Re: [kictanet] [isoc_ke] EU hits Google with Anti-Trust complaint
Good afternoon Tony! Your take on desktops and laptops dying, I would give them still more time around as survivors. At least you agree on the work stations. Incidentally the innovations especially the smart phone ain't so smart as its name. From practical usage point, most models cannot hold power to keep working to match the features carried and the user needs they could satisfy. In this energy conserving times most are energy inefficient. Why do we allow them into our markets? To suck up energy that would be used up elsewhere. On the phone front, the basic phone 'mulika mwizi' is still the real go-to-survivor phone. Blessed day. Regards/WangariOn Apr 22, 2016 12:45, Tony White via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Time will tell - at least Ubuntu is now shipping on phones and tablets (and desktops and laptops) ...And Ubuntu is an already established OS - FirefoxOS was a new, 'unknown' OS - it was just not the right approach.
Interestingly, with the right OS, I should be able to hang a monitor, keyboard and mouse off my 'phone' and have a desktop 100 times more powerful than the Compaq pentium I bought for 150,000 bob almost 20 years ago, for a tenth the price!
We are in a transition period - the desktop/laptop will be dead in a couple of years, except for 'power' workstations, which will persist a bit longer.
On 22/04/2016, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy <ultimateprogramer@gmail.com> wrote:
Tony that story is simmilar to FirefoxOS. What happened to them? On 22 Apr 2016 11:10 am, "Tony White via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
"It is the only open platform that is out there that is easily accessible and can be tuned to work in ways many manufacturers would like it to work."
Not quite true
Ubuntu (Linux) has a version for phones - still 'beta', although two (Chinese) phone manufacturers are already shipping phones and tablets with Ubuntu installed. This is totally free and open source, with no ulterior motive behind it.
I, for one, will buy my next phone with Ubuntu - and then have consistency across all platforms - desktop, laptop, tablet, phone, and IoT devices.
Note that Android is also built on a Linux base - but with Google's proprietary 'bits' on top.
Great points Ahmed.
As I said this is definitely an interesting one to watch and one that has lessons for us in Kenya as we grapple with our own 'Dominance' issues.
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On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 8:26 AM, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
This is a tricky issue in many ways:
1. Android is an appealing product to put onto a Smart Phone
On 22/04/2016, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: platform.
Its not only designed for a Smart Phone, its designed also for TV boxes, and other appliances. It is the only open platform that is out there that is easily accessible and can be tuned to work in ways many manufacturers would like it to work. 2. Google is not doing this for free. Its doing this because it wants to roll out its services to the manufacturer who may want to receive its "free" product to kick start their operations. 3. Rival platforms face some problems Android has solved: Either it being running on costly hardware (iPhone's iOS) or it being not lucrative as an option to drive hardware sales (Windows, Blackberry, etc). 4. Infact the platforms like iOS, Blackberry, Windows have the same issues: They either push iCloud (Apple), BlackBerry services or Bing (Microsoft) as bundled products. 5. Various open attempts have been developed but adoption has brought them down - a good example of FirefoxOS by Mozilla. FirefoxOS would have solved this exact sa
Hi Wangari, "Incidentally the innovations especially the smart phone ain't so smart as its name. From practical usage point, most models cannot hold power to keep working to match the features carried and the user needs they could satisfy." Partially agreed - although if 'tethered' to a desk, with additional peripherals, then it's OK "In this energy conserving times most are energy inefficient. Why do we allow them into our markets? To suck up energy that would be used up elsewhere." Totally disagree! - my 'phone' gives me 8 hours on a 3Ah battery (which the 'marketing department' describes as 3000mAh - big numbers look good!) - which equates to about 12 Watt-hours or 0.012KWh - at 20 bob per KWh, is 24 cents. On the other hand - my laptop consumes 50 Watts - which for the same 8 hours is 400 Watt-hours or 0.4 KWh - at 20 bob per KWh, is 8 bob Summarising - the phone costs 3 cents per hour, and the laptop 1 bob per hour. Don't let's even get into the power usage of all the desktops! "On the phone front, the basic phone 'mulika mwizi' is still the real go-to-survivor phone." Agreed - but that is 'just a phone' - I'm talking about the evolution of computing devices (which 'happen' to also include traditional telephone capability) Exciting times we are in, whatever the outcome :) Cheers On 22/04/2016, Wangari Kabiru via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Good afternoon Tony!
Your take on desktops and laptops dying, I would give them still more time around as survivors. At least you agree on the work stations.
Incidentally the innovations especially the smart phone ain't so smart as its name. From practical usage point, most models cannot hold power to keep working to match the features carried and the user needs they could satisfy.
In this energy conserving times most are energy inefficient. Why do we allow them into our markets? To suck up energy that would be used up elsewhere.
On the phone front, the basic phone 'mulika mwizi' is still the real go-to-survivor phone.
Blessed day.
Regards/WangariOn Apr 22, 2016 12:45, Tony White via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Time will tell - at least Ubuntu is now shipping on phones and tablets (and desktops and laptops) ...And Ubuntu is an already established OS - FirefoxOS was a new, 'unknown' OS - it was just not the right approach.
Interestingly, with the right OS, I should be able to hang a monitor, keyboard and mouse off my 'phone' and have a desktop 100 times more powerful than the Compaq pentium I bought for 150,000 bob almost 20 years ago, for a tenth the price!
We are in a transition period - the desktop/laptop will be dead in a couple of years, except for 'power' workstations, which will persist a bit longer.
On 22/04/2016, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy <ultimateprogramer@gmail.com> wrote:
Tony that story is simmilar to FirefoxOS. What happened to them? On 22 Apr 2016 11:10 am, "Tony White via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
"It is the only open platform that is out there that is easily accessible and can be tuned to work in ways many manufacturers would like it to work."
Not quite true
Ubuntu (Linux) has a version for phones - still 'beta', although two (Chinese) phone manufacturers are already shipping phones and tablets with Ubuntu installed. This is totally free and open source, with no ulterior motive behind it.
I, for one, will buy my next phone with Ubuntu - and then have consistency across all platforms - desktop, laptop, tablet, phone, and IoT devices.
Note that Android is also built on a Linux base - but with Google's proprietary 'bits' on top.
Great points Ahmed.
As I said this is definitely an interesting one to watch and one that has lessons for us in Kenya as we grapple with our own 'Dominance' issues.
*Ali Hussein*
*Principal*
*Hussein & Associates*
Tel: +254 713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.
On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 8:26 AM, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
This is a tricky issue in many ways:
1. Android is an appealing product to put onto a Smart Phone
On 22/04/2016, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: platform.
Its not only designed for a Smart Phone, its designed also for TV boxes, and other appliances. It is the only open platform that is out there that is easily accessible and can be tuned to work in ways many manufacturers would like it to work. 2. Google is not doing this for free. Its doing this because it wants to roll out its services to the manufacturer who may want to receive its "free" product to kick start their operations. 3. Rival platforms face some problems Android has solved: Either it being running on costly hardware (iPhone's iOS) or it being not lucrative as an option to drive hardware sales (Windows, Blackberry, etc). 4. Infact the platforms like iOS, Blackberry, Windows have the same issues: They either push iCloud (Apple), BlackBerry services or Bing (Microsoft) as bundled products. 5. Various open attempts have been developed but adoption has brought them down - a good example of FirefoxOS by Mozilla. FirefoxOS would have solved this exact sa
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