Re: [kictanet] shaping history - the revolution of the fibre
good qtn MM. In some forums, they are saying the President was duped again - and officially opened another "blank". We need to know when or if this new pipe is now pumping packets/data. And I dont think such data falls under the (in?) famous " Official secrecy Act"... walu. --- On Fri, 6/26/09, Muriuki Mureithi <mureithi@summitstrategies.co.ke> wrote: From: Muriuki Mureithi <mureithi@summitstrategies.co.ke> Subject: [kictanet] shaping history - the revolution of the fibre To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Friday, June 26, 2009, 4:40 PM Hi history was made on 12th June when the fibre landed - and it threatens to open up the region like the railway did in 1900's... Special congrats to Dr Bitange Ndemo and all those who contributed to this revolution . the ict terrain will never be the same again -EVER the next step is the light and the byte. when will the first byte land here on the fibre? cheers Muriuki Mureithi _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: jwalu@yahoo.com Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com
I think the President was witness to the official arrival of the final stretch of the Teams cable. I don't think anyone said that he commissioned the cable as obviously it needs to tested and go through a period of stabilization and powering. This will take some time. I do not have the most accurate figure yet but it's about 8 to 10 weeks before handing over to Teams for acceptance testing. Regards Michael CEO Safaricom Limited ________________________________ From: kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Walubengo J Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 10:01 AM To: Michael Joseph Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] shaping history - the revolution of the fibre good qtn MM. In some forums, they are saying the President was duped again - and officially opened another "blank". We need to know when or if this new pipe is now pumping packets/data. And I dont think such data falls under the (in?) famous " Official secrecy Act"... walu. --- On Fri, 6/26/09, Muriuki Mureithi <mureithi@summitstrategies.co.ke> wrote: From: Muriuki Mureithi <mureithi@summitstrategies.co.ke> Subject: [kictanet] shaping history - the revolution of the fibre To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Friday, June 26, 2009, 4:40 PM Hi history was made on 12th June when the fibre landed - and it threatens to open up the region like the railway did in 1900's... Special congrats to Dr Bitange Ndemo and all those who contributed to this revolution . the ict terrain will never be the same again -EVER the next step is the light and the byte. when will the first byte land here on the fibre? cheers Muriuki Mureithi _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: jwalu@yahoo.com Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com ##################################################################################### NOTE: The information in this email and any attachments is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the named addressee. Emails are susceptible to alteration and their integrity cannot be guaranteed. Safaricom Limited does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this email if the same is found to have been altered or manipulated. The contents and opinions expressed in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Safaricom Limited. Safaricom Limited disclaims any liability to the fullest extent permissible by law for any consequences that may arise from the contents of this email including but not limited to personal opinions, malicious and/or defamatory information and data/codes that may compromise or damage the integrity of the recipient�s information technology systems. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender and immediately delete this email from your system. #####################################################################################
All, Teams Policy Position: For the record, on this issue I agree with Michael Joseph 100 per cent. Though 'expose' are ever so sweet, care we don't over-burn selves with non-issue side shows.. Alex On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Michael Joseph<MJoseph@safaricom.co.ke> wrote:
I think the President was witness to the official arrival of the final stretch of the Teams cable. I don’t think anyone said that he commissioned the cable as obviously it needs to tested and go through a period of stabilization and powering. This will take some time. I do not have the most accurate figure yet but it’s about 8 to 10 weeks before handing over to Teams for acceptance testing.
Regards
Michael
CEO
Safaricom Limited
________________________________
From: kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Walubengo J Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 10:01 AM To: Michael Joseph Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] shaping history - the revolution of the fibre
good qtn MM.
In some forums, they are saying the President was duped again - and officially opened another "blank". We need to know when or if this new pipe is now pumping packets/data.
And I dont think such data falls under the (in?) famous " Official secrecy Act"...
walu.
--- On Fri, 6/26/09, Muriuki Mureithi <mureithi@summitstrategies.co.ke> wrote:
From: Muriuki Mureithi <mureithi@summitstrategies.co.ke> Subject: [kictanet] shaping history - the revolution of the fibre To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Friday, June 26, 2009, 4:40 PM
Hi history was made on 12th June when the fibre landed - and it threatens to open up the region like the railway did in 1900's... Special congrats to Dr Bitange Ndemo and all those who contributed to this revolution . the ict terrain will never be the same again -EVER
the next step is the light and the byte. when will the first byte land here on the fibre?
cheers Muriuki Mureithi
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I also second MJ and Alex. Sideshow *expose* are really sweet to the ears. The much anticiapted hype has made some people think the President was duped in to signing another 'blank cheque' I think it is prudent we continue monitoring the progress made in bringing the fibre home. The Somali Pirates didn't hijack this as word is going round the SEACOM cable has been delayed due to piracy on the HOA. Patience, will make 8 weeks look like an hour! 2009/6/29 Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com>
All,
Teams Policy Position: For the record, on this issue I agree with Michael Joseph 100 per cent. Though 'expose' are ever so sweet, care we don't over-burn selves with non-issue side shows..
Alex
I think the President was witness to the official arrival of the final stretch of the Teams cable. I don’t think anyone said that he commissioned the cable as obviously it needs to tested and go through a period of stabilization and powering. This will take some time. I do not have the most accurate figure yet but it’s about 8 to 10 weeks before handing over to Teams for acceptance testing.
Regards
Michael
CEO
Safaricom Limited
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From: kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+mjoseph <kictanet-bounces%2Bmjoseph>= safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Walubengo J Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 10:01 AM To: Michael Joseph Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] shaping history - the revolution of the fibre
good qtn MM.
In some forums, they are saying the President was duped again - and officially opened another "blank". We need to know when or if this new
is now pumping packets/data.
And I dont think such data falls under the (in?) famous " Official secrecy Act"...
walu.
--- On Fri, 6/26/09, Muriuki Mureithi <mureithi@summitstrategies.co.ke> wrote:
From: Muriuki Mureithi <mureithi@summitstrategies.co.ke> Subject: [kictanet] shaping history - the revolution of the fibre To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Friday, June 26, 2009, 4:40 PM
Hi history was made on 12th June when the fibre landed - and it threatens to open up the region like the railway did in 1900's... Special congrats to Dr Bitange Ndemo and all those who contributed to this revolution . the ict terrain will never be the same again -EVER
the next step is the light and the byte. when will the first byte land here on the fibre?
cheers Muriuki Mureithi
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Thank you Michael for this clarification. We need these facts to avoid the usual politics. tim On 6/29/09, Michael Joseph <MJoseph@safaricom.co.ke> wrote:
I think the President was witness to the official arrival of the final stretch of the Teams cable. I don’t think anyone said that he commissioned the cable as obviously it needs to tested and go through a period of stabilization and powering. This will take some time. I do not have the most accurate figure yet but it’s about 8 to 10 weeks before handing over to Teams for acceptance testing.
Regards
Michael
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*From:* kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke[mailto: kictanet-bounces+mjoseph <kictanet-bounces%2Bmjoseph>=safaricom.co.ke@ lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Walubengo J *Sent:* Saturday, June 27, 2009 10:01 AM *To:* Michael Joseph *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] shaping history - the revolution of the fibre
good qtn MM.
In some forums, they are saying the President was duped again - and officially opened another "blank". We need to know when or if this new pipe is now pumping packets/data.
And I dont think such data falls under the (in?) famous " Official secrecy Act"...
walu.
--- On *Fri, 6/26/09, Muriuki Mureithi <mureithi@summitstrategies.co.ke>*wrote:
From: Muriuki Mureithi <mureithi@summitstrategies.co.ke> Subject: [kictanet] shaping history - the revolution of the fibre To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Friday, June 26, 2009, 4:40 PM
Hi history was made on 12th June when the fibre landed - and it threatens to open up the region like the railway did in 1900's... Special congrats to Dr Bitange Ndemo and all those who contributed to this revolution . the ict terrain will never be the same again -EVER
the next step is the light and the byte. when will the first byte land here on the fibre?
cheers Muriuki Mureithi
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It a great step in the right direction. however can we ensure that it doesn't end up like the railway system. We know its there but how many of us actually use it today? Now that we have it can we work on the electricity? Push to get power in our homes, offices etc 24/7/365. On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 8:05 AM, Mwololo Tim <timwololo@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you Michael for this clarification. We need these facts to avoid the usual politics. tim
On 6/29/09, Michael Joseph <MJoseph@safaricom.co.ke> wrote:
I think the President was witness to the official arrival of the final stretch of the Teams cable. I don’t think anyone said that he commissioned the cable as obviously it needs to tested and go through a period of stabilization and powering. This will take some time. I do not have the most accurate figure yet but it’s about 8 to 10 weeks before handing over to Teams for acceptance testing.
Regards
Michael
*CEO*
*Safaricom Limited*
------------------------------
*From:* kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke[mailto: kictanet-bounces+mjoseph <kictanet-bounces%2Bmjoseph>=safaricom.co.ke@ lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Walubengo J *Sent:* Saturday, June 27, 2009 10:01 AM *To:* Michael Joseph *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] shaping history - the revolution of the fibre
good qtn MM.
In some forums, they are saying the President was duped again - and officially opened another "blank". We need to know when or if this new pipe is now pumping packets/data.
And I dont think such data falls under the (in?) famous " Official secrecy Act"...
walu.
--- On *Fri, 6/26/09, Muriuki Mureithi <mureithi@summitstrategies.co.ke>*wrote:
From: Muriuki Mureithi <mureithi@summitstrategies.co.ke> Subject: [kictanet] shaping history - the revolution of the fibre To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Friday, June 26, 2009, 4:40 PM
Hi history was made on 12th June when the fibre landed - and it threatens to open up the region like the railway did in 1900's... Special congrats to Dr Bitange Ndemo and all those who contributed to this revolution . the ict terrain will never be the same again -EVER
the next step is the light and the byte. when will the first byte land here on the fibre?
cheers Muriuki Mureithi
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There is much hype on the availability of internet even at home. This revolution, we really need to have it protected from the politicians hijacking, claiming it as their project. Talking about electricity, I view that in order to make the fibre optic cable, there is a need to make the project a multi-sectoral approach. By this I mean, different ministries (Communications, Energy, Industrialization, Trade etc), private sector ( corporates, Banks etc) Telcos( Safaricom, Zain, Orange and Yu) etc, should be on the forefront to make the cable have an impact to the majority of the people. I haven ot heard, or seen any of the directly beneficiaries of the fibre optic cables informing there end-consumers on what id expected of them from this revolution. (I stand to be corrected on this) Aggressive information to the masses is important so that we don't get caught with our pants down, before the SEACOM and EASSY Cables land! My thoughts! Regards, 2009/7/1 Stephen Mwangi <smwngi@gmail.com>
It a great step in the right direction. however can we ensure that it doesn't end up like the railway system. We know its there but how many of us actually use it today? Now that we have it can we work on the electricity? Push to get power in our homes, offices etc 24/7/365.
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 8:05 AM, Mwololo Tim <timwololo@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you Michael for this clarification. We need these facts to avoid the usual politics. tim
On 6/29/09, Michael Joseph <MJoseph@safaricom.co.ke> wrote:
I think the President was witness to the official arrival of the final stretch of the Teams cable. I don’t think anyone said that he commissioned the cable as obviously it needs to tested and go through a period of stabilization and powering. This will take some time. I do not have the most accurate figure yet but it’s about 8 to 10 weeks before handing over to Teams for acceptance testing.
Regards
Michael
*CEO*
*Safaricom Limited*
------------------------------
*From:* kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke[mailto: kictanet-bounces+mjoseph <kictanet-bounces%2Bmjoseph>=safaricom.co.ke@ lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Walubengo J *Sent:* Saturday, June 27, 2009 10:01 AM *To:* Michael Joseph *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] shaping history - the revolution of the fibre
good qtn MM.
In some forums, they are saying the President was duped again - and officially opened another "blank". We need to know when or if this new pipe is now pumping packets/data.
And I dont think such data falls under the (in?) famous " Official secrecy Act"...
walu.
--- On *Fri, 6/26/09, Muriuki Mureithi <mureithi@summitstrategies.co.ke> * wrote:
From: Muriuki Mureithi <mureithi@summitstrategies.co.ke> Subject: [kictanet] shaping history - the revolution of the fibre To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Friday, June 26, 2009, 4:40 PM
Hi history was made on 12th June when the fibre landed - and it threatens to open up the region like the railway did in 1900's... Special congrats to Dr Bitange Ndemo and all those who contributed to this revolution . the ict terrain will never be the same again -EVER
the next step is the light and the byte. when will the first byte land here on the fibre?
cheers Muriuki Mureithi
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