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Listers This list has always tried to challenge ourselves and get information right. Developments goals are achieved when we deal with accurate information. The Communications authority information on mobile penetration as of end of 2016 stood at over 90%. Yet the GSMA says Kenya's mobile penetration stood at 59%. See link and attached report. http://www.moseskemibaro.com/2016/10/01/kenyas-latest-2016-mobile-internet-s... A few weeks ago there was a debate on this list about Internet coverage. As my teenage son would say:- #GoFigure Regards *Ali Hussein* *Principal* *AHK & Associates* Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya. Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.
Ali Yes, I prefer GSMA statistics as they are the only ones who calculate how many people have more than 1 sim card, and then they only count users. CA just counts sim cards, and many people have 2… Even number of smart phones is not entirely accurate as some people have 2 of them as well, but still number of smart phones is also a decent estimate. GSMA Intelligence is a fantastic resource [cid:image001.jpg@01D3F132.9E622F90] [cid:image002.jpg@01D3F132.9E622F90] Adam From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+adam.lane=huawei.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Ali Hussein via kictanet Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 6:24 PM To: Adam Lane <adam.lane@huawei.com> Cc: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke>; Robert Ochieng' <robrt.ochieng@gmail.com> Subject: [kictanet] of Statistics...and Statistics.. Listers This list has always tried to challenge ourselves and get information right. Developments goals are achieved when we deal with accurate information. The Communications authority information on mobile penetration as of end of 2016 stood at over 90%. Yet the GSMA says Kenya's mobile penetration stood at 59%. See link and attached report. http://www.moseskemibaro.com/2016/10/01/kenyas-latest-2016-mobile-internet-s... A few weeks ago there was a debate on this list about Internet coverage. As my teenage son would say:- #GoFigure Regards Ali Hussein Principal AHK & Associates Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya. Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.
@ Ali, during the ICT Week hosted by CA also learnt that coverage does not necessarily mean land mass, it means people in commercially viable areas. Maybe Adam can expound on the same. He had a very interesting presentation. Best Regards On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 6:36 PM, Adam Lane via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Ali
Yes, I prefer GSMA statistics as they are the only ones who calculate how many people have more than 1 sim card, and then they only count users. CA just counts sim cards, and many people have 2…
Even number of smart phones is not entirely accurate as some people have 2 of them as well, but still number of smart phones is also a decent estimate.
GSMA Intelligence is a fantastic resource
Adam
*From:* kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+adam.lane=huawei.com@lists. kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Ali Hussein via kictanet *Sent:* Monday, May 21, 2018 6:24 PM *To:* Adam Lane <adam.lane@huawei.com> *Cc:* Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke>; Robert Ochieng' < robrt.ochieng@gmail.com> *Subject:* [kictanet] of Statistics...and Statistics..
Listers
This list has always tried to challenge ourselves and get information right. Developments goals are achieved when we deal with accurate information.
The Communications authority information on mobile penetration as of end of 2016 stood at over 90%. Yet the GSMA says Kenya's mobile penetration stood at 59%. See link and attached report.
http://www.moseskemibaro.com/2016/10/01/kenyas-latest-2016- mobile-internet-statistics/
A few weeks ago there was a debate on this list about Internet coverage.
As my teenage son would say:-
#GoFigure
Regards
*Ali Hussein*
*Principal*
*AHK & Associates*
Tel: +254 713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
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Thanks Barrack and all You see how this can make one arrive at wrong decisions? Can the CA care to comment on this? Ali Hussein Principal AHK & Associates +254 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle Sent from my iPad
On 21 May 2018, at 7:52 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@ Ali, during the ICT Week hosted by CA also learnt that coverage does not necessarily mean land mass, it means people in commercially viable areas. Maybe Adam can expound on the same. He had a very interesting presentation.
Best Regards
On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 6:36 PM, Adam Lane via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Ali
Yes, I prefer GSMA statistics as they are the only ones who calculate how many people have more than 1 sim card, and then they only count users. CA just counts sim cards, and many people have 2…
Even number of smart phones is not entirely accurate as some people have 2 of them as well, but still number of smart phones is also a decent estimate.
GSMA Intelligence is a fantastic resource
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Adam
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+adam.lane=huawei.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Ali Hussein via kictanet Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 6:24 PM To: Adam Lane <adam.lane@huawei.com> Cc: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke>; Robert Ochieng' <robrt.ochieng@gmail.com> Subject: [kictanet] of Statistics...and Statistics..
Listers
This list has always tried to challenge ourselves and get information right. Developments goals are achieved when we deal with accurate information.
The Communications authority information on mobile penetration as of end of 2016 stood at over 90%. Yet the GSMA says Kenya's mobile penetration stood at 59%. See link and attached report.
http://www.moseskemibaro.com/2016/10/01/kenyas-latest-2016-mobile-internet-s...
A few weeks ago there was a debate on this list about Internet coverage.
As my teenage son would say:-
#GoFigure
Regards
Ali Hussein Principal AHK & Associates
Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya.
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This is an interesting discussion seeing how these figures are central to policy making. The most widely available indicators are from the supply-side (reports from telecommunication operators) but they have significant concerns including over-counting due to multiple access devices or inactive subscriptions, and under-counting due to shared subscriptions. The demand-side indicators (household surveys, for example) are more reliable than supply side ones but they are expensive and thus limited in frequency. The International Telecommunication Union (ITU) devoted considerable attention to accuracy of statistics in its 2016 ‘Measuring the Information Society Report’ which can be found here <https://www.itu.int/en/ITU-D/Statistics/Pages/publications/mis2016.aspx>. An interesting proposal - OTTs should report their country level statistics. WhatsApp, Telegram, for example, should give quarterly usage statistics, just like Safaricom gives tries to estimate user base. Or at least on request, such statistics should be available for policy and research development. -Moses
On 21 May 2018, at 20:00, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Thanks Barrack and all
You see how this can make one arrive at wrong decisions?
Can the CA care to comment on this?
Ali Hussein Principal AHK & Associates +254 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle
Sent from my iPad
On 21 May 2018, at 7:52 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote:
@ Ali, during the ICT Week hosted by CA also learnt that coverage does not necessarily mean land mass, it means people in commercially viable areas. Maybe Adam can expound on the same. He had a very interesting presentation.
Best Regards
On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 6:36 PM, Adam Lane via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: Ali
Yes, I prefer GSMA statistics as they are the only ones who calculate how many people have more than 1 sim card, and then they only count users. CA just counts sim cards, and many people have 2…
Even number of smart phones is not entirely accurate as some people have 2 of them as well, but still number of smart phones is also a decent estimate.
GSMA Intelligence is a fantastic resource
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Adam
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+adam.lane <mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Badam.lane>=huawei.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:huawei.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke>] On Behalf Of Ali Hussein via kictanet Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 6:24 PM To: Adam Lane <adam.lane@huawei.com <mailto:adam.lane@huawei.com>> Cc: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke <mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke>>; Robert Ochieng' <robrt.ochieng@gmail.com <mailto:robrt.ochieng@gmail.com>> Subject: [kictanet] of Statistics...and Statistics..
Listers
This list has always tried to challenge ourselves and get information right. Developments goals are achieved when we deal with accurate information.
The Communications authority information on mobile penetration as of end of 2016 stood at over 90%. Yet the GSMA says Kenya's mobile penetration stood at 59%. See link and attached report.
http://www.moseskemibaro.com/2016/10/01/kenyas-latest-2016-mobile-internet-s... <http://www.moseskemibaro.com/2016/10/01/kenyas-latest-2016-mobile-internet-statistics/>
A few weeks ago there was a debate on this list about Internet coverage.
As my teenage son would say:-
#GoFigure
Regards
Ali Hussein Principal AHK & Associates
Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
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It’s common to only focus on population not land mass; Australia may be an extreme case but there they have 99% population covered by 3G or 4G, but only about 10% of the land. Ideally it would be great to at least make a phone call in the middle of nowhere in case an emergency with cattle rustling or need of an ambulance but it is unlikely to happen: we just need to aim for 99% or so of population (probably with a definition of any settlement with greater than 500 people or so). As I discussed at ICT Week, our latest products lower their cost partly due to reducing the distance of the signal and thus only focusing on the few km where people live and not the empty area around. This would not fulfil current USF requirements though (Which require a larger coverage). Adam From: Barrack Otieno [mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 7:53 PM To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Cc: Adam Lane <adam.lane@huawei.com>; Robert Ochieng' <robrt.ochieng@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] of Statistics...and Statistics.. @ Ali, during the ICT Week hosted by CA also learnt that coverage does not necessarily mean land mass, it means people in commercially viable areas. Maybe Adam can expound on the same. He had a very interesting presentation. Best Regards On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 6:36 PM, Adam Lane via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: Ali Yes, I prefer GSMA statistics as they are the only ones who calculate how many people have more than 1 sim card, and then they only count users. CA just counts sim cards, and many people have 2… Even number of smart phones is not entirely accurate as some people have 2 of them as well, but still number of smart phones is also a decent estimate. GSMA Intelligence is a fantastic resource [cid:image003.jpg@01D3F1C0.77DB4530] [cid:image005.jpg@01D3F1C0.77DB4530] Adam From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+adam.lane<mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Badam.lane>=huawei.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:huawei.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke>] On Behalf Of Ali Hussein via kictanet Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 6:24 PM To: Adam Lane <adam.lane@huawei.com<mailto:adam.lane@huawei.com>> Cc: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke>>; Robert Ochieng' <robrt.ochieng@gmail.com<mailto:robrt.ochieng@gmail.com>> Subject: [kictanet] of Statistics...and Statistics.. Listers This list has always tried to challenge ourselves and get information right. Developments goals are achieved when we deal with accurate information. The Communications authority information on mobile penetration as of end of 2016 stood at over 90%. Yet the GSMA says Kenya's mobile penetration stood at 59%. See link and attached report. http://www.moseskemibaro.com/2016/10/01/kenyas-latest-2016-mobile-internet-s... A few weeks ago there was a debate on this list about Internet coverage. As my teenage son would say:- #GoFigure Regards Ali Hussein Principal AHK & Associates Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya. Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/ Domain Registration sponsored by www.eacdirectory.co.ke<http://www.eacdirectory.co.ke> Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/otieno.barrack%40gmail... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254733206359 Skype: barrack.otieno PGP ID: 0x2611D86A
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