Anything can change I guess and with the current waves of regional integrations ICANN may have to reconsider its hard stance on this and create another classification of regional top level domains (RTLD) just like the CCTLD's, or something like that. -----Original Message----- From: kictanet-bounces+jkagwe=aforbes.co.ke@kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+jkagwe=aforbes.co.ke@kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Kai Wulff Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 6:58 AM To: Kagwe James Subject: Re: [kictanet] www.east-africa.ea Well, there is .EU .. And take it from me, they are not very organized .. Kai ----- Original Message ----- From: <jmanthi@gmail.com> To: <kai.wulff@kdn.co.ke> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 23:00 Subject: Re: [kictanet] www.east-africa.ea
This would be a very good thing and would very popular with those businesses that need to do businesses within EA.
But at those time I think it would be very impossible because ICANN rules basicaaly say that country extensions (EA) can only be given to politically organized countries.
My 2 cents.
Joe Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 22:03:29 To:Joseph Manthi <jmanthi@gmail.com> Subject: [kictanet] www.east-africa.ea
For those in the know, how feasible is introducing a dot [EA] domain. With a lucrative market population of 109 million after adding Rwanda and Burundi into East Africa Community...is it possible to have one website with a [.ea] domain instead of having 5 websites for [.ke], [.ug], [.tz], [.rw] and [.bi]?? And may be soon [.southsudan]??
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Dear All, It has taken the .EU over 4 years to have it in place. Its taken similary .ASIA the equivalent to have theirs in place. .EA is entered into the IS0-3166-1 standards table and reserved as the country code for Ceuta and Melilla. Hence for ICANN to issue a two letter code, it has to be in the ISO-3166-1 table. There are other requirements that also have to be met for the process to be completed. It requires intense collaboration amongst members of the community to see the application approved by ICANN. For whats it worth its some discussions that we have been having amongst ourselves and there are challenges to this effect. First line of thought is are we at a point ready to thrown in competition to our national ccTLDs?. If to compare with the EU, most ccTLD's within the region are well established with over 100,000 domain names - hence very financially stable. In our region, none of the 3 ccTLDs are above 10,000 domains. Can the ccTLDs compete with the .EA or its equivalent?. Or is the thinking line that we may eventually move to a political federation and hence no need of the .KE, .TZ, .UG, .RW, .BI et al. Regards, Kagwe James wrote:
Anything can change I guess and with the current waves of regional integrations ICANN may have to reconsider its hard stance on this and create another classification of regional top level domains (RTLD) just like the CCTLD's, or something like that.
-----Original Message----- From: kictanet-bounces+jkagwe=aforbes.co.ke@kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+jkagwe=aforbes.co.ke@kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Kai Wulff Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 6:58 AM To: Kagwe James Subject: Re: [kictanet] www.east-africa.ea
Well,
there is .EU .. And take it from me, they are not very organized ..
Kai ----- Original Message ----- From: <jmanthi@gmail.com> To: <kai.wulff@kdn.co.ke> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 23:00 Subject: Re: [kictanet] www.east-africa.ea
This would be a very good thing and would very popular with those businesses that need to do businesses within EA.
But at those time I think it would be very impossible because ICANN rules basicaaly say that country extensions (EA) can only be given to politically organized countries.
My 2 cents.
Joe Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
-----Original Message----- From: "Bill Kagai" <mediacorp.research@mediacorp.co.ke>
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 22:03:29 To:Joseph Manthi <jmanthi@gmail.com> Subject: [kictanet] www.east-africa.ea
For those in the know, how feasible is introducing a dot [EA] domain. With a lucrative market population of 109 million after adding Rwanda and Burundi into East Africa Community...is it possible to have one website with a [.ea] domain instead of having 5 websites for [.ke], [.ug], [.tz], [.rw] and [.bi]?? And may be soon [.southsudan]??
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Perhaps what is important is to ensure we do not get tangled in logistics and endless debate over the [.ea] domain with Melila and Ceuta. An alternative can be an ISO 3166-1 alpha-3 extension [.eac] for [.EastAfricaCommunity] which I have checked is still unclaimed. I do not hold any copyright to the [.eac] or [.ea] idea so if KICTANET or any of its members can run with it, it will be beneficial to me...because I will reach a bigger market for my stock information subscription without the public fret that [.ke] is taking all the business in East Africa. Michuki...I therefore see [.eac] as an aggressive business strategy complimenting [.ke], [.tz] etc and not as competition. Alice...If KICTANET knows some influential people at the East Africa Community Secretariat in Arusha, maybe they can help get things into second gear with ICANN?? Bill On 6/20/07, Michuki Mwangi <michuki@kenic.or.ke> wrote:
Dear All,
It has taken the .EU over 4 years to have it in place. Its taken similary .ASIA the equivalent to have theirs in place. .EA is entered into the IS0-3166-1 standards table and reserved as the country code for Ceuta and Melilla.
Hence for ICANN to issue a two letter code, it has to be in the ISO-3166-1 table.
There are other requirements that also have to be met for the process to be completed. It requires intense collaboration amongst members of the community to see the application approved by ICANN.
For whats it worth its some discussions that we have been having amongst ourselves and there are challenges to this effect.
First line of thought is are we at a point ready to thrown in competition to our national ccTLDs?.
If to compare with the EU, most ccTLD's within the region are well established with over 100,000 domain names - hence very financially stable. In our region, none of the 3 ccTLDs are above 10,000 domains. Can the ccTLDs compete with the .EA or its equivalent?.
Or is the thinking line that we may eventually move to a political federation and hence no need of the .KE, .TZ, .UG, .RW, .BI et al.
Regards,
Kagwe James wrote:
Anything can change I guess and with the current waves of regional integrations ICANN may have to reconsider its hard stance on this and create another classification of regional top level domains (RTLD) just like the CCTLD's, or something like that.
-----Original Message----- From: kictanet-bounces+jkagwe=aforbes.co.ke@kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+jkagwe=aforbes.co.ke@kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Kai Wulff Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 6:58 AM To: Kagwe James Subject: Re: [kictanet] www.east-africa.ea
Well,
there is .EU .. And take it from me, they are not very organized ..
Kai ----- Original Message ----- From: <jmanthi@gmail.com> To: <kai.wulff@kdn.co.ke> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 23:00 Subject: Re: [kictanet] www.east-africa.ea
This would be a very good thing and would very popular with those businesses that need to do businesses within EA.
But at those time I think it would be very impossible because ICANN rules basicaaly say that country extensions (EA) can only be given to politically organized countries.
My 2 cents.
Joe Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
-----Original Message----- From: "Bill Kagai" <mediacorp.research@mediacorp.co.ke>
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 22:03:29 To:Joseph Manthi <jmanthi@gmail.com> Subject: [kictanet] www.east-africa.ea
For those in the know, how feasible is introducing a dot [EA] domain. With a lucrative market population of 109 million after adding Rwanda and Burundi into East Africa Community...is it possible to have one website with a [.ea] domain instead of having 5 websites for [.ke], [.ug], [.tz], [.rw] and [.bi]?? And may be soon [.southsudan]??
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Michuki Mwangi wrote:
Or is the thinking line that we may eventually move to a political federation and hence no need of the .KE, .TZ, .UG, .RW, .BI et al.
Regards,
Michuki I think that's the idea I also do believe that we are in the early days for all the cctld's and looking at the low penetration accross the board i do think they will be able to co-exist.
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