Re: Burning and Closure of Standard Media Group
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1. Re: Burning and Closure of Standard Media Group ( Wainaina Mungai ) 2. (no subject) 3. Re: Burning and Closure of Standard Media Group (Sammy Buruchara) 4. Re: Re: Burning and Closure of Standard Media Group (Eric Osiakwan) 5. Re: Re: Burning and Closure of Standard Media Group ( Wainaina Mungai ) 6. Re: Re: Burning and Closure of Standard Media Group ( Wainaina Mungai ) 7. Re: Re: Burning and Closure of Standard Media Group ( Wainaina Mungai )
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Message: 1 Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 12:01:21 +0300 From: " Wainaina Mungai " <wainaina@madeinkenya.org> Subject: [Kictanet] Re: Burning and Closure of Standard Media Group To: "KIPlist" <kiplist-cl@lyris.idrc.ca> Cc: kictanet@kictanet.or.ke Message-ID: <20060302090121.31391.qmail@domain50.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Dear all,
As we all so readily rotest against the unwarranted destruction of
It is common knowledge that media houses lack objectivity in their reporting, that is usually tailor made to suit their prefered subjects ends and their own (obvious financial)gains i.e. the client media phenomenon,that cuts across the entire media fraternaty sparing only but a few media houses.Lets face it, while the media council may arbirtrate fairly complains amongst it's membership it may not do so fairly for two parties where one is a member and the other agrieved not being it's member.Considering the swift and devastating consequences media headlines may have on an agrieved party which may not be corrected by some nondescript apologetic note on some hideous page or at the end of the sports segment of the news bulletin ,such practices must be discouraged with the harshest and the strongest deterents possible.It takes a lifeworth effort to build a reputation which may cramble one second due to some incorrect headline.It's worth remebering a recent incident in the past where a young man's mother had a heart attack which may have been attributed to media reports that he was marrying an elderly woman, before even she could get the news from her son himself, sadly she passed away.Now not even an apologetic note could bring her come back to life not even a Media council ruling can or more so a libel award by a court ruling could.This shows that such issues should not be taken lightly and someone hides under the guise of freedom of press.In the past we had riots outside one media house offices in town by a university following a press report that the students felt was erronous and untrue,another life was also sadly lost in the process.Let the perpetrators of these barbaric acts be punished and we must remember not everyone is patient and civil enough to follow "due process".Certainly this recent incident may not be the last. ---- Original Message ----- From: <kictanet-request@kictanet.or.ke> To: "mutua" <emutua@ngocouncil.org> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 1:34 PM Subject: kictanet Digest, Vol 13, Issue 3 property etc, let us not be sucked into supporting misconduct within the media. We must not lose sight of the fact that the media has become is a law unto itself; while the rest of society is governed by rules of civilised conduct. The media is a powerful tool that has even been abused to the extent of fueling conflict in many countries. As we all know, it has also been used positively.
However, there are currently several cases in court and other incidents
that indicate the media has failed to regulate itself. The Media Council of Kenya may just have proved to Kenyans over the years that the concept of self-regulation may be the way to go in Kenya.
As much as I empathise with the Standard Group, I would urge them to give
Kenyans (wether in government or not) a fair hearing and endevour to report ONLY the truth. Sensational reporting in an attempt to gain market share will lead to situations as we have now as the parties seek resolution (whether the methods are wrong or right). In cases where mistakes a made, they should not hid apologies in a small corner of page 92 but put into where the original story (Page 1, if the story was a headline story) and so on. Anything short of that should be handled by very stringent laws of conduct.
Politically incorrect but I hope it will keep us focused. There is an
urgent need to get a working system for regulation of the media conduct.
--- Wainaina Mungai http://www.madeinkenya.org
SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT is development that meets the needs of the present
without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their own needs.
-------Original Message------- From: Waudo Siganga <csk@nbi.ispkenya.com> Subject: Burning and Closure of Standard Media Group Sent: 02 Mar '06 19:29
Dear Colleagues,
The reports received this morning regarding the crackdown and closure
the Standard Media Group are shocking and the CSK will issue a statement on the same later in the day.
Kind Regards Waudo Siganga Chairman The Computer Society of Kenya
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Message: 3 Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 12:12:28 +0300 From: Sammy Buruchara <Sammy@nbnet.co.ke> Subject: [Kictanet] Re: Burning and Closure of Standard Media Group To: "KIPlist" <kiplist-cl@lyris.idrc.ca> Cc: kictanet@kictanet.or.ke Message-ID: <58F93AA7-DE1D-400D-A70C-16CD67CBCAE0@nbnet.co.ke> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
Two wrongs do not make a right.
Sammy Buruchara On Mar 2, 2006, at 12:01 PM, Wainaina Mungai wrote:
Dear all,
As we all so readily rotest against the unwarranted destruction of property etc, let us not be sucked into supporting misconduct within the media. We must not lose sight of the fact that the media has become is a law unto itself; while the rest of society is governed by rules of civilised conduct. The media is a powerful tool that has even been abused to the extent of fueling conflict in many countries. As we all know, it has also been used positively.
However, there are currently several cases in court and other incidents that indicate the media has failed to regulate itself. The Media Council of Kenya may just have proved to Kenyans over the years that the concept of self-regulation may be the way to go in Kenya.
As much as I empathise with the Standard Group, I would urge them to give Kenyans (wether in government or not) a fair hearing and endevour to report ONLY the truth. Sensational reporting in an attempt to gain market share will lead to situations as we have now as the parties seek resolution (whether the methods are wrong or right). In cases where mistakes a made, they should not hid apologies in a small corner of page 92 but put into where the original story (Page 1, if the story was a headline story) and so on. Anything short of that should be handled by very stringent laws of conduct.
Politically incorrect but I hope it will keep us focused. There is an urgent need to get a working system for regulation of the media conduct.
--- Wainaina Mungai http://www.madeinkenya.org
SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT is development that meets the needs of the present without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their own needs.
-------Original Message------- From: Waudo Siganga <csk@nbi.ispkenya.com> Subject: Burning and Closure of Standard Media Group Sent: 02 Mar '06 19:29
Dear Colleagues,
The reports received this morning regarding the crackdown and closure of the Standard Media Group are shocking and the CSK will issue a statement on the same later in the day.
Kind Regards Waudo Siganga Chairman The Computer Society of Kenya
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Message: 4 Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 11:59:36 +0200 From: "Eric Osiakwan" <eric@afrispa.org> Subject: Re: [Kictanet] Re: Burning and Closure of Standard Media Group To: Kenya ICT Policy - kictanet <kictanet@kictanet.or.ke> Message-ID: <200603021159.AA347340840@afrispa.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Wainaina,
Please permit me to differ with you.
The civilised world has resolved to ensure that there are due processes subject to the rule of law by which we deal with such reculcitrant elements of our deomocratic experiment so to ignore such consitutional and instituional mechanisms is worse a precident as the acts of the reculcitrant element being subjected.
Two wrongs dont make a right.
---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Wainaina Mungai" <wainaina@madeinkenya.org> Reply-To: Kenya ICT Policy - kictanet <kictanet@kictanet.or.ke> Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 12:01:21 +0300
Dear all,
As we all so readily rotest against the unwarranted destruction of
However, there are currently several cases in court and other incidents
As much as I empathise with the Standard Group, I would urge them to give
Kenyans (wether in government or not) a fair hearing and endevour to report ONLY the truth. Sensational reporting in an attempt to gain market share will lead to situations as we have now as the parties seek resolution (whether the methods are wrong or right). In cases where mistakes a made,
Politically incorrect but I hope it will keep us focused. There is an
urgent need to get a working system for regulation of the media conduct.
--- Wainaina Mungai http://www.madeinkenya.org
SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT is development that meets the needs of the
-------Original Message------- From: Waudo Siganga <csk@nbi.ispkenya.com> Subject: Burning and Closure of Standard Media Group Sent: 02 Mar '06 19:29
Dear Colleagues,
The reports received this morning regarding the crackdown and closure
of
the Standard Media Group are shocking and the CSK will issue a statement on the same later in the day.
Kind Regards Waudo Siganga Chairman The Computer Society of Kenya
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Message: 5 Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 13:29:21 +0300 From: " Wainaina Mungai " <wainaina@madeinkenya.org> Subject: Re: [Kictanet] Re: Burning and Closure of Standard Media Group To: "Kenya ICT Policy - kictanet" <kictanet@kictanet.or.ke> Message-ID: <20060302102922.29476.qmail@domain50.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Agreed, we acknowledge "two wrongs" however, in our quick condemnation, we risk losing sight of the first wrong. That was actually the point I was making.
I have personal experiences of how media runs to "press freedom" to get
of property etc, let us not be sucked into supporting misconduct within the media. We must not lose sight of the fact that the media has become is a law unto itself; while the rest of society is governed by rules of civilised conduct. The media is a powerful tool that has even been abused to the extent of fueling conflict in many countries. As we all know, it has also been used positively. that indicate the media has failed to regulate itself. The Media Council of Kenya may just have proved to Kenyans over the years that the concept of self-regulation may be the way to go in Kenya. they should not hid apologies in a small corner of page 92 but put into where the original story (Page 1, if the story was a headline story) and so on. Anything short of that should be handled by very stringent laws of conduct. present without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their own needs. the "first wrong" to disappear. The perpetrators of the "second wrong" must be punished as prescribed by the law so that we do not have a repeat of either wrongs.
;-)
Wainaina
-------Original Message------- From: Eric Osiakwan <eric@afrispa.org> Subject: Re: [Kictanet] Re: Burning and Closure of Standard Media Group Sent: 02 Mar '06 12:59
Wainaina,
Please permit me to differ with you.
The civilised world has resolved to ensure that there are due processes
Two wrongs dont make a right.
---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Wainaina Mungai" <wainaina@madeinkenya.org> Reply-To: Kenya ICT Policy - kictanet <kictanet@kictanet.or.ke> Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 12:01:21 +0300
Dear all,
As we all so readily rotest against the unwarranted destruction of
However, there are currently several cases in court and other
incidents that indicate the media has failed to regulate itself. The Media Council of Kenya may just have proved to Kenyans over the years that the concept of self-regulation may be the way to go in Kenya.
As much as I empathise with the Standard Group, I would urge them to
give Kenyans (wether in government or not) a fair hearing and endevour to report ONLY the truth. Sensational reporting in an attempt to gain market share will lead to situations as we have now as the parties seek resolution (whether the methods are wrong or right). In cases where mistakes a made,
Politically incorrect but I hope it will keep us focused. There is an
urgent need to get a working system for regulation of the media conduct.
--- Wainaina Mungai http://www.madeinkenya.org
SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT is development that meets the needs of the
-------Original Message------- From: Waudo Siganga <csk@nbi.ispkenya.com> Subject: Burning and Closure of Standard Media Group Sent: 02 Mar '06 19:29
Dear Colleagues,
The reports received this morning regarding the crackdown and
closure of
the Standard Media Group are shocking and the CSK will issue a statement on the same later in the day.
Kind Regards Waudo Siganga Chairman The Computer Society of Kenya
--- Submitted by: csk@nbi.ispkenya.com 2006-03-02 00:40:37 EST5 (Please reply to original submitter for private communication) --- You are currently subscribed to kiplist-cl as: [wainaina.mungai@oneworld.net] To unsubscribe, forward this message to leave-kiplist-cl-117112D@lyris.idrc.ca
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Message: 6 Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 13:30:35 +0300 From: " Wainaina Mungai " <wainaina@madeinkenya.org> Subject: Re: [Kictanet] Re: Burning and Closure of Standard Media Group To: "Kenya ICT Policy - kictanet" <kictanet@kictanet.or.ke> Message-ID: <20060302103035.25424.qmail@domain50.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Agreed, we acknowledge "two wrongs" however, in our quick condemnation, we risk losing sight of the first wrong. The point am making is that official statements released in condemning the "second wrong" should not be made in a way that sanitises the "first wrong".
I have personal experiences of how media runs to "press freedom" to get
subject to the rule of law by which we deal with such reculcitrant elements of our deomocratic experiment so to ignore such consitutional and instituional mechanisms is worse a precident as the acts of the reculcitrant element being subjected. property etc, let us not be sucked into supporting misconduct within the media. We must not lose sight of the fact that the media has become is a law unto itself; while the rest of society is governed by rules of civilised conduct. The media is a powerful tool that has even been abused to the extent of fueling conflict in many countries. As we all know, it has also been used positively. they should not hid apologies in a small corner of page 92 but put into where the original story (Page 1, if the story was a headline story) and so on. Anything short of that should be handled by very stringent laws of conduct. present without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their own needs. the "first wrong" to disappear. The perpetrators of the "second wrong" must be punished as prescribed by the law so that we do not have a repeat of either wrongs.
;-)
Wainaina
-------Original Message------- From: Eric Osiakwan <eric@afrispa.org> Subject: Re: [Kictanet] Re: Burning and Closure of Standard Media Group Sent: 02 Mar '06 12:59
Wainaina,
Please permit me to differ with you.
The civilised world has resolved to ensure that there are due processes
subject to the rule of law by which we deal with such reculcitrant elements of our deomocratic experiment so to ignore such consitutional and instituional mechanisms is worse a precident as the acts of the reculcitrant element being subj
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Message: 7 Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 13:31:52 +0300 From: " Wainaina Mungai " <wainaina@madeinkenya.org> Subject: Re: [Kictanet] Re: Burning and Closure of Standard Media Group To: "Kenya ICT Policy - kictanet" <kictanet@kictanet.or.ke> Cc: KIPlist <kiplist-cl@lyris.idrc.ca> Message-ID: <20060302103152.9240.qmail@domain50.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Agreed, we acknowledge "two wrongs" however, in our quick condemnation, we
risk losing sight of the first wrong. The point am making is that official statements released in condemning the "second wrong" should not be made in a way that sanitises the "first wrong".
I have personal experiences of how media runs to "press freedom" to get
the "first wrong" to disappear. The perpetrators of the "second wrong" must be punished as prescribed by the law so that we do not have a repeat of either wrongs.
;-)
Wainaina
-------Original Message------- From: Eric Osiakwan <eric@afrispa.org> Subject: Re: [Kictanet] Re: Burning and Closure of Standard Media Group Sent: 02 Mar '06 12:59
Wainaina,
Please permit me to differ with you.
The civilised world has resolved to ensure that there are due processes
Two wrongs dont make a right.
---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Wainaina Mungai" <wainaina@madeinkenya.org> Reply-To: Kenya ICT Policy - kictanet <kictanet@kictanet.or.ke> Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 12:01:21 +0300
Dear all,
As we all so readily rotest against the unwarranted destruction of
However, there are currently several cases in court and other
incidents that indicate the media has failed to regulate itself. The Media Council of Kenya may just have proved to Kenyans over the years that the concept of self-regulation may be the way to go in Kenya.
As much as I empathise with the Standard Group, I would urge them to
give Kenyans (wether in government or not) a fair hearing and endevour to report ONLY the truth. Sensational reporting in an attempt to gain market share will lead to situations as we have now as the parties seek resolution (whether the methods are wrong or right). In cases where mistakes a made,
Politically incorrect but I hope it will keep us focused. There is an
urgent need to get a working system for regulation of the media conduct.
--- Wainaina Mungai http://www.madeinkenya.org
SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT is development that meets the needs of the
subject to the rule of law by which we deal with such reculcitrant elements of our deomocratic experiment so to ignore such consitutional and instituional mechanisms is worse a precident as the acts of the reculcitrant element being subjected. property etc, let us not be sucked into supporting misconduct within the media. We must not lose sight of the fact that the media has become is a law unto itself; while the rest of society is governed by rules of civilised conduct. The media is a powerful tool that has even been abused to the extent of fueling conflict in many countries. As we all know, it has also been used positively. they should not hid apologies in a small corner of page 92 but put into where the original story (Page 1, if the story was a headline story) and so on. Anything short of that should be handled by very stringent laws of conduct. present without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their own needs.
-------Original Message------- From: Waudo Siganga <csk@nbi.ispkenya.com> Subject: Burning and Closure of Standard Media Group Sent: 02 Mar '06 19:29
Dear Colleagues,
The reports received this morning regarding the crackdown and
closure of
the Standard Media Group are shocking and the CSK will issue a statement on the same later in the day.
Kind Regards Waudo Siganga Chairman The Computer Society of Kenya
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