Orange to exit, CS to yank the NOFBI contract from orange
It's now clear that Orange will be exiting the East African market by end of the year. In an apparent related development the CS has given Orange notice that the Government intends to cancel the NOFBI contract. This is as it should be. The Government is making the right move yanking this out of a partner who unfortunately through either ineptitude or inability to read the market or both has turned one of Kenya's Crown Jewels into so much confetti.. I'm curious though what next for NOFBI? Will it be collapsed into the new proposed PPP for infrastructure? I'm sure the industry will be following this with interest. http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/Orange-exit-set-to-rock-telcom-market/-/1950... Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad
Orange persisted in enforcing bandwidth caps even on ADSL losing business to Zuku (Wimax and Fiber) which did not insist such bandwidth caps. Trust local shareholders + new local investors will get a Kenyan CEO/Business Leader to sort out Telkom Kenya. Think of Uchumi supermarkets and how it recovered under sound *Kenyan*leadership :) Regards Murigi / Stanley Muraya *"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32* On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
It's now clear that Orange will be exiting the East African market by end of the year.
In an apparent related development the CS has given Orange notice that the Government intends to cancel the NOFBI contract. This is as it should be. The Government is making the right move yanking this out of a partner who unfortunately through either ineptitude or inability to read the market or both has turned one of Kenya's Crown Jewels into so much confetti..
I'm curious though what next for NOFBI? Will it be collapsed into the new proposed PPP for infrastructure? I'm sure the industry will be following this with interest.
http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/Orange-exit-set-to-rock-telcom-market/-/1950...
*Ali Hussein*
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Any truth to the rumours that MTN might take over Orange's operations in Africa? James On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 9:51 AM, S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya@gmail.com>wrote:
Orange persisted in enforcing bandwidth caps even on ADSL losing business to Zuku (Wimax and Fiber) which did not insist such bandwidth caps.
Trust local shareholders + new local investors will get a Kenyan CEO/Business Leader to sort out Telkom Kenya.
Think of Uchumi supermarkets and how it recovered under sound *Kenyan*leadership :)
Regards
Murigi / Stanley Muraya
*"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32*
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
It's now clear that Orange will be exiting the East African market by end of the year.
In an apparent related development the CS has given Orange notice that the Government intends to cancel the NOFBI contract. This is as it should be. The Government is making the right move yanking this out of a partner who unfortunately through either ineptitude or inability to read the market or both has turned one of Kenya's Crown Jewels into so much confetti..
I'm curious though what next for NOFBI? Will it be collapsed into the new proposed PPP for infrastructure? I'm sure the industry will be following this with interest.
http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/Orange-exit-set-to-rock-telcom-market/-/1950...
*Ali Hussein*
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
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In Uganda, MTN wants to purchase Orange, that's confirmed, not sure about rest of Africa. On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 10:58 AM, James Mbugua <jgmbugua@gmail.com> wrote:
Any truth to the rumours that MTN might take over Orange's operations in Africa?
James
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 9:51 AM, S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya@gmail.com>wrote:
Orange persisted in enforcing bandwidth caps even on ADSL losing business to Zuku (Wimax and Fiber) which did not insist such bandwidth caps.
Trust local shareholders + new local investors will get a Kenyan CEO/Business Leader to sort out Telkom Kenya.
Think of Uchumi supermarkets and how it recovered under sound *Kenyan*leadership :)
Regards
Murigi / Stanley Muraya
*"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32*
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
It's now clear that Orange will be exiting the East African market by end of the year.
In an apparent related development the CS has given Orange notice that the Government intends to cancel the NOFBI contract. This is as it should be. The Government is making the right move yanking this out of a partner who unfortunately through either ineptitude or inability to read the market or both has turned one of Kenya's Crown Jewels into so much confetti..
I'm curious though what next for NOFBI? Will it be collapsed into the new proposed PPP for infrastructure? I'm sure the industry will be following this with interest.
http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/Orange-exit-set-to-rock-telcom-market/-/1950...
*Ali Hussein*
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim<http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
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I think its about time the Govt kicked them out. All they do is whine and sit on assets e.g NOFBI, iPhone, plenty of Land, only existing landline network, etc. I would have thought e would la Fiber where there is now copper but they would rather ask for more money from the Govt On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
In Uganda, MTN wants to purchase Orange, that's confirmed, not sure about rest of Africa.
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 10:58 AM, James Mbugua <jgmbugua@gmail.com> wrote:
Any truth to the rumours that MTN might take over Orange's operations in Africa?
James
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 9:51 AM, S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya@gmail.com>wrote:
Orange persisted in enforcing bandwidth caps even on ADSL losing business to Zuku (Wimax and Fiber) which did not insist such bandwidth caps.
Trust local shareholders + new local investors will get a Kenyan CEO/Business Leader to sort out Telkom Kenya.
Think of Uchumi supermarkets and how it recovered under sound *Kenyan*leadership :)
Regards
Murigi / Stanley Muraya
*"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32*
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
It's now clear that Orange will be exiting the East African market by end of the year.
In an apparent related development the CS has given Orange notice that the Government intends to cancel the NOFBI contract. This is as it should be. The Government is making the right move yanking this out of a partner who unfortunately through either ineptitude or inability to read the market or both has turned one of Kenya's Crown Jewels into so much confetti..
I'm curious though what next for NOFBI? Will it be collapsed into the new proposed PPP for infrastructure? I'm sure the industry will be following this with interest.
http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/Orange-exit-set-to-rock-telcom-market/-/1950...
*Ali Hussein*
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim<http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
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The way I see it, I doubt anyone can come from outside and solve the issues with OrangeKE/Telkom. The solution as to how it could be revived to a top notch contender would have to come from within. Looking inwards, the one firm that could have the Synergies and muscle to take it to Safcom in my best bet would be KPLC! They understand infrastructure, they understand last mile, they understand how to distribute electricity, they could make a play for this. Yes, I know we have the blackouts, but we could work on that. Waithaka Ngigi Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya www.A1.io On 25 Mar 2014 13:07, "Mark Mwangi" <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I think its about time the Govt kicked them out. All they do is whine and sit on assets e.g NOFBI, iPhone, plenty of Land, only existing landline network, etc. I would have thought e would la Fiber where there is now copper but they would rather ask for more money from the Govt
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com>wrote:
In Uganda, MTN wants to purchase Orange, that's confirmed, not sure about rest of Africa.
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 10:58 AM, James Mbugua <jgmbugua@gmail.com>wrote:
Any truth to the rumours that MTN might take over Orange's operations in Africa?
James
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 9:51 AM, S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya@gmail.com>wrote:
Orange persisted in enforcing bandwidth caps even on ADSL losing business to Zuku (Wimax and Fiber) which did not insist such bandwidth caps.
Trust local shareholders + new local investors will get a Kenyan CEO/Business Leader to sort out Telkom Kenya.
Think of Uchumi supermarkets and how it recovered under sound *Kenyan*leadership :)
Regards
Murigi / Stanley Muraya
*"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32*
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
It's now clear that Orange will be exiting the East African market by end of the year.
In an apparent related development the CS has given Orange notice that the Government intends to cancel the NOFBI contract. This is as it should be. The Government is making the right move yanking this out of a partner who unfortunately through either ineptitude or inability to read the market or both has turned one of Kenya's Crown Jewels into so much confetti..
I'm curious though what next for NOFBI? Will it be collapsed into the new proposed PPP for infrastructure? I'm sure the industry will be following this with interest.
http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/Orange-exit-set-to-rock-telcom-market/-/1950...
*Ali Hussein*
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
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@Ngigi I also think Kenya power is sitting on an extremely lucrative opportunity. They have dark fiber allover yet they don't deploy to the households. If every building connected to the mains also had a fiber connection dropped to it then Kenya Power would be the defacto broadband infrastructure provider. They could then carve up the regions and auction them to the likes of Zuku, JTL or Access Kenya. Or be the provider themselves through a wholly owned subsidiary. On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
The way I see it, I doubt anyone can come from outside and solve the issues with OrangeKE/Telkom.
The solution as to how it could be revived to a top notch contender would have to come from within.
Looking inwards, the one firm that could have the Synergies and muscle to take it to Safcom in my best bet would be KPLC!
They understand infrastructure, they understand last mile, they understand how to distribute electricity, they could make a play for this.
Yes, I know we have the blackouts, but we could work on that.
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io On 25 Mar 2014 13:07, "Mark Mwangi" <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I think its about time the Govt kicked them out. All they do is whine and sit on assets e.g NOFBI, iPhone, plenty of Land, only existing landline network, etc. I would have thought e would la Fiber where there is now copper but they would rather ask for more money from the Govt
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com>wrote:
In Uganda, MTN wants to purchase Orange, that's confirmed, not sure about rest of Africa.
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 10:58 AM, James Mbugua <jgmbugua@gmail.com>wrote:
Any truth to the rumours that MTN might take over Orange's operations in Africa?
James
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 9:51 AM, S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya@gmail.com>wrote:
Orange persisted in enforcing bandwidth caps even on ADSL losing business to Zuku (Wimax and Fiber) which did not insist such bandwidth caps.
Trust local shareholders + new local investors will get a Kenyan CEO/Business Leader to sort out Telkom Kenya.
Think of Uchumi supermarkets and how it recovered under sound *Kenyan*leadership :)
Regards
Murigi / Stanley Muraya
*"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32*
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke>wrote:
It's now clear that Orange will be exiting the East African market by end of the year.
In an apparent related development the CS has given Orange notice that the Government intends to cancel the NOFBI contract. This is as it should be. The Government is making the right move yanking this out of a partner who unfortunately through either ineptitude or inability to read the market or both has turned one of Kenya's Crown Jewels into so much confetti..
I'm curious though what next for NOFBI? Will it be collapsed into the new proposed PPP for infrastructure? I'm sure the industry will be following this with interest.
http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/Orange-exit-set-to-rock-telcom-market/-/1950...
*Ali Hussein*
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
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KPLC has those plans long term. THe question is whether to create a new subsidiary or not given their core business is electricity distribution and the fiber business differs in several ways: 1. Different regulator 2. Different competitive landscape (Elec is a monopoly) 3. Requires different sets of competencies and so on. But you are right, KP is a legitimate challenger as is KBC/Multichoice/SIGNET. Back to Orange - THese guys have been asleep...incurable sleep! Internet to the home alone could have been fetching them billions with control of NOFBI and a large urban landline network. Kileleshwa for example would have been easy pickings for them connecting up the whole place as it was being built. I think the faster they are kicked out the better. We have no need for their antics of asset stripping, company devaluing . Regards, James On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
@Ngigi I also think Kenya power is sitting on an extremely lucrative opportunity. They have dark fiber allover yet they don't deploy to the households. If every building connected to the mains also had a fiber connection dropped to it then Kenya Power would be the defacto broadband infrastructure provider. They could then carve up the regions and auction them to the likes of Zuku, JTL or Access Kenya. Or be the provider themselves through a wholly owned subsidiary.
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
The way I see it, I doubt anyone can come from outside and solve the issues with OrangeKE/Telkom.
The solution as to how it could be revived to a top notch contender would have to come from within.
Looking inwards, the one firm that could have the Synergies and muscle to take it to Safcom in my best bet would be KPLC!
They understand infrastructure, they understand last mile, they understand how to distribute electricity, they could make a play for this.
Yes, I know we have the blackouts, but we could work on that.
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io On 25 Mar 2014 13:07, "Mark Mwangi" <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I think its about time the Govt kicked them out. All they do is whine and sit on assets e.g NOFBI, iPhone, plenty of Land, only existing landline network, etc. I would have thought e would la Fiber where there is now copper but they would rather ask for more money from the Govt
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com>wrote:
In Uganda, MTN wants to purchase Orange, that's confirmed, not sure about rest of Africa.
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 10:58 AM, James Mbugua <jgmbugua@gmail.com>wrote:
Any truth to the rumours that MTN might take over Orange's operations in Africa?
James
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 9:51 AM, S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya@gmail.com>wrote:
Orange persisted in enforcing bandwidth caps even on ADSL losing business to Zuku (Wimax and Fiber) which did not insist such bandwidth caps.
Trust local shareholders + new local investors will get a Kenyan CEO/Business Leader to sort out Telkom Kenya.
Think of Uchumi supermarkets and how it recovered under sound *Kenyan* leadership :)
Regards
Murigi / Stanley Muraya
*"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32*
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke>wrote:
> It's now clear that Orange will be exiting the East African market > by end of the year. > > In an apparent related development the CS has given Orange notice > that the Government intends to cancel the NOFBI contract. This is as it > should be. The Government is making the right move yanking this out of a > partner who unfortunately through either ineptitude or inability to read > the market or both has turned one of Kenya's Crown Jewels into so much > confetti.. > > I'm curious though what next for NOFBI? Will it be collapsed into > the new proposed PPP for infrastructure? I'm sure the industry will be > following this with interest. > > > http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/Orange-exit-set-to-rock-telcom-market/-/1950... > > *Ali Hussein* > > +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 > > Twitter: @AliHKassim > > Skype: abu-jomo > > LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim<http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> > > Blog: www.alyhussein.com > > "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world > will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein > > Sent from my iPad > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/murigi.muraya%40gmail.... > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder > platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy > and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable > behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and > bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect > privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >
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@James, The questions you quote vis à vis KPLC are valid. I am sure they are similar to the questions Safaricom had to answer when deciding to go into banking business (M-PESA) - Only that the ICT regulatory regime is much easier compared to banking. It's all about opportunities and their "hunger" for it. Regards, Charles On 25 Mar 2014 15:55, "James Mbugua" <jgmbugua@gmail.com> wrote:
KPLC has those plans long term. THe question is whether to create a new subsidiary or not given their core business is electricity distribution and the fiber business differs in several ways: 1. Different regulator 2. Different competitive landscape (Elec is a monopoly) 3. Requires different sets of competencies and so on.
But you are right, KP is a legitimate challenger as is KBC/Multichoice/SIGNET.
Back to Orange - THese guys have been asleep...incurable sleep!
Internet to the home alone could have been fetching them billions with control of NOFBI and a large urban landline network.
Kileleshwa for example would have been easy pickings for them connecting up the whole place as it was being built.
I think the faster they are kicked out the better. We have no need for their antics of asset stripping, company devaluing .
Regards,
James
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
@Ngigi I also think Kenya power is sitting on an extremely lucrative opportunity. They have dark fiber allover yet they don't deploy to the households. If every building connected to the mains also had a fiber connection dropped to it then Kenya Power would be the defacto broadband infrastructure provider. They could then carve up the regions and auction them to the likes of Zuku, JTL or Access Kenya. Or be the provider themselves through a wholly owned subsidiary.
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
The way I see it, I doubt anyone can come from outside and solve the issues with OrangeKE/Telkom.
The solution as to how it could be revived to a top notch contender would have to come from within.
Looking inwards, the one firm that could have the Synergies and muscle to take it to Safcom in my best bet would be KPLC!
They understand infrastructure, they understand last mile, they understand how to distribute electricity, they could make a play for this.
Yes, I know we have the blackouts, but we could work on that.
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io On 25 Mar 2014 13:07, "Mark Mwangi" <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I think its about time the Govt kicked them out. All they do is whine and sit on assets e.g NOFBI, iPhone, plenty of Land, only existing landline network, etc. I would have thought e would la Fiber where there is now copper but they would rather ask for more money from the Govt
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com>wrote:
In Uganda, MTN wants to purchase Orange, that's confirmed, not sure about rest of Africa.
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 10:58 AM, James Mbugua <jgmbugua@gmail.com>wrote:
Any truth to the rumours that MTN might take over Orange's operations in Africa?
James
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 9:51 AM, S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya@gmail.com > wrote:
> Orange persisted in enforcing bandwidth caps even on ADSL losing > business to Zuku (Wimax and Fiber) which did not insist such bandwidth caps. > > Trust local shareholders + new local investors will get a Kenyan > CEO/Business Leader to sort out Telkom Kenya. > > Think of Uchumi supermarkets and how it recovered under sound > *Kenyan* leadership :) > > Regards > > Murigi / Stanley Muraya > > *"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than > one who takes a city." Prov 16:32* > > > On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke>wrote: > >> It's now clear that Orange will be exiting the East African market >> by end of the year. >> >> In an apparent related development the CS has given Orange notice >> that the Government intends to cancel the NOFBI contract. This is as it >> should be. The Government is making the right move yanking this out of a >> partner who unfortunately through either ineptitude or inability to read >> the market or both has turned one of Kenya's Crown Jewels into so much >> confetti.. >> >> I'm curious though what next for NOFBI? Will it be collapsed into >> the new proposed PPP for infrastructure? I'm sure the industry will be >> following this with interest. >> >> >> http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/Orange-exit-set-to-rock-telcom-market/-/1950... >> >> *Ali Hussein* >> >> +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 >> >> Twitter: @AliHKassim >> >> Skype: abu-jomo >> >> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim<http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> >> >> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >> >> "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The >> world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/murigi.muraya%40gmail.... >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder >> platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy >> and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable >> behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and >> bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect >> privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jgmbugua%40gmail.com > > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder > platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy > and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable > behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and > bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect > privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >
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I suspect KPLC will mainly focus on supplying capacity to ISPs, I doubt they will have a retail push anytime soon. On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Charles Kimani <ckimani@gmail.com> wrote:
@James,
The questions you quote vis à vis KPLC are valid.
I am sure they are similar to the questions Safaricom had to answer when deciding to go into banking business (M-PESA) - Only that the ICT regulatory regime is much easier compared to banking.
It's all about opportunities and their "hunger" for it.
Regards, Charles On 25 Mar 2014 15:55, "James Mbugua" <jgmbugua@gmail.com> wrote:
KPLC has those plans long term. THe question is whether to create a new subsidiary or not given their core business is electricity distribution and the fiber business differs in several ways: 1. Different regulator 2. Different competitive landscape (Elec is a monopoly) 3. Requires different sets of competencies and so on.
But you are right, KP is a legitimate challenger as is KBC/Multichoice/SIGNET.
Back to Orange - THese guys have been asleep...incurable sleep!
Internet to the home alone could have been fetching them billions with control of NOFBI and a large urban landline network.
Kileleshwa for example would have been easy pickings for them connecting up the whole place as it was being built.
I think the faster they are kicked out the better. We have no need for their antics of asset stripping, company devaluing .
Regards,
James
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
@Ngigi I also think Kenya power is sitting on an extremely lucrative opportunity. They have dark fiber allover yet they don't deploy to the households. If every building connected to the mains also had a fiber connection dropped to it then Kenya Power would be the defacto broadband infrastructure provider. They could then carve up the regions and auction them to the likes of Zuku, JTL or Access Kenya. Or be the provider themselves through a wholly owned subsidiary.
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
The way I see it, I doubt anyone can come from outside and solve the issues with OrangeKE/Telkom.
The solution as to how it could be revived to a top notch contender would have to come from within.
Looking inwards, the one firm that could have the Synergies and muscle to take it to Safcom in my best bet would be KPLC!
They understand infrastructure, they understand last mile, they understand how to distribute electricity, they could make a play for this.
Yes, I know we have the blackouts, but we could work on that.
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io On 25 Mar 2014 13:07, "Mark Mwangi" <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I think its about time the Govt kicked them out. All they do is whine and sit on assets e.g NOFBI, iPhone, plenty of Land, only existing landline network, etc. I would have thought e would la Fiber where there is now copper but they would rather ask for more money from the Govt
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com>wrote:
In Uganda, MTN wants to purchase Orange, that's confirmed, not sure about rest of Africa.
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 10:58 AM, James Mbugua <jgmbugua@gmail.com>wrote:
> > Any truth to the rumours that MTN might take over Orange's > operations in Africa? > > James > > > On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 9:51 AM, S.M. Muraya < > murigi.muraya@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Orange persisted in enforcing bandwidth caps even on ADSL losing >> business to Zuku (Wimax and Fiber) which did not insist such bandwidth caps. >> >> Trust local shareholders + new local investors will get a Kenyan >> CEO/Business Leader to sort out Telkom Kenya. >> >> Think of Uchumi supermarkets and how it recovered under sound >> *Kenyan* leadership :) >> >> Regards >> >> Murigi / Stanley Muraya >> >> *"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control >> than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32* >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke>wrote: >> >>> It's now clear that Orange will be exiting the East African market >>> by end of the year. >>> >>> In an apparent related development the CS has given Orange notice >>> that the Government intends to cancel the NOFBI contract. This is as it >>> should be. The Government is making the right move yanking this out of a >>> partner who unfortunately through either ineptitude or inability to read >>> the market or both has turned one of Kenya's Crown Jewels into so much >>> confetti.. >>> >>> I'm curious though what next for NOFBI? Will it be collapsed into >>> the new proposed PPP for infrastructure? I'm sure the industry will be >>> following this with interest. >>> >>> >>> http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/Orange-exit-set-to-rock-telcom-market/-/1950... >>> >>> *Ali Hussein* >>> >>> +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 >>> >>> Twitter: @AliHKassim >>> >>> Skype: abu-jomo >>> >>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim<http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> >>> >>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >>> >>> "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The >>> world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/murigi.muraya%40gmail.... >>> >>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder >>> platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy >>> and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >>> >>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable >>> behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and >>> bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect >>> privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jgmbugua%40gmail.com >> >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder >> platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy >> and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable >> behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and >> bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect >> privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/pkariuki%40gmail.com > > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder > platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy > and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable > behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and > bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect > privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >
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Why not safaricom itself? Love or loathe it, they know how to bring in the dollars back to the shareholders... Isnt that what it ultimately be about to the "investors"? Sent from my iPad
On Mar 25, 2014, at 5:59 PM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
I suspect KPLC will mainly focus on supplying capacity to ISPs, I doubt they will have a retail push anytime soon.
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Charles Kimani <ckimani@gmail.com> wrote: @James,
The questions you quote vis à vis KPLC are valid.
I am sure they are similar to the questions Safaricom had to answer when deciding to go into banking business (M-PESA) - Only that the ICT regulatory regime is much easier compared to banking.
It's all about opportunities and their "hunger" for it.
Regards, Charles
On 25 Mar 2014 15:55, "James Mbugua" <jgmbugua@gmail.com> wrote:
KPLC has those plans long term. THe question is whether to create a new subsidiary or not given their core business is electricity distribution and the fiber business differs in several ways: 1. Different regulator 2. Different competitive landscape (Elec is a monopoly) 3. Requires different sets of competencies and so on.
But you are right, KP is a legitimate challenger as is KBC/Multichoice/SIGNET.
Back to Orange - THese guys have been asleep...incurable sleep!
Internet to the home alone could have been fetching them billions with control of NOFBI and a large urban landline network.
Kileleshwa for example would have been easy pickings for them connecting up the whole place as it was being built.
I think the faster they are kicked out the better. We have no need for their antics of asset stripping, company devaluing .
Regards,
James
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote: @Ngigi I also think Kenya power is sitting on an extremely lucrative opportunity. They have dark fiber allover yet they don't deploy to the households. If every building connected to the mains also had a fiber connection dropped to it then Kenya Power would be the defacto broadband infrastructure provider. They could then carve up the regions and auction them to the likes of Zuku, JTL or Access Kenya. Or be the provider themselves through a wholly owned subsidiary.
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote: The way I see it, I doubt anyone can come from outside and solve the issues with OrangeKE/Telkom.
The solution as to how it could be revived to a top notch contender would have to come from within.
Looking inwards, the one firm that could have the Synergies and muscle to take it to Safcom in my best bet would be KPLC!
They understand infrastructure, they understand last mile, they understand how to distribute electricity, they could make a play for this.
Yes, I know we have the blackouts, but we could work on that.
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io
On 25 Mar 2014 13:07, "Mark Mwangi" <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote: I think its about time the Govt kicked them out. All they do is whine and sit on assets e.g NOFBI, iPhone, plenty of Land, only existing landline network, etc. I would have thought e would la Fiber where there is now copper but they would rather ask for more money from the Govt
> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote: > In Uganda, MTN wants to purchase Orange, that's confirmed, not sure about rest of Africa. > > >> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 10:58 AM, James Mbugua <jgmbugua@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Any truth to the rumours that MTN might take over Orange's operations in Africa? >> >> James >> >> >>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 9:51 AM, S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Orange persisted in enforcing bandwidth caps even on ADSL losing business to Zuku (Wimax and Fiber) which did not insist such bandwidth caps. >>> >>> Trust local shareholders + new local investors will get a Kenyan CEO/Business Leader to sort out Telkom Kenya. >>> >>> Think of Uchumi supermarkets and how it recovered under sound Kenyan leadership :) >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Murigi / Stanley Muraya >>> >>> "Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32 >>> >>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote: >>>> It's now clear that Orange will be exiting the East African market by end of the year. >>>> >>>> In an apparent related development the CS has given Orange notice that the Government intends to cancel the NOFBI contract. This is as it should be. The Government is making the right move yanking this out of a partner who unfortunately through either ineptitude or inability to read the market or both has turned one of Kenya's Crown Jewels into so much confetti.. >>>> >>>> I'm curious though what next for NOFBI? Will it be collapsed into the new proposed PPP for infrastructure? I'm sure the industry will be following this with interest. >>>> >>>> http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/Orange-exit-set-to-rock-telcom-market/-/1950... >>>> >>>> Ali Hussein >>>> >>>> +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 >>>> >>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim >>>> Skype: abu-jomo >>>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >>>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >>>> >>>> "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> kictanet mailing list >>>> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/murigi.muraya%40gmail.... >>>> >>>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. 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Collins, I shared the same sentiments with you, also because the Government of Kenya is the largest local shareholder in Safaricom. But deep down, I have reservations. Market leaders and monopolies should not be strengthened, this is to safeguard the end user, and maintain the quality of service. Safaricom makes obscene profits, yet they are the most expensive network, with poor quality (according to a CCK report). This means they fleece the end user for the benefit of shareholders. For that reason alone, NOFBI should not end up at Safaricom. That would virtually kill all competition in the data and enhanced services segment. If by any means ICTA is thinking of offloading NOFBI to Safaricom, we will go at them with all we have. I hope Mutoro you are listening. Sincerely On 25/03/2014, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
Why not safaricom itself? Love or loathe it, they know how to bring in the dollars back to the shareholders... Isnt that what it ultimately be about to the "investors"?
Sent from my iPad
On Mar 25, 2014, at 5:59 PM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
I suspect KPLC will mainly focus on supplying capacity to ISPs, I doubt they will have a retail push anytime soon.
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Charles Kimani <ckimani@gmail.com> wrote: @James,
The questions you quote vis à vis KPLC are valid.
I am sure they are similar to the questions Safaricom had to answer when deciding to go into banking business (M-PESA) - Only that the ICT regulatory regime is much easier compared to banking.
It's all about opportunities and their "hunger" for it.
Regards, Charles
On 25 Mar 2014 15:55, "James Mbugua" <jgmbugua@gmail.com> wrote:
KPLC has those plans long term. THe question is whether to create a new subsidiary or not given their core business is electricity distribution and the fiber business differs in several ways: 1. Different regulator 2. Different competitive landscape (Elec is a monopoly) 3. Requires different sets of competencies and so on.
But you are right, KP is a legitimate challenger as is KBC/Multichoice/SIGNET.
Back to Orange - THese guys have been asleep...incurable sleep!
Internet to the home alone could have been fetching them billions with control of NOFBI and a large urban landline network.
Kileleshwa for example would have been easy pickings for them connecting up the whole place as it was being built.
I think the faster they are kicked out the better. We have no need for their antics of asset stripping, company devaluing .
Regards,
James
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote: @Ngigi I also think Kenya power is sitting on an extremely lucrative opportunity. They have dark fiber allover yet they don't deploy to the households. If every building connected to the mains also had a fiber connection dropped to it then Kenya Power would be the defacto broadband infrastructure provider. They could then carve up the regions and auction them to the likes of Zuku, JTL or Access Kenya. Or be the provider themselves through a wholly owned subsidiary.
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote: The way I see it, I doubt anyone can come from outside and solve the issues with OrangeKE/Telkom.
The solution as to how it could be revived to a top notch contender would have to come from within.
Looking inwards, the one firm that could have the Synergies and muscle to take it to Safcom in my best bet would be KPLC!
They understand infrastructure, they understand last mile, they understand how to distribute electricity, they could make a play for this.
Yes, I know we have the blackouts, but we could work on that.
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io
> On 25 Mar 2014 13:07, "Mark Mwangi" <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote: > I think its about time the Govt kicked them out. All they do is whine > and sit on assets e.g NOFBI, iPhone, plenty of Land, only existing > landline network, etc. I would have thought e would la Fiber where > there is now copper but they would rather ask for more money from the > Govt > > >> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Phares Kariuki >> <pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote: >> In Uganda, MTN wants to purchase Orange, that's confirmed, not sure >> about rest of Africa. >> >> >>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 10:58 AM, James Mbugua <jgmbugua@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Any truth to the rumours that MTN might take over Orange's >>> operations in Africa? >>> >>> James >>> >>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 9:51 AM, S.M. Muraya >>>> <murigi.muraya@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Orange persisted in enforcing bandwidth caps even on ADSL losing >>>> business to Zuku (Wimax and Fiber) which did not insist such >>>> bandwidth caps. >>>> >>>> Trust local shareholders + new local investors will get a Kenyan >>>> CEO/Business Leader to sort out Telkom Kenya. >>>> >>>> Think of Uchumi supermarkets and how it recovered under sound >>>> Kenyan leadership :) >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Murigi / Stanley Muraya >>>> >>>> "Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control >>>> than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32 >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> It's now clear that Orange will be exiting the East African >>>>> market by end of the year. >>>>> >>>>> In an apparent related development the CS has given Orange notice >>>>> that the Government intends to cancel the NOFBI contract. This is >>>>> as it should be. The Government is making the right move yanking >>>>> this out of a partner who unfortunately through either ineptitude >>>>> or inability to read the market or both has turned one of Kenya's >>>>> Crown Jewels into so much confetti.. >>>>> >>>>> I'm curious though what next for NOFBI? Will it be collapsed into >>>>> the new proposed PPP for infrastructure? I'm sure the industry >>>>> will be following this with interest. >>>>> >>>>> http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/Orange-exit-set-to-rock-telcom-market/-/1950... >>>>> >>>>> Ali Hussein >>>>> >>>>> +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 >>>>> >>>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim >>>>> Skype: abu-jomo >>>>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >>>>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >>>>> >>>>> "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. 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KPLC had concrete plans in this direction a number of years ago and at some point even got sued for earlier efforts (I could be wrong though). http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/-/539550/854476/-/14wl29rz... Kind regards, Muchiri Nyaggah @muchiri Cell: +254 722 506400 Skype: mrmuchiri On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 5:59 PM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
I suspect KPLC will mainly focus on supplying capacity to ISPs, I doubt they will have a retail push anytime soon.
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Charles Kimani <ckimani@gmail.com> wrote:
@James,
The questions you quote vis à vis KPLC are valid.
I am sure they are similar to the questions Safaricom had to answer when deciding to go into banking business (M-PESA) - Only that the ICT regulatory regime is much easier compared to banking.
It's all about opportunities and their "hunger" for it.
Regards, Charles On 25 Mar 2014 15:55, "James Mbugua" <jgmbugua@gmail.com> wrote:
KPLC has those plans long term. THe question is whether to create a new subsidiary or not given their core business is electricity distribution and the fiber business differs in several ways: 1. Different regulator 2. Different competitive landscape (Elec is a monopoly) 3. Requires different sets of competencies and so on.
But you are right, KP is a legitimate challenger as is KBC/Multichoice/SIGNET.
Back to Orange - THese guys have been asleep...incurable sleep!
Internet to the home alone could have been fetching them billions with control of NOFBI and a large urban landline network.
Kileleshwa for example would have been easy pickings for them connecting up the whole place as it was being built.
I think the faster they are kicked out the better. We have no need for their antics of asset stripping, company devaluing .
Regards,
James
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
@Ngigi I also think Kenya power is sitting on an extremely lucrative opportunity. They have dark fiber allover yet they don't deploy to the households. If every building connected to the mains also had a fiber connection dropped to it then Kenya Power would be the defacto broadband infrastructure provider. They could then carve up the regions and auction them to the likes of Zuku, JTL or Access Kenya. Or be the provider themselves through a wholly owned subsidiary.
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
The way I see it, I doubt anyone can come from outside and solve the issues with OrangeKE/Telkom.
The solution as to how it could be revived to a top notch contender would have to come from within.
Looking inwards, the one firm that could have the Synergies and muscle to take it to Safcom in my best bet would be KPLC!
They understand infrastructure, they understand last mile, they understand how to distribute electricity, they could make a play for this.
Yes, I know we have the blackouts, but we could work on that.
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io On 25 Mar 2014 13:07, "Mark Mwangi" <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I think its about time the Govt kicked them out. All they do is whine and sit on assets e.g NOFBI, iPhone, plenty of Land, only existing landline network, etc. I would have thought e would la Fiber where there is now copper but they would rather ask for more money from the Govt
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com>wrote:
> In Uganda, MTN wants to purchase Orange, that's confirmed, not sure > about rest of Africa. > > > On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 10:58 AM, James Mbugua <jgmbugua@gmail.com>wrote: > >> >> Any truth to the rumours that MTN might take over Orange's >> operations in Africa? >> >> James >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 9:51 AM, S.M. Muraya < >> murigi.muraya@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Orange persisted in enforcing bandwidth caps even on ADSL losing >>> business to Zuku (Wimax and Fiber) which did not insist such bandwidth caps. >>> >>> Trust local shareholders + new local investors will get a Kenyan >>> CEO/Business Leader to sort out Telkom Kenya. >>> >>> Think of Uchumi supermarkets and how it recovered under sound >>> *Kenyan* leadership :) >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Murigi / Stanley Muraya >>> >>> *"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control >>> than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32* >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke>wrote: >>> >>>> It's now clear that Orange will be exiting the East African >>>> market by end of the year. >>>> >>>> In an apparent related development the CS has given Orange notice >>>> that the Government intends to cancel the NOFBI contract. This is as it >>>> should be. The Government is making the right move yanking this out of a >>>> partner who unfortunately through either ineptitude or inability to read >>>> the market or both has turned one of Kenya's Crown Jewels into so much >>>> confetti.. >>>> >>>> I'm curious though what next for NOFBI? Will it be collapsed into >>>> the new proposed PPP for infrastructure? I'm sure the industry will be >>>> following this with interest. >>>> >>>> >>>> http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/Orange-exit-set-to-rock-telcom-market/-/1950... >>>> >>>> *Ali Hussein* >>>> >>>> +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 >>>> >>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim >>>> >>>> Skype: abu-jomo >>>> >>>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim<http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> >>>> >>>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >>>> >>>> "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. 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participants (10)
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Ali Hussein -
Charles Kimani -
Collins Areba -
James Mbugua -
Mark Mwangi -
Muchiri Nyaggah -
Mwendwa Kivuva -
Ngigi Waithaka -
Phares Kariuki -
S.M. Muraya