Fwd: Tandaa - An Honest Analysis
Well, well, well. Do I sense a cyber " warning " here ? Robert, clearly something is amiss.... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Robert Alai <alai.robert@gmail.com> Date: Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 3:46 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Tandaa - An Honest Analysis To: aki <aki275@googlemail.com> Aki who are you? what are your achievement and knowledge on ICT? You dont even know anything you are talking about. I will never have a phobia for local content. I love it and would fight for it. But I can never argue with you because first, you are ashamed of yourself that you wont come out of the fake cocoon. I deal with real people and real issues and until then, you dont play in my league and you are not invited to any of my sites. KEEP OFF Alai On 11/18/08, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
My last thoughts on this before it becomes more like a blogging site. Robert, you are still unable to define local content and therefore unable to match any criticism or critic. Mixing small words with bigger words for the sake of it is the usual illusion. I think the severe arrogance and phobia of local everything ( of course with the usual spices such as politics, leaders and events, esle the traffic to sites would not exist ) is over-rated and the best effort so far according to you for local content is a website that I'd never visit or waste any time on.
So simply moving forward, and as Josiah and the others mentioned : Define local content and we will start to get somewhere.
Get to the point.
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Lol why the wars Anyway I think we have a huge problem , ICT people think that just because you can install a pirated copy of xp then you are an expert in anything ICT related I truly envy other proffesions like medical,a. Dental surgeon won't comment on plastics surgeons area , with achitecs they interior. Does not comment on structures ,lawyers have branches like criminal constitutional etc ICT you will find a computer driving license holder calling himself herself an analyst comeon guys let's be serious and let's this quacks filled industry better and stop pretending that we are all now experts in local contents Me thoughts On 11/18/08, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
Well, well, well. Do I sense a cyber " warning " here ? Robert, clearly something is amiss....
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Robert Alai <alai.robert@gmail.com> Date: Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 3:46 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Tandaa - An Honest Analysis To: aki <aki275@googlemail.com>
Aki
who are you? what are your achievement and knowledge on ICT? You dont even know anything you are talking about. I will never have a phobia for local content. I love it and would fight for it. But I can never argue with you because first, you are ashamed of yourself that you wont come out of the fake cocoon.
I deal with real people and real issues and until then, you dont play in my league and you are not invited to any of my sites. KEEP OFF
Alai
On 11/18/08, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
My last thoughts on this before it becomes more like a blogging site. Robert, you are still unable to define local content and therefore unable to match any criticism or critic. Mixing small words with bigger words for the sake of it is the usual illusion. I think the severe arrogance and phobia of local everything ( of course with the usual spices such as politics, leaders and events, esle the traffic to sites would not exist ) is over-rated and the best effort so far according to you for local content is a website that I'd never visit or waste any time on.
So simply moving forward, and as Josiah and the others mentioned : Define local content and we will start to get somewhere.
Get to the point.
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Gachui You are trying to get attention here in a fight you are not into. Why do people behave this way? JM ________________________________ From: gachuhi anthony <gachuhi.anthony@gmail.com> To: j.maina@ymail.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 4:34:35 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Tandaa - An Honest Analysis Lol why the wars Anyway I think we have a huge problem , ICT people think that just because you can install a pirated copy of xp then you are an expert in anything ICT related I truly envy other proffesions like medical,a. Dental surgeon won't comment on plastics surgeons area , with achitecs they interior. Does not comment on structures ,lawyers have branches like criminal constitutional etc ICT you will find a computer driving license holder calling himself herself an analyst comeon guys let's be serious and let's this quacks filled industry better and stop pretending that we are all now experts in local contents Me thoughts On 11/18/08, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
Well, well, well. Do I sense a cyber " warning " here ? Robert, clearly something is amiss....
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Robert Alai <alai.robert@gmail.com> Date: Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 3:46 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Tandaa - An Honest Analysis To: aki <aki275@googlemail.com>
Aki
who are you? what are your achievement and knowledge on ICT? You dont even know anything you are talking about. I will never have a phobia for local content. I love it and would fight for it. But I can never argue with you because first, you are ashamed of yourself that you wont come out of the fake cocoon.
I deal with real people and real issues and until then, you dont play in my league and you are not invited to any of my sites. KEEP OFF
Alai
On 11/18/08, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
My last thoughts on this before it becomes more like a blogging site. Robert, you are still unable to define local content and therefore unable to match any criticism or critic. Mixing small words with bigger words for the sake of it is the usual illusion. I think the severe arrogance and phobia of local everything ( of course with the usual spices such as politics, leaders and events, esle the traffic to sites would not exist ) is over-rated and the best effort so far according to you for local content is a website that I'd never visit or waste any time on.
So simply moving forward, and as Josiah and the others mentioned : Define local content and we will start to get somewhere.
Get to the point.
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Not to worry Aki, I've received similar ones ;-) On a serious ettiquette note, should people be be free to send threats and insults off-line to people who disagree with their views on the list?...yet remain on the list? I hope this time I won't receive a scary offline message ;-) Wainaina On 11/18/08, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
Well, well, well. Do I sense a cyber " warning " here ? Robert, clearly something is amiss....
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Robert Alai <alai.robert@gmail.com> Date: Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 3:46 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Tandaa - An Honest Analysis To: aki <aki275@googlemail.com>
Aki
who are you? what are your achievement and knowledge on ICT? You dont even know anything you are talking about. I will never have a phobia for local content. I love it and would fight for it. But I can never argue with you because first, you are ashamed of yourself that you wont come out of the fake cocoon.
I deal with real people and real issues and until then, you dont play in my league and you are not invited to any of my sites. KEEP OFF
Alai
On 11/18/08, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
My last thoughts on this before it becomes more like a blogging site. Robert, you are still unable to define local content and therefore unable to match any criticism or critic. Mixing small words with bigger words for the sake of it is the usual illusion. I think the severe arrogance and phobia of local everything ( of course with the usual spices such as politics, leaders and events, esle the traffic to sites would not exist ) is over-rated and the best effort so far according to you for local content is a website that I'd never visit or waste any time on.
So simply moving forward, and as Josiah and the others mentioned : Define local content and we will start to get somewhere.
Get to the point.
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Wainaina Send the threat here and now we see what threat you got and from who. Dont cry wolf since, as my day says, when the Nyang'au comes, you might not be able to handle. Alai On 11/18/08, Wainaina Mungai <wainaina@madeinkenya.org> wrote:
Not to worry Aki,
I've received similar ones ;-)
On a serious ettiquette note, should people be be free to send threats and insults off-line to people who disagree with their views on the list?...yet remain on the list?
I hope this time I won't receive a scary offline message ;-)
Wainaina
Well, well, well. Do I sense a cyber " warning " here ? Robert, clearly something is amiss....
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Robert Alai <alai.robert@gmail.com> Date: Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 3:46 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Tandaa - An Honest Analysis To: aki <aki275@googlemail.com>
Aki
who are you? what are your achievement and knowledge on ICT? You dont even know anything you are talking about. I will never have a phobia for local content. I love it and would fight for it. But I can never argue with you because first, you are ashamed of yourself that you wont come out of the fake cocoon.
I deal with real people and real issues and until then, you dont play in my league and you are not invited to any of my sites. KEEP OFF
Alai
On 11/18/08, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
My last thoughts on this before it becomes more like a blogging site. Robert, you are still unable to define local content and therefore unable to match any criticism or critic. Mixing small words with bigger words for the sake of it is the usual illusion. I think the severe arrogance and
On 11/18/08, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote: phobia
of local everything ( of course with the usual spices such as politics, leaders and events, esle the traffic to sites would not exist ) is over-rated and the best effort so far according to you for local content is a website that I'd never visit or waste any time on.
So simply moving forward, and as Josiah and the others mentioned : Define local content and we will start to get somewhere.
Get to the point.
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Well, well, well. Do I sense a cyber " warning " here ? Robert, clearly something is amiss....
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Robert Alai <alai.robert@gmail.com> Date: Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 3:46 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Tandaa - An Honest Analysis To: aki <aki275@googlemail.com>
Aki
who are you? what are your achievement and knowledge on ICT? You dont even know anything you are talking about. I will never have a phobia for local content. I love it and would fight for it. But I can never argue with you because first, you are ashamed of yourself that you wont come out of the fake cocoon.
I deal with real people and real issues and until then, you dont play in my league and you are not invited to any of my sites. KEEP OFF
Alai
On 11/18/08, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
My last thoughts on this before it becomes more like a blogging site. Robert, you are still unable to define local content and therefore unable to match any criticism or critic. Mixing small words with bigger words for the sake of it is the usual illusion. I think the severe arrogance and
Wainaina I think that now you are not making sense. You dont seem to have any facts for opposing Robert but just want to look like a molested child. Lets take criticism kindly and honestly. Cheap and misconceived and arrogant reply will just result into fghts which nobody would love in the forum When someone comes to these fora and he/she is new, you will get people trying to out do each other on how they are the experts, but let me tell you that expertise in a profession is never meassured in how many papers you have, its what you have achieved with your papers and recognition. However much we would like to say Robert is bad, I am in his list but running 12,000 people with more than 500 daily emailss is hard whatever way you look at it JM --- On Tue, 11/18/08, Wainaina Mungai <wainaina@madeinkenya.org> wrote: From: Wainaina Mungai <wainaina@madeinkenya.org> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Tandaa - An Honest Analysis To: j.maina@ymail.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 1:44 PM Not to worry Aki, I've received similar ones ;-) On a serious ettiquette note, should people be be free to send threats and insults off-line to people who disagree with their views on the list?...yet remain on the list? I hope this time I won't receive a scary offline message ;-) Wainaina On 11/18/08, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote: phobia
of local everything ( of course with the usual spices such as politics, leaders and events, esle the traffic to sites would not exist ) is over-rated and the best effort so far according to you for local content is a website that I'd never visit or waste any time on.
So simply moving forward, and as Josiah and the others mentioned : Define local content and we will start to get somewhere.
Get to the point.
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JM Dont worry about scarecrows. They exist everywhere including our homes. People who have no achievement at all in ICT life apart from holding paper degrees are fighting head over heels to be with the crowd Its mans nature and even in the animal kingdom you will see dogs who are known to be most afraid trying to bite visiting dogs just to show that they also have some teeth Alai On 11/18/08, John Maina <j.maina@ymail.com> wrote:
Wainaina
I think that now you are not making sense.
You dont seem to have any facts for opposing Robert but just want to look like a molested child.
Lets take criticism kindly and honestly. Cheap and misconceived and arrogant reply will just result into fghts which nobody would love in the forum
When someone comes to these fora and he/she is new, you will get people trying to out do each other on how they are the experts, but let me tell you that expertise in a profession is never meassured in how many papers you have, its what you have achieved with your papers and recognition.
However much we would like to say Robert is bad, I am in his list but running 12,000 people with more than 500 daily emailss is hard whatever way you look at it
JM
--- On *Tue, 11/18/08, Wainaina Mungai <wainaina@madeinkenya.org>* wrote:
From: Wainaina Mungai <wainaina@madeinkenya.org> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Tandaa - An Honest Analysis To: j.maina@ymail.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 1:44 PM
Not to worry Aki,
I've received similar ones ;-)
On a serious ettiquette note, should people be be free to send threats and insults off-line to people who disagree with their views on the list?...yet remain on the list?
I hope this time I won't receive a scary offline message ;-)
Wainaina
Well, well, well. Do I sense a cyber " warning " here ? Robert, clearly something is amiss....
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Robert Alai <alai.robert@gmail.com> Date: Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 3:46 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Tandaa - An Honest Analysis To: aki <aki275@googlemail.com>
Aki
who are you? what are your achievement and knowledge on ICT? You dont even know anything you are talking about. I will never have a phobia for local content. I love it and would fight for it. But I can never argue with you because first, you are ashamed of yourself that you wont come out of the fake cocoon.
I deal with real people and real issues and until then, you dont play in my league and you are not invited to any of my sites. KEEP OFF
Alai
On 11/18/08, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
My last thoughts on this before it becomes more like a blogging site. Robert, you are still unable to define local content and therefore unable to match any criticism or critic. Mixing small words with bigger words for the sake of it is the usual illusion. I think the severe arrogance and
On 11/18/08, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote: phobia
of local everything ( of course with the usual spices such as politics, leaders and events, esle the traffic to sites would not exist ) is over-rated and the best effort so far according to you for local content is a website that I'd never visit or waste any time on.
So simply moving forward, and as Josiah and the others mentioned : Define local content and we will start to get somewhere.
Get to the point.
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Maina et. al. I think the issue of "local spam" & forced subscriptions to lists actually started with Alex. Another person raised it...and then Aki got a mischevious offline message...so did i. Ignoring the facts above is allowing us to distort the issue here. I was asked to complain directly to the list owner; something I have done numerous times. Now that the list owner is the sender of offline messages, i'd appreciate a conclusion on the issue of LOCAL SPAM. ;-) calmly, Wainaina On 11/18/08, John Maina <j.maina@ymail.com> wrote:
Wainaina
I think that now you are not making sense.
You dont seem to have any facts for opposing Robert but just want to look like a molested child.
Lets take criticism kindly and honestly. Cheap and misconceived and arrogant reply will just result into fghts which nobody would love in the forum
When someone comes to these fora and he/she is new, you will get people trying to out do each other on how they are the experts, but let me tell you that expertise in a profession is never meassured in how many papers you have, its what you have achieved with your papers and recognition.
However much we would like to say Robert is bad, I am in his list but running 12,000 people with more than 500 daily emailss is hard whatever way you look at it
JM
--- On Tue, 11/18/08, Wainaina Mungai <wainaina@madeinkenya.org> wrote: From: Wainaina Mungai <wainaina@madeinkenya.org> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Tandaa - An Honest Analysis To: j.maina@ymail.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 1:44 PM
Not to worry Aki,
I've received similar ones ;-)
On a serious ettiquette note, should people be be free to send threats and insults off-line to people who disagree with their views on the list?...yet remain on the list?
I hope this time I won't receive a scary offline message ;-)
Wainaina
Well, well, well. Do I sense a cyber " warning " here ? Robert, clearly something is amiss....
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Robert Alai <alai.robert@gmail.com> Date: Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 3:46 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Tandaa - An Honest Analysis To: aki <aki275@googlemail.com>
Aki
who are you? what are your achievement and knowledge on ICT? You dont even know anything you are talking about. I will never have a phobia for local content. I love it and would fight for it. But I can never argue with you because first, you are ashamed of yourself that you wont come out of the fake cocoon.
I deal with real people and real issues and until then, you dont play in my league and you are not invited to any of my sites. KEEP OFF
Alai
On 11/18/08, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
My last thoughts on this before it becomes more like a blogging site. Robert, you are still unable to define local content and therefore unable to match any criticism or critic. Mixing small words with bigger words for the sake of it is the usual illusion. I think the severe arrogance and
On 11/18/08, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote: phobia
of local everything ( of course with the usual spices such as politics, leaders and events, esle the traffic to sites would not exist ) is over-rated and the best effort so far according to you for local content is a website that I'd never visit or waste any time on.
So simply moving forward, and as Josiah and the others mentioned : Define local content and we will start to get somewhere.
Get to the point.
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Wainaina Send me the local spam and offline message and know that I dont ever acts on threats but on a mutual agreement that we are all equal regards Robert On 11/18/08, Wainaina Mungai <wainaina@madeinkenya.org> wrote:
Maina et. al.
I think the issue of "local spam" & forced subscriptions to lists actually started with Alex. Another person raised it...and then Aki got a mischevious offline message...so did i.
Ignoring the facts above is allowing us to distort the issue here. I was asked to complain directly to the list owner; something I have done numerous times. Now that the list owner is the sender of offline messages, i'd appreciate a conclusion on the issue of LOCAL SPAM.
;-) calmly,
Wainaina
On 11/18/08, John Maina <j.maina@ymail.com> wrote:
Wainaina
I think that now you are not making sense.
You dont seem to have any facts for opposing Robert but just want to look like a molested child.
Lets take criticism kindly and honestly. Cheap and misconceived and arrogant reply will just result into fghts which nobody would love in the forum
When someone comes to these fora and he/she is new, you will get people trying to out do each other on how they are the experts, but let me tell you that expertise in a profession is never meassured in how many papers you have, its what you have achieved with your papers and recognition.
However much we would like to say Robert is bad, I am in his list but running 12,000 people with more than 500 daily emailss is hard whatever way you look at it
JM
--- On Tue, 11/18/08, Wainaina Mungai <wainaina@madeinkenya.org> wrote: From: Wainaina Mungai <wainaina@madeinkenya.org> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Tandaa - An Honest Analysis To: j.maina@ymail.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 1:44 PM
Not to worry Aki,
I've received similar ones ;-)
On a serious ettiquette note, should people be be free to send threats and insults off-line to people who disagree with their views on the list?...yet remain on the list?
I hope this time I won't receive a scary offline message ;-)
Wainaina
Well, well, well. Do I sense a cyber " warning " here ? Robert, clearly something is amiss....
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Robert Alai <alai.robert@gmail.com> Date: Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 3:46 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Tandaa - An Honest Analysis To: aki <aki275@googlemail.com>
Aki
who are you? what are your achievement and knowledge on ICT? You dont even know anything you are talking about. I will never have a phobia for local content. I love it and would fight for it. But I can never argue with you because first, you are ashamed of yourself that you wont come out of the fake cocoon.
I deal with real people and real issues and until then, you dont play in my league and you are not invited to any of my sites. KEEP OFF
Alai
On 11/18/08, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
My last thoughts on this before it becomes more like a blogging site. Robert, you are still unable to define local content and therefore unable to match any criticism or critic. Mixing small words with bigger words for the sake of it is the usual illusion. I think the severe arrogance and
On 11/18/08, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote: phobia
of local everything ( of course with the usual spices such as politics, leaders and events, esle the traffic to sites would not exist ) is over-rated and the best effort so far according to you for local content is a website that I'd never visit or waste any time on.
So simply moving forward, and as Josiah and the others mentioned : Define local content and we will start to get somewhere.
Get to the point.
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