President Kenyatta secures Microsoft support for computers
Whao! When I grow up, I want to work for M$oft :-) Sounds like they are concluding the deal to be on 1million laptops next year - as we are busy tweeting on what Software is relevant for pupils in Standard one. Read on @ http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Uhuru-secures-Microsoft-support-for-computers/-... walu.
Walu, I think its time we focused on other issues, seems this project is a foregone conclusion. We will take stock in 2017. Best Regards On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Whao!
When I grow up, I want to work for M$oft :-)
Sounds like they are concluding the deal to be on 1million laptops next year - as we are busy tweeting on what Software is relevant for pupils in Standard one. Read on @ http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Uhuru-secures-Microsoft-support-for-computers/-...
walu.
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Barrack, As I promised, Prof. Godia accepted to respond to your questions on Kicktanet. You will need to fix e-mail, godiaes@yahoo.com into the mailing list to make it easier to reply. I attended the State House function and Microsoft agreed to do the following: 1. Work with different partners to Train ALL Primary School Teachers computers (more than 260,000) to enable them implement computer to schools programme by January. They are ready to start as soon as the Government of Kenya gives the go-ahead to start the programme at County level; 2. Work with different partners to develop and train at least five enterprises in each County to provide technical support in Hardware, Connectivity and Software to all schools within each County; and 3. Develop a research and innovation hub at Konza Technology Park to support software developers in the region. 4. Work with other Hardware manufacturers to develop a sustainable model that includes local assembly of computers as well as local software and content development that can be replicated in other African countries This will go a long way in realzing our President's commitment to achieving his promises to the Kenyan people. Regards Ndemo.
Walu,
I think its time we focused on other issues, seems this project is a foregone conclusion. We will take stock in 2017.
Best Regards
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Whao!
When I grow up, I want to work for M$oft :-)
Sounds like they are concluding the deal to be on 1million laptops next year - as we are busy tweeting on what Software is relevant for pupils in Standard one. Read on @ http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Uhuru-secures-Microsoft-support-for-computers/-...
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Dear Dr Ndemo, Now that you have outlined what MS will do, maybe you can share with us what is in it for them? I am sure they did not fly in their Global President for nothing. I suspect that they stand to gain immensely from this "partnership". The partners referred to must be their local distributors, or other Government agencies. They will win big and we will lose big time. It would be good to know how much the laptops will cost, and how much of that cost will go to software, or to MS for that matter. If they are offering a free OS, or a subsidised one for that matter, just remember the analogy of dope - the first dose is always free, its the subsequent one that you pay for! Dont even think about the fact that if we give proprietary solutions to our kids, we will be losing the opportunity to give them better options that are available in open source. But most sadly, we have just mortgaged our freedom and that of the future generations. Ikua On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:18 PM, Bitange Ndemo <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Barrack, As I promised, Prof. Godia accepted to respond to your questions on Kicktanet. You will need to fix e-mail, godiaes@yahoo.com into the mailing list to make it easier to reply.
I attended the State House function and Microsoft agreed to do the following:
1. Work with different partners to Train ALL Primary School Teachers computers (more than 260,000) to enable them implement computer to schools programme by January. They are ready to start as soon as the Government of Kenya gives the go-ahead to start the programme at County level; 2. Work with different partners to develop and train at least five enterprises in each County to provide technical support in Hardware, Connectivity and Software to all schools within each County; and 3. Develop a research and innovation hub at Konza Technology Park to support software developers in the region. 4. Work with other Hardware manufacturers to develop a sustainable model that includes local assembly of computers as well as local software and content development that can be replicated in other African countries
This will go a long way in realzing our President's commitment to achieving his promises to the Kenyan people.
Regards
Ndemo.
Walu,
I think its time we focused on other issues, seems this project is a foregone conclusion. We will take stock in 2017.
Best Regards
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Whao!
When I grow up, I want to work for M$oft :-)
Sounds like they are concluding the deal to be on 1million laptops next year - as we are busy tweeting on what Software is relevant for pupils in Standard one. Read on @
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Uhuru-secures-Microsoft-support-for-computers/-...
walu.
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Evans, I do not know much about the sourcing of Computers. This is the very reason I requested my colleague, Prof. Godia to come as a guest on this list. I was purely a messenger. As to what Microsoft may want, I suspect that they want to create a future market. In economics we say if there is a market failure as there is in our rural areas, the Government makes interventions that would create a market. Microsoft will leverage on this to market themselves. This does not mean that Evans too cannot take up the market once it is developed or during the process of developing it. As it is now you have no market. That is why we are having difficulty with the digital villages. Ndemo.
Dear Dr Ndemo, Now that you have outlined what MS will do, maybe you can share with us what is in it for them? I am sure they did not fly in their Global President for nothing. I suspect that they stand to gain immensely from this "partnership". The partners referred to must be their local distributors, or other Government agencies. They will win big and we will lose big time.
It would be good to know how much the laptops will cost, and how much of that cost will go to software, or to MS for that matter. If they are offering a free OS, or a subsidised one for that matter, just remember the analogy of dope - the first dose is always free, its the subsequent one that you pay for!
Dont even think about the fact that if we give proprietary solutions to our kids, we will be losing the opportunity to give them better options that are available in open source. But most sadly, we have just mortgaged our freedom and that of the future generations.
Ikua
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:18 PM, Bitange Ndemo <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Barrack, As I promised, Prof. Godia accepted to respond to your questions on Kicktanet. You will need to fix e-mail, godiaes@yahoo.com into the mailing list to make it easier to reply.
I attended the State House function and Microsoft agreed to do the following:
1. Work with different partners to Train ALL Primary School Teachers computers (more than 260,000) to enable them implement computer to schools programme by January. They are ready to start as soon as the Government of Kenya gives the go-ahead to start the programme at County level; 2. Work with different partners to develop and train at least five enterprises in each County to provide technical support in Hardware, Connectivity and Software to all schools within each County; and 3. Develop a research and innovation hub at Konza Technology Park to support software developers in the region. 4. Work with other Hardware manufacturers to develop a sustainable model that includes local assembly of computers as well as local software and content development that can be replicated in other African countries
This will go a long way in realzing our President's commitment to achieving his promises to the Kenyan people.
Regards
Ndemo.
Walu,
I think its time we focused on other issues, seems this project is a foregone conclusion. We will take stock in 2017.
Best Regards
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Whao!
When I grow up, I want to work for M$oft :-)
Sounds like they are concluding the deal to be on 1million laptops next year - as we are busy tweeting on what Software is relevant for pupils in Standard one. Read on @
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Uhuru-secures-Microsoft-support-for-computers/-...
walu.
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Ikua, I feel you and I am tempted to support your sentiments. But I think this issue runs deeper than whether we should use Proprietary (Microsoft) or Open source software for our pupils in standard 1. My take is we are in a situation where we may NOT have defined the learning objectives, the curriculum, the teaching/delivery/assessments etc. I wish I am wrong but I think we have NO EDUCATIONAL SPECIFICATION of what we want this kids to come out with after blowing 60Billiion Ksh on laptops. In the absence of this specification, you will get all types of vendors surrounding you and selling you all types of hardware, curricula, software, etc. And then the choice of whom you work with, will very much depend on which vendor can pull the heaviest punch - financially speaking. But all is not lost, we just need to define educational specification and then panel-beat all the vendors to do what we want, not what THEY want. And maybe that specification exists but is a cabinet secret - and so we shall continue fire-fighting in darkness. walu. ________________________________ From: Evans Ikua <ikua.evans@gmail.com> To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; "isoc@orion.my.co.ke" <isoc@orion.my.co.ke> Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 8:54 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] President Kenyatta secures Microsoft support for computers Dear Dr Ndemo, Now that you have outlined what MS will do, maybe you can share with us what is in it for them? I am sure they did not fly in their Global President for nothing. I suspect that they stand to gain immensely from this "partnership". The partners referred to must be their local distributors, or other Government agencies. They will win big and we will lose big time. It would be good to know how much the laptops will cost, and how much of that cost will go to software, or to MS for that matter. If they are offering a free OS, or a subsidised one for that matter, just remember the analogy of dope - the first dose is always free, its the subsequent one that you pay for! Dont even think about the fact that if we give proprietary solutions to our kids, we will be losing the opportunity to give them better options that are available in open source. But most sadly, we have just mortgaged our freedom and that of the future generations. Ikua On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:18 PM, Bitange Ndemo <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote: Barrack,
As I promised, Prof. Godia accepted to respond to your questions on Kicktanet. You will need to fix e-mail, godiaes@yahoo.com into the mailing list to make it easier to reply.
I attended the State House function and Microsoft agreed to do the following:
1. Work with different partners to Train ALL Primary School Teachers computers (more than 260,000) to enable them implement computer to schools programme by January. They are ready to start as soon as the Government of Kenya gives the go-ahead to start the programme at County level; 2. Work with different partners to develop and train at least five enterprises in each County to provide technical support in Hardware, Connectivity and Software to all schools within each County; and 3. Develop a research and innovation hub at Konza Technology Park to support software developers in the region. 4. Work with other Hardware manufacturers to develop a sustainable model that includes local assembly of computers as well as local software and content development that can be replicated in other African countries
This will go a long way in realzing our President's commitment to achieving his promises to the Kenyan people.
Regards
Ndemo.
Walu,
I think its time we focused on other issues, seems this project is a foregone conclusion. We will take stock in 2017.
Best Regards
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Whao!
When I grow up, I want to work for M$oft :-)
Sounds like they are concluding the deal to be on 1million laptops next year - as we are busy tweeting on what Software is relevant for pupils in Standard one. Read on @ http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Uhuru-secures-Microsoft-support-for-computers/-...
walu.
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Ikua,
I feel you and I am tempted to support your sentiments. But I think this issue runs deeper than whether we should use Proprietary (Microsoft) or Open source software for our pupils in standard 1. My take is we are in a situation where we may NOT have defined the learning objectives, the curriculum, the teaching/delivery/assessments etc. I wish I am wrong but I think we have NO EDUCATIONAL SPECIFICATION of what we want this kids to come out with after blowing 60Billiion Ksh on laptops.
In the absence of this specification, you will get all types of vendors surrounding you and selling you all types of hardware, curricula, software, etc. And then the choice of whom you work with, will very much depend on which vendor can pull the heaviest punch - financially speaking.
But all is not lost, we just need to define educational specification and
Hi all, I suppirt, PS Ndemo that we discuss the issues not sideshows. Books - it will make no sense, to spend all this money on laptops, then have to buy text books. Let the Ministry/KIE develop standards for eBooks or eLearning in general to be used from Std 1 to 8. Ideally, with a similar curriculum, there us no reason why we shouldn't have standardized testing, like SAT/TOEFL for every term nationwide. So that ares lagging behind can be detected early and corrective measures taken. Replacement - What happens when the kid loses their laptop? What is the replacement mechanism? Who eill supply replacements, at whose cost? Should we give new ones to each new class or instead have each class pass down their laptops to the next? Regards JG On Thursday, June 6, 2013, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote: then panel-beat all the vendors to do what we want, not what THEY want. And maybe that specification exists but is a cabinet secret - and so we shall continue fire-fighting in darkness.
walu.
________________________________ From: Evans Ikua <ikua.evans@gmail.com> To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; "
Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 8:54 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] President Kenyatta secures Microsoft support for computers
Dear Dr Ndemo, Now that you have outlined what MS will do, maybe you can share with us what is in it for them? I am sure they did not fly in their Global President for nothing. I suspect that they stand to gain immensely from
isoc@orion.my.co.ke" <isoc@orion.my.co.ke> this "partnership". The partners referred to must be their local distributors, or other Government agencies. They will win big and we will lose big time.
It would be good to know how much the laptops will cost, and how much of
that cost will go to software, or to MS for that matter. If they are offering a free OS, or a subsidised one for that matter, just remember the analogy of dope - the first dose is always free, its the subsequent one that you pay for!
Dont even think about the fact that if we give proprietary solutions to
our kids, we will be losing the opportunity to give them better options that are available in open source. But most sadly, we have just mortgaged our freedom and that of the future generations.
Ikua
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:18 PM, Bitange Ndemo <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Barrack, As I promised, Prof. Godia accepted to respond to your questions on Kicktanet. You will need to fix e-mail, godiaes@yahoo.com into the mailing list to make it easier to reply.
I attended the State House function and Microsoft agreed to do the
following:
1. Work with different partners to Train ALL Primary School Teachers computers (more than 260,000) to enable them implement computer to schools programme by January. They are ready to start as soon as the Government of Kenya gives the go-ahead to start the programme at County level; 2. Work with different partners to develop and train at least five enterprises in each County to provide technical support in Hardware, Connectivity and Software to all schools within each County; and 3. Develop a research and innovation hub at Konza Technology Park to support software developers in the region. 4. Work with other Hardware manufacturers to develop a sustainable model that includes local assembly of computers as well as local software and content development that can be replicated in other African countries
This will go a long way in realzing our President's commitment to achieving his promises to the Kenyan people.
Regards
Ndemo.
Walu,
I think its time we focused on other issues, seems this project is a foregone conclusion. We will take stock in 2017.
Best Regards
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Whao!
When I grow up, I want to work for M$oft :-)
Sounds like they are concluding the deal to be on 1million laptops next year - as we are busy tweeting on what Software is relevant for pupils in Standard one. Read on @
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Uhuru-secures-Microsoft-support-for-computers/-...
walu.
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Thanks Dr. Ndemo for your response. I must clarify what my point in all this is. 1. It is my belief that Microsoft will not offer everything for free. They are here to make money, which is their inalienable right. So they will offer a few subsidies here and there but the bottom line, and as reported in the media, they stand to make billions out of this deal. As a tax payer, I hate to see my Government wasting money buying software for which they could have gotten better options at a fraction of the cost. Using open source alternatives like Edubuntu could have given us far much better value for every Shilling that we spend. If am the only one who sees it this way, then I must be mad or something. Any individual or corporate that has the money to spend is free to spend their money on whichever software that they want. But public money needs to be spent on whatever product that gives the best value. 2. The strategy for Microsoft as Dr. Ndemo clearly put it is to lock in the market. This way they might consider giving away a few freebies to make the deal look good. But we must remember that they do business for their own best interest, not ours. In the long term, they have a captive market of kids and future systems admins and developers who are beholden to their platform. The result is that they continue minting money out of our economy. What is our interest in this? Do we just stand by and say that there is nothing we can do? Most European and Asian countries have started to see the light here and they are busy developing their local software industries based on open source and open standards. 3. Are we doing anything as an open source community or we are just a talk shop? Yes we are. Camara Educational foundation where I am a director has done a great deal of work especially at the coast province enhancing education using technology. They give computers to schools and support them over the life time of the equipment. They also train the teachers on the technology in partnership with Intel under the IntelTeach programme. They have now moved upcountry and have a presence in Nairobi and Bungoma. The man thing is that their computers come loaded with Edubuntu, along with over 80 open source educational software and applications, not to mention the RACHEL Server. RACHEL (Remote Area Community Hotspots for Education and Learning) are low-cost, scalable deployments of the best open-source software and creative commons educational content available. World Possible curates from leading educational resources such as The Khan Academy, Wikiepedia, CK-12 and many more, making a digital library in a box available in one easy to reference location. RACHEL software then allows any computer to function as a server whereby all other computers can access it's central repository in a internet-like environment. 4. Unfortunately, the President may not know that there is anything else in the world apart from Microsoft. But the people who should be advising him do. These are the people who look down on us and call us dreamers. I look forward to the meeting at Strathmore where I will present my position paper on this. Ikua On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 9:45 AM, James Mbugua <jgmbugua@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I suppirt, PS Ndemo that we discuss the issues not sideshows.
Books - it will make no sense, to spend all this money on laptops, then have to buy text books. Let the Ministry/KIE develop standards for eBooks or eLearning in general to be used from Std 1 to 8. Ideally, with a similar curriculum, there us no reason why we shouldn't have standardized testing, like SAT/TOEFL for every term nationwide. So that ares lagging behind can be detected early and corrective measures taken.
Replacement - What happens when the kid loses their laptop? What is the replacement mechanism? Who eill supply replacements, at whose cost? Should we give new ones to each new class or instead have each class pass down their laptops to the next?
Regards
JG
Ikua,
I feel you and I am tempted to support your sentiments. But I think
On Thursday, June 6, 2013, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote: this issue runs deeper than whether we should use Proprietary (Microsoft) or Open source software for our pupils in standard 1. My take is we are in a situation where we may NOT have defined the learning objectives, the curriculum, the teaching/delivery/assessments etc. I wish I am wrong but I think we have NO EDUCATIONAL SPECIFICATION of what we want this kids to come out with after blowing 60Billiion Ksh on laptops.
In the absence of this specification, you will get all types of vendors
surrounding you and selling you all types of hardware, curricula, software, etc. And then the choice of whom you work with, will very much depend on which vendor can pull the heaviest punch - financially speaking.
But all is not lost, we just need to define educational specification
and then panel-beat all the vendors to do what we want, not what THEY want. And maybe that specification exists but is a cabinet secret - and so we shall continue fire-fighting in darkness.
walu.
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Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 8:54 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] President Kenyatta secures Microsoft support for computers
Dear Dr Ndemo, Now that you have outlined what MS will do, maybe you can share with us what is in it for them? I am sure they did not fly in their Global President for nothing. I suspect that they stand to gain immensely from
isoc@orion.my.co.ke" <isoc@orion.my.co.ke> this "partnership". The partners referred to must be their local distributors, or other Government agencies. They will win big and we will lose big time.
It would be good to know how much the laptops will cost, and how much of
that cost will go to software, or to MS for that matter. If they are offering a free OS, or a subsidised one for that matter, just remember the analogy of dope - the first dose is always free, its the subsequent one that you pay for!
Dont even think about the fact that if we give proprietary solutions to
our kids, we will be losing the opportunity to give them better options that are available in open source. But most sadly, we have just mortgaged our freedom and that of the future generations.
Ikua
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:18 PM, Bitange Ndemo <bitange@jambo.co.ke>
wrote:
Barrack, As I promised, Prof. Godia accepted to respond to your questions on Kicktanet. You will need to fix e-mail, godiaes@yahoo.com into the mailing list to make it easier to reply.
I attended the State House function and Microsoft agreed to do the
following:
1. Work with different partners to Train ALL Primary School Teachers computers (more than 260,000) to enable them implement computer to
schools
programme by January. They are ready to start as soon as the Government of Kenya gives the go-ahead to start the programme at County level; 2. Work with different partners to develop and train at least five enterprises in each County to provide technical support in Hardware, Connectivity and Software to all schools within each County; and 3. Develop a research and innovation hub at Konza Technology Park to support software developers in the region. 4. Work with other Hardware manufacturers to develop a sustainable model that includes local assembly of computers as well as local software and content development that can be replicated in other African countries
This will go a long way in realzing our President's commitment to achieving his promises to the Kenyan people.
Regards
Ndemo.
Walu,
I think its time we focused on other issues, seems this project is a foregone conclusion. We will take stock in 2017.
Best Regards
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Whao!
When I grow up, I want to work for M$oft :-)
Sounds like they are concluding the deal to be on 1million laptops next year - as we are busy tweeting on what Software is relevant for pupils in Standard one. Read on @
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Uhuru-secures-Microsoft-support-for-computers/-...
walu.
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Evans et al,
1. It is my belief that Microsoft will not offer everything for free. <<snip>> But public money needs to be spent on whatever product that gives the best value.
I once listened to a former cabinet minister saying that the government is in the business of spending money and not saving money. With that in mind, the best value for money for a government whose business is to spend money without a view in savings becomes a very remote idea. In addition, in an area where value has not been clearly defined, knowing what the best value for money is very difficult. Before the right definition is done, there will be so many 'offers' some of which will be regrettable and extremely costly. I therefore strongly support the stakeholder engagement happening at Strath. Probably a paper I co-authored could form some interesting background reading for the consultation (available here: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1467-8535.2008.00910.x/abstract)
2. The strategy for Microsoft as Dr. Ndemo clearly put it is to lock in the market. <<Snip>>The result is that they continue minting money out of our economy. <<snip>>
This is an open secret. This is a strategy well document and perfected initially by Apple before the PC revolution. Even without looking at the long term lock down, every parent assisting a child with his or her homework will need to use or be familiar with the technologies the kids are using in school. For the middle-class families, this will translate to one or two extra gadgets purchased (and not subsidised) and expensive license fees paid. Do the maths.
3. Are we doing anything as an open source community or we are just a talk shop? Yes we are. <<snip>>
I agree with you Evans, the FLOSS has a lot of great and interesting activities going on. However, I think we fail miserably in marketing and lobbying. Perhaps it still has to do with the arrogance historically shown by the earlier pioneers of the open source movement (or maybe we were are too ethical to be compromised into connections that are not free and open). I think the one of the greatest challenge we have is communication. For instance, how many people on this list would have known before today of your engagements in Camara Educational Foundation (and RACHEL)? I am sure there are many more open source based initiatives and products that have been tried and tested but not well communicated about. On number 4 below, I am therefore sure the president would have an idea of what Microsoft is, but highly doubt he would know about Edubuntu.
4. Unfortunately, the President may not know that there is anything else in the world apart from Microsoft. But the people who should be advising him do. These are the people who look down on us and call us dreamers.
I look forward to the meeting at Strathmore where I will present my position paper on this.
Please remember to share the position paper. --James
@ Kariuki, your paper @ http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1467-8535.2008.00910.x/abstract is excellent and a good read for the folks at both Min of Education and Min of ICT. However, it appears to be only "freely" available through University networks - otherwise one has to pay. It would be nice if you can distribute "copy-left" copies to non-academia :-) walu. ________________________________ From: James Kariuki <jkariuki@gmail.com> To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 10:13 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] President Kenyatta secures Microsoft support for computers Evans et al,
1. It is my belief that Microsoft will not offer everything for free. <<snip>> But public money needs to be spent on whatever product that gives the best value.
I once listened to a former cabinet minister saying that the government is in the business of spending money and not saving money. With that in mind, the best value for money for a government whose business is to spend money without a view in savings becomes a very remote idea. In addition, in an area where value has not been clearly defined, knowing what the best value for money is very difficult. Before the right definition is done, there will be so many 'offers' some of which will be regrettable and extremely costly. I therefore strongly support the stakeholder engagement happening at Strath. Probably a paper I co-authored could form some interesting background reading for the consultation (available here: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1467-8535.2008.00910.x/abstract)
2. The strategy for Microsoft as Dr. Ndemo clearly put it is to lock in the market. <<Snip>>The result is that they continue minting money out of our economy. <<snip>>
This is an open secret. This is a strategy well document and perfected initially by Apple before the PC revolution. Even without looking at the long term lock down, every parent assisting a child with his or her homework will need to use or be familiar with the technologies the kids are using in school. For the middle-class families, this will translate to one or two extra gadgets purchased (and not subsidised) and expensive license fees paid. Do the maths.
3. Are we doing anything as an open source community or we are just a talk shop? Yes we are. <<snip>>
I agree with you Evans, the FLOSS has a lot of great and interesting activities going on. However, I think we fail miserably in marketing and lobbying. Perhaps it still has to do with the arrogance historically shown by the earlier pioneers of the open source movement (or maybe we were are too ethical to be compromised into connections that are not free and open). I think the one of the greatest challenge we have is communication. For instance, how many people on this list would have known before today of your engagements in Camara Educational Foundation (and RACHEL)? I am sure there are many more open source based initiatives and products that have been tried and tested but not well communicated about. On number 4 below, I am therefore sure the president would have an idea of what Microsoft is, but highly doubt he would know about Edubuntu.
4. Unfortunately, the President may not know that there is anything else in the world apart from Microsoft. But the people who should be advising him do. These are the people who look down on us and call us dreamers.
I look forward to the meeting at Strathmore where I will present my position paper on this.
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Many thanks Dr. Ndemo for the detailed response and for roping in Dr. Godia, this is better information that what we heard in the market. We hope to have the stakeholder meeting in the near future John Matogo of Strathmore has offered to host it so that we can talk to each other in a better way. On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:18 PM, Bitange Ndemo <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Barrack, As I promised, Prof. Godia accepted to respond to your questions on Kicktanet. You will need to fix e-mail, godiaes@yahoo.com into the mailing list to make it easier to reply.
I attended the State House function and Microsoft agreed to do the following:
1. Work with different partners to Train ALL Primary School Teachers computers (more than 260,000) to enable them implement computer to schools programme by January. They are ready to start as soon as the Government of Kenya gives the go-ahead to start the programme at County level; 2. Work with different partners to develop and train at least five enterprises in each County to provide technical support in Hardware, Connectivity and Software to all schools within each County; and 3. Develop a research and innovation hub at Konza Technology Park to support software developers in the region. 4. Work with other Hardware manufacturers to develop a sustainable model that includes local assembly of computers as well as local software and content development that can be replicated in other African countries
This will go a long way in realzing our President's commitment to achieving his promises to the Kenyan people.
Regards
Ndemo.
Walu,
I think its time we focused on other issues, seems this project is a foregone conclusion. We will take stock in 2017.
Best Regards
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Whao!
When I grow up, I want to work for M$oft :-)
Sounds like they are concluding the deal to be on 1million laptops next year - as we are busy tweeting on what Software is relevant for pupils in Standard one. Read on @
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Uhuru-secures-Microsoft-support-for-computers/-...
walu.
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On that note, and considering that the cabinet slots have all now been filled, may be the jubilee admin should consider dr ndemo to head this konza technology park so that he steers the ambitious idea to the next level and takes this laptops idea forward, my reservations being noted. Or? Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: "Bitange Ndemo" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Sender: "kictanet" <kictanet-bounces+dmakali=yahoo.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 20:18:47 To: <dmakali@yahoo.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; isoc@orion.my.co.ke<isoc@orion.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] President Kenyatta secures Microsoft support for computers Barrack, As I promised, Prof. Godia accepted to respond to your questions on Kicktanet. You will need to fix e-mail, godiaes@yahoo.com into the mailing list to make it easier to reply. I attended the State House function and Microsoft agreed to do the following: 1. Work with different partners to Train ALL Primary School Teachers computers (more than 260,000) to enable them implement computer to schools programme by January. They are ready to start as soon as the Government of Kenya gives the go-ahead to start the programme at County level; 2. Work with different partners to develop and train at least five enterprises in each County to provide technical support in Hardware, Connectivity and Software to all schools within each County; and 3. Develop a research and innovation hub at Konza Technology Park to support software developers in the region. 4. Work with other Hardware manufacturers to develop a sustainable model that includes local assembly of computers as well as local software and content development that can be replicated in other African countries This will go a long way in realzing our President's commitment to achieving his promises to the Kenyan people. Regards Ndemo.
Walu,
I think its time we focused on other issues, seems this project is a foregone conclusion. We will take stock in 2017.
Best Regards
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Whao!
When I grow up, I want to work for M$oft :-)
Sounds like they are concluding the deal to be on 1million laptops next year - as we are busy tweeting on what Software is relevant for pupils in Standard one. Read on @ http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Uhuru-secures-Microsoft-support-for-computers/-...
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Is there anybody naive enough to believe Micro$oft is Robinhood? Micro$oft will continue to laugh all the way to the bank, as we debate merits of what platform to adopt. Anybody ever heard of Economic Hit Men (EHM)! I can assure you, we have been hit. Let's not forget that M$ is not evil. They are just trying as hard as everybody else to remain relevant in the hard economic times, and pay their shareholders. But should we do it with our blood? How many new computers are sold with proprietary M$ software in Kenya? How much of that hard earned capital could go into better use, like pay our MPs? ;-) Why have established and developed economies seen the need to move from propietary software to FOSS, to the extend of legislating in parliament? How comes the Open Source community was caught napping? How was M$ able to pull the carpet under them? Probably it's time to occupy Ministry of Education and Ministry of Information and let Kenyans know the merits and de-merits of the government position to partner with Micro$oft. Have you ever tried to change a company who's employees were weaned with M$ and ICDL to FOSS? You will see Organisational behavour resistance to change at it's best. Remember "The foundation of a strong economy don't rest alone on the decision of Chancellors or the spending programs of government" - George Osborne . PS. Lets not forget Dr. Ndemo has a job to protect government position and interests. As articulate and convincing as he is, the government has got this all wrong. _____________ Mwendwa Kivuva twitter.com/lordmwesh kenya.or.ke | The Kenya we know On 04/06/2013, dmakali@yahoo.com <dmakali@yahoo.com> wrote:
On that note, and considering that the cabinet slots have all now been filled, may be the jubilee admin should consider dr ndemo to head this konza technology park so that he steers the ambitious idea to the next level and takes this laptops idea forward, my reservations being noted. Or?
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Barrack, As I promised, Prof. Godia accepted to respond to your questions on Kicktanet. You will need to fix e-mail, godiaes@yahoo.com into the mailing list to make it easier to reply.
I attended the State House function and Microsoft agreed to do the following:
1. Work with different partners to Train ALL Primary School Teachers computers (more than 260,000) to enable them implement computer to schools programme by January. They are ready to start as soon as the Government of Kenya gives the go-ahead to start the programme at County level; 2. Work with different partners to develop and train at least five enterprises in each County to provide technical support in Hardware, Connectivity and Software to all schools within each County; and 3. Develop a research and innovation hub at Konza Technology Park to support software developers in the region. 4. Work with other Hardware manufacturers to develop a sustainable model that includes local assembly of computers as well as local software and content development that can be replicated in other African countries
This will go a long way in realzing our President's commitment to achieving his promises to the Kenyan people.
Regards
Ndemo.
Walu,
I think its time we focused on other issues, seems this project is a foregone conclusion. We will take stock in 2017.
Best Regards
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Whao!
When I grow up, I want to work for M$oft :-)
Sounds like they are concluding the deal to be on 1million laptops next year - as we are busy tweeting on what Software is relevant for pupils in Standard one. Read on @ http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Uhuru-secures-Microsoft-support-for-computers/-...
walu.
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Interesting perspectives, Clearly there is need for stakeholders to meet and talk over this issue, may be GG, can invite Prof Godia to a stakeholders forum and Matogo can give us definate dates?. Since Dr. Ndemo is for it we can humbly request him to extend an invitation to Dr. Matiangi then we move forwad, we need to action this stakeholders meeting. Matogo? Venue, possible dates? Best Regards On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 10:20 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
Is there anybody naive enough to believe Micro$oft is Robinhood?
Micro$oft will continue to laugh all the way to the bank, as we debate merits of what platform to adopt. Anybody ever heard of Economic Hit Men (EHM)! I can assure you, we have been hit.
Let's not forget that M$ is not evil. They are just trying as hard as everybody else to remain relevant in the hard economic times, and pay their shareholders. But should we do it with our blood?
How many new computers are sold with proprietary M$ software in Kenya? How much of that hard earned capital could go into better use, like pay our MPs? ;-)
Why have established and developed economies seen the need to move from propietary software to FOSS, to the extend of legislating in parliament?
How comes the Open Source community was caught napping? How was M$ able to pull the carpet under them?
Probably it's time to occupy Ministry of Education and Ministry of Information and let Kenyans know the merits and de-merits of the government position to partner with Micro$oft.
Have you ever tried to change a company who's employees were weaned with M$ and ICDL to FOSS? You will see Organisational behavour resistance to change at it's best.
Remember "The foundation of a strong economy don't rest alone on the decision of Chancellors or the spending programs of government" - George Osborne .
PS. Lets not forget Dr. Ndemo has a job to protect government position and interests. As articulate and convincing as he is, the government has got this all wrong. _____________ Mwendwa Kivuva twitter.com/lordmwesh kenya.or.ke | The Kenya we know
On 04/06/2013, dmakali@yahoo.com <dmakali@yahoo.com> wrote:
On that note, and considering that the cabinet slots have all now been filled, may be the jubilee admin should consider dr ndemo to head this konza technology park so that he steers the ambitious idea to the next level and takes this laptops idea forward, my reservations being noted. Or?
Sent from my BlackBerry®
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Barrack, As I promised, Prof. Godia accepted to respond to your questions on Kicktanet. You will need to fix e-mail, godiaes@yahoo.com into the mailing list to make it easier to reply.
I attended the State House function and Microsoft agreed to do the following:
1. Work with different partners to Train ALL Primary School Teachers computers (more than 260,000) to enable them implement computer to schools programme by January. They are ready to start as soon as the Government of Kenya gives the go-ahead to start the programme at County level; 2. Work with different partners to develop and train at least five enterprises in each County to provide technical support in Hardware, Connectivity and Software to all schools within each County; and 3. Develop a research and innovation hub at Konza Technology Park to support software developers in the region. 4. Work with other Hardware manufacturers to develop a sustainable model that includes local assembly of computers as well as local software and content development that can be replicated in other African countries
This will go a long way in realzing our President's commitment to achieving his promises to the Kenyan people.
Regards
Ndemo.
Walu,
I think its time we focused on other issues, seems this project is a foregone conclusion. We will take stock in 2017.
Best Regards
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Whao!
When I grow up, I want to work for M$oft :-)
Sounds like they are concluding the deal to be on 1million laptops next year - as we are busy tweeting on what Software is relevant for pupils in Standard one. Read on @
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Uhuru-secures-Microsoft-support-for-computers/-...
walu.
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Barrack, I have asked Kaburo to start a tweet campaign leading up to Friday140 at the I-Hub next week. I shall try get our CS, Education CS and his PS. If by any chance I shall not be there, ICT Board will proceed with the plans since I shall have reguested the guests of honour to attend. Ndemo.
Interesting perspectives,
Clearly there is need for stakeholders to meet and talk over this issue, may be GG, can invite Prof Godia to a stakeholders forum and Matogo can give us definate dates?. Since Dr. Ndemo is for it we can humbly request him to extend an invitation to Dr. Matiangi then we move forwad, we need to action this stakeholders meeting. Matogo? Venue, possible dates?
Best Regards
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 10:20 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
Is there anybody naive enough to believe Micro$oft is Robinhood?
Micro$oft will continue to laugh all the way to the bank, as we debate merits of what platform to adopt. Anybody ever heard of Economic Hit Men (EHM)! I can assure you, we have been hit.
Let's not forget that M$ is not evil. They are just trying as hard as everybody else to remain relevant in the hard economic times, and pay their shareholders. But should we do it with our blood?
How many new computers are sold with proprietary M$ software in Kenya? How much of that hard earned capital could go into better use, like pay our MPs? ;-)
Why have established and developed economies seen the need to move from propietary software to FOSS, to the extend of legislating in parliament?
How comes the Open Source community was caught napping? How was M$ able to pull the carpet under them?
Probably it's time to occupy Ministry of Education and Ministry of Information and let Kenyans know the merits and de-merits of the government position to partner with Micro$oft.
Have you ever tried to change a company who's employees were weaned with M$ and ICDL to FOSS? You will see Organisational behavour resistance to change at it's best.
Remember "The foundation of a strong economy don't rest alone on the decision of Chancellors or the spending programs of government" - George Osborne .
PS. Lets not forget Dr. Ndemo has a job to protect government position and interests. As articulate and convincing as he is, the government has got this all wrong. _____________ Mwendwa Kivuva twitter.com/lordmwesh kenya.or.ke | The Kenya we know
On that note, and considering that the cabinet slots have all now been filled, may be the jubilee admin should consider dr ndemo to head this konza technology park so that he steers the ambitious idea to the next level and takes this laptops idea forward, my reservations being noted. Or?
Sent from my BlackBerry®
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Barrack, As I promised, Prof. Godia accepted to respond to your questions on Kicktanet. You will need to fix e-mail, godiaes@yahoo.com into the mailing list to make it easier to reply.
I attended the State House function and Microsoft agreed to do the following:
1. Work with different partners to Train ALL Primary School Teachers computers (more than 260,000) to enable them implement computer to schools programme by January. They are ready to start as soon as the Government of Kenya gives the go-ahead to start the programme at County level; 2. Work with different partners to develop and train at least five enterprises in each County to provide technical support in Hardware, Connectivity and Software to all schools within each County; and 3. Develop a research and innovation hub at Konza Technology Park to support software developers in the region. 4. Work with other Hardware manufacturers to develop a sustainable model that includes local assembly of computers as well as local software and content development that can be replicated in other African countries
This will go a long way in realzing our President's commitment to achieving his promises to the Kenyan people.
Regards
Ndemo.
Walu,
I think its time we focused on other issues, seems this project is a foregone conclusion. We will take stock in 2017.
Best Regards
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Whao!
When I grow up, I want to work for M$oft :-)
Sounds like they are concluding the deal to be on 1million laptops next year - as we are busy tweeting on what Software is relevant for
in Standard one. Read on @
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Uhuru-secures-Microsoft-support-for-computers/-...
walu.
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Dr. Ndemo, Many thanks for the initiative, we do hope you will grace the occasion, we will keep you informed as we plan and prepare for the forum and will accommodate all stakeholders. Best Regards On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Bitange Ndemo <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Barrack, I have asked Kaburo to start a tweet campaign leading up to Friday140 at the I-Hub next week. I shall try get our CS, Education CS and his PS. If by any chance I shall not be there, ICT Board will proceed with the plans since I shall have reguested the guests of honour to attend.
Ndemo.
Interesting perspectives,
Clearly there is need for stakeholders to meet and talk over this issue, may be GG, can invite Prof Godia to a stakeholders forum and Matogo can give us definate dates?. Since Dr. Ndemo is for it we can humbly request him to extend an invitation to Dr. Matiangi then we move forwad, we need to action this stakeholders meeting. Matogo? Venue, possible dates?
Best Regards
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 10:20 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
Is there anybody naive enough to believe Micro$oft is Robinhood?
Micro$oft will continue to laugh all the way to the bank, as we debate merits of what platform to adopt. Anybody ever heard of Economic Hit Men (EHM)! I can assure you, we have been hit.
Let's not forget that M$ is not evil. They are just trying as hard as everybody else to remain relevant in the hard economic times, and pay their shareholders. But should we do it with our blood?
How many new computers are sold with proprietary M$ software in Kenya? How much of that hard earned capital could go into better use, like pay our MPs? ;-)
Why have established and developed economies seen the need to move from propietary software to FOSS, to the extend of legislating in parliament?
How comes the Open Source community was caught napping? How was M$ able to pull the carpet under them?
Probably it's time to occupy Ministry of Education and Ministry of Information and let Kenyans know the merits and de-merits of the government position to partner with Micro$oft.
Have you ever tried to change a company who's employees were weaned with M$ and ICDL to FOSS? You will see Organisational behavour resistance to change at it's best.
Remember "The foundation of a strong economy don't rest alone on the decision of Chancellors or the spending programs of government" - George Osborne .
PS. Lets not forget Dr. Ndemo has a job to protect government position and interests. As articulate and convincing as he is, the government has got this all wrong. _____________ Mwendwa Kivuva twitter.com/lordmwesh kenya.or.ke | The Kenya we know
On that note, and considering that the cabinet slots have all now been filled, may be the jubilee admin should consider dr ndemo to head this konza technology park so that he steers the ambitious idea to the next level and takes this laptops idea forward, my reservations being noted. Or?
Sent from my BlackBerryŽ
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Barrack, As I promised, Prof. Godia accepted to respond to your questions on Kicktanet. You will need to fix e-mail, godiaes@yahoo.com into the mailing list to make it easier to reply.
I attended the State House function and Microsoft agreed to do the following:
1. Work with different partners to Train ALL Primary School Teachers computers (more than 260,000) to enable them implement computer to schools programme by January. They are ready to start as soon as the Government of Kenya gives the go-ahead to start the programme at County level; 2. Work with different partners to develop and train at least five enterprises in each County to provide technical support in Hardware, Connectivity and Software to all schools within each County; and 3. Develop a research and innovation hub at Konza Technology Park to support software developers in the region. 4. Work with other Hardware manufacturers to develop a sustainable model that includes local assembly of computers as well as local software and content development that can be replicated in other African countries
This will go a long way in realzing our President's commitment to achieving his promises to the Kenyan people.
Regards
Ndemo.
Walu,
I think its time we focused on other issues, seems this project is a foregone conclusion. We will take stock in 2017.
Best Regards
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Whao!
When I grow up, I want to work for M$oft :-)
Sounds like they are concluding the deal to be on 1million laptops next year - as we are busy tweeting on what Software is relevant for
On 04/06/2013, dmakali@yahoo.com <dmakali@yahoo.com> wrote: pupils
in Standard one. Read on @
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Uhuru-secures-Microsoft-support-for-computers/-...
walu.
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So impressed that our President is determined to provide laptops to our children. I however hope that yesterday's state house function was just a "normal" pitch by Micro$oft. As a country we would be going down the slippery path, technologically, if we chose to cage ourself in proprietary systems, while the rest of the world is going open source. We must get it right, right from the beginning! On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 10:20 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
Is there anybody naive enough to believe Micro$oft is Robinhood?
Micro$oft will continue to laugh all the way to the bank, as we debate merits of what platform to adopt. Anybody ever heard of Economic Hit Men (EHM)! I can assure you, we have been hit.
Let's not forget that M$ is not evil. They are just trying as hard as everybody else to remain relevant in the hard economic times, and pay their shareholders. But should we do it with our blood?
How many new computers are sold with proprietary M$ software in Kenya? How much of that hard earned capital could go into better use, like pay our MPs? ;-)
Why have established and developed economies seen the need to move from propietary software to FOSS, to the extend of legislating in parliament?
How comes the Open Source community was caught napping? How was M$ able to pull the carpet under them?
Probably it's time to occupy Ministry of Education and Ministry of Information and let Kenyans know the merits and de-merits of the government position to partner with Micro$oft.
Have you ever tried to change a company who's employees were weaned with M$ and ICDL to FOSS? You will see Organisational behavour resistance to change at it's best.
Remember "The foundation of a strong economy don't rest alone on the decision of Chancellors or the spending programs of government" - George Osborne .
PS. Lets not forget Dr. Ndemo has a job to protect government position and interests. As articulate and convincing as he is, the government has got this all wrong. _____________ Mwendwa Kivuva twitter.com/lordmwesh kenya.or.ke | The Kenya we know
On 04/06/2013, dmakali@yahoo.com <dmakali@yahoo.com> wrote:
On that note, and considering that the cabinet slots have all now been filled, may be the jubilee admin should consider dr ndemo to head this konza technology park so that he steers the ambitious idea to the next level and takes this laptops idea forward, my reservations being noted. Or?
Sent from my BlackBerry®
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Barrack, As I promised, Prof. Godia accepted to respond to your questions on Kicktanet. You will need to fix e-mail, godiaes@yahoo.com into the mailing list to make it easier to reply.
I attended the State House function and Microsoft agreed to do the following:
1. Work with different partners to Train ALL Primary School Teachers computers (more than 260,000) to enable them implement computer to schools programme by January. They are ready to start as soon as the Government of Kenya gives the go-ahead to start the programme at County level; 2. Work with different partners to develop and train at least five enterprises in each County to provide technical support in Hardware, Connectivity and Software to all schools within each County; and 3. Develop a research and innovation hub at Konza Technology Park to support software developers in the region. 4. Work with other Hardware manufacturers to develop a sustainable model that includes local assembly of computers as well as local software and content development that can be replicated in other African countries
This will go a long way in realzing our President's commitment to achieving his promises to the Kenyan people.
Regards
Ndemo.
Walu,
I think its time we focused on other issues, seems this project is a foregone conclusion. We will take stock in 2017.
Best Regards
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Whao!
When I grow up, I want to work for M$oft :-)
Sounds like they are concluding the deal to be on 1million laptops next year - as we are busy tweeting on what Software is relevant for pupils in Standard one. Read on @
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Uhuru-secures-Microsoft-support-for-computers/-...
walu.
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The project looks like it will need support from all directions and particularly the private sector. MS appears to have taken their own initiative. I would only encourage other players to come out and say what they can do to compliment. It does not make sense to turn down an offer of help when faced with a task. On Tue, Jun 4, 2013, at 10:20 PM, Kivuva wrote:
Is there anybody naive enough to believe Micro$oft is Robinhood?
Micro$oft will continue to laugh all the way to the bank, as we debate merits of what platform to adopt. Anybody ever heard of Economic Hit Men (EHM)! I can assure you, we have been hit.
Let's not forget that M$ is not evil. They are just trying as hard as everybody else to remain relevant in the hard economic times, and pay their shareholders. But should we do it with our blood?
How many new computers are sold with proprietary M$ software in Kenya? How much of that hard earned capital could go into better use, like pay our MPs? ;-)
Why have established and developed economies seen the need to move from propietary software to FOSS, to the extend of legislating in parliament?
How comes the Open Source community was caught napping? How was M$ able to pull the carpet under them?
Probably it's time to occupy Ministry of Education and Ministry of Information and let Kenyans know the merits and de-merits of the government position to partner with Micro$oft.
Have you ever tried to change a company who's employees were weaned with M$ and ICDL to FOSS? You will see Organisational behavour resistance to change at it's best.
Remember "The foundation of a strong economy don't rest alone on the decision of Chancellors or the spending programs of government" - George Osborne .
PS. Lets not forget Dr. Ndemo has a job to protect government position and interests. As articulate and convincing as he is, the government has got this all wrong. _____________ Mwendwa Kivuva twitter.com/lordmwesh kenya.or.ke | The Kenya we know
On 04/06/2013, dmakali@yahoo.com <dmakali@yahoo.com> wrote:
On that note, and considering that the cabinet slots have all now been filled, may be the jubilee admin should consider dr ndemo to head this konza technology park so that he steers the ambitious idea to the next level and takes this laptops idea forward, my reservations being noted. Or?
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-----Original Message----- From: "Bitange Ndemo" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Sender: "kictanet" <kictanet-bounces+dmakali=yahoo.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 20:18:47 To: <dmakali@yahoo.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; isoc@orion.my.co.ke<isoc@orion.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] President Kenyatta secures Microsoft support for computers
Barrack, As I promised, Prof. Godia accepted to respond to your questions on Kicktanet. You will need to fix e-mail, godiaes@yahoo.com into the mailing list to make it easier to reply.
I attended the State House function and Microsoft agreed to do the following:
1. Work with different partners to Train ALL Primary School Teachers computers (more than 260,000) to enable them implement computer to schools programme by January. They are ready to start as soon as the Government of Kenya gives the go-ahead to start the programme at County level; 2. Work with different partners to develop and train at least five enterprises in each County to provide technical support in Hardware, Connectivity and Software to all schools within each County; and 3. Develop a research and innovation hub at Konza Technology Park to support software developers in the region. 4. Work with other Hardware manufacturers to develop a sustainable model that includes local assembly of computers as well as local software and content development that can be replicated in other African countries
This will go a long way in realzing our President's commitment to achieving his promises to the Kenyan people.
Regards
Ndemo.
Walu,
I think its time we focused on other issues, seems this project is a foregone conclusion. We will take stock in 2017.
Best Regards
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Whao!
When I grow up, I want to work for M$oft :-)
Sounds like they are concluding the deal to be on 1million laptops next year - as we are busy tweeting on what Software is relevant for pupils in Standard one. Read on @ http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Uhuru-secures-Microsoft-support-for-computers/-...
walu.
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Bwana Ndemo, What happened to your advocacy for local software development? (read: job creation). What happened to alternative open source options? Edith -----Original Message----- From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Bitange Ndemo Sent: June 4, 2013 8:19 PM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions; isoc@orion.my.co.ke Subject: Re: [kictanet] President Kenyatta secures Microsoft support for computers Barrack, As I promised, Prof. Godia accepted to respond to your questions on Kicktanet. You will need to fix e-mail, godiaes@yahoo.com into the mailing list to make it easier to reply. I attended the State House function and Microsoft agreed to do the following: 1. Work with different partners to Train ALL Primary School Teachers computers (more than 260,000) to enable them implement computer to schools programme by January. They are ready to start as soon as the Government of Kenya gives the go-ahead to start the programme at County level; 2. Work with different partners to develop and train at least five enterprises in each County to provide technical support in Hardware, Connectivity and Software to all schools within each County; and 3. Develop a research and innovation hub at Konza Technology Park to support software developers in the region. 4. Work with other Hardware manufacturers to develop a sustainable model that includes local assembly of computers as well as local software and content development that can be replicated in other African countries This will go a long way in realzing our President's commitment to achieving his promises to the Kenyan people. Regards Ndemo.
Walu,
I think its time we focused on other issues, seems this project is a foregone conclusion. We will take stock in 2017.
Best Regards
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Whao!
When I grow up, I want to work for M$oft :-)
Sounds like they are concluding the deal to be on 1million laptops next year - as we are busy tweeting on what Software is relevant for pupils in Standard one. Read on @ http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Uhuru-secures-Microsoft-support-for-comp uters/-/1056/1871904/-/7i517tz/-/index.html
walu.
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Harry Hare, I will write your full names to recognise your presence after a long hiatus you speak like 10 elders. I volunteer to write this paper under supervision of Mr. John Walubengo, Bobby Yawe and any other experts on this list that may want to provide guidance. Meanwhile Matogo has offered a Venue at Strathmore University we hope Dr. Ndemo can rope in the Cabinet Secretary and Ministry of Education counterparts. Best Regards On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote:
Bwana Ndemo,
What happened to your advocacy for local software development? (read: job creation). What happened to alternative open source options?
Edith -----Original Message----- From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera= idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Bitange Ndemo Sent: June 4, 2013 8:19 PM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions; isoc@orion.my.co.ke Subject: Re: [kictanet] President Kenyatta secures Microsoft support for computers
Barrack, As I promised, Prof. Godia accepted to respond to your questions on Kicktanet. You will need to fix e-mail, godiaes@yahoo.com into the mailing list to make it easier to reply.
I attended the State House function and Microsoft agreed to do the following:
1. Work with different partners to Train ALL Primary School Teachers computers (more than 260,000) to enable them implement computer to schools programme by January. They are ready to start as soon as the Government of Kenya gives the go-ahead to start the programme at County level; 2. Work with different partners to develop and train at least five enterprises in each County to provide technical support in Hardware, Connectivity and Software to all schools within each County; and 3. Develop a research and innovation hub at Konza Technology Park to support software developers in the region. 4. Work with other Hardware manufacturers to develop a sustainable model that includes local assembly of computers as well as local software and content development that can be replicated in other African countries
This will go a long way in realzing our President's commitment to achieving his promises to the Kenyan people.
Regards
Ndemo.
Walu,
I think its time we focused on other issues, seems this project is a foregone conclusion. We will take stock in 2017.
Best Regards
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Whao!
When I grow up, I want to work for M$oft :-)
Sounds like they are concluding the deal to be on 1million laptops next year - as we are busy tweeting on what Software is relevant for pupils in Standard one. Read on @ http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Uhuru-secures-Microsoft-support-for-comp uters/-/1056/1871904/-/7i517tz/-/index.html
walu.
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Edith, You did not read the entire mail. The last point emphasizes that Microsoft brings their research lab to Konza and develop software there. The President also emphasized that we need locally developed content as well as applications that solve local problems. As I said earlier, in the absence of a market, let us use what comes our way as a stepping stone to get to where we want to go. I would have liked my children to learn Kisii language to be in solidarity with Gusii people but to be pragmatic, I make do with English. I have used the English to slowly teach them Kisii culture. Let us use proprietary language now to transition our people to open source when time comes. Ndemo.
Bwana Ndemo,
What happened to your advocacy for local software development? (read: job creation). What happened to alternative open source options?
Edith -----Original Message----- From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Bitange Ndemo Sent: June 4, 2013 8:19 PM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions; isoc@orion.my.co.ke Subject: Re: [kictanet] President Kenyatta secures Microsoft support for computers
Barrack, As I promised, Prof. Godia accepted to respond to your questions on Kicktanet. You will need to fix e-mail, godiaes@yahoo.com into the mailing list to make it easier to reply.
I attended the State House function and Microsoft agreed to do the following:
1. Work with different partners to Train ALL Primary School Teachers computers (more than 260,000) to enable them implement computer to schools programme by January. They are ready to start as soon as the Government of Kenya gives the go-ahead to start the programme at County level; 2. Work with different partners to develop and train at least five enterprises in each County to provide technical support in Hardware, Connectivity and Software to all schools within each County; and 3. Develop a research and innovation hub at Konza Technology Park to support software developers in the region. 4. Work with other Hardware manufacturers to develop a sustainable model that includes local assembly of computers as well as local software and content development that can be replicated in other African countries
This will go a long way in realzing our President's commitment to achieving his promises to the Kenyan people.
Regards
Ndemo.
Walu,
I think its time we focused on other issues, seems this project is a foregone conclusion. We will take stock in 2017.
Best Regards
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Whao!
When I grow up, I want to work for M$oft :-)
Sounds like they are concluding the deal to be on 1million laptops next year - as we are busy tweeting on what Software is relevant for pupils in Standard one. Read on @ http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Uhuru-secures-Microsoft-support-for-comp uters/-/1056/1871904/-/7i517tz/-/index.html
walu.
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Hi Barrack, What we need is a 6 year old who is going to class 1 next year to perform an eloquent poem on what he/she expects when they arrive in class next year with their new electronic learning device (ELD)in hand. It is unfortunate that even you have decided to take the side road, we have had months to take a position on this issue but as usual we have preferred +1s instead of actually doing something tangible. What do we expect the President to do when he asks for help and the only people who come to his aid are Microsoft and elk. If you have not noticed the iPad disappeared on day 2 of his term in the same way that Obama's blackberry vanished, the President is and never was on this forum so to get his ear we must go where his attention is, the Cabinet Secretary (CS) has also vanished from this digital domain and gone to the analogue world where government lives and where only documents in hard copy are considered. I like the way Dr. Ndemo scuttled discussions by insisting that we include the ministry and kie on John Matogo's initiative to host a discussion, John also made the error of asking for financial support of this forum, which has proven itself to be a tweet shop. Regards The show is not over until the plus sized person sings. (had to make it politically correct) Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenyag Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; "isoc@orion.my.co.ke" <isoc@orion.my.co.ke> Sent: Tuesday, 4 June 2013, 15:09 Subject: Re: [kictanet] President Kenyatta secures Microsoft support for computers Walu, I think its time we focused on other issues, seems this project is a foregone conclusion. We will take stock in 2017. Best Regards On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote: Whao!
When I grow up, I want to work for M$oft :-)
Sounds like they are concluding the deal to be on 1million laptops next year - as we are busy tweeting on what Software is relevant for pupils in Standard one. Read on @ http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Uhuru-secures-Microsoft-support-for-computers/-...
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Agreed Bobby, Are you suggesting an occupy parliament sort of move *Hides*, Matogo's Strathmore offer sounds better maybe you can be the Master of Ceremony and Walu the Moderator any takers/suggestions for panelists?, i agree with the kind of energy demonstrated on the list there are many stakeholders itching to do something and we need a middle ground or a win win situation for that matter. Best Regards On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:28 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi Barrack,
What we need is a 6 year old who is going to class 1 next year to perform an eloquent poem on what he/she expects when they arrive in class next year with their new electronic learning device (ELD)in hand.
It is unfortunate that even you have decided to take the side road, we have had months to take a position on this issue but as usual we have preferred +1s instead of actually doing something tangible.
What do we expect the President to do when he asks for help and the only people who come to his aid are Microsoft and elk. If you have not noticed the iPad disappeared on day 2 of his term in the same way that Obama's blackberry vanished, the President is and never was on this forum so to get his ear we must go where his attention is, the Cabinet Secretary (CS) has also vanished from this digital domain and gone to the analogue world where government lives and where only documents in hard copy are considered.
I like the way Dr. Ndemo scuttled discussions by insisting that we include the ministry and kie on John Matogo's initiative to host a discussion, John also made the error of asking for financial support of this forum, which has proven itself to be a tweet shop.
Regards
The show is not over until the plus sized person sings. (had to make it politically correct)
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenyag
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ------------------------------ *From:* Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> *To:* robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; " isoc@orion.my.co.ke" <isoc@orion.my.co.ke> *Sent:* Tuesday, 4 June 2013, 15:09
*Subject:* Re: [kictanet] President Kenyatta secures Microsoft support for computers
Walu,
I think its time we focused on other issues, seems this project is a foregone conclusion. We will take stock in 2017.
Best Regards
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Whao!
When I grow up, I want to work for M$oft :-)
Sounds like they are concluding the deal to be on 1million laptops next year - as we are busy tweeting on what Software is relevant for pupils in Standard one. Read on @ http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Uhuru-secures-Microsoft-support-for-computers/-...
walu.
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Hi Barrack, Confirmed, I offer my candidature as the MC even though I suspect you made the offer to reduce my contribution but it is a sacrifice I am willing to take for the future of our children. On a very light note, I hope Walu will not be appearing in court and also that his employer will not have an issue with him "lecturing" at another university Regards PS. Liko, can we use ticketsasa for the registrations? Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; "isoc@orion.my.co.ke" <isoc@orion.my.co.ke> Sent: Wednesday, 5 June 2013, 9:37 Subject: Re: [kictanet] President Kenyatta secures Microsoft support for computers Agreed Bobby, Are you suggesting an occupy parliament sort of move *Hides*, Matogo's Strathmore offer sounds better maybe you can be the Master of Ceremony and Walu the Moderator any takers/suggestions for panelists?, i agree with the kind of energy demonstrated on the list there are many stakeholders itching to do something and we need a middle ground or a win win situation for that matter. Best Regards On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:28 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: Hi Barrack,
What we need is a 6 year old who is going to class 1 next
year to perform an eloquent poem on what he/she expects when they arrive in class next year with their new electronic learning device (ELD)in hand.
It is unfortunate that even you have decided to take the side road, we have had months to take a position on this issue but as usual we have preferred +1s instead of actually doing something tangible.
What do we expect the President to do when he asks for help and the only people who come to his aid are Microsoft and elk. If you have not noticed the iPad disappeared on day 2 of his term in the same way that Obama's blackberry vanished, the President is and never was on this forum so to get his ear we must go where his attention is, the Cabinet Secretary (CS) has also vanished from this digital domain and gone to the analogue world where government lives and where only documents in hard copy are considered.
I like the way Dr. Ndemo scuttled discussions by insisting that we include the ministry and kie on John Matogo's initiative to host a
discussion, John also made the error of asking for financial support of this forum, which has proven itself to be a tweet shop.
Regards The show is not over until the plus sized person sings. (had to make it politically correct)
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenyag
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
________________________________ From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; "isoc@orion.my.co.ke" <isoc@orion.my.co.ke> Sent: Tuesday, 4 June 2013, 15:09
Subject: Re: [kictanet] President Kenyatta secures Microsoft support for computers
Walu,
I think its time we focused on other issues, seems this project is a foregone conclusion. We will take stock in 2017.
Best Regards
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Whao!
When I grow up, I want to work for M$oft :-)
Sounds like they are concluding the deal to be on 1million laptops next year - as we are busy tweeting on what Software is relevant for pupils in Standard one. Read on @ http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Uhuru-secures-Microsoft-support-for-computers/-...
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The MC is not the moderator. So, your participation in the discussions is expected :) On Jun 5, 2013 10:51 AM, "robert yawe" <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi Barrack,
Confirmed, I offer my candidature as the MC even though I suspect you made the offer to reduce my contribution but it is a sacrifice I am willing to take for the future of our children.
On a very light note, I hope Walu will not be appearing in court and also that his employer will not have an issue with him "lecturing" at another university
Regards
PS. Liko, can we use ticketsasa for the registrations?
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ------------------------------ *From:* Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> *To:* robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; " isoc@orion.my.co.ke" <isoc@orion.my.co.ke> *Sent:* Wednesday, 5 June 2013, 9:37 *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] President Kenyatta secures Microsoft support for computers
Agreed Bobby,
Are you suggesting an occupy parliament sort of move *Hides*, Matogo's Strathmore offer sounds better maybe you can be the Master of Ceremony and Walu the Moderator any takers/suggestions for panelists?, i agree with the kind of energy demonstrated on the list there are many stakeholders itching to do something and we need a middle ground or a win win situation for that matter.
Best Regards
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:28 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
Hi Barrack,
What we need is a 6 year old who is going to class 1 next year to perform an eloquent poem on what he/she expects when they arrive in class next year with their new electronic learning device (ELD)in hand.
It is unfortunate that even you have decided to take the side road, we have had months to take a position on this issue but as usual we have preferred +1s instead of actually doing something tangible.
What do we expect the President to do when he asks for help and the only people who come to his aid are Microsoft and elk. If you have not noticed the iPad disappeared on day 2 of his term in the same way that Obama's blackberry vanished, the President is and never was on this forum so to get his ear we must go where his attention is, the Cabinet Secretary (CS) has also vanished from this digital domain and gone to the analogue world where government lives and where only documents in hard copy are considered.
I like the way Dr. Ndemo scuttled discussions by insisting that we include the ministry and kie on John Matogo's initiative to host a discussion, John also made the error of asking for financial support of this forum, which has proven itself to be a tweet shop.
Regards
The show is not over until the plus sized person sings. (had to make it politically correct)
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenyag
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ------------------------------ *From:* Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> *To:* robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; " isoc@orion.my.co.ke" <isoc@orion.my.co.ke> *Sent:* Tuesday, 4 June 2013, 15:09
*Subject:* Re: [kictanet] President Kenyatta secures Microsoft support for computers
Walu,
I think its time we focused on other issues, seems this project is a foregone conclusion. We will take stock in 2017.
Best Regards
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Whao!
When I grow up, I want to work for M$oft :-)
Sounds like they are concluding the deal to be on 1million laptops next year - as we are busy tweeting on what Software is relevant for pupils in Standard one. Read on @ http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Uhuru-secures-Microsoft-support-for-computers/-...
walu.
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Bobby Yes You can use www.ticketsasa.com for registration ... Thanks On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 10:54 AM, S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya@gmail.com>wrote:
The MC is not the moderator.
So, your participation in the discussions is expected :) On Jun 5, 2013 10:51 AM, "robert yawe" <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi Barrack,
Confirmed, I offer my candidature as the MC even though I suspect you made the offer to reduce my contribution but it is a sacrifice I am willing to take for the future of our children.
On a very light note, I hope Walu will not be appearing in court and also that his employer will not have an issue with him "lecturing" at another university
Regards
PS. Liko, can we use ticketsasa for the registrations?
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ------------------------------ *From:* Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> *To:* robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; " isoc@orion.my.co.ke" <isoc@orion.my.co.ke> *Sent:* Wednesday, 5 June 2013, 9:37 *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] President Kenyatta secures Microsoft support for computers
Agreed Bobby,
Are you suggesting an occupy parliament sort of move *Hides*, Matogo's Strathmore offer sounds better maybe you can be the Master of Ceremony and Walu the Moderator any takers/suggestions for panelists?, i agree with the kind of energy demonstrated on the list there are many stakeholders itching to do something and we need a middle ground or a win win situation for that matter.
Best Regards
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:28 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
Hi Barrack,
What we need is a 6 year old who is going to class 1 next year to perform an eloquent poem on what he/she expects when they arrive in class next year with their new electronic learning device (ELD)in hand.
It is unfortunate that even you have decided to take the side road, we have had months to take a position on this issue but as usual we have preferred +1s instead of actually doing something tangible.
What do we expect the President to do when he asks for help and the only people who come to his aid are Microsoft and elk. If you have not noticed the iPad disappeared on day 2 of his term in the same way that Obama's blackberry vanished, the President is and never was on this forum so to get his ear we must go where his attention is, the Cabinet Secretary (CS) has also vanished from this digital domain and gone to the analogue world where government lives and where only documents in hard copy are considered.
I like the way Dr. Ndemo scuttled discussions by insisting that we include the ministry and kie on John Matogo's initiative to host a discussion, John also made the error of asking for financial support of this forum, which has proven itself to be a tweet shop.
Regards
The show is not over until the plus sized person sings. (had to make it politically correct)
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenyag
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ------------------------------ *From:* Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> *To:* robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; " isoc@orion.my.co.ke" <isoc@orion.my.co.ke> *Sent:* Tuesday, 4 June 2013, 15:09
*Subject:* Re: [kictanet] President Kenyatta secures Microsoft support for computers
Walu,
I think its time we focused on other issues, seems this project is a foregone conclusion. We will take stock in 2017.
Best Regards
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Whao!
When I grow up, I want to work for M$oft :-)
Sounds like they are concluding the deal to be on 1million laptops next year - as we are busy tweeting on what Software is relevant for pupils in Standard one. Read on @ http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Uhuru-secures-Microsoft-support-for-computers/-...
walu.
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Good, Thanks Liko, How do we go about setting it up? Best Regards On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Agosta Liko <agostal@gmail.com> wrote:
Bobby
Yes
You can use www.ticketsasa.com for registration ...
Thanks
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 10:54 AM, S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya@gmail.com>wrote:
The MC is not the moderator.
So, your participation in the discussions is expected :) On Jun 5, 2013 10:51 AM, "robert yawe" <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi Barrack,
Confirmed, I offer my candidature as the MC even though I suspect you made the offer to reduce my contribution but it is a sacrifice I am willing to take for the future of our children.
On a very light note, I hope Walu will not be appearing in court and also that his employer will not have an issue with him "lecturing" at another university
Regards
PS. Liko, can we use ticketsasa for the registrations?
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ------------------------------ *From:* Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> *To:* robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; " isoc@orion.my.co.ke" <isoc@orion.my.co.ke> *Sent:* Wednesday, 5 June 2013, 9:37 *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] President Kenyatta secures Microsoft support for computers
Agreed Bobby,
Are you suggesting an occupy parliament sort of move *Hides*, Matogo's Strathmore offer sounds better maybe you can be the Master of Ceremony and Walu the Moderator any takers/suggestions for panelists?, i agree with the kind of energy demonstrated on the list there are many stakeholders itching to do something and we need a middle ground or a win win situation for that matter.
Best Regards
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:28 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
Hi Barrack,
What we need is a 6 year old who is going to class 1 next year to perform an eloquent poem on what he/she expects when they arrive in class next year with their new electronic learning device (ELD)in hand.
It is unfortunate that even you have decided to take the side road, we have had months to take a position on this issue but as usual we have preferred +1s instead of actually doing something tangible.
What do we expect the President to do when he asks for help and the only people who come to his aid are Microsoft and elk. If you have not noticed the iPad disappeared on day 2 of his term in the same way that Obama's blackberry vanished, the President is and never was on this forum so to get his ear we must go where his attention is, the Cabinet Secretary (CS) has also vanished from this digital domain and gone to the analogue world where government lives and where only documents in hard copy are considered.
I like the way Dr. Ndemo scuttled discussions by insisting that we include the ministry and kie on John Matogo's initiative to host a discussion, John also made the error of asking for financial support of this forum, which has proven itself to be a tweet shop.
Regards
The show is not over until the plus sized person sings. (had to make it politically correct)
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenyag
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ------------------------------ *From:* Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> *To:* robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; " isoc@orion.my.co.ke" <isoc@orion.my.co.ke> *Sent:* Tuesday, 4 June 2013, 15:09
*Subject:* Re: [kictanet] President Kenyatta secures Microsoft support for computers
Walu,
I think its time we focused on other issues, seems this project is a foregone conclusion. We will take stock in 2017.
Best Regards
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Whao!
When I grow up, I want to work for M$oft :-)
Sounds like they are concluding the deal to be on 1million laptops next year - as we are busy tweeting on what Software is relevant for pupils in Standard one. Read on @ http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Uhuru-secures-Microsoft-support-for-computers/-...
walu.
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All, I think people need to come up with their suggestions on how they will assist this laptop programme achieve success. I think it will be a pioneering on e in the world that many a nation shall stop by to study. Samsung is setting up a plant to assemble laptops in the country, Microsoft has landed...It is irrelevant to ask what they stand to benefit, you don't make machines, and you don't have a world leading operating system. It is only true that when a kangaroo court to try the fox is called, only those who own hens have locus standi..... Let guys propose what they can bring to the table not substitute on fox for the other...for instance, participate in the county programs to educate teachers. JG On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>wrote:
Agreed Bobby,
Are you suggesting an occupy parliament sort of move *Hides*, Matogo's Strathmore offer sounds better maybe you can be the Master of Ceremony and Walu the Moderator any takers/suggestions for panelists?, i agree with the kind of energy demonstrated on the list there are many stakeholders itching to do something and we need a middle ground or a win win situation for that matter.
Best Regards
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:28 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
Hi Barrack,
What we need is a 6 year old who is going to class 1 next year to perform an eloquent poem on what he/she expects when they arrive in class next year with their new electronic learning device (ELD)in hand.
It is unfortunate that even you have decided to take the side road, we have had months to take a position on this issue but as usual we have preferred +1s instead of actually doing something tangible.
What do we expect the President to do when he asks for help and the only people who come to his aid are Microsoft and elk. If you have not noticed the iPad disappeared on day 2 of his term in the same way that Obama's blackberry vanished, the President is and never was on this forum so to get his ear we must go where his attention is, the Cabinet Secretary (CS) has also vanished from this digital domain and gone to the analogue world where government lives and where only documents in hard copy are considered.
I like the way Dr. Ndemo scuttled discussions by insisting that we include the ministry and kie on John Matogo's initiative to host a discussion, John also made the error of asking for financial support of this forum, which has proven itself to be a tweet shop.
Regards
The show is not over until the plus sized person sings. (had to make it politically correct)
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenyag
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ------------------------------ *From:* Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> *To:* robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; " isoc@orion.my.co.ke" <isoc@orion.my.co.ke> *Sent:* Tuesday, 4 June 2013, 15:09
*Subject:* Re: [kictanet] President Kenyatta secures Microsoft support for computers
Walu,
I think its time we focused on other issues, seems this project is a foregone conclusion. We will take stock in 2017.
Best Regards
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Whao!
When I grow up, I want to work for M$oft :-)
Sounds like they are concluding the deal to be on 1million laptops next year - as we are busy tweeting on what Software is relevant for pupils in Standard one. Read on @ http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Uhuru-secures-Microsoft-support-for-computers/-...
walu.
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James, The elders have said we are speaking too much and we need to act, we have therefore decided to gather at Strathmore University and put all our ideas in one pot, the outcome will be a position paper that will support policy, the first step is to confirm those who will attend, the second step will be to make up our minds on the role we want to play to make the project a success as diverse stakeholders. Best Regards On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 10:22 AM, James Mbugua <jgmbugua@gmail.com> wrote:
All,
I think people need to come up with their suggestions on how they will assist this laptop programme achieve success. I think it will be a pioneering on e in the world that many a nation shall stop by to study.
Samsung is setting up a plant to assemble laptops in the country, Microsoft has landed...It is irrelevant to ask what they stand to benefit, you don't make machines, and you don't have a world leading operating system. It is only true that when a kangaroo court to try the fox is called, only those who own hens have locus standi.....
Let guys propose what they can bring to the table not substitute on fox for the other...for instance, participate in the county programs to educate teachers.
JG
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>wrote:
Agreed Bobby,
Are you suggesting an occupy parliament sort of move *Hides*, Matogo's Strathmore offer sounds better maybe you can be the Master of Ceremony and Walu the Moderator any takers/suggestions for panelists?, i agree with the kind of energy demonstrated on the list there are many stakeholders itching to do something and we need a middle ground or a win win situation for that matter.
Best Regards
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:28 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
Hi Barrack,
What we need is a 6 year old who is going to class 1 next year to perform an eloquent poem on what he/she expects when they arrive in class next year with their new electronic learning device (ELD)in hand.
It is unfortunate that even you have decided to take the side road, we have had months to take a position on this issue but as usual we have preferred +1s instead of actually doing something tangible.
What do we expect the President to do when he asks for help and the only people who come to his aid are Microsoft and elk. If you have not noticed the iPad disappeared on day 2 of his term in the same way that Obama's blackberry vanished, the President is and never was on this forum so to get his ear we must go where his attention is, the Cabinet Secretary (CS) has also vanished from this digital domain and gone to the analogue world where government lives and where only documents in hard copy are considered.
I like the way Dr. Ndemo scuttled discussions by insisting that we include the ministry and kie on John Matogo's initiative to host a discussion, John also made the error of asking for financial support of this forum, which has proven itself to be a tweet shop.
Regards
The show is not over until the plus sized person sings. (had to make it politically correct)
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenyag
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ------------------------------ *From:* Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> *To:* robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; " isoc@orion.my.co.ke" <isoc@orion.my.co.ke> *Sent:* Tuesday, 4 June 2013, 15:09
*Subject:* Re: [kictanet] President Kenyatta secures Microsoft support for computers
Walu,
I think its time we focused on other issues, seems this project is a foregone conclusion. We will take stock in 2017.
Best Regards
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Whao!
When I grow up, I want to work for M$oft :-)
Sounds like they are concluding the deal to be on 1million laptops next year - as we are busy tweeting on what Software is relevant for pupils in Standard one. Read on @ http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Uhuru-secures-Microsoft-support-for-computers/-...
walu.
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Listers, Strathmore University has graciously offered to host the Stakeholder Forum on 18 June from 9 am at their auditorium. Robert Yawe has volunteered to be the Master of Ceremony John Walubengo can be the our Moderator for the day We can invite : Dr. Bitange Ndemo Prof Godia Dr. Matiang'i Edith Adera KePSA More suggestions are welcome The meeting is open to all stakeholders from Civil society , Academia, Tech community, Private Sector. Any more suggestions? On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>wrote:
James,
The elders have said we are speaking too much and we need to act, we have therefore decided to gather at Strathmore University and put all our ideas in one pot, the outcome will be a position paper that will support policy, the first step is to confirm those who will attend, the second step will be to make up our minds on the role we want to play to make the project a success as diverse stakeholders.
Best Regards
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 10:22 AM, James Mbugua <jgmbugua@gmail.com> wrote:
All,
I think people need to come up with their suggestions on how they will assist this laptop programme achieve success. I think it will be a pioneering on e in the world that many a nation shall stop by to study.
Samsung is setting up a plant to assemble laptops in the country, Microsoft has landed...It is irrelevant to ask what they stand to benefit, you don't make machines, and you don't have a world leading operating system. It is only true that when a kangaroo court to try the fox is called, only those who own hens have locus standi.....
Let guys propose what they can bring to the table not substitute on fox for the other...for instance, participate in the county programs to educate teachers.
JG
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>wrote:
Agreed Bobby,
Are you suggesting an occupy parliament sort of move *Hides*, Matogo's Strathmore offer sounds better maybe you can be the Master of Ceremony and Walu the Moderator any takers/suggestions for panelists?, i agree with the kind of energy demonstrated on the list there are many stakeholders itching to do something and we need a middle ground or a win win situation for that matter.
Best Regards
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:28 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
Hi Barrack,
What we need is a 6 year old who is going to class 1 next year to perform an eloquent poem on what he/she expects when they arrive in class next year with their new electronic learning device (ELD)in hand.
It is unfortunate that even you have decided to take the side road, we have had months to take a position on this issue but as usual we have preferred +1s instead of actually doing something tangible.
What do we expect the President to do when he asks for help and the only people who come to his aid are Microsoft and elk. If you have not noticed the iPad disappeared on day 2 of his term in the same way that Obama's blackberry vanished, the President is and never was on this forum so to get his ear we must go where his attention is, the Cabinet Secretary (CS) has also vanished from this digital domain and gone to the analogue world where government lives and where only documents in hard copy are considered.
I like the way Dr. Ndemo scuttled discussions by insisting that we include the ministry and kie on John Matogo's initiative to host a discussion, John also made the error of asking for financial support of this forum, which has proven itself to be a tweet shop.
Regards
The show is not over until the plus sized person sings. (had to make it politically correct)
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenyag
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ------------------------------ *From:* Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> *To:* robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; "isoc@orion.my.co.ke" <isoc@orion.my.co.ke> *Sent:* Tuesday, 4 June 2013, 15:09
*Subject:* Re: [kictanet] President Kenyatta secures Microsoft support for computers
Walu,
I think its time we focused on other issues, seems this project is a foregone conclusion. We will take stock in 2017.
Best Regards
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Whao!
When I grow up, I want to work for M$oft :-)
Sounds like they are concluding the deal to be on 1million laptops next year - as we are busy tweeting on what Software is relevant for pupils in Standard one. Read on @ http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Uhuru-secures-Microsoft-support-for-computers/-...
walu.
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Barrack, I am getting confused. What are we going to discuss at Strathmore? You recall the listers had requested that we get someone from Education to respond to issues around the lap top to schools policy pronouncement. I am disappointed that only a few of us that are raising substantive issues that can help the Ministry with the policy implementation. We need to exhaustably discuss the issues on-line and in Strathmore meeting we make recommendations to the Ministry of Education and get to hear their stand there. We shall waste the opportunity if we go there grumbling. Ndemo.
James,
The elders have said we are speaking too much and we need to act, we have therefore decided to gather at Strathmore University and put all our ideas in one pot, the outcome will be a position paper that will support policy, the first step is to confirm those who will attend, the second step will be to make up our minds on the role we want to play to make the project a success as diverse stakeholders.
Best Regards
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 10:22 AM, James Mbugua <jgmbugua@gmail.com> wrote:
All,
I think people need to come up with their suggestions on how they will assist this laptop programme achieve success. I think it will be a pioneering on e in the world that many a nation shall stop by to study.
Samsung is setting up a plant to assemble laptops in the country, Microsoft has landed...It is irrelevant to ask what they stand to benefit, you don't make machines, and you don't have a world leading operating system. It is only true that when a kangaroo court to try the fox is called, only those who own hens have locus standi.....
Let guys propose what they can bring to the table not substitute on fox for the other...for instance, participate in the county programs to educate teachers.
JG
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>wrote:
Agreed Bobby,
Are you suggesting an occupy parliament sort of move *Hides*, Matogo's Strathmore offer sounds better maybe you can be the Master of Ceremony and Walu the Moderator any takers/suggestions for panelists?, i agree with the kind of energy demonstrated on the list there are many stakeholders %
Barrack, I am getting confused. What are we going to discuss at Strathmore? You recall the listers had requested that we get someone from Education to respond to issues around the lap top to schools policy pronouncement. I am disappointed that only a few of us that are raising substantive issues that can help the Ministry with the policy implementation.
We need to exhaustably discuss the issues on-line and in Strathmore meeting we make recommendations to the Ministry of Education and get to hear their stand there. We shall waste the opportunity if we go there grumbling.
Ndemo.
James,
The elders have said we are speaking too much and we need to act, we have therefore decided to gather at Strathmore University and put all our ideas in one pot, the outcome will be a position paper that will support
Daktari The discussion will continue on list as we plan for the face to face meeting in strathmore. Thank you On Wednesday, June 5, 2013, Bitange Ndemo <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote: policy,
the first step is to confirm those who will attend, the second step will be to make up our minds on the role we want to play to make the project a success as diverse stakeholders.
Best Regards
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 10:22 AM, James Mbugua <jgmbugua@gmail.com> wrote:
All,
I think people need to come up with their suggestions on how they will assist this laptop programme achieve success. I think it will be a pioneering on e in the world that many a nation shall stop by to study.
Samsung is setting up a plant to assemble laptops in the country, Microsoft has landed...It is irrelevant to ask what they stand to benefit, you don't make machines, and you don't have a world leading operating system. It is only true that when a kangaroo court to try the fox is called, only those who own hens have locus standi.....
Let guys propose what they can bring to the table not substitute on fox for the other...for instance, participate in the county programs to educate teachers.
JG
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>wrote:
Agreed Bobby,
Are you suggesting an occupy parliament sort of move *Hides*, Matogo's Strathmore offer sounds better maybe you can be the Master of Ceremony and Walu the Moderator any takers/suggestions for panelists?, i agree with the kind of energy demonstrated on the list there are many stakeholders %
-- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/
BarrackI think there is need to have a structured discussion on the list so that there will be concrete recommendations. My suggestion is that once you compile the issues that listers have raised on the matter, you categorise them into themes/areas of intervention, and then have listers debate around them and make suggestions moving forward. You could set aside some five days where each day can be dedicated to an issue, and the recommendations can form part of the f2f meeting at Strath. My peni mbili.RgdsGG Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 16:22:24 +0300 From: otieno.barrack@gmail.com Subject: Re: [kictanet] President Kenyatta secures Microsoft support for computers CC: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke; isoc@orion.my.co.ke To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com Daktari The discussion will continue on list as we plan for the face to face meeting in strathmore. Thank you On Wednesday, June 5, 2013, Bitange Ndemo <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Barrack, I am getting confused. What are we going to discuss at Strathmore? You recall the listers had requested that we get someone from Education to respond to issues around the lap top to schools policy pronouncement. I
am disappointed that only a few of us that are raising substantive issues that can help the Ministry with the policy implementation.
We need to exhaustably discuss the issues on-line and in Strathmore
meeting we make recommendations to the Ministry of Education and get to hear their stand there. We shall waste the opportunity if we go there grumbling.
Ndemo.
James,
The elders have said we are speaking too much and we need to act, we have therefore decided to gather at Strathmore University and put all our ideas in one pot, the outcome will be a position paper that will support policy,
the first step is to confirm those who will attend, the second step will be to make up our minds on the role we want to play to make the project a success as diverse stakeholders.
Best Regards
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 10:22 AM, James Mbugua <jgmbugua@gmail.com> wrote:
All,
I think people need to come up with their suggestions on how they will assist this laptop programme achieve success. I think it will be a pioneering on e in the world that many a nation shall stop by to study.
Samsung is setting up a plant to assemble laptops in the country, Microsoft has landed...It is irrelevant to ask what they stand to benefit, you don't make machines, and you don't have a world leading operating
system. It is only true that when a kangaroo court to try the fox is called, only those who own hens have locus standi.....
Let guys propose what they can bring to the table not substitute on fox
for the other...for instance, participate in the county programs to educate teachers.
JG
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Barrack Otieno
<otieno.barrack@gmail.com>wrote:
Agreed Bobby,
Are you suggesting an occupy parliament sort of move *Hides*, Matogo's
Strathmore offer sounds better maybe you can be the Master of Ceremony and Walu the Moderator any takers/suggestions for panelists?, i agree with the
kind of energy demonstrated on the list there are many stakeholders %
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Barrack I think there is need to have a structured discussion on the list so that
My peni mbili. Rgds GG
________________________________ Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 16:22:24 +0300 From: otieno.barrack@gmail.com Subject: Re: [kictanet] President Kenyatta secures Microsoft support for computers CC: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke; isoc@orion.my.co.ke To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com
Daktari
The discussion will continue on list as we plan for the face to face meeting in strathmore. Thank you
On Wednesday, June 5, 2013, Bitange Ndemo <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Barrack, I am getting confused. What are we going to discuss at Strathmore? You recall the listers had requested that we get someone from Education to respond to issues around the lap top to schools policy pronouncement. I am disappointed that only a few of us that are raising substantive issues that can help the Ministry with the policy implementation.
We need to exhaustably discuss the issues on-line and in Strathmore meeting we make recommendations to the Ministry of Education and get to hear their stand there. We shall waste the opportunity if we go there grumbling.
Ndemo.
James,
The elders have said we are speaking too much and we need to act, we have therefore decided to gather at Strathmore University and put all our ideas in one pot, the outcome will be a position paper that will support
the first step is to confirm those who will attend, the second step will be to make up our minds on the role we want to play to make the project a success as diverse stakeholders.
Best Regards
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 10:22 AM, James Mbugua <jgmbugua@gmail.com> wrote:
All,
I think people need to come up with their suggestions on how they will assist this laptop programme achieve success. I think it will be a pioneering on e in the world that many a nation shall stop by to study.
Samsung is setting up a plant to assemble laptops in the country, Microsoft has landed...It is irrelevant to ask what they stand to benefit, you don't make machines, and you don't have a world leading operating system. It is only true that when a kangaroo court to try the fox is called, only those who own hens have locus standi.....
Let guys propose what they can bring to the table not substitute on fox for the other...for instance, participate in the county programs to educate teachers.
JG
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>wrote:
Agreed Bobby,
Are you suggesting an occupy parliament sort of move *Hides*, Matogo's Strathmore offer sounds better maybe you can be the Master of Ceremony and Walu the Moderator any takers/suggestions for panelists?, i agree with the kind of energy demonstrated on the list there are many stakeholders %
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Thanks GG seems that is the way to go. On Wednesday, June 5, 2013, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com> wrote: there will be concrete recommendations. My suggestion is that once you compile the issues that listers have raised on the matter, you categorise them into themes/areas of intervention, and then have listers debate around them and make suggestions moving forward. You could set aside some five days where each day can be dedicated to an issue, and the recommendations can form part of the f2f meeting at Strath. policy, people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/
Good people of the Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet). I spelt out the name to bring out the philosophy of the network"Action". Unfortunately in the last few years we have not lived to the philosophy of the network and turned into an ordinary busy discussion list. The network gained its clout and reputation by actually taking on policy issues and inputing directly into them and presenting the network position paper/document to the relevant offices/officers followed by serious lobbying. This is how you can influence policy and make a contribution to the policy formulation of any government not just our GoK. If the network truly wants to make a contribution, and I don't mean criticizing everything that government does and what others are offering to do, the secretariat with the assistance of members needs to develop a position paper on the policy pronouncement based on the documentation provided for in the Jubilee Manifesto. The position paper should provide answers to the many questions being asked and provide recommendations of how this policy can be implemented. The draft can be circulated on this list for further input before it is presented to the relevant offices. A sub committee should then be formed and tasked with follow up and lobbying to make sure that the recommendations in the position paper are taken into account, or better still the position paper of turned into the "Government Policy" itself. As the madman of the list (aka Bobby Yaweh) said, Government works through documents, so to get their attention, create a document! Action 101. Harry Hare Director | African eDevelopment Resource Centre PO Box 49475 00100 | Nairobi, Kenya Tel +254 20 4041646 | Cel +254 725 650044 From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 09:37:06 +0300 To: Cio_Magazine Hare <harry@africanedevelopment.org> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>, "isoc@orion.my.co.ke" <isoc@orion.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] President Kenyatta secures Microsoft support for computers Agreed Bobby, Are you suggesting an occupy parliament sort of move *Hides*, Matogo's Strathmore offer sounds better maybe you can be the Master of Ceremony and Walu the Moderator any takers/suggestions for panelists?, i agree with the kind of energy demonstrated on the list there are many stakeholders itching to do something and we need a middle ground or a win win situation for that matter. Best Regards On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:28 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi Barrack,
What we need is a 6 year old who is going to class 1 next year to perform an eloquent poem on what he/she expects when they arrive in class next year with their new electronic learning device (ELD)in hand.
It is unfortunate that even you have decided to take the side road, we have had months to take a position on this issue but as usual we have preferred +1s instead of actually doing something tangible.
What do we expect the President to do when he asks for help and the only people who come to his aid are Microsoft and elk. If you have not noticed the iPad disappeared on day 2 of his term in the same way that Obama's blackberry vanished, the President is and never was on this forum so to get his ear we must go where his attention is, the Cabinet Secretary (CS) has also vanished from this digital domain and gone to the analogue world where government lives and where only documents in hard copy are considered.
I like the way Dr. Ndemo scuttled discussions by insisting that we include the ministry and kie on John Matogo's initiative to host a discussion, John also made the error of asking for financial support of this forum, which has proven itself to be a tweet shop.
Regards
The show is not over until the plus sized person sings. (had to make it politically correct)
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenyag
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; "isoc@orion.my.co.ke" <isoc@orion.my.co.ke>
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Walu,
I think its time we focused on other issues, seems this project is a foregone conclusion. We will take stock in 2017.
Best Regards
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Whao!
When I grow up, I want to work for M$oft :-)
Sounds like they are concluding the deal to be on 1million laptops next year - as we are busy tweeting on what Software is relevant for pupils in Standard one. Read on @ http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Uhuru-secures-Microsoft-support-for-computers/-... 1056/1871904/-/7i517tz/-/index.html
walu.
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Dear Robert. My offer was without any request for financial support. The tea was a by the way, we can do without it. I agree with contributions from colleagues, let the outcome of this discussion be a position paper that can be used to advise policy makers. I believe we now have everything covered. Who will attend? Regards. JM On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:28 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi Barrack,
What we need is a 6 year old who is going to class 1 next year to perform an eloquent poem on what he/she expects when they arrive in class next year with their new electronic learning device (ELD)in hand.
It is unfortunate that even you have decided to take the side road, we have had months to take a position on this issue but as usual we have preferred +1s instead of actually doing something tangible.
What do we expect the President to do when he asks for help and the only people who come to his aid are Microsoft and elk. If you have not noticed the iPad disappeared on day 2 of his term in the same way that Obama's blackberry vanished, the President is and never was on this forum so to get his ear we must go where his attention is, the Cabinet Secretary (CS) has also vanished from this digital domain and gone to the analogue world where government lives and where only documents in hard copy are considered.
I like the way Dr. Ndemo scuttled discussions by insisting that we include the ministry and kie on John Matogo's initiative to host a discussion, John also made the error of asking for financial support of this forum, which has proven itself to be a tweet shop.
Regards
The show is not over until the plus sized person sings. (had to make it politically correct)
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenyag
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ------------------------------ *From:* Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> *To:* robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; " isoc@orion.my.co.ke" <isoc@orion.my.co.ke> *Sent:* Tuesday, 4 June 2013, 15:09 *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] President Kenyatta secures Microsoft support for computers
Walu,
I think its time we focused on other issues, seems this project is a foregone conclusion. We will take stock in 2017.
Best Regards
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Whao!
When I grow up, I want to work for M$oft :-)
Sounds like they are concluding the deal to be on 1million laptops next year - as we are busy tweeting on what Software is relevant for pupils in Standard one. Read on @ http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Uhuru-secures-Microsoft-support-for-computers/-...
walu.
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John, I will try and collect all the issues discussed on the list, probably Bobby can present them on the forum after which we can submit it as a memorandum to the concerned ministries after the stakeholders forum. Can we set up a registration system as suggested by Bobby. Best Regards On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 10:14 AM, John Matogo <jmatogo@strathmore.edu> wrote:
Dear Robert. My offer was without any request for financial support. The tea was a by the way, we can do without it.
I agree with contributions from colleagues, let the outcome of this discussion be a position paper that can be used to advise policy makers.
I believe we now have everything covered. Who will attend?
Regards.
JM
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:28 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
Hi Barrack,
What we need is a 6 year old who is going to class 1 next year to perform an eloquent poem on what he/she expects when they arrive in class next year with their new electronic learning device (ELD)in hand.
It is unfortunate that even you have decided to take the side road, we have had months to take a position on this issue but as usual we have preferred +1s instead of actually doing something tangible.
What do we expect the President to do when he asks for help and the only people who come to his aid are Microsoft and elk. If you have not noticed the iPad disappeared on day 2 of his term in the same way that Obama's blackberry vanished, the President is and never was on this forum so to get his ear we must go where his attention is, the Cabinet Secretary (CS) has also vanished from this digital domain and gone to the analogue world where government lives and where only documents in hard copy are considered.
I like the way Dr. Ndemo scuttled discussions by insisting that we include the ministry and kie on John Matogo's initiative to host a discussion, John also made the error of asking for financial support of this forum, which has proven itself to be a tweet shop.
Regards
The show is not over until the plus sized person sings. (had to make it politically correct)
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenyag
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ------------------------------ *From:* Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> *To:* robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; " isoc@orion.my.co.ke" <isoc@orion.my.co.ke> *Sent:* Tuesday, 4 June 2013, 15:09 *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] President Kenyatta secures Microsoft support for computers
Walu,
I think its time we focused on other issues, seems this project is a foregone conclusion. We will take stock in 2017.
Best Regards
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Whao!
When I grow up, I want to work for M$oft :-)
Sounds like they are concluding the deal to be on 1million laptops next year - as we are busy tweeting on what Software is relevant for pupils in Standard one. Read on @ http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Uhuru-secures-Microsoft-support-for-computers/-...
walu.
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Walu please remove this email address from list as it seems to be sending spam... Peres Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> Sender: "kictanet" <kictanet-bounces+peres_were=yahoo.co.uk@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 04:59:22 To: Peres Were<peres_were@yahoo.co.uk> Reply-To: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> Cc: isoc@orion.my.co.ke<isoc@orion.my.co.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: [kictanet] President Kenyatta secures Microsoft support for computers _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/peres_were%40yahoo.co.... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
participants (18)
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Agosta Liko -
Barrack Otieno -
Bitange Ndemo -
dmakali＠yahoo.com -
Edith Adera -
Evans Ikua -
Grace Githaiga -
Harry Hare | African eDevelopment Resource Centre -
James Kariuki -
James Mbugua -
John Matogo -
Kivuva -
peres_were＠yahoo.co.uk -
robert yawe -
S.M. Muraya -
steve mutuvi -
Walubengo J -
waudo siganga