Laying fiber alongside Roads / Buildings under construction should be compulsory - in Africa!
Dear Listers, This is a subject that really troubles me. Today, Africa is the destination for mega infrastructure projects especially in Roads and Building Construction. "Real Estate Boom" in now a common term in our continent and even bigger in Kenya. But I still don't understand why we would spend a fortune to put up magnificent roads and buildings (of course sewer lines. water pipes and basic drainage along the roads are usually sorted out) and forget to lay fiber cables - the cheapest of the ingredients! In my opinion, this is a mistake that can be stopped! What needs to be done to change this? Regards Bob.
Hi Bob, Visionary leadership is what we need. Best Regards On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Bob Omondi <omondibob@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Listers,
This is a subject that really troubles me.
Today, Africa is the destination for mega infrastructure projects especially in Roads and Building Construction. "Real Estate Boom" in now a common term in our continent and even bigger in Kenya.
But I still don't understand why we would spend a fortune to put up magnificent roads and buildings (of course sewer lines. water pipes and basic drainage along the roads are usually sorted out) and forget to lay fiber cables - the cheapest of the ingredients! In my opinion, this is a mistake that can be stopped!
What needs to be done to change this?
Regards Bob.
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Hello Bob, We in Sierra Leone have recently began to experience this as our country embarks massive fibre optics to help upgrade the ICT infrastructure and bring effective communication to the people. There is a little price being paid at the moment. The roads are being dug to help keep the fibre cables underground often causing inconvenience. The pleasant part is knowing that there is a high potential for infrastructural boom in the area of ICT and knowing fully well that access to ICT facilities will no longer be restricted and tenuous. Thanks, Andrew On Friday, December 6, 2013, Bob Omondi wrote:
Dear Listers,
This is a subject that really troubles me.
Today, Africa is the destination for mega infrastructure projects especially in Roads and Building Construction. "Real Estate Boom" in now a common term in our continent and even bigger in Kenya.
But I still don't understand why we would spend a fortune to put up magnificent roads and buildings (of course sewer lines. water pipes and basic drainage along the roads are usually sorted out) and forget to lay fiber cables - the cheapest of the ingredients! In my opinion, this is a mistake that can be stopped!
What needs to be done to change this?
Regards Bob.
-- Andrew Benson Greene Founder and CEO B-Gifted Foundation of Sierra Leone www.bgiftedfoundation.org ***************************************************** https://www.vizify.com/andrew-benson-greene-jr/links
We did NOFBI in Kenya (with the Government spending a couple of Billions of KES), but I am not sure if it is still working. On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Andrew Benson Greene < b.giftedfoundation@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Bob, We in Sierra Leone have recently began to experience this as our country embarks massive fibre optics to help upgrade the ICT infrastructure and bring effective communication to the people. There is a little price being paid at the moment. The roads are being dug to help keep the fibre cables underground often causing inconvenience. The pleasant part is knowing that there is a high potential for infrastructural boom in the area of ICT and knowing fully well that access to ICT facilities will no longer be restricted and tenuous. Thanks, Andrew
On Friday, December 6, 2013, Bob Omondi wrote:
Dear Listers,
This is a subject that really troubles me.
Today, Africa is the destination for mega infrastructure projects especially in Roads and Building Construction. "Real Estate Boom" in now a common term in our continent and even bigger in Kenya.
But I still don't understand why we would spend a fortune to put up magnificent roads and buildings (of course sewer lines. water pipes and basic drainage along the roads are usually sorted out) and forget to lay fiber cables - the cheapest of the ingredients! In my opinion, this is a mistake that can be stopped!
What needs to be done to change this?
Regards Bob.
-- Andrew Benson Greene Founder and CEO B-Gifted Foundation of Sierra Leone www.bgiftedfoundation.org ***************************************************** https://www.vizify.com/andrew-benson-greene-jr/links
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Which could have been avoided if the road contractors had included this element! Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 6, 2013, at 3:28 PM, Philip Adar <philip.adar@gmail.com> wrote:
We did NOFBI in Kenya (with the Government spending a couple of Billions of KES), but I am not sure if it is still working.
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Andrew Benson Greene <b.giftedfoundation@gmail.com> wrote: Hello Bob, We in Sierra Leone have recently began to experience this as our country embarks massive fibre optics to help upgrade the ICT infrastructure and bring effective communication to the people. There is a little price being paid at the moment. The roads are being dug to help keep the fibre cables underground often causing inconvenience. The pleasant part is knowing that there is a high potential for infrastructural boom in the area of ICT and knowing fully well that access to ICT facilities will no longer be restricted and tenuous. Thanks, Andrew
On Friday, December 6, 2013, Bob Omondi wrote: Dear Listers,
This is a subject that really troubles me.
Today, Africa is the destination for mega infrastructure projects especially in Roads and Building Construction. "Real Estate Boom" in now a common term in our continent and even bigger in Kenya.
But I still don't understand why we would spend a fortune to put up magnificent roads and buildings (of course sewer lines. water pipes and basic drainage along the roads are usually sorted out) and forget to lay fiber cables - the cheapest of the ingredients! In my opinion, this is a mistake that can be stopped!
What needs to be done to change this?
Regards Bob.
-- Andrew Benson Greene Founder and CEO B-Gifted Foundation of Sierra Leone www.bgiftedfoundation.org ***************************************************** https://www.vizify.com/andrew-benson-greene-jr/links
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I think NOFBI is just ready to be switched, we just need a little inspiration and thoughtfullness going forwad now that economies depend on the Internet. Best Regards On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Bobs <omondibob@gmail.com> wrote:
Which could have been avoided if the road contractors had included this element!
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 6, 2013, at 3:28 PM, Philip Adar <philip.adar@gmail.com> wrote:
We did NOFBI in Kenya (with the Government spending a couple of Billions of KES), but I am not sure if it is still working.
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Andrew Benson Greene < b.giftedfoundation@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Bob, We in Sierra Leone have recently began to experience this as our country embarks massive fibre optics to help upgrade the ICT infrastructure and bring effective communication to the people. There is a little price being paid at the moment. The roads are being dug to help keep the fibre cables underground often causing inconvenience. The pleasant part is knowing that there is a high potential for infrastructural boom in the area of ICT and knowing fully well that access to ICT facilities will no longer be restricted and tenuous. Thanks, Andrew
On Friday, December 6, 2013, Bob Omondi wrote:
Dear Listers,
This is a subject that really troubles me.
Today, Africa is the destination for mega infrastructure projects especially in Roads and Building Construction. "Real Estate Boom" in now a common term in our continent and even bigger in Kenya.
But I still don't understand why we would spend a fortune to put up magnificent roads and buildings (of course sewer lines. water pipes and basic drainage along the roads are usually sorted out) and forget to lay fiber cables - the cheapest of the ingredients! In my opinion, this is a mistake that can be stopped!
What needs to be done to change this?
Regards Bob.
-- Andrew Benson Greene Founder and CEO B-Gifted Foundation of Sierra Leone www.bgiftedfoundation.org ***************************************************** https://www.vizify.com/andrew-benson-greene-jr/links
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Ducting usually accounts for over 60% of the cost of laying fibre-optic cables. Just like any other communication system, the problem is not with the links between towns which NOFBI addresses. The problem is with the last mile, i.e links to homes and businesses. As result many jurisdictions are conducting studies on the most efficient way to deliver broadband to homes and businesses. The EU study of July 2012 is available herefor those who want to dig deeper into the matter. On Friday, 6 December 2013, 15:52, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote: I think NOFBI is just ready to be switched, we just need a little inspiration and thoughtfullness going forwad now that economies depend on the Internet. Best Regards On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Bobs <omondibob@gmail.com> wrote: Which could have been avoided if the road contractors had included this element!
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 6, 2013, at 3:28 PM, Philip Adar <philip.adar@gmail.com> wrote:
We did NOFBI in Kenya (with the Government spending a couple of Billions of KES), but I am not sure if it is still working.
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Andrew Benson Greene <b.giftedfoundation@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Bob,
We in Sierra Leone have recently began to experience this as our country embarks massive fibre optics to help upgrade the ICT infrastructure and bring effective communication to the people. There is a little price being paid at the moment. The roads are being dug to help keep the fibre cables underground often causing inconvenience. The pleasant part is knowing that there is a high potential for infrastructural boom in the area of ICT and knowing fully well that access to ICT facilities will no longer be restricted and tenuous. Thanks, Andrew
On Friday, December 6, 2013, Bob Omondi wrote:
Dear Listers,
This is a subject that really troubles me.
Today, Africa is the destination for mega infrastructure projects especially in Roads and Building Construction. "Real Estate Boom" in now a common term in our continent and even bigger in Kenya.
But I still don't understand why we would spend a fortune to put up magnificent roads and buildings (of course sewer lines. water pipes and basic drainage along the roads are usually sorted out) and forget to lay fiber cables - the cheapest of the ingredients! In my opinion, this is a mistake that can be stopped!
What needs to be done to change this?
Regards Bob.
-- Andrew Benson Greene Founder and CEO B-Gifted Foundation of Sierra Leone www.bgiftedfoundation.org ***************************************************** https://www.vizify.com/andrew-benson-greene-jr/links
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Nice Question Bob, and it has been asked here by hardcore Kictaneters countless times with no solution offered. It’s alleged that in Japan, to add a new pair on the available duct, a motorcyclist runs through the duct with the cable tied to his tail. Bob, I had a discussion with a guy from Switzerland on how to influence policy, and his response was through direct lobbying the policy makers. That might be the answer to your great question. We develop an ICT infrastructure policy paper and feed-it through the bureaucracy until its made law. Remember, we are a developing country and you and I are part of the solution. Barrack, NOFBI will be a success when it’s leased to a strategic and forward thinking investor like Google. Just saying. On 06/12/2013, James Kulubi <jkulubi@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Ducting usually accounts for over 60% of the cost of laying fibre-optic cables. Just like any other communication system, the problem is not with the links between towns which NOFBI addresses. The problem is with the last mile, i.e links to homes and businesses. As result many jurisdictions are conducting studies on the most efficient way to deliver broadband to homes and businesses. The EU study of July 2012 is available herefor those who want to dig deeper into the matter.
On Friday, 6 December 2013, 15:52, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
I think NOFBI is just ready to be switched, we just need a little inspiration and thoughtfullness going forwad now that economies depend on the Internet.
Best Regards
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Bobs <omondibob@gmail.com> wrote:
Which could have been avoided if the road contractors had included this element!
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 6, 2013, at 3:28 PM, Philip Adar <philip.adar@gmail.com> wrote:
We did NOFBI in Kenya (with the Government spending a couple of Billions of KES), but I am not sure if it is still working.
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Andrew Benson Greene <b.giftedfoundation@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Bob,
We in Sierra Leone have recently began to experience this as our country embarks massive fibre optics to help upgrade the ICT infrastructure and bring effective communication to the people. There is a little price being paid at the moment. The roads are being dug to help keep the fibre cables underground often causing inconvenience. The pleasant part is knowing that there is a high potential for infrastructural boom in the area of ICT and knowing fully well that access to ICT facilities will no longer be restricted and tenuous. Thanks, Andrew
On Friday, December 6, 2013, Bob Omondi wrote:
Dear Listers,
This is a subject that really troubles me.
Today, Africa is the destination for mega infrastructure projects especially in Roads and Building Construction. "Real Estate Boom" in now a common term in our continent and even bigger in Kenya.
But I still don't understand why we would spend a fortune to put up magnificent roads and buildings (of course sewer lines. water pipes and basic drainage along the roads are usually sorted out) and forget to lay fiber cables - the cheapest of the ingredients! In my opinion, this is a mistake that can be stopped!
What needs to be done to change this?
Regards Bob.
-- Andrew Benson Greene Founder and CEO B-Gifted Foundation of Sierra Leone www.bgiftedfoundation.org ***************************************************** https://www.vizify.com/andrew-benson-greene-jr/links
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Kivuva Couldn't agree more. These are some of the quicks wins that the ICT Ministry can actually achieve. A sort of Rapid Results Initiative (RRIs) that the Kibaki regime coined:- Any new road construction must build in ducts for fibre optics so that any player can just pull in their fibre and pay a service charge to the counties. This can be agreed by all parties concerned. Counties, Central Government and the Service Providers. All new buildings MUST have this infrastructure built it in so that tenants/owners just need to make a choice of different service providers for broadband. This is a no brainer considering that despite our high Internet penetration levels of over 40%, broadband penetration is below 2%. Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad
On Dec 6, 2013, at 10:38 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
Nice Question Bob, and it has been asked here by hardcore Kictaneters countless times with no solution offered.
It’s alleged that in Japan, to add a new pair on the available duct, a motorcyclist runs through the duct with the cable tied to his tail.
Bob, I had a discussion with a guy from Switzerland on how to influence policy, and his response was through direct lobbying the policy makers. That might be the answer to your great question. We develop an ICT infrastructure policy paper and feed-it through the bureaucracy until its made law.
Remember, we are a developing country and you and I are part of the solution.
Barrack, NOFBI will be a success when it’s leased to a strategic and forward thinking investor like Google. Just saying.
On 06/12/2013, James Kulubi <jkulubi@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: Ducting usually accounts for over 60% of the cost of laying fibre-optic cables. Just like any other communication system, the problem is not with the links between towns which NOFBI addresses. The problem is with the last mile, i.e links to homes and businesses. As result many jurisdictions are conducting studies on the most efficient way to deliver broadband to homes and businesses. The EU study of July 2012 is available herefor those who want to dig deeper into the matter.
On Friday, 6 December 2013, 15:52, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
I think NOFBI is just ready to be switched, we just need a little inspiration and thoughtfullness going forwad now that economies depend on the Internet.
Best Regards
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Bobs <omondibob@gmail.com> wrote:
Which could have been avoided if the road contractors had included this element!
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 6, 2013, at 3:28 PM, Philip Adar <philip.adar@gmail.com> wrote:
We did NOFBI in Kenya (with the Government spending a couple of Billions of KES), but I am not sure if it is still working.
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Andrew Benson Greene <b.giftedfoundation@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Bob,
We in Sierra Leone have recently began to experience this as our country embarks massive fibre optics to help upgrade the ICT infrastructure and bring effective communication to the people. There is a little price being paid at the moment. The roads are being dug to help keep the fibre cables underground often causing inconvenience. The pleasant part is knowing that there is a high potential for infrastructural boom in the area of ICT and knowing fully well that access to ICT facilities will no longer be restricted and tenuous. Thanks, Andrew
On Friday, December 6, 2013, Bob Omondi wrote:
Dear Listers,
This is a subject that really troubles me.
Today, Africa is the destination for mega infrastructure projects especially in Roads and Building Construction. "Real Estate Boom" in now a common term in our continent and even bigger in Kenya.
But I still don't understand why we would spend a fortune to put up magnificent roads and buildings (of course sewer lines. water pipes and basic drainage along the roads are usually sorted out) and forget to lay fiber cables - the cheapest of the ingredients! In my opinion, this is a mistake that can be stopped!
What needs to be done to change this?
Regards Bob.
-- Andrew Benson Greene Founder and CEO B-Gifted Foundation of Sierra Leone www.bgiftedfoundation.org ***************************************************** https://www.vizify.com/andrew-benson-greene-jr/links
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@ Kivuva, Well, lobbying may work, but it is a long process! The opportunity may not wait for you that long. Mind this: you are investing ahead of demand! So do this: try demanding the professionals at the responsible Ministries (those who formulate the projects) to stop thinking in Silos and think forward and long-term using integrated project planning! And make the Treasury guys to understand this! It is a pain we suffered and somehow solved the problem in Tanzania with our NICTBB. We know it works. Regards __________________________________ *Eng. Dr. Zaipuna O. Yonah, PhD* *Consulting Engineer in ICTs* *P. O. Box 32736* *Dar es Salaam* *Tanzania* *Tel: +255-784-786429* *Fax: +255--732-920133* *Email: **engzaipuna@ieee.org* <engzaipuna@ieee.org> =============================== *It is About Engineering People's Lives! **& * *Advancing Technology for Humanity!* *===============================* On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 10:38 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
Nice Question Bob, and it has been asked here by hardcore Kictaneters countless times with no solution offered.
It’s alleged that in Japan, to add a new pair on the available duct, a motorcyclist runs through the duct with the cable tied to his tail.
Bob, I had a discussion with a guy from Switzerland on how to influence policy, and his response was through direct lobbying the policy makers. That might be the answer to your great question. We develop an ICT infrastructure policy paper and feed-it through the bureaucracy until its made law.
Remember, we are a developing country and you and I are part of the solution.
Barrack, NOFBI will be a success when it’s leased to a strategic and forward thinking investor like Google. Just saying.
Ducting usually accounts for over 60% of the cost of laying fibre-optic cables. Just like any other communication system, the problem is not with the links between towns which NOFBI addresses. The problem is with the last mile, i.e links to homes and businesses. As result many jurisdictions are conducting studies on the most efficient way to deliver broadband to homes and businesses. The EU study of July 2012 is available herefor those who want to dig deeper into the matter.
On Friday, 6 December 2013, 15:52, Barrack Otieno < otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
I think NOFBI is just ready to be switched, we just need a little inspiration and thoughtfullness going forwad now that economies depend on the Internet.
Best Regards
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Bobs <omondibob@gmail.com> wrote:
Which could have been avoided if the road contractors had included this element!
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 6, 2013, at 3:28 PM, Philip Adar <philip.adar@gmail.com> wrote:
We did NOFBI in Kenya (with the Government spending a couple of Billions
of
KES), but I am not sure if it is still working.
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Andrew Benson Greene <b.giftedfoundation@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Bob,
We in Sierra Leone have recently began to experience this as our
country
embarks massive fibre optics to help upgrade the ICT infrastructure and bring effective communication to the people. There is a little price being paid at the moment. The roads are being dug to help keep the fibre cables underground often causing inconvenience. The pleasant part is knowing that there is a high potential for infrastructural boom in the area of ICT and knowing fully well that access to ICT facilities will no longer be restricted and tenuous. Thanks, Andrew
On Friday, December 6, 2013, Bob Omondi wrote:
Dear Listers,
This is a subject that really troubles me.
Today, Africa is the destination for mega infrastructure projects especially in Roads and Building Construction. "Real Estate Boom" in now a common term in our continent and even bigger in Kenya.
But I still don't understand why we would spend a fortune to put up magnificent roads and buildings (of course sewer lines. water pipes
and
basic drainage along the roads are usually sorted out) and forget to lay fiber cables - the cheapest of the ingredients! In my opinion,
On 06/12/2013, James Kulubi <jkulubi@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: this
is a mistake that can be stopped!
What needs to be done to change this?
Regards Bob.
-- Andrew Benson Greene Founder and CEO B-Gifted Foundation of Sierra Leone www.bgiftedfoundation.org ***************************************************** https://www.vizify.com/andrew-benson-greene-jr/links
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@Kivuva, Here is an example when the elected miss it! http://spectrum.ieee.org/telecom/internet/the-rise-and-fall-of-australias-44-billion-broadband-project/?utm_source=techalert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=120513/ Regards __________________________________ *Eng. Dr. Zaipuna O. Yonah, PhD* *Consulting Engineer in ICTs* *It is About Engineering People's Lives! **& * *Advancing Technology for Humanity!* *===============================* On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 4:47 AM, Zaipuna Yonah <zaipuna.yonah@gmail.com>wrote:
@ Kivuva,
Well, lobbying may work, but it is a long process! The opportunity may not wait for you that long. Mind this: you are investing ahead of demand! So do this: try demanding the professionals at the responsible Ministries (those who formulate the projects) to stop thinking in Silos and think forward and long-term using integrated project planning! And make the Treasury guys to understand this! It is a pain we suffered and somehow solved the problem in Tanzania with our NICTBB. We know it works.
Regards
__________________________________ *Eng. Dr. Zaipuna O. Yonah, PhD* *Consulting Engineer in ICTs* *P. O. Box 32736* *Dar es Salaam* *Tanzania* *Tel: +255-784-786429 <%2B255-784-786429>* *Fax: +255--732-920133 <%2B255--732-920133>* *Email: **engzaipuna@ieee.org* <engzaipuna@ieee.org> =============================== *It is About Engineering People's Lives! **& * *Advancing Technology for Humanity!* *===============================*
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 10:38 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com>wrote:
Nice Question Bob, and it has been asked here by hardcore Kictaneters countless times with no solution offered.
It’s alleged that in Japan, to add a new pair on the available duct, a motorcyclist runs through the duct with the cable tied to his tail.
Bob, I had a discussion with a guy from Switzerland on how to influence policy, and his response was through direct lobbying the policy makers. That might be the answer to your great question. We develop an ICT infrastructure policy paper and feed-it through the bureaucracy until its made law.
Remember, we are a developing country and you and I are part of the solution.
Barrack, NOFBI will be a success when it’s leased to a strategic and forward thinking investor like Google. Just saying.
Ducting usually accounts for over 60% of the cost of laying fibre-optic cables. Just like any other communication system, the problem is not with the links between towns which NOFBI addresses. The problem is with the last mile, i.e links to homes and businesses. As result many jurisdictions are conducting studies on the most efficient way to deliver broadband to homes and businesses. The EU study of July 2012 is available herefor those who want to dig deeper into the matter.
On Friday, 6 December 2013, 15:52, Barrack Otieno < otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
I think NOFBI is just ready to be switched, we just need a little inspiration and thoughtfullness going forwad now that economies depend on the Internet.
Best Regards
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Bobs <omondibob@gmail.com> wrote:
Which could have been avoided if the road contractors had included this element!
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 6, 2013, at 3:28 PM, Philip Adar <philip.adar@gmail.com> wrote:
We did NOFBI in Kenya (with the Government spending a couple of
Billions of
KES), but I am not sure if it is still working.
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Andrew Benson Greene <b.giftedfoundation@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Bob,
We in Sierra Leone have recently began to experience this as our
country
embarks massive fibre optics to help upgrade the ICT infrastructure and bring effective communication to the people. There is a little price being paid at the moment. The roads are being dug to help keep the fibre cables underground often causing inconvenience. The pleasant part is knowing that there is a high potential for infrastructural boom in
area of ICT and knowing fully well that access to ICT facilities will no longer be restricted and tenuous. Thanks, Andrew
On Friday, December 6, 2013, Bob Omondi wrote:
Dear Listers, > >This is a subject that really troubles me. > >Today, Africa is the destination for mega infrastructure projects > especially in Roads and Building Construction. "Real Estate Boom" in > now a common term in our continent and even bigger in Kenya. > >But I still don't understand why we would spend a fortune to put up > magnificent roads and buildings (of course sewer lines. water pipes and > basic drainage along the roads are usually sorted out) and forget to > lay fiber cables - the cheapest of the ingredients! In my opinion,
> is a mistake that can be stopped! > >What needs to be done to change this? > >Regards >Bob. > > >
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+1 Yonah! Integrated project management! I mean government must stop working is silos. we have just commissioned a mega railway project, that will run all the to Kigali, this is a perfect opportunity for relevant cables and to drive penetration inland! Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 7, 2013, at 4:57 AM, Zaipuna Yonah <zaipuna.yonah@gmail.com> wrote:
@Kivuva,
Here is an example when the elected miss it! http://spectrum.ieee.org/telecom/internet/the-rise-and-fall-of-australias-44-billion-broadband-project/?utm_source=techalert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=120513/
Regards __________________________________ Eng. Dr. Zaipuna O. Yonah, PhD Consulting Engineer in ICTs It is About Engineering People's Lives! & Advancing Technology for Humanity! ===============================
On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 4:47 AM, Zaipuna Yonah <zaipuna.yonah@gmail.com> wrote: @ Kivuva,
Well, lobbying may work, but it is a long process! The opportunity may not wait for you that long. Mind this: you are investing ahead of demand! So do this: try demanding the professionals at the responsible Ministries (those who formulate the projects) to stop thinking in Silos and think forward and long-term using integrated project planning! And make the Treasury guys to understand this! It is a pain we suffered and somehow solved the problem in Tanzania with our NICTBB. We know it works.
Regards
__________________________________ Eng. Dr. Zaipuna O. Yonah, PhD Consulting Engineer in ICTs P. O. Box 32736 Dar es Salaam Tanzania Tel: +255-784-786429 Fax: +255--732-920133 Email: engzaipuna@ieee.org =============================== It is About Engineering People's Lives! & Advancing Technology for Humanity! ===============================
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 10:38 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote: Nice Question Bob, and it has been asked here by hardcore Kictaneters countless times with no solution offered.
It’s alleged that in Japan, to add a new pair on the available duct, a motorcyclist runs through the duct with the cable tied to his tail.
Bob, I had a discussion with a guy from Switzerland on how to influence policy, and his response was through direct lobbying the policy makers. That might be the answer to your great question. We develop an ICT infrastructure policy paper and feed-it through the bureaucracy until its made law.
Remember, we are a developing country and you and I are part of the solution.
Barrack, NOFBI will be a success when it’s leased to a strategic and forward thinking investor like Google. Just saying.
On 06/12/2013, James Kulubi <jkulubi@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Ducting usually accounts for over 60% of the cost of laying fibre-optic cables. Just like any other communication system, the problem is not with the links between towns which NOFBI addresses. The problem is with the last mile, i.e links to homes and businesses. As result many jurisdictions are conducting studies on the most efficient way to deliver broadband to homes and businesses. The EU study of July 2012 is available herefor those who want to dig deeper into the matter.
On Friday, 6 December 2013, 15:52, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
I think NOFBI is just ready to be switched, we just need a little inspiration and thoughtfullness going forwad now that economies depend on the Internet.
Best Regards
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Bobs <omondibob@gmail.com> wrote:
Which could have been avoided if the road contractors had included this element!
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 6, 2013, at 3:28 PM, Philip Adar <philip.adar@gmail.com> wrote:
We did NOFBI in Kenya (with the Government spending a couple of Billions of KES), but I am not sure if it is still working.
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Andrew Benson Greene <b.giftedfoundation@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Bob, >We in Sierra Leone have recently began to experience this as our country > embarks massive fibre optics to help upgrade the ICT infrastructure and > bring effective communication to the people. There is a little price > being paid at the moment. The roads are being dug to help keep the fibre > cables underground often causing inconvenience. The pleasant part is > knowing that there is a high potential for infrastructural boom in the > area of ICT and knowing fully well that access to ICT facilities will no > longer be restricted and tenuous. >Thanks, >Andrew > > >On Friday, December 6, 2013, Bob Omondi wrote: > >Dear Listers, >> >>This is a subject that really troubles me. >> >>Today, Africa is the destination for mega infrastructure projects >> especially in Roads and Building Construction. "Real Estate Boom" in >> now a common term in our continent and even bigger in Kenya. >> >>But I still don't understand why we would spend a fortune to put up >> magnificent roads and buildings (of course sewer lines. water pipes and >> basic drainage along the roads are usually sorted out) and forget to >> lay fiber cables - the cheapest of the ingredients! In my opinion, this >> is a mistake that can be stopped! >> >>What needs to be done to change this? >> >>Regards >>Bob. >> >> >> > >-- >Andrew Benson Greene >Founder and CEO >B-Gifted Foundation of Sierra Leone >www.bgiftedfoundation.org >***************************************************** >https://www.vizify.com/andrew-benson-greene-jr/links > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >kictanet mailing list >kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke >https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > >Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/philip.adar%40gmail.co... > >The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and > development. > >KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and > bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect > privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >
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All, What did it take for buildings in Nairobi to be painted a while back?, a simple order from the town clerk, we simple need visionary leadership, so much lobbying has been done until folks have grown hoarse, that why other countries pick up out innovations and blue prints and become case studies to us. To make it worse the wonderful projects are masterminded by sons of this land. Good points to reflect on now that Kenya is @ 50 Best Regards On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 6:50 AM, Bobs <omondibob@gmail.com> wrote:
+1 Yonah!
Integrated project management! I mean government must stop working is silos.
we have just commissioned a mega railway project, that will run all the to Kigali, this is a perfect opportunity for relevant cables and to drive penetration inland!
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 7, 2013, at 4:57 AM, Zaipuna Yonah <zaipuna.yonah@gmail.com> wrote:
@Kivuva,
Here is an example when the elected miss it!
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On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 4:47 AM, Zaipuna Yonah <zaipuna.yonah@gmail.com>wrote:
@ Kivuva,
Well, lobbying may work, but it is a long process! The opportunity may not wait for you that long. Mind this: you are investing ahead of demand! So do this: try demanding the professionals at the responsible Ministries (those who formulate the projects) to stop thinking in Silos and think forward and long-term using integrated project planning! And make the Treasury guys to understand this! It is a pain we suffered and somehow solved the problem in Tanzania with our NICTBB. We know it works.
Regards
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On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 10:38 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com>wrote:
Nice Question Bob, and it has been asked here by hardcore Kictaneters countless times with no solution offered.
It’s alleged that in Japan, to add a new pair on the available duct, a motorcyclist runs through the duct with the cable tied to his tail.
Bob, I had a discussion with a guy from Switzerland on how to influence policy, and his response was through direct lobbying the policy makers. That might be the answer to your great question. We develop an ICT infrastructure policy paper and feed-it through the bureaucracy until its made law.
Remember, we are a developing country and you and I are part of the solution.
Barrack, NOFBI will be a success when it’s leased to a strategic and forward thinking investor like Google. Just saying.
Ducting usually accounts for over 60% of the cost of laying fibre-optic cables. Just like any other communication system, the problem is not with the links between towns which NOFBI addresses. The problem is with
mile, i.e links to homes and businesses. As result many jurisdictions are conducting studies on the most efficient way to deliver broadband to homes and businesses. The EU study of July 2012 is available herefor those who want to dig deeper into the matter.
On Friday, 6 December 2013, 15:52, Barrack Otieno < otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
I think NOFBI is just ready to be switched, we just need a little inspiration and thoughtfullness going forwad now that economies depend on the Internet.
Best Regards
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Bobs <omondibob@gmail.com> wrote:
Which could have been avoided if the road contractors had included this element!
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 6, 2013, at 3:28 PM, Philip Adar <philip.adar@gmail.com> wrote:
We did NOFBI in Kenya (with the Government spending a couple of
Billions of
KES), but I am not sure if it is still working.
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Andrew Benson Greene <b.giftedfoundation@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Bob, >We in Sierra Leone have recently began to experience this as our
country
> embarks massive fibre optics to help upgrade the ICT infrastructure and > bring effective communication to the people. There is a little price > being paid at the moment. The roads are being dug to help keep the fibre > cables underground often causing inconvenience. The pleasant part is > knowing that there is a high potential for infrastructural boom in
> area of ICT and knowing fully well that access to ICT facilities will no > longer be restricted and tenuous. >Thanks, >Andrew > > >On Friday, December 6, 2013, Bob Omondi wrote: > >Dear Listers, >> >>This is a subject that really troubles me. >> >>Today, Africa is the destination for mega infrastructure projects >> especially in Roads and Building Construction. "Real Estate Boom" in >> now a common term in our continent and even bigger in Kenya. >> >>But I still don't understand why we would spend a fortune to put up >> magnificent roads and buildings (of course sewer lines. water
>> basic drainage along the roads are usually sorted out) and forget to >> lay fiber cables - the cheapest of the ingredients! In my opinion,
>> is a mistake that can be stopped! >> >>What needs to be done to change this? >> >>Regards >>Bob. >> >> >> > >-- >Andrew Benson Greene >Founder and CEO >B-Gifted Foundation of Sierra Leone >www.bgiftedfoundation.org >***************************************************** >https://www.vizify.com/andrew-benson-greene-jr/links > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >kictanet mailing list >kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke >https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > >Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/philip.adar%40gmail.co... > >The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder
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Barrack I am dismayed by you statement “why other countries pick up out innovations and blue prints and become case studies to us.” Unfortunately, the pick-up of innovations on a global scale is what has led to the development of the modern society. Each country/continent can boast for its own contributions to the modern society and we should all be proud of this state of affairs. For instance, according to the Guinness Book of Records, the oldest and still surviving university in the world is on the African continent. Any attempt to localize, horde or to un-necessarily restrict the flow of knowledge and ideas is counterproductive in the modern world. My professor (Prof. Leo Van Biesen) once told me “You are suffering from third world mentality-what does it matter if you know something and nobody is using it? After all, somebody is soon going to conceive the same idea/innovation – if somebody doesn't know it already.” With a light touch. James On Saturday, 7 December 2013, 11:28, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote: All, What did it take for buildings in Nairobi to be painted a while back?, a simple order from the town clerk, we simple need visionary leadership, so much lobbying has been done until folks have grown hoarse, that why other countries pick up out innovations and blue prints and become case studies to us. To make it worse the wonderful projects are masterminded by sons of this land. Good points to reflect on now that Kenya is @ 50 Best Regards On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 6:50 AM, Bobs <omondibob@gmail.com> wrote: +1 Yonah!
Integrated project management! I mean government must stop working is silos.
we have just commissioned a mega railway project, that will run all the to Kigali, this is a perfect opportunity for relevant cables and to drive penetration inland!
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 7, 2013, at 4:57 AM, Zaipuna Yonah <zaipuna.yonah@gmail.com> wrote:
@Kivuva,
Here is an example when the elected miss it! http://spectrum.ieee.org/telecom/internet/the-rise-and-fall-of-australias-44-billion-broadband-project/?utm_source=techalert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=120513/
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On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 4:47 AM, Zaipuna Yonah <zaipuna.yonah@gmail.com> wrote:
@ Kivuva,
Well, lobbying may work, but it is a long process! The opportunity may not wait for you that long. Mind this: you are investing ahead of demand! So do this: try demanding the professionals at the responsible Ministries (those who formulate the projects) to stop thinking in Silos and think forward and long-term using integrated project planning! And make the Treasury guys to understand this! It is a pain we suffered and somehow solved the problem in Tanzania with our NICTBB. We know it works.
Regards
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On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 10:38 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
Nice Question Bob, and it has been asked here by hardcore Kictaneters
countless times with no solution offered.
It’s alleged that in Japan, to add a new pair on the available duct, a motorcyclist runs through the duct with the cable tied to his tail.
Bob, I had a discussion with a guy from Switzerland on how to influence policy, and his response was through direct lobbying the policy makers. That might be the answer to your great question. We develop an ICT infrastructure policy paper and feed-it through the bureaucracy until its made law.
Remember, we are a developing country and you and I are part of the solution.
Barrack, NOFBI will be a success when it’s leased to a strategic and forward thinking investor like Google. Just saying.
On 06/12/2013, James Kulubi <jkulubi@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Ducting usually accounts for over 60% of the cost of laying fibre-optic cables. Just like any other communication system, the problem is not with the links between towns which NOFBI addresses. The problem is with the last mile, i.e links to homes and businesses. As result many jurisdictions are conducting studies on the most efficient way to deliver broadband to homes and businesses. The EU study of July 2012 is available herefor those who want to dig deeper into the matter.
On Friday, 6 December 2013, 15:52, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
I think NOFBI is just ready to be switched, we just need a little inspiration and thoughtfullness going forwad now that economies depend on the Internet.
Best Regards
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Bobs <omondibob@gmail.com> wrote:
Which could have been avoided if the road contractors had included this element!
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 6, 2013, at 3:28 PM, Philip Adar <philip.adar@gmail.com> wrote:
We did NOFBI in Kenya (with the Government spending a couple of Billions of KES), but I am not sure if it is still working. > > > >On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Andrew Benson Greene > <b.giftedfoundation@gmail.com> wrote: > >Hello Bob, >>We in Sierra Leone have recently began to experience this as our country >> embarks massive fibre optics to help upgrade the ICT infrastructure and >> bring effective communication to the people. There is a little price >> being paid at the moment. The roads are being dug to help keep the fibre >> cables underground often causing inconvenience. The pleasant part is >> knowing that there is a high potential for infrastructural boom in the >> area of ICT and knowing fully well that access to ICT facilities will no >> longer be restricted and tenuous. >>Thanks, >>Andrew >> >> >>On Friday, December 6, 2013, Bob Omondi wrote: >> >>Dear Listers, >>> >>>This is a subject that really troubles me. >>> >>>Today, Africa is the destination for mega infrastructure projects >>> especially in Roads and Building Construction. "Real Estate Boom" in >>> now a common term in our continent and even bigger in Kenya. >>> >>>But I still don't understand why we would spend a fortune to put up >>> magnificent roads and buildings (of course sewer lines. water pipes and >>> basic drainage along the roads are usually sorted out) and forget to >>> lay fiber cables - the cheapest of the ingredients! In my opinion, this >>> is a mistake that can be stopped! >>> >>>What needs to be done to change this? >>> >>>Regards >>>Bob. >>> >>> >>> >> >>-- >>Andrew Benson Greene >>Founder and CEO >>B-Gifted Foundation of Sierra Leone >>www.bgiftedfoundation.org >>***************************************************** >>https://www.vizify.com/andrew-benson-greene-jr/links >> >> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>kictanet mailing list >>kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke >>https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >>Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/philip.adar%40gmail.co... >> >>The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and >> development. >> >>KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and >> bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect >> privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> > > > >-- >Regards > >Philip Adar > _______________________________________________ >kictanet mailing list >kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke >https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > >Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/omondibob%40gmail.com > > >The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and > development. > >KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and > bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect > privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet
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Professor, My point exactly, our leaders ought to be dismayed by this state of affairs, in this day and age we should not be discussing conduits, this should be part of the building code and road construction code not sure if this is the correct term, we have been discussing last mile for the last five years on this list, now we should be discussing the Internet of things and other innovative ideas. To some extent i agree with Prof Leo regarding some of our practices in Africa, prophets are hardly recognized in their home towns, whereas charity ought to begin from home. On Dec 7, 2013 1:14 PM, "James Kulubi" <jkulubi@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Barrack I am dismayed by you statement “why other countries pick up out innovations and blue prints and become case studies to us.” Unfortunately, the pick-up of innovations on a global scale is what has led to the development of the modern society. Each country/continent can boast for its own contributions to the modern society and we should all be proud of this state of affairs. For instance, according to the Guinness Book of Records, the oldest and still surviving university in the world is on the African continent. Any attempt to localize, horde or to un-necessarily restrict the flow of knowledge and ideas is counterproductive in the modern world. My professor (Prof. Leo Van Biesen) once told me “You are suffering from third world mentality-what does it matter if you know something and nobody is using it? After all, somebody is soon going to conceive the same idea/innovation – if somebody doesn't know it already.” With a light touch. James
On Saturday, 7 December 2013, 11:28, Barrack Otieno < otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote: All,
What did it take for buildings in Nairobi to be painted a while back?, a simple order from the town clerk, we simple need visionary leadership, so much lobbying has been done until folks have grown hoarse, that why other countries pick up out innovations and blue prints and become case studies to us. To make it worse the wonderful projects are masterminded by sons of this land. Good points to reflect on now that Kenya is @ 50
Best Regards
On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 6:50 AM, Bobs <omondibob@gmail.com> wrote:
+1 Yonah!
Integrated project management! I mean government must stop working is silos.
we have just commissioned a mega railway project, that will run all the to Kigali, this is a perfect opportunity for relevant cables and to drive penetration inland!
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On Dec 7, 2013, at 4:57 AM, Zaipuna Yonah <zaipuna.yonah@gmail.com> wrote:
@Kivuva,
Here is an example when the elected miss it!
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On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 4:47 AM, Zaipuna Yonah <zaipuna.yonah@gmail.com>wrote:
@ Kivuva,
Well, lobbying may work, but it is a long process! The opportunity may not wait for you that long. Mind this: you are investing ahead of demand! So do this: try demanding the professionals at the responsible Ministries (those who formulate the projects) to stop thinking in Silos and think forward and long-term using integrated project planning! And make the Treasury guys to understand this! It is a pain we suffered and somehow solved the problem in Tanzania with our NICTBB. We know it works.
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On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 10:38 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com>wrote:
Nice Question Bob, and it has been asked here by hardcore Kictaneters countless times with no solution offered.
It’s alleged that in Japan, to add a new pair on the available duct, a motorcyclist runs through the duct with the cable tied to his tail.
Bob, I had a discussion with a guy from Switzerland on how to influence policy, and his response was through direct lobbying the policy makers. That might be the answer to your great question. We develop an ICT infrastructure policy paper and feed-it through the bureaucracy until its made law.
Remember, we are a developing country and you and I are part of the solution.
Barrack, NOFBI will be a success when it’s leased to a strategic and forward thinking investor like Google. Just saying.
Ducting usually accounts for over 60% of the cost of laying fibre-optic cables. Just like any other communication system, the problem is not with the links between towns which NOFBI addresses. The problem is with the last mile, i.e links to homes and businesses. As result many jurisdictions are conducting studies on the most efficient way to deliver broadband to homes and businesses. The EU study of July 2012 is available herefor those who want to dig deeper into the matter.
On Friday, 6 December 2013, 15:52, Barrack Otieno < otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
I think NOFBI is just ready to be switched, we just need a little inspiration and thoughtfullness going forwad now that economies depend on the Internet.
Best Regards
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Bobs <omondibob@gmail.com> wrote:
Which could have been avoided if the road contractors had included this element!
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On Dec 6, 2013, at 3:28 PM, Philip Adar <philip.adar@gmail.com> wrote:
We did NOFBI in Kenya (with the Government spending a couple of Billions
of
KES), but I am not sure if it is still working.
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Andrew Benson Greene <b.giftedfoundation@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Bob,
We in Sierra Leone have recently began to experience this as our
country
embarks massive fibre optics to help upgrade the ICT infrastructure and bring effective communication to the people. There is a little price being paid at the moment. The roads are being dug to help keep the fibre cables underground often causing inconvenience. The pleasant part is knowing that there is a high potential for infrastructural boom in the area of ICT and knowing fully well that access to ICT facilities will no longer be restricted and tenuous. Thanks, Andrew
On Friday, December 6, 2013, Bob Omondi wrote:
Dear Listers,
This is a subject that really troubles me.
Today, Africa is the destination for mega infrastructure projects especially in Roads and Building Construction. "Real Estate Boom" in now a common term in our continent and even bigger in Kenya.
But I still don't understand why we would spend a fortune to put up magnificent roads and buildings (of course sewer lines. water pipes
and
basic drainage along the roads are usually sorted out) and forget to lay fiber cables - the cheapest of the ingredients! In my opinion,
On 06/12/2013, James Kulubi <jkulubi@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: this
is a mistake that can be stopped!
What needs to be done to change this?
Regards Bob.
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participants (9)
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Ali Hussein -
Andrew Benson Greene -
Barrack Otieno -
Bob Omondi -
Bobs
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James Kulubi -
Kivuva -
Philip Adar -
Zaipuna Yonah