Battle for African Internet Users Sparks fears
Listers Interesting discussion going on about zero rating certain services within a walled Facebook/Google garden. I think some telcos are running campaigns where after your internet bundles are exhausted you can still use Facebook or Google Apps. For more:- http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/24/us-africa-internet-idUSKBN0MK10F20... It's easy to applaud search measures to offer 'free' connectivity. However some markets have already outlawed such practices as anti-competitive and designed to lure users to certain services at the detriment of others who don't have the deep pockets of the Multi-Nationals. It's all about eyeballs. which drive advertising. What's the CA's position on this practice? *Ali Hussein* Tel: +254 770 906375/ 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> Blog: www.alyhussein.com Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.
Thanks Ali. CA has no position on this. Although I am not authorised to speak on their behalf :) Look, this is a classical Net Neutrality violation. "Treating all traffic equally". What happens to competitors of Facebook, Twitter, Wikipedia ? This is a sure way of killing competition. Airtel has a service Where you can access Facebook for free. Same as Orange with Wikipedia some years back. The data carrier is paid by the content provider to give preferential treatment to their traffic. Now, if I'm seated in one of the innovation hubs in Kenya, say C4DLAB, and I have a new startup competing in the same space as Twitter or Facebook, how will I compete in such a skewed environment? On Wednesday, 25 March 2015, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
Interesting discussion going on about zero rating certain services within a walled Facebook/Google garden. I think some telcos are running campaigns where after your internet bundles are exhausted you can still use Facebook or Google Apps.
For more:-
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/24/us-africa-internet-idUSKBN0MK10F20...
It's easy to applaud search measures to offer 'free' connectivity. However some markets have already outlawed such practices as anti-competitive and designed to lure users to certain services at the detriment of others who don't have the deep pockets of the Multi-Nationals.
It's all about eyeballs. which drive advertising.
What's the CA's position on this practice?
*Ali Hussein*
Tel: +254 770 906375/ 713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
Blog: www.alyhussein.com
Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.
-- ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya "There are some men who lift the age they inhabit, till all men walk on higher ground in that lifetime." - Maxwell Anderson
Mwendwa Exactly. Ali Hussein +254 770 906375 / 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi Sent from my iPad
On Mar 25, 2015, at 1:59 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
Thanks Ali. CA has no position on this. Although I am not authorised to speak on their behalf :)
Look, this is a classical Net Neutrality violation. "Treating all traffic equally". What happens to competitors of Facebook, Twitter, Wikipedia ? This is a sure way of killing competition. Airtel has a service Where you can access Facebook for free. Same as Orange with Wikipedia some years back. The data carrier is paid by the content provider to give preferential treatment to their traffic.
Now, if I'm seated in one of the innovation hubs in Kenya, say C4DLAB, and I have a new startup competing in the same space as Twitter or Facebook, how will I compete in such a skewed environment?
On Wednesday, 25 March 2015, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Listers
Interesting discussion going on about zero rating certain services within a walled Facebook/Google garden. I think some telcos are running campaigns where after your internet bundles are exhausted you can still use Facebook or Google Apps.
For more:-
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/24/us-africa-internet-idUSKBN0MK10F20...
It's easy to applaud search measures to offer 'free' connectivity. However some markets have already outlawed such practices as anti-competitive and designed to lure users to certain services at the detriment of others who don't have the deep pockets of the Multi-Nationals.
It's all about eyeballs. which drive advertising.
What's the CA's position on this practice?
Ali Hussein
Tel: +254 770 906375/ 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com
Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.
-- ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya
"There are some men who lift the age they inhabit, till all men walk on higher ground in that lifetime." - Maxwell Anderson
It's interesting to note that Google, an organisation supporting net neutrality in the US is not too concerned about the same in Africa! It appears to me that they support it only when it suits their needs and not because they think it is a good idea! On 25 March 2015 at 08:06, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
Interesting discussion going on about zero rating certain services within a walled Facebook/Google garden. I think some telcos are running campaigns where after your internet bundles are exhausted you can still use Facebook or Google Apps.
For more:-
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/24/us-africa-internet-idUSKBN0MK10F20...
It's easy to applaud search measures to offer 'free' connectivity. However some markets have already outlawed such practices as anti-competitive and designed to lure users to certain services at the detriment of others who don't have the deep pockets of the Multi-Nationals.
It's all about eyeballs. which drive advertising.
What's the CA's position on this practice?
*Ali Hussein*
Tel: +254 770 906375/ 713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
Blog: www.alyhussein.com
Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.
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If you're being offered something for free, chances are that you are the product. The problem is that we don't have effective laws and regulations touching on net neutrality. How can we help he Kenyan Mark Zuckerberg? On Mar 26, 2015 10:26 AM, "Mouz via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
It's interesting to note that Google, an organisation supporting net neutrality in the US is not too concerned about the same in Africa! It appears to me that they support it only when it suits their needs and not because they think it is a good idea!
On 25 March 2015 at 08:06, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
Interesting discussion going on about zero rating certain services within a walled Facebook/Google garden. I think some telcos are running campaigns where after your internet bundles are exhausted you can still use Facebook or Google Apps.
For more:-
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/24/us-africa-internet-idUSKBN0MK10F20...
It's easy to applaud search measures to offer 'free' connectivity. However some markets have already outlawed such practices as anti-competitive and designed to lure users to certain services at the detriment of others who don't have the deep pockets of the Multi-Nationals.
It's all about eyeballs. which drive advertising.
What's the CA's position on this practice?
*Ali Hussein*
Tel: +254 770 906375/ 713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
Blog: www.alyhussein.com
Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.
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Liz We don't even have a policy direction.. Ali Hussein +254 770 906375 / 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi Sent from my iPad
On Mar 28, 2015, at 8:12 AM, Liz Orembo via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
If you're being offered something for free, chances are that you are the product.
The problem is that we don't have effective laws and regulations touching on net neutrality.
How can we help he Kenyan Mark Zuckerberg?
On Mar 26, 2015 10:26 AM, "Mouz via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: It's interesting to note that Google, an organisation supporting net neutrality in the US is not too concerned about the same in Africa! It appears to me that they support it only when it suits their needs and not because they think it is a good idea!
On 25 March 2015 at 08:06, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Listers
Interesting discussion going on about zero rating certain services within a walled Facebook/Google garden. I think some telcos are running campaigns where after your internet bundles are exhausted you can still use Facebook or Google Apps.
For more:-
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/24/us-africa-internet-idUSKBN0MK10F20...
It's easy to applaud search measures to offer 'free' connectivity. However some markets have already outlawed such practices as anti-competitive and designed to lure users to certain services at the detriment of others who don't have the deep pockets of the Multi-Nationals.
It's all about eyeballs. which drive advertising.
What's the CA's position on this practice?
Ali Hussein
Tel: +254 770 906375/ 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com
Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.
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