the channels 11. You have gone digital, welcome to the future of broadcast.
Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
________________________________ From: S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya@gmail.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wednesday, 27 June 2012, 14:14 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Yawe migrates to Digital TV
Can someone please explain how to get (tune) these digital channels? Please start from the TV antenna, ariel, set box, etc on a I. Non Digital TV II. A Digital TV. On Jun 24, 2012 10:18 PM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Robert,
Thank you for being a great Ambassador. With competition you are going to see the price of set top drom to as little as Ksh. 500. I hear some with conditional access will be offering popular bouque of some 50 channels for $2 (two) dollars a month.
I know of new venacular entrants coming in in less than a month. More content will also come from edutainment which in my view from what I have seen is world class. Perhaps this may be the greatest opportunity to revive our own lanuages.
Regards
Ndemo.
Hi Listers,
Wanted to inform you that on the 19th of June 2012 I migrated from analogue to digital TV reception, the signal is crystal clear not like the graining images I have been accustomed to over the past many years. The move was necessitated by the need for some of my house-mates to watch Tusker Project Fame, I went VoD many months ago.
To put an issue to rest especially those in the media who have been spreading malicious roamers about the migration that I did not buy a digital TV set. All I bought was a decoder for 2,999/- which I plugged into old faithful and "pap" I can now receive clear digital signal.
It was encouraging to note that all the current free to air channels, some of which I did not even know existed, have jumped onto the transmission including NTV, KTN and Citizen which makes you wonder what all those legalise was about. The quality of the various channels is glaring, something that was not visible with the analogue signal.
To get a more holistic experience I also paid for the basic bouquet for 500/- a month, the offering was not disappointing but the number of channels is mind boggling especially having been there during the days of single channel VOK (Voice of Kenya). I only wish they could allow me create my own selection of channels to receive, the standard offerings make me feel like I am in a straight jacket. Yes, this is what happens when you enlighten people, 2 days ago I was comfortable receiving 6 horrible free to air channels today I am demanding a la Carte.
All of you out there who where saving to buy expensive digital TV sets you can take 2,999/- of that money and migrate to digital TV today.
Regards
PS. I just took the device home handed over to my son who within 15 minutes had it up and running, held on to the remote. Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
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members, there is a healthy discussion thriving here and on other ICT fora/platforms about the digital migration. yet quite frankly, this enthusiasm is not matched by concrete steps on the ground. for example, can anyone tell me where to get that decoder/top box in the whole of nairobi for receiving the signet (kbc signal where all local broadcasters seem to have moved? APPARENTLY there is no supply in town, as at my last check this past weekend (despite the government having waived duty on the gadgets in this year's budget). Also, it seems like the service is being charged a monthly fee - for those who want to subscribe to PANG. was that the intention of the govt? so then what happens to the whole notion of competition and the expected quality service if kbc is the sole provider of the signal? and do kenyans understand that the licence to pang was not free to air but pay to view? two, there seems to be confusion about the type of decoder to acquire if, as i gather, the types could be different for subscribers to PANG, SIGNET or the one that the media owners consortium will be gifted with. Is it T1 or T2 decoder? three, the signal distributors don't have enough capacity yet - the signal only being available so far in nairobi and environs and (soon) Mombasa. which leads me to wonder whether the intense promotion/adverstising campaign by cck is not going to waste. shouldn't the switch be instant and nationwide? just wondering. david makali _______________ "If my doctor told me I had only six minutes to live, I wouldn't brood. I'd type a little faster." — Isaac Asimo, Columbian Author and Scientist _______________ PO Box 3234 00200 Nairobi, Kenya cell: +254 722 517 540 ________________________________
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 3:09 PM, David Makali <dmakali@yahoo.com> wrote:
*members, there is a healthy discussion thriving here and on other ICT fora/platforms about the digital migration. yet quite frankly, this enthusiasm is not matched by concrete steps on the ground. for example, can anyone tell me where to get that decoder/top box in the whole of nairobi for receiving the signet (kbc signal where all local broadcasters seem to have moved? APPARENTLY there is no supply in town, as at my last check this past weekend (despite the government having waived duty on the gadgets in this year's budget). Also, it seems like the service is being charged a monthly fee - for those who want to subscribe to PANG. was that the intention of the govt? so then what happens to the whole notion of competition and the expected quality service if kbc is the sole provider of the signal? and do kenyans understand that the licence to pang was not free to air but pay to view? *
@David, what is PANG?
* two, there seems to be confusion about the type of decoder to acquire if, as i gather, the types could be different for subscribers to PANG, SIGNET or the one that the media owners consortium will be gifted with. Is it T1 or T2 decoder? *
This was stated clearly by the secretariat. It has to be T2.
* three, the signal distributors don't have enough capacity yet - the signal only being available so far in nairobi and environs and (soon) Mombasa. *
I think it is not the capacity, but rather the resources to roll out nationally.
* which leads me to wonder whether the intense promotion/adverstising campaign by cck is not going to waste. shouldn't the switch be instant and nationwide? *
No. The roll-out is going to be staggered and as such the switch is NOT going to be instant. What I gather (in the press/media) is that the switchover will start with Nairobi, then other towns. What I don't understand is how the govt and CCK are looking at this: Obviously, the STBs are not gonna get to the populace in time despite the promotion/advertising. I suppose the govt/CCK let Posta handle import and distribution of the STBs through their network. It would make the process a little easier... and probably faster. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler.
On a different thread (several threads on this list actually) what we all seem to be asking for is where the documents governing this migration are. Im keen on the STB hardware/software requirements if any, what interfaces MUST be on each STB, is interoperability of the hardware a requirement so I dont have to buy multiple STB's? if KEBS or some other certifying body is involved, exactly what do they look for at a minimum? Robert raised the question of smart TV's, is internet TV or any other disrupting technology a part of this? questions questions... gitau On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 3:09 PM, David Makali <dmakali@yahoo.com> wrote:
*members, there is a healthy discussion thriving here and on other ICT fora/platforms about the digital migration. yet quite frankly, this enthusiasm is not matched by concrete steps on the ground. for example, can anyone tell me where to get that decoder/top box in the whole of nairobi for receiving the signet (kbc signal where all local broadcasters seem to have moved? APPARENTLY there is no supply in town, as at my last check this past weekend (despite the government having waived duty on the gadgets in this year's budget). Also, it seems like the service is being charged a monthly fee - for those who want to subscribe to PANG. was that the intention of the govt? so then what happens to the whole notion of competition and the expected quality service if kbc is the sole provider of the signal? and do kenyans understand that the licence to pang was not free to air but pay to view?
two, there seems to be confusion about the type of decoder to acquire if, as i gather, the types could be different for subscribers to PANG, SIGNET or the one that the media owners consortium will be gifted with. Is it T1 or T2 decoder?
three, the signal distributors don't have enough capacity yet - the signal only being available so far in nairobi and environs and (soon) Mombasa.
which leads me to wonder whether the intense promotion/adverstising campaign by cck is not going to waste. shouldn't the switch be instant and nationwide?
just wondering. david makali *
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Gitau, All the requirements you ask were published. If none of the Digital Migration Committee member on this list does not post them, I will by tomorrow. All imports of STBs must be type approved by CCK and must meet the minimum requirement. KEBS was given the requirements and cannot release anything that does not meet local standards. Ndemo.
On a different thread (several threads on this list actually) what we all seem to be asking for is where the documents governing this migration are. Im keen on the STB hardware/software requirements if any, what interfaces MUST be on each STB, is interoperability of the hardware a requirement so I dont have to buy multiple STB's? if KEBS or some other certifying body is involved, exactly what do they look for at a minimum? Robert raised the question of smart TV's, is internet TV or any other disrupting technology a part of this? questions questions...
gitau
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 3:09 PM, David Makali <dmakali@yahoo.com> wrote:
*members, there is a healthy discussion thriving here and on other ICT fora/platforms about the digital migration. yet quite frankly, this enthusiasm is not matched by concrete steps on the ground. for example, can anyone tell me where to get that decoder/top box in the whole of nairobi for receiving the signet (kbc signal where all local broadcasters seem to have moved? APPARENTLY there is no supply in town, as at my last check this past weekend (despite the government having waived duty on the gadgets in this year's budget). Also, it seems like the service is being charged a monthly fee - for those who want to subscribe to PANG. was that the intention of the govt? so then what happens to the whole notion of competition and the expected quality service if kbc is the sole provider of the signal? and do kenyans understand that the licence to pang was not free to air but pay to view?
two, there seems to be confusion about the type of decoder to acquire if, as i gather, the types could be different for subscribers to PANG, SIGNET or the one that the media owners consortium will be gifted with. Is it T1 or T2 decoder?
three, the signal distributors don't have enough capacity yet - the signal only being available so far in nairobi and environs and (soon) Mombasa.
which leads me to wonder whether the intense promotion/adverstising campaign by cck is not going to waste. shouldn't the switch be instant and nationwide?
just wondering. david makali *
_______________
"If my doctor told me I had only six minutes to live, I wouldn't brood. I'd type a little faster." Isaac Asimo, Columbian Author and Scientist _______________
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David, You raise great questions that the Digital Transition Committee (DTC) needs to resolve quickly. However, it also critical that more entrepreneurs take advantage of the emerging opportunities in order to deal a blow on the premium charged when supply is constrained. It used to be that the Government could buy for consumers but it always distorted the market for reasons we all know. This time we left it to the market forces. Ordinarirly the prices should drop as supply increases but in this case there is a wait and see situation. DTC also must at this time give information to the public constantly (I shall ensure that this happens). Free to air channels must be free in all platforms. Here it means that if you get a STB you can hook it and view all Free to air channels. What most people are doing is buy STBs from Multiplex Operators (Signet and Pan Africa) with various payment plans that often lead to a complete shut down if the STB is has not been fully paid for. It is important that consumer asks questions with respect to the full cost of the STB and what plan they are on as well as knowing whether they can continue to watch Free to Air even if they do not subscribe. The signals are up in Nairobi, Mombasa and Kisumu. We are going through teething problems that we must resolve quickly. At this moment I can only thank all of you for raising these questions. I will seek to have someone to comprehensively respond to all queries. Regards Ndemo.
members, there is a healthy discussion thriving here and on other ICT fora/platforms about the digital migration. yet quite frankly, this enthusiasm is not matched by concrete steps on the ground. for example, can anyone tell me where to get that decoder/top box in the whole of nairobi for receiving the signet (kbc signal where all local broadcasters seem to have moved? APPARENTLY there is no supply in town, as at my last check this past weekend (despite the government having waived duty on the gadgets in this year's budget). Also, it seems like the service is being charged a monthly fee - for those who want to subscribe to PANG. was that the intention of the govt? so then what happens to the whole notion of competition and the expected quality service if kbc is the sole provider of the signal? and do kenyans understand that the licence to pang was not free to air but pay to view?
two, there seems to be confusion about the type of decoder to acquire if, as i gather, the types could be different for subscribers to PANG, SIGNET or the one that the media owners consortium will be gifted with. Is it T1 or T2 decoder?
three, the signal distributors don't have enough capacity yet - the signal only being available so far in nairobi and environs and (soon) Mombasa.
which leads me to wonder whether the intense promotion/adverstising campaign by cck is not going to waste. shouldn't the switch be instant and nationwide?
just wondering. david makali
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David The digital world will never cease to amaze. We must start working on Kensat or EASAT very soon. See below. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18739694 Ndemo.
members, there is a healthy discussion thriving here and on other ICT fora/platforms about the digital migration. yet quite frankly, this enthusiasm is not matched by concrete steps on the ground. for example, can anyone tell me where to get that decoder/top box in the whole of nairobi for receiving the signet (kbc signal where all local broadcasters seem to have moved? APPARENTLY there is no supply in town, as at my last check this past weekend (despite the government having waived duty on the gadgets in this year's budget). Also, it seems like the service is being charged a monthly fee - for those who want to subscribe to PANG. was that the intention of the govt? so then what happens to the whole notion of competition and the expected quality service if kbc is the sole provider of the signal? and do kenyans understand that the licence to pang was not free to air but pay to view?
two, there seems to be confusion about the type of decoder to acquire if, as i gather, the types could be different for subscribers to PANG, SIGNET or the one that the media owners consortium will be gifted with. Is it T1 or T2 decoder?
three, the signal distributors don't have enough capacity yet - the signal only being available so far in nairobi and environs and (soon) Mombasa.
which leads me to wonder whether the intense promotion/adverstising campaign by cck is not going to waste. shouldn't the switch be instant and nationwide?
just wondering. david makali
 _______________
"If my doctor told me I had only six minutes to live, I wouldn't brood. I'd type a little faster." â Isaac Asimo, Columbian Author and Scientist _______________
PO Box 3234 00200 Nairobi, Kenya cell: +254 722 517 540
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David, I recall Bwana Ndemo indicating that the boxes would be fabricated locally by jua kali (in partnership with Universities) - to promote local entrepreneurs, sustain the industry and grow the economy. Bwana Ndemo, did that happen? Edith ________________ Edith Ofwona Adera Senior Program Specialist Climate Change & Water Program International Development Research Centre | Centre de recherches pour le développement international Regional Office for Eastern and Southern Africa Tel: +254202713160 | Fax/Téléc: +254202711063 | Skype: edithadera eadera@idrc.or.ke<mailto:eadera@idrc.or.ke> | www.idrc.ca<http://www.idrc.ca/> | www.crdi.ca<http://www.crdi.ca/> ________________________________ From: kictanet [kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of David Makali [dmakali@yahoo.com] Sent: 10 July 2012 15:09 To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] much ado about migration but small steps on the ground... members, there is a healthy discussion thriving here and on other ICT fora/platforms about the digital migration. yet quite frankly, this enthusiasm is not matched by concrete steps on the ground. for example, can anyone tell me where to get that decoder/top box in the whole of nairobi for receiving the signet (kbc signal where all local broadcasters seem to have moved? APPARENTLY there is no supply in town, as at my last check this past weekend (despite the government having waived duty on the gadgets in this year's budget). Also, it seems like the service is being charged a monthly fee - for those who want to subscribe to PANG. was that the intention of the govt? so then what happens to the whole notion of competition and the expected quality service if kbc is the sole provider of the signal? and do kenyans understand that the licence to pang was not free to air but pay to view? two, there seems to be confusion about the type of decoder to acquire if, as i gather, the types could be different for subscribers to PANG, SIGNET or the one that the media owners consortium will be gifted with. Is it T1 or T2 decoder? three, the signal distributors don't have enough capacity yet - the signal only being available so far in nairobi and environs and (soon) Mombasa. which leads me to wonder whether the intense promotion/adverstising campaign by cck is not going to waste. shouldn't the switch be instant and nationwide? just wondering. david makali _______________ "If my doctor told me I had only six minutes to live, I wouldn't brood. I'd type a little faster." — Isaac Asimo, Columbian Author and Scientist _______________ PO Box 3234 00200 Nairobi, Kenya cell: +254 722 517 540 ________________________________
The problem with this is that people will not buy them. Kenyans don't quite believe in Jua Kali to produce High-tech electronics equipment. Repairs, yes. New, no:-) On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.or.ke> wrote:
David,
I recall Bwana Ndemo indicating that the boxes would be fabricated locally by jua kali (in partnership with Universities) - to promote local entrepreneurs, sustain the industry and grow the economy.
Bwana Ndemo, did that happen?
Edith
*________________ * ** ****
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International Development Research Centre | Centre de recherches pour le développement international****
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------------------------------ *From:* kictanet [kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of David Makali [dmakali@yahoo.com] *Sent:* 10 July 2012 15:09 *To:* Edith Adera *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* [kictanet] much ado about migration but small steps on the ground...
*members, there is a healthy discussion thriving here and on other ICT fora/platforms about the digital migration. yet quite frankly, this enthusiasm is not matched by concrete steps on the ground. for example, can anyone tell me where to get that decoder/top box in the whole of nairobi for receiving the signet (kbc signal where all local broadcasters seem to have moved? APPARENTLY there is no supply in town, as at my last check this past weekend (despite the government having waived duty on the gadgets in this year's budget). Also, it seems like the service is being charged a monthly fee - for those who want to subscribe to PANG. was that the intention of the govt? so then what happens to the whole notion of competition and the expected quality service if kbc is the sole provider of the signal? and do kenyans understand that the licence to pang was not free to air but pay to view?
two, there seems to be confusion about the type of decoder to acquire if, as i gather, the types could be different for subscribers to PANG, SIGNET or the one that the media owners consortium will be gifted with. Is it T1 or T2 decoder?
three, the signal distributors don't have enough capacity yet - the signal only being available so far in nairobi and environs and (soon) Mombasa.
which leads me to wonder whether the intense promotion/adverstising campaign by cck is not going to waste. shouldn't the switch be instant and nationwide?
just wondering. david makali *
_______________
"If my doctor told me I had only six minutes to live, I wouldn't brood. I'd type a little faster." — Isaac Asimo, Columbian Author and Scientist _______________
PO Box 3234 00200 Nairobi, Kenya cell: +254 722 517 540 ------------------------------ **
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Wash, Jua Kali doesnt necessarily mean shoddy. We can design what we want, the board, the interfaces, the firmware, the software then outsource actual mass production if we don't have the capacity - which we don''t at the moment. Gitau On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
The problem with this is that people will not buy them. Kenyans don't quite believe in Jua Kali to produce High-tech electronics equipment. Repairs, yes. New, no:-)
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.or.ke> wrote:
David,
I recall Bwana Ndemo indicating that the boxes would be fabricated locally by jua kali (in partnership with Universities) - to promote local entrepreneurs, sustain the industry and grow the economy.
Bwana Ndemo, did that happen?
Edith
*________________ * ** ****
*Edith Ofwona Adera *****
Senior Program Specialist
Climate Change & Water Program
International Development Research Centre | Centre de recherches pour le développement international****
Regional Office for Eastern and Southern Africa
Tel: +254202713160 | Fax/Téléc: +254202711063 | Skype: edithadera
eadera@idrc.or.ke | www.idrc.ca | www.crdi.ca
------------------------------ *From:* kictanet [kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of David Makali [dmakali@yahoo.com] *Sent:* 10 July 2012 15:09 *To:* Edith Adera *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* [kictanet] much ado about migration but small steps on the ground...
*members, there is a healthy discussion thriving here and on other ICT fora/platforms about the digital migration. yet quite frankly, this enthusiasm is not matched by concrete steps on the ground. for example, can anyone tell me where to get that decoder/top box in the whole of nairobi for receiving the signet (kbc signal where all local broadcasters seem to have moved? APPARENTLY there is no supply in town, as at my last check this past weekend (despite the government having waived duty on the gadgets in this year's budget). Also, it seems like the service is being charged a monthly fee - for those who want to subscribe to PANG. was that the intention of the govt? so then what happens to the whole notion of competition and the expected quality service if kbc is the sole provider of the signal? and do kenyans understand that the licence to pang was not free to air but pay to view?
two, there seems to be confusion about the type of decoder to acquire if, as i gather, the types could be different for subscribers to PANG, SIGNET or the one that the media owners consortium will be gifted with. Is it T1 or T2 decoder?
three, the signal distributors don't have enough capacity yet - the signal only being available so far in nairobi and environs and (soon) Mombasa.
which leads me to wonder whether the intense promotion/adverstising campaign by cck is not going to waste. shouldn't the switch be instant and nationwide?
just wondering. david makali *
_______________
"If my doctor told me I had only six minutes to live, I wouldn't brood. I'd type a little faster." — Isaac Asimo, Columbian Author and Scientist _______________
PO Box 3234 00200 Nairobi, Kenya cell: +254 722 517 540 ------------------------------ **
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Now that is not Jua Kali! ;-) On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 3:38 PM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
Wash,
Jua Kali doesnt necessarily mean shoddy. We can design what we want, the board, the interfaces, the firmware, the software then outsource actual mass production if we don't have the capacity - which we don''t at the moment.
Gitau
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
The problem with this is that people will not buy them. Kenyans don't quite believe in Jua Kali to produce High-tech electronics equipment. Repairs, yes. New, no:-)
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.or.ke> wrote:
David,
I recall Bwana Ndemo indicating that the boxes would be fabricated locally by jua kali (in partnership with Universities) - to promote local entrepreneurs, sustain the industry and grow the economy.
Bwana Ndemo, did that happen?
Edith
*________________ * ** ****
*Edith Ofwona Adera *****
Senior Program Specialist
Climate Change & Water Program
International Development Research Centre | Centre de recherches pour le développement international****
Regional Office for Eastern and Southern Africa
Tel: +254202713160 | Fax/Téléc: +254202711063 | Skype: edithadera
eadera@idrc.or.ke | www.idrc.ca | www.crdi.ca
------------------------------ *From:* kictanet [kictanet-bounces+eadera= idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of David Makali [ dmakali@yahoo.com] *Sent:* 10 July 2012 15:09 *To:* Edith Adera *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* [kictanet] much ado about migration but small steps on the ground...
*members, there is a healthy discussion thriving here and on other ICT fora/platforms about the digital migration. yet quite frankly, this enthusiasm is not matched by concrete steps on the ground. for example, can anyone tell me where to get that decoder/top box in the whole of nairobi for receiving the signet (kbc signal where all local broadcasters seem to have moved? APPARENTLY there is no supply in town, as at my last check this past weekend (despite the government having waived duty on the gadgets in this year's budget). Also, it seems like the service is being charged a monthly fee - for those who want to subscribe to PANG. was that the intention of the govt? so then what happens to the whole notion of competition and the expected quality service if kbc is the sole provider of the signal? and do kenyans understand that the licence to pang was not free to air but pay to view?
two, there seems to be confusion about the type of decoder to acquire if, as i gather, the types could be different for subscribers to PANG, SIGNET or the one that the media owners consortium will be gifted with. Is it T1 or T2 decoder?
three, the signal distributors don't have enough capacity yet - the signal only being available so far in nairobi and environs and (soon) Mombasa.
which leads me to wonder whether the intense promotion/adverstising campaign by cck is not going to waste. shouldn't the switch be instant and nationwide?
just wondering. david makali *
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We can do what we set our minds to do. If we excel in software we can excel in hardware... Ali Hussein +254 773/713 601113 Sent from my iPhone® On Jul 11, 2012, at 3:48 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Now that is not Jua Kali! ;-)
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 3:38 PM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote: Wash,
Jua Kali doesnt necessarily mean shoddy. We can design what we want, the board, the interfaces, the firmware, the software then outsource actual mass production if we don't have the capacity - which we don''t at the moment.
Gitau
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: The problem with this is that people will not buy them. Kenyans don't quite believe in Jua Kali to produce High-tech electronics equipment. Repairs, yes. New, no:-)
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.or.ke> wrote: David,
I recall Bwana Ndemo indicating that the boxes would be fabricated locally by jua kali (in partnership with Universities) - to promote local entrepreneurs, sustain the industry and grow the economy.
Bwana Ndemo, did that happen?
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From: kictanet [kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of David Makali [dmakali@yahoo.com] Sent: 10 July 2012 15:09 To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] much ado about migration but small steps on the ground...
members, there is a healthy discussion thriving here and on other ICT fora/platforms about the digital migration. yet quite frankly, this enthusiasm is not matched by concrete steps on the ground. for example, can anyone tell me where to get that decoder/top box in the whole of nairobi for receiving the signet (kbc signal where all local broadcasters seem to have moved? APPARENTLY there is no supply in town, as at my last check this past weekend (despite the government having waived duty on the gadgets in this year's budget). Also, it seems like the service is being charged a monthly fee - for those who want to subscribe to PANG. was that the intention of the govt? so then what happens to the whole notion of competition and the expected quality service if kbc is the sole provider of the signal? and do kenyans understand that the licence to pang was not free to air but pay to view?
two, there seems to be confusion about the type of decoder to acquire if, as i gather, the types could be different for subscribers to PANG, SIGNET or the one that the media owners consortium will be gifted with. Is it T1 or T2 decoder?
three, the signal distributors don't have enough capacity yet - the signal only being available so far in nairobi and environs and (soon) Mombasa.
which leads me to wonder whether the intense promotion/adverstising campaign by cck is not going to waste. shouldn't the switch be instant and nationwide?
just wondering. david makali
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John, Thanks for coming to the defence of SMEs. In the next decade, one of the top game changers is 3D printing sometimes referred to as additive manufacturing. With this technology in combination with a fabrication laboratory, you can reproduce practically anything in the world. What we need are new and sofisticated entrepreneurs to shift the game from energy sapping Jua Kali to computer graphics and producing either spare parts of complete products. Dr. Gachigi at Nairobi University is now conversant and versatile with these new technologies. We should not celebrate 50 years of independence while importing pencils and rulers from China. We must agree that in the next few months we produce a Kenyan DVBT2 TV set or at the minimun produce the set top box we made with Dr. Gachigi but failed to get someone to commercialize it. Countries that have embraced this new and equalizing technology would grow faster. We should not put any hopes on oil since the new drilling technologies called fracking will find oil for each nation. Oil will not be what it was. The US today is self sufficient from new oil finds in Dakotas and more nations will access the same technology. China is hunting for oil in its fast South China Sea. There will be no demand. What will be in short supply is human resources in the coming years and this is what we have in plenty. Let us develop our human resource capacity to develop home grown products and we shall succeed in the coming days. Ndemo.
Wash,
Jua Kali doesnt necessarily mean shoddy. We can design what we want, the board, the interfaces, the firmware, the software then outsource actual mass production if we don't have the capacity - which we don''t at the moment.
Gitau
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
The problem with this is that people will not buy them. Kenyans don't quite believe in Jua Kali to produce High-tech electronics equipment. Repairs, yes. New, no:-)
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.or.ke> wrote:
David,
I recall Bwana Ndemo indicating that the boxes would be fabricated locally by jua kali (in partnership with Universities) - to promote local entrepreneurs, sustain the industry and grow the economy.
Bwana Ndemo, did that happen?
Edith
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------------------------------ *From:* kictanet [kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of David Makali [dmakali@yahoo.com] *Sent:* 10 July 2012 15:09 *To:* Edith Adera *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* [kictanet] much ado about migration but small steps on the ground...
*members, there is a healthy discussion thriving here and on other ICT fora/platforms about the digital migration. yet quite frankly, this enthusiasm is not matched by concrete steps on the ground. for example, can anyone tell me where to get that decoder/top box in the whole of nairobi for receiving the signet (kbc signal where all local broadcasters seem to have moved? APPARENTLY there is no supply in town, as at my last check this past weekend (despite the government having waived duty on the gadgets in this year's budget). Also, it seems like the service is being charged a monthly fee - for those who want to subscribe to PANG. was that the intention of the govt? so then what happens to the whole notion of competition and the expected quality service if kbc is the sole provider of the signal? and do kenyans understand that the licence to pang was not free to air but pay to view?
two, there seems to be confusion about the type of decoder to acquire if, as i gather, the types could be different for subscribers to PANG, SIGNET or the one that the media owners consortium will be gifted with. Is it T1 or T2 decoder?
three, the signal distributors don't have enough capacity yet - the signal only being available so far in nairobi and environs and (soon) Mombasa.
which leads me to wonder whether the intense promotion/adverstising campaign by cck is not going to waste. shouldn't the switch be instant and nationwide?
just wondering. david makali *
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Well said Daktari. Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: bitange@jambo.co.ke Sender: "kictanet" <kictanet-bounces+otieno.barrack=gmail.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke>Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 20:13:26 To: <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] much ado about migration but small steps on the ground... John, Thanks for coming to the defence of SMEs. In the next decade, one of the top game changers is 3D printing sometimes referred to as additive manufacturing. With this technology in combination with a fabrication laboratory, you can reproduce practically anything in the world. What we need are new and sofisticated entrepreneurs to shift the game from energy sapping Jua Kali to computer graphics and producing either spare parts of complete products. Dr. Gachigi at Nairobi University is now conversant and versatile with these new technologies. We should not celebrate 50 years of independence while importing pencils and rulers from China. We must agree that in the next few months we produce a Kenyan DVBT2 TV set or at the minimun produce the set top box we made with Dr. Gachigi but failed to get someone to commercialize it. Countries that have embraced this new and equalizing technology would grow faster. We should not put any hopes on oil since the new drilling technologies called fracking will find oil for each nation. Oil will not be what it was. The US today is self sufficient from new oil finds in Dakotas and more nations will access the same technology. China is hunting for oil in its fast South China Sea. There will be no demand. What will be in short supply is human resources in the coming years and this is what we have in plenty. Let us develop our human resource capacity to develop home grown products and we shall succeed in the coming days. Ndemo.
Wash,
Jua Kali doesnt necessarily mean shoddy. We can design what we want, the board, the interfaces, the firmware, the software then outsource actual mass production if we don't have the capacity - which we don''t at the moment.
Gitau
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
The problem with this is that people will not buy them. Kenyans don't quite believe in Jua Kali to produce High-tech electronics equipment. Repairs, yes. New, no:-)
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.or.ke> wrote:
David,
I recall Bwana Ndemo indicating that the boxes would be fabricated locally by jua kali (in partnership with Universities) - to promote local entrepreneurs, sustain the industry and grow the economy.
Bwana Ndemo, did that happen?
Edith
*________________ * ** ****
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Climate Change & Water Program
International Development Research Centre | Centre de recherches pour le développement international****
Regional Office for Eastern and Southern Africa
Tel: +254202713160 | Fax/Téléc: +254202711063 | Skype: edithadera
eadera@idrc.or.ke | www.idrc.ca | www.crdi.ca
------------------------------ *From:* kictanet [kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of David Makali [dmakali@yahoo.com] *Sent:* 10 July 2012 15:09 *To:* Edith Adera *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* [kictanet] much ado about migration but small steps on the ground...
*members, there is a healthy discussion thriving here and on other ICT fora/platforms about the digital migration. yet quite frankly, this enthusiasm is not matched by concrete steps on the ground. for example, can anyone tell me where to get that decoder/top box in the whole of nairobi for receiving the signet (kbc signal where all local broadcasters seem to have moved? APPARENTLY there is no supply in town, as at my last check this past weekend (despite the government having waived duty on the gadgets in this year's budget). Also, it seems like the service is being charged a monthly fee - for those who want to subscribe to PANG. was that the intention of the govt? so then what happens to the whole notion of competition and the expected quality service if kbc is the sole provider of the signal? and do kenyans understand that the licence to pang was not free to air but pay to view?
two, there seems to be confusion about the type of decoder to acquire if, as i gather, the types could be different for subscribers to PANG, SIGNET or the one that the media owners consortium will be gifted with. Is it T1 or T2 decoder?
three, the signal distributors don't have enough capacity yet - the signal only being available so far in nairobi and environs and (soon) Mombasa.
which leads me to wonder whether the intense promotion/adverstising campaign by cck is not going to waste. shouldn't the switch be instant and nationwide?
just wondering. david makali *
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Nice one Dr. on the other hand, i think the normal juakali we know of has NOT moved forward a step, i see no effort to innovate. almost all furniture in our retail stores is imported while everyone (read youth) is looking for a job. last Friday i was talking to guy who used to work for a Chinese business woman who left the country after PEV, the products they were making are not in the market right now yet they Kenyans in question with all the expertise, did and are doing nothing but just growing old and poorer. we mine graphite and we have wood yet we can't make a pencil. We in IT sect are trying to move the country further but what about electronic engineers, bio science, agriculture ??????? Kenyans are dying of hunger every year. anyway, i think we are lazy. please convince me otherwise -- -erastus +254733725373 Nairobi Kenya On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 10:25 PM, <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
Well said Daktari. Sent from my BlackBerry®
-----Original Message----- From: bitange@jambo.co.ke Sender: "kictanet" <kictanet-bounces+otieno.barrack=gmail.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke>Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 20:13:26 To: <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] much ado about migration but small steps on the ground...
John, Thanks for coming to the defence of SMEs. In the next decade, one of the top game changers is 3D printing sometimes referred to as additive manufacturing. With this technology in combination with a fabrication laboratory, you can reproduce practically anything in the world. What we need are new and sofisticated entrepreneurs to shift the game from energy sapping Jua Kali to computer graphics and producing either spare parts of complete products. Dr. Gachigi at Nairobi University is now conversant and versatile with these new technologies.
We should not celebrate 50 years of independence while importing pencils and rulers from China. We must agree that in the next few months we produce a Kenyan DVBT2 TV set or at the minimun produce the set top box we made with Dr. Gachigi but failed to get someone to commercialize it. Countries that have embraced this new and equalizing technology would grow faster.
We should not put any hopes on oil since the new drilling technologies called fracking will find oil for each nation. Oil will not be what it was. The US today is self sufficient from new oil finds in Dakotas and more nations will access the same technology. China is hunting for oil in its fast South China Sea. There will be no demand. What will be in short supply is human resources in the coming years and this is what we have in plenty. Let us develop our human resource capacity to develop home grown products and we shall succeed in the coming days.
Ndemo.
Wash,
Jua Kali doesnt necessarily mean shoddy. We can design what we want, the board, the interfaces, the firmware, the software then outsource actual mass production if we don't have the capacity - which we don''t at the moment.
Gitau
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
The problem with this is that people will not buy them. Kenyans don't quite believe in Jua Kali to produce High-tech electronics equipment. Repairs, yes. New, no:-)
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.or.ke> wrote:
David,
I recall Bwana Ndemo indicating that the boxes would be fabricated locally by jua kali (in partnership with Universities) - to promote local entrepreneurs, sustain the industry and grow the economy.
Bwana Ndemo, did that happen?
Edith
*________________ * ** ****
*Edith Ofwona Adera *****
Senior Program Specialist
Climate Change & Water Program
International Development Research Centre | Centre de recherches pour le développement international****
Regional Office for Eastern and Southern Africa
Tel: +254202713160 | Fax/Téléc: +254202711063 | Skype: edithadera
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------------------------------ *From:* kictanet [kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of David Makali [dmakali@yahoo.com] *Sent:* 10 July 2012 15:09 *To:* Edith Adera *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* [kictanet] much ado about migration but small steps on the ground...
*members, there is a healthy discussion thriving here and on other ICT fora/platforms about the digital migration. yet quite frankly, this enthusiasm is not matched by concrete steps on the ground. for example, can anyone tell me where to get that decoder/top box in the whole of nairobi for receiving the signet (kbc signal where all local broadcasters seem to have moved? APPARENTLY there is no supply in town, as at my last check this past weekend (despite the government having waived duty on the gadgets in this year's budget). Also, it seems like the service is being charged a monthly fee - for those who want to subscribe to PANG. was that the intention of the govt? so then what happens to the whole notion of competition and the expected quality service if kbc is the sole provider of the signal? and do kenyans understand that the licence to pang was not free to air but pay to view?
two, there seems to be confusion about the type of decoder to acquire if, as i gather, the types could be different for subscribers to PANG, SIGNET or the one that the media owners consortium will be gifted with. Is it T1 or T2 decoder?
three, the signal distributors don't have enough capacity yet - the signal only being available so far in nairobi and environs and (soon) Mombasa.
which leads me to wonder whether the intense promotion/adverstising campaign by cck is not going to waste. shouldn't the switch be instant and nationwide?
just wondering. david makali *
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Again, while advocating for tenders to go to local firms, we are forgetting to look at the source of funding for such projects. Government's rarely fund their projects. A good way to solve this would be coming with a framework in which government can locally source for funds by floating long term bonds for such projects, then having the same projects locally tendered. Downside is that bonds can be expensive compared to current terms which see interest rates at less than 3 per cent eg when funded by China EXIM. The private sector could also form a body which finances such govt projects and mandates local contracting, but again they will have to do with low interest rates over a long term. But in Africa, most capital is siphoned off by politicians to Islands and Swiss bank accounts where it sits idle and inaccessible to home countries. Corruption is bleeding us dry, hence why it should be punishable by death.
Just wondering I much support local assembly of the same especially these will cut down on the high cost of support . it will also spur the local electronic industry Dr. Gachigi i am still available to provide the commercial channel if the final cost of production will make business sense. Please advice how you wish to proceed otherwise for those who need boxes i should have my regular stocks beginning August regards ----- Original Message ----- From: "gisho" <gichuhie@gmail.com> To: paul@adwest.net Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Friday, 13 July, 2012 9:24:38 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] much ado about migration but small steps on the ground... Nice one Dr. on the other hand, i think the normal juakali we know of has NOT moved forward a step, i see no effort to innovate. almost all furniture in our retail stores is imported while everyone (read youth) is looking for a job. last Friday i was talking to guy who used to work for a Chinese business woman who left the country after PEV, the products they were making are not in the market right now yet they Kenyans in question with all the expertise, did and are doing nothing but just growing old and poorer. we mine graphite and we have wood yet we can't make a pencil. We in IT sect are trying to move the country further but what about electronic engineers, bio science, agriculture ??????? Kenyans are dying of hunger every year. anyway, i think we are lazy. please convince me otherwise -- -erastus +254733725373 Nairobi Kenya On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 10:25 PM, < otieno.barrack@gmail.com > wrote: Well said Daktari. Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: bitange@jambo.co.ke Sender: "kictanet" <kictanet-bounces+otieno.barrack= gmail.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke >Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 20:13:26 To: < otieno.barrack@gmail.com > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions< kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > Subject: Re: [kictanet] much ado about migration but small steps on the ground... John, Thanks for coming to the defence of SMEs. In the next decade, one of the top game changers is 3D printing sometimes referred to as additive manufacturing. With this technology in combination with a fabrication laboratory, you can reproduce practically anything in the world. What we need are new and sofisticated entrepreneurs to shift the game from energy sapping Jua Kali to computer graphics and producing either spare parts of complete products. Dr. Gachigi at Nairobi University is now conversant and versatile with these new technologies. We should not celebrate 50 years of independence while importing pencils and rulers from China. We must agree that in the next few months we produce a Kenyan DVBT2 TV set or at the minimun produce the set top box we made with Dr. Gachigi but failed to get someone to commercialize it. Countries that have embraced this new and equalizing technology would grow faster. We should not put any hopes on oil since the new drilling technologies called fracking will find oil for each nation. Oil will not be what it was. The US today is self sufficient from new oil finds in Dakotas and more nations will access the same technology. China is hunting for oil in its fast South China Sea. There will be no demand. What will be in short supply is human resources in the coming years and this is what we have in plenty. Let us develop our human resource capacity to develop home grown products and we shall succeed in the coming days. Ndemo.
Wash,
Jua Kali doesnt necessarily mean shoddy. We can design what we want, the board, the interfaces, the firmware, the software then outsource actual mass production if we don't have the capacity - which we don''t at the moment.
Gitau
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com >wrote:
The problem with this is that people will not buy them. Kenyans don't quite believe in Jua Kali to produce High-tech electronics equipment. Repairs, yes. New, no:-)
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Edith Adera < eadera@idrc.or.ke > wrote:
David,
I recall Bwana Ndemo indicating that the boxes would be fabricated locally by jua kali (in partnership with Universities) - to promote local entrepreneurs, sustain the industry and grow the economy.
Bwana Ndemo, did that happen?
Edith
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------------------------------ *From:* kictanet [kictanet-bounces+eadera= idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke ] On Behalf Of David Makali [ dmakali@yahoo.com ] *Sent:* 10 July 2012 15:09 *To:* Edith Adera *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* [kictanet] much ado about migration but small steps on the ground...
*members, there is a healthy discussion thriving here and on other ICT fora/platforms about the digital migration. yet quite frankly, this enthusiasm is not matched by concrete steps on the ground. for example, can anyone tell me where to get that decoder/top box in the whole of nairobi for receiving the signet (kbc signal where all local broadcasters seem to have moved? APPARENTLY there is no supply in town, as at my last check this past weekend (despite the government having waived duty on the gadgets in this year's budget). Also, it seems like the service is being charged a monthly fee - for those who want to subscribe to PANG. was that the intention of the govt? so then what happens to the whole notion of competition and the expected quality service if kbc is the sole provider of the signal? and do kenyans understand that the licence to pang was not free to air but pay to view?
two, there seems to be confusion about the type of decoder to acquire if, as i gather, the types could be different for subscribers to PANG, SIGNET or the one that the media owners consortium will be gifted with. Is it T1 or T2 decoder?
three, the signal distributors don't have enough capacity yet - the signal only being available so far in nairobi and environs and (soon) Mombasa.
which leads me to wonder whether the intense promotion/adverstising campaign by cck is not going to waste. shouldn't the switch be instant and nationwide?
just wondering. david makali *
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David Makali -
Dennis Kioko -
Edith Adera -
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Odhiambo Washington -
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Paul Makobi -
robert yawe -
S.M. Muraya