Most data wireless technologies ( except 3G ) to become obsolete when kenya gets undersea fiber?
Firstly, a definate congratulations to safarciom for the bold 3G step forward and the vision of the future. Well done! And to the visionaries in cable operator companies such as KDN, JTL, TKL, you have set the destiny for kenya. Your planning for the future is on track. Now onto the issue about all wireless technologies becoming obsolete with the arrival of the undersea fiber. I believe these technologies will become a hinderance to internet growth in plenty parts of the country. End users may need to be more informed about the ROI on these technologies as the date for the undersea fiber nears : I list my points below : 1) For household broadband adsl services, can the technologies deliver 8Mbit/2Mbit services? 2) For business adsl and broadband services, can the technologies deliver 10-100Mbit services? 3) Do the base stations have the capacities to sustain large gigabit connectivity? 4) Are all the base stations inter-connected via fiber? 5) Those base stations that have microwave inter-connections, are there any planned upgrades to gigabit and above? 6) To keep continuation of the wireless business, will the providers become bottlenecks to end users? 7) Will cheaper backbone rates become expensive due to local loop costs? I think the future of internet distribution will revert to fiber to dslams' and copper to end users in the early stages with wireless as redundancy. Does the regulator have measures in place to discourage service providers from becoming hinderances? To encourage takeup of capacity, discourage backward trends due to older technologies and accelerate internet infrastructure growth, what would be the short terms and longer term policies ? Your comments/corrections are welcome. Thank you. Aki.
The success or failure of the undersea fiber is going to largely depend on the takeup capacity by service providers. If the service providers themselves are the bottlenecks to end users, then the fiber capacity takeup is just not going to happen. Just as the regulator put in place controls to encourage moves to digital broadcasting, I'd recommend these : a) Short term policies that should already be in place ( for the next 12-24 months ): - No more licenses to be issued for any wireless local loops operations - No more licenses to be issued for wireless internet services ( incase of mobile operators, besides 3G or above ) - An immediate creation of a special license category for cable companies with a very minimum license fee - For existing wireless operators upgrade compliance schedules to meet the gigabit capacities requirements - Encourage cable companies to not only build national networks but also consider providing fttp, ftth technologies - A public awareness campaign about the limitations of wireless technologies - A large bill board to show the countdown of the number of days for the arrival of the fiber I have a strong feeling that should such measures not be put in place, kenyans are going to be stuck with a new terminology called Congestion at Service Providers. And we will be back to square one with silly internet packages as 265k/64k, 512k/128k etc. If the end user take up of bandwidth is so low due to local technology restrictions, one can only imagine the impact on the overall takeup of capacity. Rgds, Aki. On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 8:53 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
Firstly, a definate congratulations to safarciom for the bold 3G step forward and the vision of the future. Well done!
And to the visionaries in cable operator companies such as KDN, JTL, TKL, you have set the destiny for kenya. Your planning for the future is on track.
Now onto the issue about all wireless technologies becoming obsolete with the arrival of the undersea fiber. I believe these technologies will become a hinderance to internet growth in plenty parts of the country. End users may need to be more informed about the ROI on these technologies as the date for the undersea fiber nears :
I list my points below :
1) For household broadband adsl services, can the technologies deliver 8Mbit/2Mbit services? 2) For business adsl and broadband services, can the technologies deliver 10-100Mbit services? 3) Do the base stations have the capacities to sustain large gigabit connectivity? 4) Are all the base stations inter-connected via fiber? 5) Those base stations that have microwave inter-connections, are there any planned upgrades to gigabit and above? 6) To keep continuation of the wireless business, will the providers become bottlenecks to end users? 7) Will cheaper backbone rates become expensive due to local loop costs?
I think the future of internet distribution will revert to fiber to dslams' and copper to end users in the early stages with wireless as redundancy. Does the regulator have measures in place to discourage service providers from becoming hinderances? To encourage takeup of capacity, discourage backward trends due to older technologies and accelerate internet infrastructure growth, what would be the short terms and longer term policies ?
Your comments/corrections are welcome.
Thank you.
Aki.
Dear Aki, You are using ver communistic terminologies such as "control", "limit". The market will adjust all these. We have sufficient players to make us understand the products. Regards Ndemo.
The success or failure of the undersea fiber is going to largely depend on the takeup capacity by service providers. If the service providers themselves are the bottlenecks to end users, then the fiber capacity takeup is just not going to happen. Just as the regulator put in place controls to encourage moves to digital broadcasting, I'd recommend these :
a) Short term policies that should already be in place ( for the next 12-24 months ):
- No more licenses to be issued for any wireless local loops operations - No more licenses to be issued for wireless internet services ( incase of mobile operators, besides 3G or above ) - An immediate creation of a special license category for cable companies with a very minimum license fee - For existing wireless operators upgrade compliance schedules to meet the gigabit capacities requirements - Encourage cable companies to not only build national networks but also consider providing fttp, ftth technologies - A public awareness campaign about the limitations of wireless technologies
- A large bill board to show the countdown of the number of days for the arrival of the fiber
I have a strong feeling that should such measures not be put in place, kenyans are going to be stuck with a new terminology called Congestion at Service Providers. And we will be back to square one with silly internet packages as 265k/64k, 512k/128k etc. If the end user take up of bandwidth is so low due to local technology restrictions, one can only imagine the impact on the overall takeup of capacity.
Rgds,
Aki.
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 8:53 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
Firstly, a definate congratulations to safarciom for the bold 3G step forward and the vision of the future. Well done!
And to the visionaries in cable operator companies such as KDN, JTL, TKL, you have set the destiny for kenya. Your planning for the future is on track.
Now onto the issue about all wireless technologies becoming obsolete with the arrival of the undersea fiber. I believe these technologies will become a hinderance to internet growth in plenty parts of the country. End users may need to be more informed about the ROI on these technologies as the date for the undersea fiber nears :
I list my points below :
1) For household broadband adsl services, can the technologies deliver 8Mbit/2Mbit services? 2) For business adsl and broadband services, can the technologies deliver 10-100Mbit services? 3) Do the base stations have the capacities to sustain large gigabit connectivity? 4) Are all the base stations inter-connected via fiber? 5) Those base stations that have microwave inter-connections, are there any planned upgrades to gigabit and above? 6) To keep continuation of the wireless business, will the providers become bottlenecks to end users? 7) Will cheaper backbone rates become expensive due to local loop costs?
I think the future of internet distribution will revert to fiber to dslams' and copper to end users in the early stages with wireless as redundancy. Does the regulator have measures in place to discourage service providers from becoming hinderances? To encourage takeup of capacity, discourage backward trends due to older technologies and accelerate internet infrastructure growth, what would be the short terms and longer term policies ?
Your comments/corrections are welcome.
Thank you.
Aki.
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Dear Aki, Wireless solutions will never be obsolete. They are the intergral part of our last mile connectivity. They complement fibre optic. We may never have fibre to all homes and offices. Upgrade of base stations shall provide us with sufficient broadband in the coming months. We must grow our broadband reach. It has an inverse relationship with voice pricing. As you increase the number of broadband users, voice tarrifs tend to drop to the extent that you may even have free calls. You may have noted that this is beggining to look real. In most advanced countries broadband to homes is as high as 100mb. Once we are through with infrastructure, the pressure on price will intensify and most likely you will pay for 100 mb the price you currently pay for 512 KB. Most operators have fibre backhaul between most stations. They are also using WIMAX for backhaul purposes. You will NEVER see telecom prices raise for some time irrespective of inflation. The competitive framework is in such a way that pressure on pricing shall continue to favour the consumer. We are also keenly watching to ensure maximum competition. There is a possibility that the regulator may start looking at number portability to give the consumer more power. Please let me know if the response do not address all your questions. Regards Ndemo. ---------------------------------------------- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Jambo MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --------------------------------------------- "easy access to the world"
Dear Bwana Ndemo, Thank you very much for the clarification. However to be more specific and I'd like to introduce into this discussion the technology itself. Product vendors would be kind enough to clarify/correct as necessary. 1) Wimax when used as point to point as the case for backhauls can achieve a maxiumum a of 70Mbp/s, depending on distance. Between base stations, this may not be sufficient for demand of capacities. 2) CPE at client premises can achieve a maximum of 12Mbits at a distance of upto 2kms. 3) The available bandwidth on the base station is shared amongst users in a given radio sector. Therefore 2,4,6,8,10 and 12 Mbit options are available. Nothing more? We have quite a number of vendors. How will they address these issues for end users. Assuming that 10Mbit will be the least entry level service, given the price drops of international capacity? Rgds, Aki. On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 11:24 AM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Dear Aki, Wireless solutions will never be obsolete. They are the intergral part of our last mile connectivity. They complement fibre optic. We may never have fibre to all homes and offices. Upgrade of base stations shall provide us with sufficient broadband in the coming months.
We must grow our broadband reach. It has an inverse relationship with voice pricing. As you increase the number of broadband users, voice tarrifs tend to drop to the extent that you may even have free calls. You may have noted that this is beggining to look real.
In most advanced countries broadband to homes is as high as 100mb. Once we are through with infrastructure, the pressure on price will intensify and most likely you will pay for 100 mb the price you currently pay for 512 KB. Most operators have fibre backhaul between most stations. They are also using WIMAX for backhaul purposes.
You will NEVER see telecom prices raise for some time irrespective of inflation. The competitive framework is in such a way that pressure on pricing shall continue to favour the consumer. We are also keenly watching to ensure maximum competition. There is a possibility that the regulator may start looking at number portability to give the consumer more power.
Please let me know if the response do not address all your questions.
Regards
Ndemo.
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