Re: [kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 61, Issue 89
Alice, On the ITU national consultation process, I could be wrong but I'm yet to see even one national process in Africa...the positions seem to have been consolidated within the ATU process, and not sure how bottom up or open to comment that is. So the rhetoric that the ITU is trying to fight is not being helped by the opaqueness re the process by people can contribute / participate. Ory I try to keep my emails short and to the point: http://emailcharter.org/
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1. Re: Articles, Speeches, Blogs and Publications about ITU and the ITRs] (Ali Hussein) 2. Re: Articles, Speeches, Blogs and Publications about ITU and the ITRs] (alice@apc.org) 3. Broadcast, Film & Music Africa Conference, Nairobi 10-11 July (Sean Moroney)
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Message: 1 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 15:51:55 +0300 From: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> To: alice@apc.org Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Articles, Speeches, Blogs and Publications about ITU and the ITRs] Message-ID: <CAPjmBy2TF_3Xh3mEVNNZ2cXcPRQqqX4oD8BLhNM6GC967nU-ww@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Alice
Very useful and vindication of the process we have started. Thanks!
Ali Hussein
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 3:47 PM, <alice@apc.org> wrote:
> > Dear All, > > I could send to you a much longer list of similar articles, blogs and > publications about alleged ITU plans to take control of the Internet. I > could also send to you many which state the contrary. But none of
Hi Ory and all I am not sure there is any African country that has made the effort to organise national level consultations but if we borrow a leaf from our past experience in developing ICT related policies and regulations, including the most recent data protection and FOI discussions, it would be important for national consultations on ITRs. Best Alice this
> will be of any use. > > The last meeting of the Council Working Group (CWG) for WCIT
started this
> morning 20 June and ends on 22 June. Find attached the speech of
ITU
> Secretary-General, Dr. Hamadoun I. Tour?, delivered today at the
opening
> of this last CWG WCIT meeting. > > ITU has 193 Member States. The decision on the content of the
revised ITRs
> will be made by ITU Membership at the end of this year (3-14
December)
> during the WCIT in Dubai. > For those of you who represent your countries in ITU, I would
encourage
> you to increase the involvement of the citizens of your countries
in your
> national consultations during this process. I would also hope
that your
> positions and views regarding ITU and the process to review the
ITRs are
> based on actual proposals and discussions taking place in the
appropriate
> ITU forums dealing with this subject and not necessarily on blogs, > publications, speeches and media reports many of which do not
accurately
> reflect the facts. > > Also, please find attached a WCIT background brief which I hope
will be
> helpful to have a basic understanding of what the ITRs are and the
roles
> of sovereign states in the process leading to the review of this
Treaty
> (the ITRs). Please feel free to share this brief and the speech of
ITU
> Secretary-General as you consider appropriate. > > For reliable and up-to-date information about ITU, the ITRs and WCIT, > please visit www.itu.int/wcit<http://www.itu.int/wcit> > > Regards, > > Alexander NTOKO > ITU Representative (Observer) to the GAC > Chief, Operations and Planning Department > Telecommunication Standardization Bureau (TSB) > International Telecommunication Union (ITU) > _______________________________________________ > gac mailing list > gac@gac.icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gac > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder
platform
> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in
the ICT
> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and
development.
> > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable
behaviors
> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and
bandwidth,
> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect
privacy, do
> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >
--
*Ali Hussein|Managing Partner*
* *Telemedia Africa Azania Technology Group
Chaka Court, Argwings Kodhek Road
P O Box 14556-00100
Office: +254 737 751409
Cell: +254 773/713 601113
*Nairobi, Kenya*
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
"You generally hear that what a man doesn't know doesn't hurt him,
but in
business what a man doesn't know does hurt.". - E. St. Elmo Lewis,
member,
Advertising Hall of Fame
Alice, On the ITU national consultation process, I could be wrong but I'm yet to see even one national process in Africa...the positions seem to have been consolidated within the ATU process, and not sure how bottom up or open to comment that is. So the rhetoric that the ITU is trying to fight is not being helped by the opaqueness re the process by people can contribute / participate. Ory I try to keep my emails short and to the point: http://emailcharter.org/
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1. Re: Articles, Speeches, Blogs and Publications about ITU and the ITRs] (Ali Hussein) 2. Re: Articles, Speeches, Blogs and Publications about ITU and the ITRs] (alice@apc.org) 3. Broadcast, Film & Music Africa Conference, Nairobi 10-11 July (Sean Moroney)
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Message: 1 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 15:51:55 +0300 From: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> To: alice@apc.org Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Articles, Speeches, Blogs and Publications about ITU and the ITRs] Message-ID: <CAPjmBy2TF_3Xh3mEVNNZ2cXcPRQqqX4oD8BLhNM6GC967nU-ww@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Alice
Very useful and vindication of the process we have started. Thanks!
Ali Hussein
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 3:47 PM, <alice@apc.org> wrote:
> > Dear All, > > I could send to you a much longer list of similar articles, blogs and > publications about alleged ITU plans to take control of the Internet. I > could also send to you many which state the contrary. But none of
> will be of any use. > > The last meeting of the Council Working Group (CWG) for WCIT started this > morning 20 June and ends on 22 June. Find attached the speech of ITU > Secretary-General, Dr. Hamadoun I. Tour?, delivered today at the opening > of this last CWG WCIT meeting. > > ITU has 193 Member States. The decision on the content of the revised ITRs > will be made by ITU Membership at the end of this year (3-14 December) > during the WCIT in Dubai. > For those of you who represent your countries in ITU, I would encourage > you to increase the involvement of the citizens of your countries in your > national consultations during this process. I would also hope
> positions and views regarding ITU and the process to review the ITRs are > based on actual proposals and discussions taking place in the appropriate > ITU forums dealing with this subject and not necessarily on blogs, > publications, speeches and media reports many of which do not accurately > reflect the facts. > > Also, please find attached a WCIT background brief which I hope will be > helpful to have a basic understanding of what the ITRs are and the roles > of sovereign states in the process leading to the review of this Treaty > (the ITRs). Please feel free to share this brief and the speech of ITU > Secretary-General as you consider appropriate. > > For reliable and up-to-date information about ITU, the ITRs and WCIT, > please visit www.itu.int/wcit<http://www.itu.int/wcit> > > Regards, > > Alexander NTOKO > ITU Representative (Observer) to the GAC > Chief, Operations and Planning Department > Telecommunication Standardization Bureau (TSB) > International Telecommunication Union (ITU) > _______________________________________________ > gac mailing list > gac@gac.icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gac > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder
> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in
> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect
@Alice, You have been on the ICT International scene longer than most of us and so I find it interesting that you now expect ITU and its Government membership to "consult" stakeholders before they vote on an issue... Plse remember to ping/wake me up when that happens :-). walu. --- On Wed, 6/20/12, alice@apc.org <alice@apc.org> wrote: From: alice@apc.org <alice@apc.org> Subject: Re: [kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 61, Issue 89 To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Wednesday, June 20, 2012, 6:30 PM Hi Ory and all I am not sure there is any African country that has made the effort to organise national level consultations but if we borrow a leaf from our past experience in developing ICT related policies and regulations, including the most recent data protection and FOI discussions, it would be important for national consultations on ITRs. Best Alice this that your platform the ICT privacy, do
> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >
--
*Ali Hussein|Managing Partner*
* *Telemedia Africa Azania Technology Group
Chaka Court, Argwings Kodhek Road
P O Box 14556-00100
Office: +254 737 751409
Cell: +254 773/713 601113
*Nairobi, Kenya*
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
"You generally hear that what a man doesn't know doesn't hurt him, but in business what a man doesn't know does hurt.". - E. St. Elmo Lewis, member, Advertising Hall of Fame
@walu, I have very high hopes and "faith" :) (hope I am not living in wonderland). It has happened in the Netherlands, see later post, it can happen, I believe WSIS and some of our very good examples have provided for new ways of policy development. Best Alice
@Alice,
You have been on the ICT International scene longer than most of us and so I find it interesting that you now expect ITU and its Government membership to "consult" stakeholders before they vote on an issue...
Plse remember to ping/wake me up when that happens :-).
walu.
--- On Wed, 6/20/12, alice@apc.org <alice@apc.org> wrote:
From: alice@apc.org <alice@apc.org> Subject: Re: [kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 61, Issue 89 To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Wednesday, June 20, 2012, 6:30 PM
Hi Ory and all
I am not sure there is any African country that has made the effort to organise national level consultations but if we borrow a leaf from our past experience in developing ICT related policies and regulations, including the most recent data protection and FOI discussions, it would be important for national consultations on ITRs.
Best
Alice
Alice, On the ITU national consultation process, I could be wrong but I'm yet to see even one national process in Africa...the positions seem to have been consolidated within the ATU process, and not sure how bottom up or open to comment that is. So the rhetoric that the ITU is trying to fight is not being helped by the opaqueness re the process by people can contribute / participate. Ory I try to keep my emails short and to the point: http://emailcharter.org/
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1. Re: Articles, Speeches, Blogs and Publications about ITU and the ITRs] (Ali Hussein) 2. Re: Articles, Speeches, Blogs and Publications about ITU and the ITRs] (alice@apc.org) 3. Broadcast, Film & Music Africa Conference, Nairobi 10-11 July (Sean Moroney)
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Message: 1 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 15:51:55 +0300 From: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> To: alice@apc.org Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Articles, Speeches, Blogs and Publications about ITU and the ITRs] Message-ID: <CAPjmBy2TF_3Xh3mEVNNZ2cXcPRQqqX4oD8BLhNM6GC967nU-ww@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Alice
Very useful and vindication of the process we have started. Thanks!
Ali Hussein
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 3:47 PM, <alice@apc.org> wrote:
> > Dear All, > > I could send to you a much longer list of similar articles, blogs and > publications about alleged ITU plans to take control of the Internet. I > could also send to you many which state the contrary. But none of this > will be of any use. > > The last meeting of the Council Working Group (CWG) for WCIT started this > morning 20 June and ends on 22 June. Find attached the speech of ITU > Secretary-General, Dr. Hamadoun I. Tour?, delivered today at the opening > of this last CWG WCIT meeting. > > ITU has 193 Member States. The decision on the content of the revised ITRs > will be made by ITU Membership at the end of this year (3-14 December) > during the WCIT in Dubai. > For those of you who represent your countries in ITU, I would encourage > you to increase the involvement of the citizens of your countries in your > national consultations during this process. I would also hope that your > positions and views regarding ITU and the process to review the ITRs are > based on actual proposals and discussions taking place in the appropriate > ITU forums dealing with this subject and not necessarily on blogs, > publications, speeches and media reports many of which do not accurately > reflect the facts. > > Also, please find attached a WCIT background brief which I hope will be > helpful to have a basic understanding of what the ITRs are and the roles > of sovereign states in the process leading to the review of this Treaty > (the ITRs). Please feel free to share this brief and the speech of ITU > Secretary-General as you consider appropriate. > > For reliable and up-to-date information about ITU, the ITRs and WCIT, > please visit www.itu.int/wcit<http://www.itu.int/wcit> > > Regards, > > Alexander NTOKO > ITU Representative (Observer) to the GAC > Chief, Operations and Planning Department > Telecommunication Standardization Bureau (TSB) > International Telecommunication Union (ITU) > _______________________________________________ > gac mailing list > gac@gac.icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gac > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >
--
*Ali Hussein|Managing Partner*
* *Telemedia Africa Azania Technology Group
Chaka Court, Argwings Kodhek Road
P O Box 14556-00100
Office: +254 737 751409
Cell: +254 773/713 601113
*Nairobi, Kenya*
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
"You generally hear that what a man doesn't know doesn't hurt him, but in business what a man doesn't know does hurt.". - E. St. Elmo Lewis, member, Advertising Hall of Fame
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