Re: [kictanet] [Skunkworks] 3G prepaid service and tariff - fyi - but get the info confirmed for yourself
3G over-enthusiasm wont last long? if were an excited user and lets say downloaded these videos < http://www.elon.edu/e-web/predictions/igf_interviews_2007.xhtml> Assuming each one is 250 MB, then Safaricom would make about kshs 65,772/= poorer (than I already am). Is it worth it? No! not at shs 12.60/MB. Maths (shs 12.60/MB *18*250 + 16% VAT) Note: Before telcom hiked 128/64 ADSL card to 9,200/= per month, it used to cost 5,600/=. It is possible to download 18 videos in 1 month;) >> at 56,700/= Safaricom internet price is like 1,000% of early last year's ADSL price. Not costs worth celebrating much over. Internet costs keep rising instead of falling "with competition" and the companies cause more poverty than prosperity for Africa. prove me wrong! Alex On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 2:23 AM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
OK, I called Safaricom corporate sales and talked to a person called Mr Peter Oyamo on 427 4099 seeking some clarifications. This guys know everthing... :)
- For existing pre-paid users of the bambanet modem who migrate to 3G ( like me ) , I shall continue to pay the 12.60/- per Mbyte with the option to move to post paid.
- For postpaid users of 3G, if you chose any package and exceed the volume, the extra mbytes are charged at 12.60/- per mybte.
So now you know.
( btw, I really dislike my current OS... not open source. Without my knowlegde, it has already done some silly updates upto 50 MB. So those using 3G on this OS should be wary of hidden demons that could end up costing you a lot, incase you wondered where all those Mbytes went... )
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Bwana Alex, this is my opinion : I think a correction is due on the 3G tariffs. The pricing does not work out as you have mentioned below. The calculations on the post paid service : Kshs 2.85/- to 3/- per Mbyte therefore 250MB = Khs 750/- ( inclusive of the taxes ? ). Their tariffs are as follows for postpaid ( from the print media ) Upto 700MB = 1,999/- Upto 2000MB = 3,999/- Upto 5000MB = 6,999/- Upto 8000MB = 10,000/- Upto 30,000MB = 30,000/- If one were to use it on pre-paid, it makes no sense at 12.60/- per Mbyte. Any corrections are welcome. Rgds, Aki. On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 4:19 PM, Gakuru , Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
3G over-enthusiasm wont last long? if were an excited user and lets say downloaded these videos < http://www.elon.edu/e-web/predictions/igf_interviews_2007.xhtml> Assuming each one is 250 MB, then Safaricom would make about kshs 65,772/= poorer (than I already am). Is it worth it? No! not at shs 12.60/MB.
Maths (shs 12.60/MB *18*250 + 16% VAT)
Note: Before telcom hiked 128/64 ADSL card to 9,200/= per month, it used to cost 5,600/=. It is possible to download 18 videos in 1 month;) >> at 56,700/= Safaricom internet price is like 1,000% of early last year's ADSL price. Not costs worth celebrating much over. Internet costs keep rising instead of falling "with competition" and the companies cause more poverty than prosperity for Africa. prove me wrong!
Alex
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 2:23 AM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
OK, I called Safaricom corporate sales and talked to a person called Mr Peter Oyamo on 427 4099 seeking some clarifications. This guys know everthing... :)
- For existing pre-paid users of the bambanet modem who migrate to 3G ( like me ) , I shall continue to pay the 12.60/- per Mbyte with the option to move to post paid.
- For postpaid users of 3G, if you chose any package and exceed the volume, the extra mbytes are charged at 12.60/- per mybte.
So now you know.
( btw, I really dislike my current OS... not open source. Without my knowlegde, it has already done some silly updates upto 50 MB. So those using 3G on this OS should be wary of hidden demons that could end up costing you a lot, incase you wondered where all those Mbytes went... )
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I note that you agree it makes no sense to use on pre-paid basis, but guess what? Over 95% of mobile services subscribers are on pre-paid tariffs hence my calculations are more real than unlikely. May its the whole idea... Consider this below story (and expect similar shocks will befall many locally :-( I note your "disclaimer" part of the thread "..but get the info confirmed for yourself" :) - - - - - An $85,000 cellphone bill? No, it's not a typo. It's what Piotr Staniaszek, 22, from Grande Prairie, Alberta, saw when he got a Bell Canada bill for two months' use of his Motorola KRZR. Bell didn't make the rates clear, "and should have at least alerted him when his bill started climbing into the thousands," he told the CanWest News Service <http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=164014>, which goes on: "He was using his cellphone as an Internet modem for his computer, believing it was part of his mobile web browsing package. "He said he started using the phone as modem in October. His November bill hit him with a $60,000 charge. Then it grew to $85,000. But, "They never called me when it got up to $1,000 or $2,000 or $30,000 and I kept using the Internet," he says in the story. According to the Globe and Mail<http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20071213.PHONEBILL13/TPStory/National>, in what it calls a "goodwill" gesture, Bell Mobility offered to reduce the charges to match the best data plan available for using cellphones as a modem, says company spokesman Mark Langton. This broiught the bill down from $85,000 to $3,243, says the story. But, "So far, Mr. Staniaszek has opted to fight the charge, his father said," the Globe & Mail says. Meanwhile, Langton said Staniaszek, "downloaded the equivalent of 10 high resolution movies in one month," says CanWest. <http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14334> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 5:03 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
Bwana Alex, this is my opinion :
I think a correction is due on the 3G tariffs. The pricing does not work out as you have mentioned below. The calculations on the post paid service :
Kshs 2.85/- to 3/- per Mbyte therefore 250MB = Khs 750/- ( inclusive of the taxes ? ).
Their tariffs are as follows for postpaid ( from the print media )
Upto 700MB = 1,999/- Upto 2000MB = 3,999/- Upto 5000MB = 6,999/- Upto 8000MB = 10,000/- Upto 30,000MB = 30,000/-
If one were to use it on pre-paid, it makes no sense at 12.60/- per Mbyte. Any corrections are welcome.
Rgds,
Aki.
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 4:19 PM, Gakuru , Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
3G over-enthusiasm wont last long? if were an excited user and lets say downloaded these videos < http://www.elon.edu/e-web/predictions/igf_interviews_2007.xhtml> Assuming each one is 250 MB, then Safaricom would make about kshs 65,772/= poorer (than I already am). Is it worth it? No! not at shs 12.60/MB.
Maths (shs 12.60/MB *18*250 + 16% VAT)
Note: Before telcom hiked 128/64 ADSL card to 9,200/= per month, it used to cost 5,600/=. It is possible to download 18 videos in 1 month;) >> at 56,700/= Safaricom internet price is like 1,000% of early last year's ADSL price. Not costs worth celebrating much over. Internet costs keep rising instead of falling "with competition" and the companies cause more poverty than prosperity for Africa. prove me wrong!
Alex
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 2:23 AM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
OK, I called Safaricom corporate sales and talked to a person called Mr Peter Oyamo on 427 4099 seeking some clarifications. This guys know everthing... :)
- For existing pre-paid users of the bambanet modem who migrate to 3G ( like me ) , I shall continue to pay the 12.60/- per Mbyte with the option to move to post paid.
- For postpaid users of 3G, if you chose any package and exceed the volume, the extra mbytes are charged at 12.60/- per mybte.
So now you know.
( btw, I really dislike my current OS... not open source. Without my knowlegde, it has already done some silly updates upto 50 MB. So those using 3G on this OS should be wary of hidden demons that could end up costing you a lot, incase you wondered where all those Mbytes went... )
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Bwana Alex, You could be correct about the pre-paid tariff issues but I can only comment on technology aspect. If you followed my thread conversations in skunkworks, one can clearly see that that I have highly rated the 3G service based on technology. I managed to do a few tests including one that may have benefit to others in remote areas etc. Some other tests will include using the 3G for emergency, medical and remote systems. These are just tests and not etched on stone. For the tests, I use my personal time and budgets. The technology is here and I intend to make the best of it. And to be fair to 3G or any other technologies, a lot of end users will not understand what it is about if we are to only look at the tariffs. End users may not know that the wind of technology change is with us and an even bigger change is coming in the next 12-16 months. One should take time and check out the skunkworks mails and see the active discussions on technology/applications/opensource etc. We should be able to agree on one thing though : As a data service, 3G is definately the way forward. With Rgds. Aki. On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Gakuru , Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
I note that you agree it makes no sense to use on pre-paid basis, but guess what? Over 95% of mobile services subscribers are on pre-paid tariffs hence my calculations are more real than unlikely. May its the whole idea...
Consider this below story (and expect similar shocks will befall many locally :-( I note your "disclaimer" part of the thread "..but get the info confirmed for yourself" :)
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