Smart Infrastructure: TransformAfrica2013
Dear Listers, Allow me to refer you back to the just concluded Summit in Kigali - Transform Africa2013, I am sure most of you followed keenly, physically and remotely. One of the very many topics for panel discussions was coined as: "*Developing Smart infrastructure: Developing Ubiquitous, Secure and Sustainable ICT Infrastructure"* I must say the discussions were led by eminent panelists! But it is interesting to note that the critical resources of the Internet (Domains, IP - Addresses, AS numbers) continue to elude many people as part of the entire ICT infrastructure. Not many people gave this a thought, yet Africa is lagging behind in the uptake of some of these resources. It is widely assumed that Infrastructure is limited to Broadband Infrastructure! We need to step up this awareness as and industry. my 2 cents Bob Ochieng. ICANN.
To that point, AfriNIC is the last group with IPv4 addresses to give out in the world, yet getting them from local ISPs is extremely difficult. However, I don't think this is an issue of providers being intentionally obstructionist but rather that they don't understand their responsibilities to redistribute IPs assigned to them by the regional network information centers. Another problem is bureaucratic. Getting sufficient paperwork to form a Kenyan corporation in order to get IPs directly from AfriNIC is very difficult. Setting up a US Corporation costs about $300 (or less if you do it in a more simplistic way) and takes about 3 days and can be done entirely online. Apparently setting up a Rwandan corporation is even easier. Setting up a Kenyan corporation takes about 2-6 weeks and costs about $800 and if you're founding a subsidiary/branch, requires you to follow regulations that don't even make sense... -Adam -- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 1:03 AM, Bob Omondi <omondibob@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Listers,
Allow me to refer you back to the just concluded Summit in Kigali - Transform Africa2013, I am sure most of you followed keenly, physically and remotely.
One of the very many topics for panel discussions was coined as: "*Developing Smart infrastructure: Developing Ubiquitous, Secure and Sustainable ICT Infrastructure"* I must say the discussions were led by eminent panelists!
But it is interesting to note that the critical resources of the Internet (Domains, IP - Addresses, AS numbers) continue to elude many people as part of the entire ICT infrastructure. Not many people gave this a thought, yet Africa is lagging behind in the uptake of some of these resources. It is widely assumed that Infrastructure is limited to Broadband Infrastructure! We need to step up this awareness as and industry.
my 2 cents
Bob Ochieng. ICANN.
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Adam Good points you raise and something that the Government must get right. We can't continue trumpeting ourselves about how savvy and how Kenya is the ICT Hub if we don't sweat the small stuff.. About time Ministries worked closely together and make this country hum. Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "Kujikwaa si kuanguka, bali ni kwenda mbele" (To stumble is not to fall but a sign of going forward) - Swahili Proverb Sent from my iPad
On Nov 6, 2013, at 6:15 AM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
To that point, AfriNIC is the last group with IPv4 addresses to give out in the world, yet getting them from local ISPs is extremely difficult.
However, I don't think this is an issue of providers being intentionally obstructionist but rather that they don't understand their responsibilities to redistribute IPs assigned to them by the regional network information centers.
Another problem is bureaucratic. Getting sufficient paperwork to form a Kenyan corporation in order to get IPs directly from AfriNIC is very difficult.
Setting up a US Corporation costs about $300 (or less if you do it in a more simplistic way) and takes about 3 days and can be done entirely online. Apparently setting up a Rwandan corporation is even easier. Setting up a Kenyan corporation takes about 2-6 weeks and costs about $800 and if you're founding a subsidiary/branch, requires you to follow regulations that don't even make sense...
-Adam
-- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 1:03 AM, Bob Omondi <omondibob@gmail.com> wrote: Dear Listers,
Allow me to refer you back to the just concluded Summit in Kigali - Transform Africa2013, I am sure most of you followed keenly, physically and remotely.
One of the very many topics for panel discussions was coined as: "Developing Smart infrastructure: Developing Ubiquitous, Secure and Sustainable ICT Infrastructure" I must say the discussions were led by eminent panelists!
But it is interesting to note that the critical resources of the Internet (Domains, IP - Addresses, AS numbers) continue to elude many people as part of the entire ICT infrastructure. Not many people gave this a thought, yet Africa is lagging behind in the uptake of some of these resources. It is widely assumed that Infrastructure is limited to Broadband Infrastructure! We need to step up this awareness as and industry.
my 2 cents
Bob Ochieng. ICANN.
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HI Adam, On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 10:15 PM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
To that point, AfriNIC is the last group with IPv4 addresses to give out in the world, yet getting them from local ISPs is extremely difficult.
To be precise, AFRINIC will be the last RIR that will have IPs available in the future, currently, all of the RIRs still have IPs to distribute, but 2 of them are in their rationing phase because they have less than a /8.
However, I don't think this is an issue of providers being intentionally obstructionist but rather that they don't understand their responsibilities to redistribute IPs assigned to them by the regional network information centers.
Agreed.
Another problem is bureaucratic. Getting sufficient paperwork to form a Kenyan corporation in order to get IPs directly from AfriNIC is very difficult.
If you have a Kenya corporation already, you should have all the paperwork you need already.
Setting up a US Corporation costs about $300 (or less if you do it in a more simplistic way) and takes about 3 days and can be done entirely online. Apparently setting up a Rwandan corporation is even easier. Setting up a Kenyan corporation takes about 2-6 weeks and costs about $800 and if you're founding a subsidiary/branch, requires you to follow regulations that don't even make sense...
point taken. -- Cheers, McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel
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