Dr. Ndemo, Can you or anyone one in the forum please clarify the rules for the Interconnection with other Carriers in Kenya. Especially the 4 Mobile operators and in the case of Orange .... for both. It would appear to me that given the current mode of operation, the Interconnections are handled more like a Catel type of operation. Interconnection to these companies unfornately is like being inducted to some kind of a priveledged members only club yet CCK is proud to offer you a licence to operate. It's similar to being sold Tickets to concert legitimately but when you get to the Concert, you're informed that this is by invitation only. What a Joke! this such failure in policy, and or lack of enforcement of if there is one it goes beyond reason. It shocked me recently when I was talking to one of the Very Senior Executives at Orange, who bluntly told me and I quote.... "We don't listen to them" implying CCK this was after I informed this official our company Enterprise Data Freedom Ltd. (EDF) had filed grievances with the CCK. And I was like sure you don't because its been over a year since we initially complained to CCK and nothing has come out it. What are we paying CCK for I wonder if they can't even safe guard the interests of their stakeholders? I hate to bring this up but I'm left no options, my background in this business has been in the United States and as we may all be able to attest to, they're very advanced when it comes to communications....but this is not because the government incubates some Telcos and turns the face away on the small players....NO! NO! this is simply because they have a government that believes ideas come BIG and SMALL and the environment they create is one that suits all participants regardless of the amount of Taxes they pay to the Govt. It's a great idea for this Goventment to encourage growth in the ICT sector but if field unto which the game is played at is not even, then a lot of those great ideas that come from the small and agile companies. Dr. PS I have had a chat with you on this matter one on one in your office but I cat tell you that even I did all you recommended, nothing has happened. So your comment to the general public on this matter would be very much appreciated. Mwaniki Njoroge, CEO, EDF mwaniki@edf.co.ke www.edf.co.ke www.yealink.com
An interconnect clearing house for Kenya is long overdue. And independent business that offers facilities to handle and manage technical connections (simplifying and reducing the number of connections needed for bilateral agreement) and financial settlements in a timely manner. But given the complex web of powerful interests that must be untangled to make this happen, such an initiative may never see the light of day.... Brian On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Mwaniki Njoroge <mwanikig@gmail.com>wrote:
Dr. Ndemo,
Can you or anyone one in the forum please clarify the rules for the Interconnection with other Carriers in Kenya. Especially the 4 Mobile operators and in the case of Orange .... for both.
It would appear to me that given the current mode of operation, the Interconnections are handled more like a Catel type of operation. Interconnection to these companies unfornately is like being inducted to some kind of a priveledged members only club yet CCK is proud to offer you a licence to operate.
It's similar to being sold Tickets to concert legitimately but when you get to the Concert, you're informed that this is by invitation only. What a Joke! this such failure in policy, and or lack of enforcement of if there is one it goes beyond reason.
It shocked me recently when I was talking to one of the Very Senior Executives at Orange, who bluntly told me and I quote.... "We don't listen to them" implying CCK this was after I informed this official our company Enterprise Data Freedom Ltd. (EDF) had filed grievances with the CCK. And I was like sure you don't because its been over a year since we initially complained to CCK and nothing has come out it. What are we paying CCK for I wonder if they can't even safe guard the interests of their stakeholders?
I hate to bring this up but I'm left no options, my background in this business has been in the United States and as we may all be able to attest to, they're very advanced when it comes to communications....but this is not because the government incubates some Telcos and turns the face away on the small players....NO! NO! this is simply because they have a government that believes ideas come BIG and SMALL and the environment they create is one that suits all participants regardless of the amount of Taxes they pay to the Govt.
It's a great idea for this Goventment to encourage growth in the ICT sector but if field unto which the game is played at is not even, then a lot of those great ideas that come from the small and agile companies.
Dr. PS I have had a chat with you on this matter one on one in your office but I cat tell you that even I did all you recommended, nothing has happened. So your comment to the general public on this matter would be very much appreciated.
Mwaniki Njoroge, CEO, EDF mwaniki@edf.co.ke www.edf.co.ke www.yealink.com
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Mwaniki, CCK can help here. I will pass the e-mail to the regulator. Regards Ndemo.
Dr. Ndemo,
Can you or anyone one in the forum please clarify the rules for the Interconnection with other Carriers in Kenya. Especially the 4 Mobile operators and in the case of Orange .... for both.
It would appear to me that given the current mode of operation, the Interconnections are handled more like a Catel type of operation. Interconnection to these companies unfornately is like being inducted to some kind of a priveledged members only club yet CCK is proud to offer you a licence to operate.
It's similar to being sold Tickets to concert legitimately but when you get to the Concert, you're informed that this is by invitation only. What a Joke! this such failure in policy, and or lack of enforcement of if there is one it goes beyond reason.
It shocked me recently when I was talking to one of the Very Senior Executives at Orange, who bluntly told me and I quote.... "We don't listen to them" implying CCK this was after I informed this official our company Enterprise Data Freedom Ltd. (EDF) had filed grievances with the CCK. And I was like sure you don't because its been over a year since we initially complained to CCK and nothing has come out it. What are we paying CCK for I wonder if they can't even safe guard the interests of their stakeholders?
I hate to bring this up but I'm left no options, my background in this business has been in the United States and as we may all be able to attest to, they're very advanced when it comes to communications....but this is not because the government incubates some Telcos and turns the face away on the small players....NO! NO! this is simply because they have a government that believes ideas come BIG and SMALL and the environment they create is one that suits all participants regardless of the amount of Taxes they pay to the Govt.
It's a great idea for this Goventment to encourage growth in the ICT sector but if field unto which the game is played at is not even, then a lot of those great ideas that come from the small and agile companies.
Dr. PS I have had a chat with you on this matter one on one in your office but I cat tell you that even I did all you recommended, nothing has happened. So your comment to the general public on this matter would be very much appreciated.
Mwaniki Njoroge, CEO, EDF mwaniki@edf.co.ke www.edf.co.ke www.yealink.com
Thanks Bw. PS. I truly hope the regulator will do their job. Best Regards, Mwaniki Njoroge Sent from my iPhone On Apr 2, 2012, at 1:22 PM, bitange@jambo.co.ke wrote:
Mwaniki, CCK can help here. I will pass the e-mail to the regulator.
Regards
Ndemo.
Dr. Ndemo,
Can you or anyone one in the forum please clarify the rules for the Interconnection with other Carriers in Kenya. Especially the 4 Mobile operators and in the case of Orange .... for both.
It would appear to me that given the current mode of operation, the Interconnections are handled more like a Catel type of operation. Interconnection to these companies unfornately is like being inducted to some kind of a priveledged members only club yet CCK is proud to offer you a licence to operate.
It's similar to being sold Tickets to concert legitimately but when you get to the Concert, you're informed that this is by invitation only. What a Joke! this such failure in policy, and or lack of enforcement of if there is one it goes beyond reason.
It shocked me recently when I was talking to one of the Very Senior Executives at Orange, who bluntly told me and I quote.... "We don't listen to them" implying CCK this was after I informed this official our company Enterprise Data Freedom Ltd. (EDF) had filed grievances with the CCK. And I was like sure you don't because its been over a year since we initially complained to CCK and nothing has come out it. What are we paying CCK for I wonder if they can't even safe guard the interests of their stakeholders?
I hate to bring this up but I'm left no options, my background in this business has been in the United States and as we may all be able to attest to, they're very advanced when it comes to communications....but this is not because the government incubates some Telcos and turns the face away on the small players....NO! NO! this is simply because they have a government that believes ideas come BIG and SMALL and the environment they create is one that suits all participants regardless of the amount of Taxes they pay to the Govt.
It's a great idea for this Goventment to encourage growth in the ICT sector but if field unto which the game is played at is not even, then a lot of those great ideas that come from the small and agile companies.
Dr. PS I have had a chat with you on this matter one on one in your office but I cat tell you that even I did all you recommended, nothing has happened. So your comment to the general public on this matter would be very much appreciated.
Mwaniki Njoroge, CEO, EDF mwaniki@edf.co.ke www.edf.co.ke www.yealink.com
Mwaniki, CCK can help here. I will pass the e-mail to the regulator.
Regards
Ndemo.
Dr. Ndemo,
Can you or anyone one in the forum please clarify the rules for the Interconnection with other Carriers in Kenya. Especially the 4 Mobile operators and in the case of Orange .... for both.
It would appear to me that given the current mode of operation, the Interconnections are handled more like a Catel type of operation. Interconnection to these companies unfornately is like being inducted to some kind of a priveledged members only club yet CCK is proud to offer you a licence to operate.
It's similar to being sold Tickets to concert legitimately but when you get to the Concert, you're informed that this is by invitation only. What a Joke! this such failure in policy, and or lack of enforcement of if
is one it goes beyond reason.
It shocked me recently when I was talking to one of the Very Senior Executives at Orange, who bluntly told me and I quote.... "We don't
to them" implying CCK this was after I informed this official our company Enterprise Data Freedom Ltd. (EDF) had filed grievances with the CCK. And I was like sure you don't because its been over a year since we initially complained to CCK and nothing has come out it. What are we paying CCK for I wonder if they can't even safe guard the interests of their stakeholders?
I hate to bring this up but I'm left no options, my background in
business has been in the United States and as we may all be able to attest to, they're very advanced when it comes to communications....but this is not because the government incubates some Telcos and turns the face away on the small players....NO! NO! this is simply because they have a government that believes ideas come BIG and SMALL and the environment they create is one that suits all participants regardless of the amount of Taxes
Mwaniki, I am following up on your matter and shall revert within the shortest time possible. Best regards, Christopher Wambua Ag. Manager/Publicity and Media Relations Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448, NAIROBI 00800 KENYA -----Original Message----- From: kictanet-bounces+wambua=cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua=cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Mwaniki George Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 1:07 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Interconnection to Other Telcos Thanks Bw. PS. I truly hope the regulator will do their job. Best Regards, Mwaniki Njoroge Sent from my iPhone On Apr 2, 2012, at 1:22 PM, bitange@jambo.co.ke wrote: there listen this they pay
to the Govt.
It's a great idea for this Goventment to encourage growth in the ICT sector but if field unto which the game is played at is not even, then a lot of those great ideas that come from the small and agile companies.
Dr. PS I have had a chat with you on this matter one on one in your office but I cat tell you that even I did all you recommended, nothing has happened. So your comment to the general public on this matter would be very much appreciated.
Mwaniki Njoroge, CEO, EDF mwaniki@edf.co.ke www.edf.co.ke www.yealink.com
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bitange＠jambo.co.ke -
Brian Munyao Longwe -
Mwaniki George -
Mwaniki Njoroge
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Wambua, Christopher