Re: [kictanet] Fraudulently enlisted as a member of a political party
Thanks, Dorcas. What does the successful result from querying dubious ID/Passport number like 001 portend in regards to the integrity of this data? Tony. On 5 Mar 2017 13:20, "Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet" < [email protected]> wrote: Hi listers, Please use this link to see if you are unknowingly and fraudulently registered as a member of a political party. http://ppmstatus.orpp.or.ke/ppregstatus/public.aspx I just found out I was enlisted to the Amani Congress Party. Something ought to be done to punish such political parties. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list [email protected] https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/ Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/ mailman/options/kictanet/tlikhanga%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
@Likhanga, That's the question I asked myself too. I did put my ID number and it returned no Party, which is fine, because I am not a member of any political party. After that I did test for 1, 01 and 001, which to me are supposed to be one and the same number (or so I thought). I looked at the names and the DoBs returned and my brain reached /etc (end of thinking capacity) as regards the integrity of the data. However, the fact that it returns data for ID numbers of people as registered with some political parties when they did not raises some serious integrity issues. But is this website (and facility for the queries) official? Does the ORPP say this is official? Kenyans wouldn't bother though. They'll whine in social media and move on. On 5 March 2017 at 13:35, Tony Likhanga via kictanet < [email protected]> wrote:
Thanks, Dorcas.
What does the successful result from querying dubious ID/Passport number like 001 portend in regards to the integrity of this data?
Tony.
On 5 Mar 2017 13:20, "Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet" < [email protected]> wrote:
Hi listers,
Please use this link to see if you are unknowingly and fraudulently registered as a member of a political party.
http://ppmstatus.orpp.or.ke/ppregstatus/public.aspx
I just found out I was enlisted to the Amani Congress Party. Something ought to be done to punish such political parties.
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Both cases can be investigated. On Mar 5, 2017 1:37 PM, "Tony Likhanga via kictanet" < [email protected]> wrote:
Thanks, Dorcas.
What does the successful result from querying dubious ID/Passport number like 001 portend in regards to the integrity of this data?
Tony.
On 5 Mar 2017 13:20, "Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet" < [email protected]> wrote:
Hi listers,
Please use this link to see if you are unknowingly and fraudulently registered as a member of a political party.
http://ppmstatus.orpp.or.ke/ppregstatus/public.aspx
I just found out I was enlisted to the Amani Congress Party. Something ought to be done to punish such political parties.
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@Dorcas, what is the offence to be investigated? 1. Assuming Fraudulent listing, is it the ORPP to blame or the political parties? 2. Assuming Political parties, then the question is, do they give ORPP the register of their members in a soft copy, based on a template (or API) which is then imported into the ORPP system? 3. If (2) is true, then does the system at ORPP have a mechanism for data verification for integrity purposes? 4. What if it doesn't have? Is ORPP to blame? Is there a law that says a Kenyan can only be a member of one (1) political party? 5. What happens when a political party merges with another (like TNA+URP+etc)? How is the data from the dissolved parties then handled? The 1 million dollar question though is: Who has suddenly come up with this facility to check ones status? This is symptomatic of the mess we have with the IEBC voters register. Whereas the register is supposed to be public, it's being treated as some security document - to hide all the mess within. On 5 March 2017 at 16:05, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet < [email protected]> wrote:
Both cases can be investigated.
On Mar 5, 2017 1:37 PM, "Tony Likhanga via kictanet" < [email protected]> wrote:
Thanks, Dorcas.
What does the successful result from querying dubious ID/Passport number like 001 portend in regards to the integrity of this data?
Tony.
On 5 Mar 2017 13:20, "Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet" < [email protected]> wrote:
Hi listers,
Please use this link to see if you are unknowingly and fraudulently registered as a member of a political party.
http://ppmstatus.orpp.or.ke/ppregstatus/public.aspx
I just found out I was enlisted to the Amani Congress Party. Something ought to be done to punish such political parties.
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These are questions the registrar of political parties should be answering. Don't forget parties are business opportunities. You do not want to be one of their illegal assets "members" fraudulently or unknowingly. On Mar 5, 2017 10:16 PM, "Odhiambo Washington" <[email protected]> wrote:
@Dorcas, what is the offence to be investigated?
1. Assuming Fraudulent listing, is it the ORPP to blame or the political parties? 2. Assuming Political parties, then the question is, do they give ORPP the register of their members in a soft copy, based on a template (or API) which is then imported into the ORPP system? 3. If (2) is true, then does the system at ORPP have a mechanism for data verification for integrity purposes? 4. What if it doesn't have? Is ORPP to blame? Is there a law that says a Kenyan can only be a member of one (1) political party? 5. What happens when a political party merges with another (like TNA+URP+etc)? How is the data from the dissolved parties then handled?
The 1 million dollar question though is: Who has suddenly come up with this facility to check ones status?
This is symptomatic of the mess we have with the IEBC voters register.
Whereas the register is supposed to be public, it's being treated as some security document - to hide all the mess within.
On 5 March 2017 at 16:05, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet < [email protected]> wrote:
Both cases can be investigated.
On Mar 5, 2017 1:37 PM, "Tony Likhanga via kictanet" < [email protected]> wrote:
Thanks, Dorcas.
What does the successful result from querying dubious ID/Passport number like 001 portend in regards to the integrity of this data?
Tony.
On 5 Mar 2017 13:20, "Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet" < [email protected]> wrote:
Hi listers,
Please use this link to see if you are unknowingly and fraudulently registered as a member of a political party.
http://ppmstatus.orpp.or.ke/ppregstatus/public.aspx
I just found out I was enlisted to the Amani Congress Party. Something ought to be done to punish such political parties.
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What is more worrying is the amount of raw data that platform spews to the public. Just search a random 8 character ID number, and you get Full names, ID numbers, date of birth etc. You can actually do a query from 00000000 to 44444444 and harvest all names, ID numbers, and Dates of birth, and gender of all Kenyans who belong to political parties. ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya twitter.com/lordmwesh On 5 March 2017 at 23:55, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet <[email protected]> wrote:
These are questions the registrar of political parties should be answering.
Don't forget parties are business opportunities. You do not want to be one of their illegal assets "members" fraudulently or unknowingly.
On Mar 5, 2017 10:16 PM, "Odhiambo Washington" <[email protected]> wrote:
@Dorcas, what is the offence to be investigated?
1. Assuming Fraudulent listing, is it the ORPP to blame or the political parties? 2. Assuming Political parties, then the question is, do they give ORPP the register of their members in a soft copy, based on a template (or API) which is then imported into the ORPP system? 3. If (2) is true, then does the system at ORPP have a mechanism for data verification for integrity purposes? 4. What if it doesn't have? Is ORPP to blame? Is there a law that says a Kenyan can only be a member of one (1) political party? 5. What happens when a political party merges with another (like TNA+URP+etc)? How is the data from the dissolved parties then handled?
The 1 million dollar question though is: Who has suddenly come up with this facility to check ones status?
This is symptomatic of the mess we have with the IEBC voters register.
Whereas the register is supposed to be public, it's being treated as some security document - to hide all the mess within.
On 5 March 2017 at 16:05, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet <[email protected]> wrote:
Both cases can be investigated.
On Mar 5, 2017 1:37 PM, "Tony Likhanga via kictanet" <[email protected]> wrote:
Thanks, Dorcas.
What does the successful result from querying dubious ID/Passport number like 001 portend in regards to the integrity of this data?
Tony.
On 5 Mar 2017 13:20, "Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet" <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi listers,
Please use this link to see if you are unknowingly and fraudulently registered as a member of a political party.
http://ppmstatus.orpp.or.ke/ppregstatus/public.aspx
I just found out I was enlisted to the Amani Congress Party. Something ought to be done to punish such political parties.
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Yes this an official service is provided by the ORPP and is even linked form their website at http://orpp.or.ke/ In 2013 this service was provided using the ORPP SMS shortcode but looks like that is no longer active. My main fear is what Mwendwa has shared, I bet our details have all been harvested multiple times by now! If you are fraudulently registered you can send a complaint to [email protected] as per this tweet <https://twitter.com/ORPPKenya/status/837964053054177280> For people not on email, you have to write a letter and then get your ORPP county contact to collect it as per this tweet <https://twitter.com/ORPPKenya/status/837964053054177280> D On 6 March 2017 at 11:32, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet < [email protected]> wrote:
What is more worrying is the amount of raw data that platform spews to the public.
Just search a random 8 character ID number, and you get Full names, ID numbers, date of birth etc. You can actually do a query from 00000000 to 44444444 and harvest all names, ID numbers, and Dates of birth, and gender of all Kenyans who belong to political parties.
______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya twitter.com/lordmwesh
These are questions the registrar of political parties should be answering.
Don't forget parties are business opportunities. You do not want to be one of their illegal assets "members" fraudulently or unknowingly.
On Mar 5, 2017 10:16 PM, "Odhiambo Washington" <[email protected]> wrote:
@Dorcas, what is the offence to be investigated?
1. Assuming Fraudulent listing, is it the ORPP to blame or the political parties? 2. Assuming Political parties, then the question is, do they give ORPP
register of their members in a soft copy, based on a template (or API) which is then imported into the ORPP system? 3. If (2) is true, then does the system at ORPP have a mechanism for data verification for integrity purposes? 4. What if it doesn't have? Is ORPP to blame? Is there a law that says a Kenyan can only be a member of one (1) political party? 5. What happens when a political party merges with another (like TNA+URP+etc)? How is the data from the dissolved parties then handled?
The 1 million dollar question though is: Who has suddenly come up with this facility to check ones status?
This is symptomatic of the mess we have with the IEBC voters register.
Whereas the register is supposed to be public, it's being treated as some security document - to hide all the mess within.
On 5 March 2017 at 16:05, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet <[email protected]> wrote:
Both cases can be investigated.
On Mar 5, 2017 1:37 PM, "Tony Likhanga via kictanet" <[email protected]> wrote:
Thanks, Dorcas.
What does the successful result from querying dubious ID/Passport
number
like 001 portend in regards to the integrity of this data?
Tony.
On 5 Mar 2017 13:20, "Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet" <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi listers,
Please use this link to see if you are unknowingly and fraudulently registered as a member of a political party.
http://ppmstatus.orpp.or.ke/ppregstatus/public.aspx
I just found out I was enlisted to the Amani Congress Party. Something ought to be done to punish such political parties.
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Looks like they have problems auditing data submitted by the political parties or keeping the data secure. Could be both. On Mar 6, 2017 11:32 AM, "Mwendwa Kivuva" <[email protected]> wrote:
What is more worrying is the amount of raw data that platform spews to the public.
Just search a random 8 character ID number, and you get Full names, ID numbers, date of birth etc. You can actually do a query from 00000000 to 44444444 and harvest all names, ID numbers, and Dates of birth, and gender of all Kenyans who belong to political parties.
______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya twitter.com/lordmwesh
These are questions the registrar of political parties should be answering.
Don't forget parties are business opportunities. You do not want to be one of their illegal assets "members" fraudulently or unknowingly.
On Mar 5, 2017 10:16 PM, "Odhiambo Washington" <[email protected]> wrote:
@Dorcas, what is the offence to be investigated?
1. Assuming Fraudulent listing, is it the ORPP to blame or the political parties? 2. Assuming Political parties, then the question is, do they give ORPP
register of their members in a soft copy, based on a template (or API) which is then imported into the ORPP system? 3. If (2) is true, then does the system at ORPP have a mechanism for data verification for integrity purposes? 4. What if it doesn't have? Is ORPP to blame? Is there a law that says a Kenyan can only be a member of one (1) political party? 5. What happens when a political party merges with another (like TNA+URP+etc)? How is the data from the dissolved parties then handled?
The 1 million dollar question though is: Who has suddenly come up with this facility to check ones status?
This is symptomatic of the mess we have with the IEBC voters register.
Whereas the register is supposed to be public, it's being treated as some security document - to hide all the mess within.
On 5 March 2017 at 16:05, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet <[email protected]> wrote:
Both cases can be investigated.
On Mar 5, 2017 1:37 PM, "Tony Likhanga via kictanet" <[email protected]> wrote:
Thanks, Dorcas.
What does the successful result from querying dubious ID/Passport
number
like 001 portend in regards to the integrity of this data?
Tony.
On 5 Mar 2017 13:20, "Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet" <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi listers,
Please use this link to see if you are unknowingly and fraudulently registered as a member of a political party.
http://ppmstatus.orpp.or.ke/ppregstatus/public.aspx
I just found out I was enlisted to the Amani Congress Party. Something ought to be done to punish such political parties.
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This is a failure at the Govt IT Services Secretariat. That is the ICTA, right? Lack of competence to formulate policies and implement, etc. On 6 March 2017 at 17:02, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet < [email protected]> wrote:
Looks like they have problems auditing data submitted by the political parties or keeping the data secure. Could be both.
On Mar 6, 2017 11:32 AM, "Mwendwa Kivuva" <[email protected]> wrote:
What is more worrying is the amount of raw data that platform spews to the public.
Just search a random 8 character ID number, and you get Full names, ID numbers, date of birth etc. You can actually do a query from 00000000 to 44444444 and harvest all names, ID numbers, and Dates of birth, and gender of all Kenyans who belong to political parties.
______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya twitter.com/lordmwesh
These are questions the registrar of political parties should be answering.
Don't forget parties are business opportunities. You do not want to be one of their illegal assets "members" fraudulently or unknowingly.
On Mar 5, 2017 10:16 PM, "Odhiambo Washington" <[email protected]> wrote:
@Dorcas, what is the offence to be investigated?
1. Assuming Fraudulent listing, is it the ORPP to blame or the
parties? 2. Assuming Political parties, then the question is, do they give ORPP
register of their members in a soft copy, based on a template (or API) which is then imported into the ORPP system? 3. If (2) is true, then does the system at ORPP have a mechanism for data verification for integrity purposes? 4. What if it doesn't have? Is ORPP to blame? Is there a law that says a Kenyan can only be a member of one (1) political party? 5. What happens when a political party merges with another (like TNA+URP+etc)? How is the data from the dissolved parties then handled?
The 1 million dollar question though is: Who has suddenly come up with this facility to check ones status?
This is symptomatic of the mess we have with the IEBC voters register.
Whereas the register is supposed to be public, it's being treated as some security document - to hide all the mess within.
On 5 March 2017 at 16:05, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet <[email protected]> wrote:
Both cases can be investigated.
On Mar 5, 2017 1:37 PM, "Tony Likhanga via kictanet" <[email protected]> wrote:
Thanks, Dorcas.
What does the successful result from querying dubious ID/Passport
number
like 001 portend in regards to the integrity of this data?
Tony.
On 5 Mar 2017 13:20, "Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet" <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi listers,
Please use this link to see if you are unknowingly and fraudulently registered as a member of a political party.
http://ppmstatus.orpp.or.ke/ppregstatus/public.aspx
I just found out I was enlisted to the Amani Congress Party. Something ought to be done to punish such political parties.
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Tony Likhanga