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Listers Interesting development. Potential precedence setting. The High Court has stopped KCB Group from using a banking IT platform following a multi-million-shilling lawsuit where the lender is accused of software piracy. Nagalakshmi Solutions Ltd (NLS) obtained orders stopping KCB from using its banking software after the lender continued using it despite terminating the five-year contract in November. Judge Fred Ochieng also ordered KCB, Kenya’s largest bank by assets, to uninstall the software that works together with its core banking application and barred the listed lender from developing a similar IT application. Read on:- http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/KCB-cited-for-software-piracy/5... Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle Sent from my iPad
This is good for intellectual property protection. From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+cmsando=iebc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Ali Hussein via kictanet Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 10:11 AM To: Christopher Msando Cc: Ali Hussein Subject: [kictanet] KCB cited for software piracy - Business Daily Listers Interesting development. Potential precedence setting. The High Court has stopped KCB Group from using a banking IT platform following a multi-million-shilling lawsuit where the lender is accused of software piracy. Nagalakshmi Solutions Ltd (NLS) obtained orders stopping KCB from using its banking software after the lender continued using it despite terminating the five-year contract in November. Judge Fred Ochieng also ordered KCB, Kenya’s largest bank by assets, to uninstall the software that works together with its core banking application and barred the listed lender from developing a similar IT application. Read on:- http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/KCB-cited-for-software-piracy/5... Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle Sent from my iPad Christopher Msando Manager, Data Center & Infrastructure [signature image] ________________________________ This e-mail and its attachments are intended for the above named only and may be confidential. If they have come to you by error you must not copy or show them to anyone, nor should you take any action, other than to notify the sender.
Christopher, we cannot make such a conclusion after reading just one news article. It's important organisations running critical infrastructure evaluate licensing models for products they use, and the risks involved. It's normal for two parties to disagree, and stop trading with each other. But trying to break apart business models or cripple them is not in public interest. Some measures have to be necessary and proposionate On Mar 30, 2017 10:10 AM, "Christopher Msando via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
This is good for intellectual property protection.
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Listers
Interesting development. Potential precedence setting.
The High Court has stopped KCB Group from using a banking IT platform following a multi-million-shilling lawsuit where the lender is accused of software piracy.
Nagalakshmi Solutions Ltd (NLS) obtained orders stopping KCB from using its banking software after the lender continued using it despite terminating the five-year contract in November.
Judge Fred Ochieng also ordered KCB, Kenya’s largest bank by assets, to uninstall the software that works together with its core banking application and barred the listed lender from developing a similar IT application.
Read on:-
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/KCB-cited-for- software-piracy/539550-3870220-b7e92lz/
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Ali, That ruling is a bit interesting... You uninstall and yet are banned from either developing or sourcing for a replacement! On 30 Mar 2017 10:13 a.m., "Ali Hussein via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
Interesting development. Potential precedence setting.
The High Court has stopped KCB Group from using a banking IT platform following a multi-million-shilling lawsuit where the lender is accused of software piracy.
Nagalakshmi Solutions Ltd (NLS) obtained orders stopping KCB from using its banking software after the lender continued using it despite terminating the five-year contract in November.
Judge Fred Ochieng also ordered KCB, Kenya’s largest bank by assets, to uninstall the software that works together with its core banking application and barred the listed lender from developing a similar IT application.
Read on:-
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/KCB-cited-for- software-piracy/539550-3870220-b7e92lz/
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On 30 March 2017 at 18:39, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
That ruling is a bit interesting... You uninstall and yet are banned from either developing or sourcing for a replacement!
I think the reporting may be flawed. Because what that means is the bank should either stop operating, or resort to 1980 manual platforms. ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya twitter.com/lordmwesh
Indeed. Not sure how this can be justified. The bottle line is that we all must respect IP. Ali Hussein +254 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle Get Outlook for iOS On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 5:39 PM +0300, "Ngigi Waithaka" <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote: Ali, That ruling is a bit interesting... You uninstall and yet are banned from either developing or sourcing for a replacement! On 30 Mar 2017 10:13 a.m., "Ali Hussein via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Listers Interesting development. Potential precedence setting. The High Court has stopped KCB Group from using a banking IT platform following a multi-million-shilling lawsuit where the lender is accused of software piracy. Nagalakshmi Solutions Ltd (NLS) obtained orders stopping KCB from using its banking software after the lender continued using it despite terminating the five-year contract in November. Judge Fred Ochieng also ordered KCB, Kenya’s largest bank by assets, to uninstall the software that works together with its core banking application and barred the listed lender from developing a similar IT application. Read on:- http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/KCB-cited-for-software-piracy/5... Ali HusseinPrincipalHussein & Associates+254 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/ Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ngigi%40at.co.ke The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
Interesting hmmm...however, it would be of great importance to know the basis of the ruling...was it informed by any local act..which specific clause? On 30-Mar-2017 10:10 PM, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Indeed. Not sure how this can be justified. The bottle line is that we all must respect IP.
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On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 5:39 PM +0300, "Ngigi Waithaka" <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
Ali,
That ruling is a bit interesting... You uninstall and yet are banned from either developing or sourcing for a replacement!
On 30 Mar 2017 10:13 a.m., "Ali Hussein via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
Interesting development. Potential precedence setting.
The High Court has stopped KCB Group from using a banking IT platform following a multi-million-shilling lawsuit where the lender is accused of software piracy.
Nagalakshmi Solutions Ltd (NLS) obtained orders stopping KCB from using its banking software after the lender continued using it despite terminating the five-year contract in November.
Judge Fred Ochieng also ordered KCB, Kenya’s largest bank by assets, to uninstall the software that works together with its core banking application and barred the listed lender from developing a similar IT application.
Read on:-
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/KCB-cited-for-s oftware-piracy/539550-3870220-b7e92lz/
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I think this issue needs a proper investigation before we jump into conclusions. I find it rather surprising that there was no exit strategy option visible - which hints to a high degree of vendor lockin without a termination roadmap (for a Bank that manages a huge chunk of our country's financial sector). I think before we jump into conclusions there are many moving parts that need to be looked at, such as how it was possible to have to be held hostage by a single vendor in the process for a very important bank in the banking sector (which also happens to handle other banks in receivership). On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 11:06 PM, Ronald Ojino via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Interesting hmmm...however, it would be of great importance to know the basis of the ruling...was it informed by any local act..which specific clause?
On 30-Mar-2017 10:10 PM, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Indeed. Not sure how this can be justified. The bottle line is that we all must respect IP.
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On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 5:39 PM +0300, "Ngigi Waithaka" <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
Ali,
That ruling is a bit interesting... You uninstall and yet are banned from either developing or sourcing for a replacement!
On 30 Mar 2017 10:13 a.m., "Ali Hussein via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
Interesting development. Potential precedence setting.
The High Court has stopped KCB Group from using a banking IT platform following a multi-million-shilling lawsuit where the lender is accused of software piracy.
Nagalakshmi Solutions Ltd (NLS) obtained orders stopping KCB from using its banking software after the lender continued using it despite terminating the five-year contract in November.
Judge Fred Ochieng also ordered KCB, Kenya’s largest bank by assets, to uninstall the software that works together with its core banking application and barred the listed lender from developing a similar IT application.
Read on:-
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/KCB-cited-for-s oftware-piracy/539550-3870220-b7e92lz/
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+1 Ahmed The worst position you can find yourself in is being held a hostage by a vendor. Such risks should be noted pretty earlier and nipped in the bud. On Fri, 31 Mar 2017 at 3:16 PM Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
I think this issue needs a proper investigation before we jump into conclusions.
I find it rather surprising that there was no exit strategy option visible - which hints to a high degree of vendor lockin without a termination roadmap (for a Bank that manages a huge chunk of our country's financial sector).
I think before we jump into conclusions there are many moving parts that need to be looked at, such as how it was possible to have to be held hostage by a single vendor in the process for a very important bank in the banking sector (which also happens to handle other banks in receivership).
On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 11:06 PM, Ronald Ojino via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Interesting hmmm...however, it would be of great importance to know the basis of the ruling...was it informed by any local act..which specific clause?
On 30-Mar-2017 10:10 PM, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Indeed. Not sure how this can be justified. The bottle line is that we all must respect IP.
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On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 5:39 PM +0300, "Ngigi Waithaka" <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
Ali,
That ruling is a bit interesting... You uninstall and yet are banned from either developing or sourcing for a replacement!
On 30 Mar 2017 10:13 a.m., "Ali Hussein via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
Interesting development. Potential precedence setting.
The High Court has stopped KCB Group from using a banking IT platform following a multi-million-shilling lawsuit where the lender is accused of software piracy.
Nagalakshmi Solutions Ltd (NLS) obtained orders stopping KCB from using its banking software after the lender continued using it despite terminating the five-year contract in November.
Judge Fred Ochieng also ordered KCB, Kenya’s largest bank by assets, to uninstall the software that works together with its core banking application and barred the listed lender from developing a similar IT application.
Read on:-
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/KCB-cited-for-software-piracy/5...
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Yes Davis, I think its important to address this from these perspectives: 1. We have way to many people who will have their financial systems compromised under such circumstances. In recent times there has been a lot of market instability and honestly speaking KCB has been the one to bring back confidence to the sector when Banks have been seen to fail (not considering also how many customers they serve all the way to mashinani with their very huge network of Banks). 2. Investor confidence when investing in businesses that use local Banks. Its only been 3 years and so much has happened, and as I stated KCB has been seen to be the one offering the base of support. People have lost money, businesses have lost access to capital, etc etc. (Imperial, Chase, Rafiki, etc). So as one is a people issue, the other is an investor and business owner issue. When the base Banking sector is not solid where will the appetite for taking business risks be if the foundation which manages financial assets keeps on getting compromised? This chain effect is on a huge scale and can damage a lot else in the economy. Considering this is a single vendor who can pull this off can really put the economy's stability in question. And we have elections already next door (already investors will be skeptical). Lets see how it unfolds though... On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 3:36 PM, Davis Onsakia <mautidavis@gmail.com> wrote:
+1 Ahmed
The worst position you can find yourself in is being held a hostage by a vendor.
Such risks should be noted pretty earlier and nipped in the bud.
On Fri, 31 Mar 2017 at 3:16 PM Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
I think this issue needs a proper investigation before we jump into conclusions.
I find it rather surprising that there was no exit strategy option visible - which hints to a high degree of vendor lockin without a termination roadmap (for a Bank that manages a huge chunk of our country's financial sector).
I think before we jump into conclusions there are many moving parts that need to be looked at, such as how it was possible to have to be held hostage by a single vendor in the process for a very important bank in the banking sector (which also happens to handle other banks in receivership).
On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 11:06 PM, Ronald Ojino via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Interesting hmmm...however, it would be of great importance to know the basis of the ruling...was it informed by any local act..which specific clause?
On 30-Mar-2017 10:10 PM, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Indeed. Not sure how this can be justified. The bottle line is that we all must respect IP.
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On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 5:39 PM +0300, "Ngigi Waithaka" <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
Ali,
That ruling is a bit interesting... You uninstall and yet are banned from either developing or sourcing for a replacement!
On 30 Mar 2017 10:13 a.m., "Ali Hussein via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
Interesting development. Potential precedence setting.
The High Court has stopped KCB Group from using a banking IT platform following a multi-million-shilling lawsuit where the lender is accused of software piracy.
Nagalakshmi Solutions Ltd (NLS) obtained orders stopping KCB from using its banking software after the lender continued using it despite terminating the five-year contract in November.
Judge Fred Ochieng also ordered KCB, Kenya’s largest bank by assets, to uninstall the software that works together with its core banking application and barred the listed lender from developing a similar IT application.
Read on:-
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/KCB-cited-for- software-piracy/539550-3870220-b7e92lz/
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Ahmed Super important questions you raise. It would have been great to be a fly on the wall in some of those Board Meetings at KCB.. :-) Some heads will surely roll there..And soon.. *Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya. Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 3:14 PM, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
I think this issue needs a proper investigation before we jump into conclusions.
I find it rather surprising that there was no exit strategy option visible - which hints to a high degree of vendor lockin without a termination roadmap (for a Bank that manages a huge chunk of our country's financial sector).
I think before we jump into conclusions there are many moving parts that need to be looked at, such as how it was possible to have to be held hostage by a single vendor in the process for a very important bank in the banking sector (which also happens to handle other banks in receivership).
On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 11:06 PM, Ronald Ojino via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Interesting hmmm...however, it would be of great importance to know the basis of the ruling...was it informed by any local act..which specific clause?
On 30-Mar-2017 10:10 PM, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Indeed. Not sure how this can be justified. The bottle line is that we all must respect IP.
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On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 5:39 PM +0300, "Ngigi Waithaka" <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
Ali,
That ruling is a bit interesting... You uninstall and yet are banned from either developing or sourcing for a replacement!
On 30 Mar 2017 10:13 a.m., "Ali Hussein via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
Interesting development. Potential precedence setting.
The High Court has stopped KCB Group from using a banking IT platform following a multi-million-shilling lawsuit where the lender is accused of software piracy.
Nagalakshmi Solutions Ltd (NLS) obtained orders stopping KCB from using its banking software after the lender continued using it despite terminating the five-year contract in November.
Judge Fred Ochieng also ordered KCB, Kenya’s largest bank by assets, to uninstall the software that works together with its core banking application and barred the listed lender from developing a similar IT application.
Read on:-
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/KCB-cited-for-s oftware-piracy/539550-3870220-b7e92lz/
*Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* +254 0713 601113 <+254%20713%20601113>
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Seems to me like a misunderstanding that has become a dispute. KCB is not known to be as careless as to get things this bad. Interesting details in the link below including talk of bothced takeover bid of vendor by KCB. http://theinformer.co.ke/3180/kcb-faces-shutdown-over-sh5-1b-software-piracy... On 31 Mar 2017 16:32, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Ahmed
Super important questions you raise. It would have been great to be a fly on the wall in some of those Board Meetings at KCB.. :-) Some heads will surely roll there..And soon..
*Ali Hussein*
*Principal*
*Hussein & Associates*
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On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 3:14 PM, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
I think this issue needs a proper investigation before we jump into conclusions.
I find it rather surprising that there was no exit strategy option visible - which hints to a high degree of vendor lockin without a termination roadmap (for a Bank that manages a huge chunk of our country's financial sector).
I think before we jump into conclusions there are many moving parts that need to be looked at, such as how it was possible to have to be held hostage by a single vendor in the process for a very important bank in the banking sector (which also happens to handle other banks in receivership).
On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 11:06 PM, Ronald Ojino via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Interesting hmmm...however, it would be of great importance to know the basis of the ruling...was it informed by any local act..which specific clause?
On 30-Mar-2017 10:10 PM, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Indeed. Not sure how this can be justified. The bottle line is that we all must respect IP.
Ali Hussein +254 0713 601113 <+254%20713%20601113>
Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
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On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 5:39 PM +0300, "Ngigi Waithaka" <ngigi@at.co.ke
wrote:
Ali,
That ruling is a bit interesting... You uninstall and yet are banned from either developing or sourcing for a replacement!
On 30 Mar 2017 10:13 a.m., "Ali Hussein via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
Interesting development. Potential precedence setting.
The High Court has stopped KCB Group from using a banking IT platform following a multi-million-shilling lawsuit where the lender is accused of software piracy.
Nagalakshmi Solutions Ltd (NLS) obtained orders stopping KCB from using its banking software after the lender continued using it despite terminating the five-year contract in November.
Judge Fred Ochieng also ordered KCB, Kenya’s largest bank by assets, to uninstall the software that works together with its core banking application and barred the listed lender from developing a similar IT application.
Read on:-
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/KCB-cited-for-s oftware-piracy/539550-3870220-b7e92lz/
*Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* +254 0713 601113 <+254%20713%20601113>
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
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participants (8)
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Ahmed Mohamed Maawy -
Ali Hussein -
Christopher Msando -
Davis Onsakia -
K Machuhi -
Mwendwa Kivuva -
Ngigi Waithaka -
Ronald Ojino