Interesting Internet Anti-shutdown policy draft floated at AFRINIC PDWG
An interesting policy on anti-Internet shutdown which the authors think is "Draconian" in nature has been floated at the AFRINIC Policy Development Working Group. The draft policy says 13.0 Internet shutdown order by governments An internet shutdown is deemed to have occurred when it can be proved that there was an attempt, failed or successful, to restrict access to the internet to a segment of the population irrespective of the provider or access medium that they utilize. 13.1 In the event of an internet shutdown performed at the order of a government that is either total or partial: a) For a period of 12 months following the end of the shutdown – AFRINIC will allocate no resources to the government of the countryThis also applies to all government owned entities and entities that have direct provable relationships with said government. b) In the event of a transfer policy existing, AFRINIC shall not assist or participate in any transfers to any of the entities above. c) All sub-allocations of space within said country involving the referred to entities shall equally cease for a period of 12 months. Published in this link https://afrinic.net/en/community/policy-development/policy-proposals/2061-an... Regards ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya twitter.com/lordmwesh
Interesting. Let's pose for a minute to think this through. What does it mean to say a country like Kenya? 1. No government services? 2. What happens if say CA is denied such resources? Any effect on Telcom services? Or monitoring of such services? 3. How about KeNIC? Will this affect KeNIC because maybe someone can argue there's ia Government stake in KeNIC? 4. National Security? 5. Signet? Very interesting conversation. Thanks for sharing Kivuva. Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle Sent from my iPad
On 11 Apr 2017, at 10:33 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
An interesting policy on anti-Internet shutdown which the authors think is "Draconian" in nature has been floated at the AFRINIC Policy Development Working Group.
The draft policy says
13.0 Internet shutdown order by governments
An internet shutdown is deemed to have occurred when it can be proved that there was an attempt, failed or successful, to restrict access to the internet to a segment of the population irrespective of the provider or access medium that they utilize.
13.1 In the event of an internet shutdown performed at the order of a government that is either total or partial:
a) For a period of 12 months following the end of the shutdown – AFRINIC will allocate no resources to the government of the countryThis also applies to all government owned entities and entities that have direct provable relationships with said government. b) In the event of a transfer policy existing, AFRINIC shall not assist or participate in any transfers to any of the entities above. c) All sub-allocations of space within said country involving the referred to entities shall equally cease for a period of 12 months.
Published in this link
https://afrinic.net/en/community/policy-development/policy-proposals/2061-an...
Regards ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya twitter.com/lordmwesh
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The last part is equally important : 13.2 In the event of a government performing 3 or more such shutdowns in a period of 10 years – all resources to the aforementioned entities shall be revoked and no allocations to said entities shall occur for a period of 5 years. On Apr 11, 2017 11:27 PM, "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Interesting.
Let's pose for a minute to think this through.
What does it mean to say a country like Kenya?
1. No government services? 2. What happens if say CA is denied such resources? Any effect on Telcom services? Or monitoring of such services? 3. How about KeNIC? Will this affect KeNIC because maybe someone can argue there's ia Government stake in KeNIC? 4. National Security? 5. Signet?
Very interesting conversation.
Thanks for sharing Kivuva.
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On 11 Apr 2017, at 10:33 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
An interesting policy on anti-Internet shutdown which the authors think is "Draconian" in nature has been floated at the AFRINIC Policy Development Working Group.
The draft policy says
13.0 Internet shutdown order by governments
An internet shutdown is deemed to have occurred when it can be proved that there was an attempt, failed or successful, to restrict access to the internet to a segment of the population irrespective of the provider or access medium that they utilize.
13.1 In the event of an internet shutdown performed at the order of a government that is either total or partial:
a) For a period of 12 months following the end of the shutdown – AFRINIC will allocate no resources to the government of the countryThis also applies to all government owned entities and entities that have direct provable relationships with said government. b) In the event of a transfer policy existing, AFRINIC shall not assist or participate in any transfers to any of the entities above. c) All sub-allocations of space within said country involving the referred to entities shall equally cease for a period of 12 months.
Published in this link
https://afrinic.net/en/community/policy-development/ policy-proposals/2061-anti-shutdown-01
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Hi Kivuva, I would like to know what the Afrinic Government working group has to say about this proposal. Have they endorsed it? On Apr 12, 2017 1:33 AM, "Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
The last part is equally important :
13.2 In the event of a government performing 3 or more such shutdowns in a period of 10 years – all resources to the aforementioned entities shall be revoked and no allocations to said entities shall occur for a period of 5 years. On Apr 11, 2017 11:27 PM, "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Interesting.
Let's pose for a minute to think this through.
What does it mean to say a country like Kenya?
1. No government services? 2. What happens if say CA is denied such resources? Any effect on Telcom services? Or monitoring of such services? 3. How about KeNIC? Will this affect KeNIC because maybe someone can argue there's ia Government stake in KeNIC? 4. National Security? 5. Signet?
Very interesting conversation.
Thanks for sharing Kivuva.
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On 11 Apr 2017, at 10:33 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
An interesting policy on anti-Internet shutdown which the authors think is "Draconian" in nature has been floated at the AFRINIC Policy Development Working Group.
The draft policy says
13.0 Internet shutdown order by governments
An internet shutdown is deemed to have occurred when it can be proved that there was an attempt, failed or successful, to restrict access to the internet to a segment of the population irrespective of the provider or access medium that they utilize.
13.1 In the event of an internet shutdown performed at the order of a government that is either total or partial:
a) For a period of 12 months following the end of the shutdown – AFRINIC will allocate no resources to the government of the countryThis also applies to all government owned entities and entities that have direct provable relationships with said government. b) In the event of a transfer policy existing, AFRINIC shall not assist or participate in any transfers to any of the entities above. c) All sub-allocations of space within said country involving the referred to entities shall equally cease for a period of 12 months.
Published in this link
https://afrinic.net/en/community/policy-development/policy- proposals/2061-anti-shutdown-01
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Hi Barack, No, they haven't even had time to discuss it, so no endorsement could be possible. If the AFGWG takes this up, they could in theory issue a statement, but they have no role in policy making (as a group), only as individuals representing themselves or their employer. I would think it unlikely they would ever endorse this idea either...but I could be wrong ;-) regards, McTim On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 10:46 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Kivuva,
I would like to know what the Afrinic Government working group has to say about this proposal. Have they endorsed it?
On Apr 12, 2017 1:33 AM, "Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
The last part is equally important :
13.2 In the event of a government performing 3 or more such shutdowns in a period of 10 years – all resources to the aforementioned entities shall be revoked and no allocations to said entities shall occur for a period of 5 years.
On Apr 11, 2017 11:27 PM, "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Interesting.
Let's pose for a minute to think this through.
What does it mean to say a country like Kenya?
1. No government services? 2. What happens if say CA is denied such resources? Any effect on Telcom services? Or monitoring of such services? 3. How about KeNIC? Will this affect KeNIC because maybe someone can argue there's ia Government stake in KeNIC? 4. National Security? 5. Signet?
Very interesting conversation.
Thanks for sharing Kivuva.
Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
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On 11 Apr 2017, at 10:33 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
An interesting policy on anti-Internet shutdown which the authors think is "Draconian" in nature has been floated at the AFRINIC Policy Development Working Group.
The draft policy says
13.0 Internet shutdown order by governments
An internet shutdown is deemed to have occurred when it can be proved that there was an attempt, failed or successful, to restrict access to the internet to a segment of the population irrespective of the provider or access medium that they utilize.
13.1 In the event of an internet shutdown performed at the order of a government that is either total or partial:
a) For a period of 12 months following the end of the shutdown – AFRINIC will allocate no resources to the government of the countryThis also applies to all government owned entities and entities that have direct provable relationships with said government. b) In the event of a transfer policy existing, AFRINIC shall not assist or participate in any transfers to any of the entities above. c) All sub-allocations of space within said country involving the referred to entities shall equally cease for a period of 12 months.
Published in this link
https://afrinic.net/en/community/policy-development/policy-proposals/2061-an...
Regards ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya twitter.com/lordmwesh
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Thanks McTim. That actually captures it, that policy making is through concensus by the community. All stakeholders are part of the community. It's also important to note that AFRINIC as an organization issued a statement on Internet shutdowns https://afrinic.net/en/library/news/2057-keep-the-internet-open-to-all On Apr 12, 2017 7:01 AM, "McTim via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Barack,
No, they haven't even had time to discuss it, so no endorsement could be possible.
If the AFGWG takes this up, they could in theory issue a statement, but they have no role in policy making (as a group), only as individuals representing themselves or their employer.
I would think it unlikely they would ever endorse this idea either...but I could be wrong ;-)
regards,
McTim
Hi Kivuva,
I would like to know what the Afrinic Government working group has to say about this proposal. Have they endorsed it?
On Apr 12, 2017 1:33 AM, "Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
The last part is equally important :
13.2 In the event of a government performing 3 or more such shutdowns
in a
period of 10 years – all resources to the aforementioned entities shall be revoked and no allocations to said entities shall occur for a period of 5 years.
On Apr 11, 2017 11:27 PM, "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Interesting.
Let's pose for a minute to think this through.
What does it mean to say a country like Kenya?
1. No government services? 2. What happens if say CA is denied such resources? Any effect on
Telcom
services? Or monitoring of such services? 3. How about KeNIC? Will this affect KeNIC because maybe someone can argue there's ia Government stake in KeNIC? 4. National Security? 5. Signet?
Very interesting conversation.
Thanks for sharing Kivuva.
Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
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On 11 Apr 2017, at 10:33 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
An interesting policy on anti-Internet shutdown which the authors think is "Draconian" in nature has been floated at the AFRINIC Policy Development Working Group.
The draft policy says
13.0 Internet shutdown order by governments
An internet shutdown is deemed to have occurred when it can be proved that there was an attempt, failed or successful, to restrict access to the internet to a segment of the population irrespective of the provider or access medium that they utilize.
13.1 In the event of an internet shutdown performed at the order of a government that is either total or partial:
a) For a period of 12 months following the end of the shutdown – AFRINIC will allocate no resources to the government of the countryThis also applies to all government owned entities and entities that have direct provable relationships with said government. b) In the event of a transfer policy existing, AFRINIC shall not assist or participate in any transfers to any of the entities above. c) All sub-allocations of space within said country involving the referred to entities shall equally cease for a period of 12 months.
Published in this link
On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 10:46 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: policy-proposals/2061-anti-shutdown-01
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Morning, The implications mentioned in the draft policy are severe considering that organisations like KeNIC may be affected, this would be a major setback for the growth/ uptake of the .Ke domain name space. On the flip side though, it can be seen as a major step to keep Governments in check to avoid shutdowns like those seen in Cameroon so that before they consider shutting down the internet they have an idea of the effects it may have directly on government services that are available online. It would be ironical for the government to push for digital growth, use of ICT to better lives and improve services and not see the implications of shutting down access to the internet. Kind regards, Brian M. Nyali. brian@kenic.or.ke From: "Ali Hussein via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> To: "Brian Nyali" <brian@kenic.or.ke> Cc: "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke> Sent: Tuesday, 11 April, 2017 23:27:35 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Interesting Internet Anti-shutdown policy draft floated at AFRINIC PDWG Interesting. Let's pose for a minute to think this through. What does it mean to say a country like Kenya? 1. No government services? 2. What happens if say CA is denied such resources? Any effect on Telcom services? Or monitoring of such services? 3. How about KeNIC? Will this affect KeNIC because maybe someone can argue there's ia Government stake in KeNIC? 4. National Security? 5. Signet? Very interesting conversation. Thanks for sharing Kivuva. Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle Sent from my iPad On 11 Apr 2017, at 10:33 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote: An interesting policy on anti-Internet shutdown which the authors think is "Draconian" in nature has been floated at the AFRINIC Policy Development Working Group. The draft policy says 13.0 Internet shutdown order by governments An internet shutdown is deemed to have occurred when it can be proved that there was an attempt, failed or successful, to restrict access to the internet to a segment of the population irrespective of the provider or access medium that they utilize. 13.1 In the event of an internet shutdown performed at the order of a government that is either total or partial: a) For a period of 12 months following the end of the shutdown – AFRINIC will allocate no resources to the government of the countryThis also applies to all government owned entities and entities that have direct provable relationships with said government. b) In the event of a transfer policy existing, AFRINIC shall not assist or participate in any transfers to any of the entities above. c) All sub-allocations of space within said country involving the referred to entities shall equally cease for a period of 12 months. Published in this link https://afrinic.net/en/community/policy-development/policy-proposals/2061-an... Regards ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya twitter.com/lordmwesh _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/ Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/ Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/brian%40kenic.or.ke The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
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