Re: [kictanet] Telcos regulator seeks to monitor WhatsApp + Plenipot Issues (Kenya's Position)
Greetings Mr. Wambua, Many thanks for your prompt and elaborate responses as always. Permit me to behave like a mosquito and ask another question before we put the matter to rest. I was chatting with a friend who passed by the Plenipot in Dubai. I understand African Governments are unanimous about the need to regulate the Internet and are making arrangements to conduct similar studies, is this a correct position?. What is Kenya's position on Internet Regulation once again has it changed? Congratulations to the Kenyan delegation for bagging another chance to seat on the ITU Council. Best Regards On 11/2/18, Wambua, Christopher via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
For purposes of clarity on the objects of the tender in question, I wish to refer listers to the public tender document which is available on CA’s website at https://ca.go.ke/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Consultancy-Services-For-The-Stu...
In brief, the Authority, under its strategic objective of enabling widespread deployment of infrastructure and services through promotion of new and emerging technologies, plans to undertake a study to determine the regulatory mechanisms that can be employed to cater for new and emerging areas with specific focus on over the top services. The consultant shall be expected to propose the regulatory approach that the Authority can take in respect to OTTs. CA takes this opportunity to invite listers who meet the requirements set out in the tender documents to submit their bids by 14th November 2018.
CA wishes to assure listers that we have not interest whatsoever in snooping into your WhatsApp conversations as that would be against the spirit and letter of the constitution. We have however noted that the headlines on the articles on this tender are misleading, and the Authority is taking up this matter with the respective editors.
I hope this clarification puts this matter to rest.
Regards
Christopher Wambua
Ag. Director/Consumer & Public Affairs | Consumer and Public Affairs
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Tel: +254 20 4242000/284 Office Mobile: +254 730 042284/ +254 730172284
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From: kictanet <kictanet-bounces+wambua=ca.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua=ca.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> on behalf of KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Reply-To: KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Date: Friday, 2 November 2018 at 05:07 To: Christopher Wambua <wambua@ca.go.ke<mailto:wambua@ca.go.ke>> Cc: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Telcos regulator seeks to monitor WhatsApp
@GG
Thanks for sharing. I’m curious as to what the world is coming to. Everyone wants to snoop and regulate. Can the CA tell us what’s the major value proposition to increasing snooping on us?
Regulators need to spend more time enabling the sector they are supposed to grow and the CA has really been progressive in many ways. Once in a while though they try to go back to the bad old KANU days. The onus is on us to remind them that Kenyans shut that door kitambo sana.
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Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
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On 1 Nov 2018, at 10:57 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote:
Kenya is considering regulating online services such as WhatsApp and Skype in a radical move that could force the internet-based service providers to share data with the government.
The Communications Authority of Kenya (CA) is in search of a consultant to study and determine how the so-called over-the-top services (OTTS) operated by groups such as Facebook, which runs WhatsApp, and Skype owner Microsoft, could be regulated.
Read on: https://www.nation.co.ke/business/Telcos-regulator-seeks-to-monitor-WhatsApp...
Best regards
Githaiga, Grace
Co-Convenor Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) Twitter:@ggithaiga Tel: 254722701495 Skype: gracegithaiga Alternate email: ggithaiga@hotmail.com<mailto:ggithaiga@hotmail.com> Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gracegithaiga www.kictanet.or.ke<http://www.kictanet.or.ke>
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Barrack Good to hear from you. Am not in Dubai, but will follow up with the delegation there and revert. Wambua Sent from my iPhone
On 5 Nov 2018, at 19:58, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
Greetings Mr. Wambua,
Many thanks for your prompt and elaborate responses as always. Permit me to behave like a mosquito and ask another question before we put the matter to rest. I was chatting with a friend who passed by the Plenipot in Dubai. I understand African Governments are unanimous about the need to regulate the Internet and are making arrangements to conduct similar studies, is this a correct position?. What is Kenya's position on Internet Regulation once again has it changed?
Congratulations to the Kenyan delegation for bagging another chance to seat on the ITU Council.
Best Regards
On 11/2/18, Wambua, Christopher via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
For purposes of clarity on the objects of the tender in question, I wish to refer listers to the public tender document which is available on CA’s website at https://ca.go.ke/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Consultancy-Services-For-The-Stu...
In brief, the Authority, under its strategic objective of enabling widespread deployment of infrastructure and services through promotion of new and emerging technologies, plans to undertake a study to determine the regulatory mechanisms that can be employed to cater for new and emerging areas with specific focus on over the top services. The consultant shall be expected to propose the regulatory approach that the Authority can take in respect to OTTs. CA takes this opportunity to invite listers who meet the requirements set out in the tender documents to submit their bids by 14th November 2018.
CA wishes to assure listers that we have not interest whatsoever in snooping into your WhatsApp conversations as that would be against the spirit and letter of the constitution. We have however noted that the headlines on the articles on this tender are misleading, and the Authority is taking up this matter with the respective editors.
I hope this clarification puts this matter to rest.
Regards
Christopher Wambua
Ag. Director/Consumer & Public Affairs | Consumer and Public Affairs
[Description: Description: http://digital.scanad.com/casignature/img/logo.png]
Tel: +254 20 4242000/284 Office Mobile: +254 730 042284/ +254 730172284
P.O. Box 14448 Nairobi 00800
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From: kictanet <kictanet-bounces+wambua=ca.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua=ca.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> on behalf of KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Reply-To: KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Date: Friday, 2 November 2018 at 05:07 To: Christopher Wambua <wambua@ca.go.ke<mailto:wambua@ca.go.ke>> Cc: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Telcos regulator seeks to monitor WhatsApp
@GG
Thanks for sharing. I’m curious as to what the world is coming to. Everyone wants to snoop and regulate. Can the CA tell us what’s the major value proposition to increasing snooping on us?
Regulators need to spend more time enabling the sector they are supposed to grow and the CA has really been progressive in many ways. Once in a while though they try to go back to the bad old KANU days. The onus is on us to remind them that Kenyans shut that door kitambo sana.
Ali Hussein Principal AHK & Associates +254 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle
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On 1 Nov 2018, at 10:57 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote:
Kenya is considering regulating online services such as WhatsApp and Skype in a radical move that could force the internet-based service providers to share data with the government.
The Communications Authority of Kenya (CA) is in search of a consultant to study and determine how the so-called over-the-top services (OTTS) operated by groups such as Facebook, which runs WhatsApp, and Skype owner Microsoft, could be regulated.
Read on: https://www.nation.co.ke/business/Telcos-regulator-seeks-to-monitor-WhatsApp...
Best regards
Githaiga, Grace
Co-Convenor Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) Twitter:@ggithaiga Tel: 254722701495 Skype: gracegithaiga Alternate email: ggithaiga@hotmail.com<mailto:ggithaiga@hotmail.com> Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gracegithaiga www.kictanet.or.ke<http://www.kictanet.or.ke>
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Hi Barrack, Indeed Kenya is aligned to the African Common proposals but I am not aware of any resolution that focuses on the regulation of the internet. Could you share the specific resolution that proposes to do what you are alleging, then we can respond appropriately? Regards, Rachel
On Nov 5, 2018, at 20:58, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Greetings Mr. Wambua,
Many thanks for your prompt and elaborate responses as always. Permit me to behave like a mosquito and ask another question before we put the matter to rest. I was chatting with a friend who passed by the Plenipot in Dubai. I understand African Governments are unanimous about the need to regulate the Internet and are making arrangements to conduct similar studies, is this a correct position?. What is Kenya's position on Internet Regulation once again has it changed?
Congratulations to the Kenyan delegation for bagging another chance to seat on the ITU Council.
Best Regards
On 11/2/18, Wambua, Christopher via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
For purposes of clarity on the objects of the tender in question, I wish to refer listers to the public tender document which is available on CA’s website at https://ca.go.ke/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Consultancy-Services-For-The-Stu...
In brief, the Authority, under its strategic objective of enabling widespread deployment of infrastructure and services through promotion of new and emerging technologies, plans to undertake a study to determine the regulatory mechanisms that can be employed to cater for new and emerging areas with specific focus on over the top services. The consultant shall be expected to propose the regulatory approach that the Authority can take in respect to OTTs. CA takes this opportunity to invite listers who meet the requirements set out in the tender documents to submit their bids by 14th November 2018.
CA wishes to assure listers that we have not interest whatsoever in snooping into your WhatsApp conversations as that would be against the spirit and letter of the constitution. We have however noted that the headlines on the articles on this tender are misleading, and the Authority is taking up this matter with the respective editors.
I hope this clarification puts this matter to rest.
Regards
Christopher Wambua
Ag. Director/Consumer & Public Affairs | Consumer and Public Affairs
[Description: Description: http://digital.scanad.com/casignature/img/logo.png]
Tel: +254 20 4242000/284 Office Mobile: +254 730 042284/ +254 730172284
P.O. Box 14448 Nairobi 00800
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From: kictanet <kictanet-bounces+wambua=ca.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua=ca.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> on behalf of KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Reply-To: KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Date: Friday, 2 November 2018 at 05:07 To: Christopher Wambua <wambua@ca.go.ke<mailto:wambua@ca.go.ke>> Cc: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Telcos regulator seeks to monitor WhatsApp
@GG
Thanks for sharing. I’m curious as to what the world is coming to. Everyone wants to snoop and regulate. Can the CA tell us what’s the major value proposition to increasing snooping on us?
Regulators need to spend more time enabling the sector they are supposed to grow and the CA has really been progressive in many ways. Once in a while though they try to go back to the bad old KANU days. The onus is on us to remind them that Kenyans shut that door kitambo sana.
Ali Hussein Principal AHK & Associates +254 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle
Sent from my iPad
On 1 Nov 2018, at 10:57 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote:
Kenya is considering regulating online services such as WhatsApp and Skype in a radical move that could force the internet-based service providers to share data with the government.
The Communications Authority of Kenya (CA) is in search of a consultant to study and determine how the so-called over-the-top services (OTTS) operated by groups such as Facebook, which runs WhatsApp, and Skype owner Microsoft, could be regulated.
Read on: https://www.nation.co.ke/business/Telcos-regulator-seeks-to-monitor-WhatsApp...
Best regards
Githaiga, Grace
Co-Convenor Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) Twitter:@ggithaiga Tel: 254722701495 Skype: gracegithaiga Alternate email: ggithaiga@hotmail.com<mailto:ggithaiga@hotmail.com> Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gracegithaiga www.kictanet.or.ke<http://www.kictanet.or.ke>
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Rachel How about you start by telling us what the African Common Proposals are? Regards *Ali Hussein* *Principal* *AHK & Associates* Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya. Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 2:20 PM Rachel Alwaa via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Barrack,
Indeed Kenya is aligned to the African Common proposals but I am not aware of any resolution that focuses on the regulation of the internet. Could you share the specific resolution that proposes to do what you are alleging, then we can respond appropriately?
Regards, Rachel
On Nov 5, 2018, at 20:58, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Greetings Mr. Wambua,
Many thanks for your prompt and elaborate responses as always. Permit me to behave like a mosquito and ask another question before we put the matter to rest. I was chatting with a friend who passed by the Plenipot in Dubai. I understand African Governments are unanimous about the need to regulate the Internet and are making arrangements to conduct similar studies, is this a correct position?. What is Kenya's position on Internet Regulation once again has it changed?
Congratulations to the Kenyan delegation for bagging another chance to seat on the ITU Council.
Best Regards
On 11/2/18, Wambua, Christopher via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
For purposes of clarity on the objects of the tender in question, I wish to refer listers to the public tender document which is available on CA’s website at
https://ca.go.ke/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Consultancy-Services-For-The-Stu...
In brief, the Authority, under its strategic objective of enabling widespread deployment of infrastructure and services through promotion
new and emerging technologies, plans to undertake a study to determine
regulatory mechanisms that can be employed to cater for new and emerging areas with specific focus on over the top services. The consultant shall be expected to propose the regulatory approach that the Authority can take in respect to OTTs. CA takes this opportunity to invite listers who meet
requirements set out in the tender documents to submit their bids by 14th November 2018.
CA wishes to assure listers that we have not interest whatsoever in snooping into your WhatsApp conversations as that would be against the spirit and letter of the constitution. We have however noted that the headlines on
articles on this tender are misleading, and the Authority is taking up
of the the the this
matter with the respective editors.
I hope this clarification puts this matter to rest.
Regards
Christopher Wambua
Ag. Director/Consumer & Public Affairs | Consumer and Public Affairs
[Description: Description: http://digital.scanad.com/casignature/img/logo.png]
Tel: +254 20 4242000/284 Office Mobile: +254 730 042284/ +254 730172284
P.O. Box 14448 Nairobi 00800
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From: kictanet <kictanet-bounces+wambua=ca.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto: kictanet-bounces+wambua=ca.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> on behalf of KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Reply-To: KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Date: Friday, 2 November 2018 at 05:07 To: Christopher Wambua <wambua@ca.go.ke<mailto:wambua@ca.go.ke>> Cc: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Telcos regulator seeks to monitor WhatsApp
@GG
Thanks for sharing. I’m curious as to what the world is coming to. Everyone wants to snoop and regulate. Can the CA tell us what’s the major value proposition to increasing snooping on us?
Regulators need to spend more time enabling the sector they are supposed to grow and the CA has really been progressive in many ways. Once in a while though they try to go back to the bad old KANU days. The onus is on us to remind them that Kenyans shut that door kitambo sana.
Ali Hussein Principal AHK & Associates +254 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle
Sent from my iPad
On 1 Nov 2018, at 10:57 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote:
Kenya is considering regulating online services such as WhatsApp and Skype in a radical move that could force the internet-based service providers to share data with the government.
The Communications Authority of Kenya (CA) is in search of a consultant to study and determine how the so-called over-the-top services (OTTS) operated by groups such as Facebook, which runs WhatsApp, and Skype owner Microsoft, could be regulated.
Read on:
https://www.nation.co.ke/business/Telcos-regulator-seeks-to-monitor-WhatsApp...
Best regards
Githaiga, Grace
Co-Convenor Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) Twitter:@ggithaiga Tel: 254722701495 Skype: gracegithaiga Alternate email: ggithaiga@hotmail.com<mailto:ggithaiga@hotmail.com> Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gracegithaiga www.kictanet.or.ke<http://www.kictanet.or.ke>
"Change only happens when ordinary people get involved, get engaged and
come
together to demand it. I am asking you to believe. Not in my ability to bring about change – but in yours"---Barrack Obama.
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See African Common Proposals at https://www.itu.int/md/T13-WTSA.16-C-0042/en On Tuesday, November 6, 2018, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Rachel
How about you start by telling us what the African Common Proposals are?
Regards
*Ali Hussein*
*Principal*
*AHK & Associates*
Tel: +254 713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing,
Chiromo Road, Westlands,
Nairobi, Kenya.
Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.
On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 2:20 PM Rachel Alwaa via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Barrack,
Indeed Kenya is aligned to the African Common proposals but I am not aware of any resolution that focuses on the regulation of the internet. Could you share the specific resolution that proposes to do what you are alleging, then we can respond appropriately?
Regards, Rachel
On Nov 5, 2018, at 20:58, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Greetings Mr. Wambua,
Many thanks for your prompt and elaborate responses as always. Permit me to behave like a mosquito and ask another question before we put the matter to rest. I was chatting with a friend who passed by the Plenipot in Dubai. I understand African Governments are unanimous about the need to regulate the Internet and are making arrangements to conduct similar studies, is this a correct position?. What is Kenya's position on Internet Regulation once again has it changed?
Congratulations to the Kenyan delegation for bagging another chance to seat on the ITU Council.
Best Regards
Listers
For purposes of clarity on the objects of the tender in question, I wish to refer listers to the public tender document which is available on CA’s website at https://ca.go.ke/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Consultancy- Services-For-The-Study-On-Over-The-Top-OTTs-Technologies-Services-In- Kenya.pdf
In brief, the Authority, under its strategic objective of enabling widespread deployment of infrastructure and services through promotion of new and emerging technologies, plans to undertake a study to determine
regulatory mechanisms that can be employed to cater for new and emerging areas with specific focus on over the top services. The consultant shall be expected to propose the regulatory approach that the Authority can take in respect to OTTs. CA takes this opportunity to invite listers who meet
requirements set out in the tender documents to submit their bids by 14th November 2018.
CA wishes to assure listers that we have not interest whatsoever in snooping into your WhatsApp conversations as that would be against the spirit and letter of the constitution. We have however noted that the headlines on the articles on this tender are misleading, and the Authority is taking up
matter with the respective editors.
I hope this clarification puts this matter to rest.
Regards
Christopher Wambua
Ag. Director/Consumer & Public Affairs | Consumer and Public Affairs
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Tel: +254 20 4242000/284 Office Mobile: +254 730 042284/ +254 730172284
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@GG
Thanks for sharing. I’m curious as to what the world is coming to. Everyone wants to snoop and regulate. Can the CA tell us what’s the major value proposition to increasing snooping on us?
Regulators need to spend more time enabling the sector they are supposed to grow and the CA has really been progressive in many ways. Once in a while though they try to go back to the bad old KANU days. The onus is on us to remind them that Kenyans shut that door kitambo sana.
Ali Hussein Principal AHK & Associates +254 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle
Sent from my iPad
On 1 Nov 2018, at 10:57 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote:
Kenya is considering regulating online services such as WhatsApp and Skype in a radical move that could force the internet-based service
share data with the government.
The Communications Authority of Kenya (CA) is in search of a consultant to study and determine how the so-called over-the-top services (OTTS) operated by groups such as Facebook, which runs WhatsApp, and Skype owner Microsoft, could be regulated.
Read on: https://www.nation.co.ke/business/Telcos-regulator- seeks-to-monitor-WhatsApp/996-4833020-fn9u7s/index.html
Best regards
Githaiga, Grace
Co-Convenor Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) Twitter:@ggithaiga Tel: 254722701495 Skype: gracegithaiga Alternate email: ggithaiga@hotmail.com<mailto:ggithaiga@hotmail.com> Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gracegithaiga www.kictanet.or.ke<http://www.kictanet.or.ke>
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Chief CA should synthesize that for us bana... :-) Not sure where to start boss.. Regards *Ali Hussein* *Principal* *AHK & Associates* Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya. Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 2:38 PM Wainaina Mungai via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
See African Common Proposals at https://www.itu.int/md/T13-WTSA.16-C-0042/en
On Tuesday, November 6, 2018, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Rachel
How about you start by telling us what the African Common Proposals are?
Regards
*Ali Hussein*
*Principal*
*AHK & Associates*
Tel: +254 713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing,
Chiromo Road, Westlands,
Nairobi, Kenya.
Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.
On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 2:20 PM Rachel Alwaa via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Barrack,
Indeed Kenya is aligned to the African Common proposals but I am not aware of any resolution that focuses on the regulation of the internet. Could you share the specific resolution that proposes to do what you are alleging, then we can respond appropriately?
Regards, Rachel
On Nov 5, 2018, at 20:58, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Greetings Mr. Wambua,
Many thanks for your prompt and elaborate responses as always. Permit me to behave like a mosquito and ask another question before we put the matter to rest. I was chatting with a friend who passed by the Plenipot in Dubai. I understand African Governments are unanimous about the need to regulate the Internet and are making arrangements to conduct similar studies, is this a correct position?. What is Kenya's position on Internet Regulation once again has it changed?
Congratulations to the Kenyan delegation for bagging another chance to seat on the ITU Council.
Best Regards
On 11/2/18, Wambua, Christopher via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
For purposes of clarity on the objects of the tender in question, I wish to refer listers to the public tender document which is available on CA’s website at
https://ca.go.ke/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Consultancy-Services-For-The-Stu...
In brief, the Authority, under its strategic objective of enabling widespread deployment of infrastructure and services through
new and emerging technologies, plans to undertake a study to determine the regulatory mechanisms that can be employed to cater for new and emerging areas with specific focus on over the top services. The consultant shall be expected to propose the regulatory approach that the Authority can take in respect to OTTs. CA takes this opportunity to invite listers who meet
requirements set out in the tender documents to submit their bids by 14th November 2018.
CA wishes to assure listers that we have not interest whatsoever in snooping into your WhatsApp conversations as that would be against the spirit and letter of the constitution. We have however noted that the headlines on the articles on this tender are misleading, and the Authority is taking up this matter with the respective editors.
I hope this clarification puts this matter to rest.
Regards
Christopher Wambua
Ag. Director/Consumer & Public Affairs | Consumer and Public Affairs
[Description: Description: http://digital.scanad.com/casignature/img/logo.png]
Tel: +254 20 4242000/284 Office Mobile: +254 730 042284/ +254 730172284
P.O. Box 14448 Nairobi 00800
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@GG
Thanks for sharing. I’m curious as to what the world is coming to. Everyone wants to snoop and regulate. Can the CA tell us what’s the major value proposition to increasing snooping on us?
Regulators need to spend more time enabling the sector they are supposed to grow and the CA has really been progressive in many ways. Once in a while though they try to go back to the bad old KANU days. The onus is on us to remind them that Kenyans shut that door kitambo sana.
Ali Hussein Principal AHK & Associates +254 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle
Sent from my iPad
On 1 Nov 2018, at 10:57 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote:
Kenya is considering regulating online services such as WhatsApp and Skype in a radical move that could force the internet-based service
promotion of the providers to
share data with the government.
The Communications Authority of Kenya (CA) is in search of a consultant to study and determine how the so-called over-the-top services (OTTS) operated by groups such as Facebook, which runs WhatsApp, and Skype owner Microsoft, could be regulated.
Read on:
https://www.nation.co.ke/business/Telcos-regulator-seeks-to-monitor-WhatsApp...
Best regards
Githaiga, Grace
Co-Convenor Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) Twitter:@ggithaiga Tel: 254722701495 Skype: gracegithaiga Alternate email: ggithaiga@hotmail.com<mailto:ggithaiga@hotmail.com> Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gracegithaiga www.kictanet.or.ke<http://www.kictanet.or.ke>
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and come
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Listers This might be of interest to you. Regards *Ali Hussein* *Principal* *AHK & Associates* Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya. Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 2:50 PM Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Chief
CA should synthesize that for us bana... :-) Not sure where to start boss..
Regards
*Ali Hussein*
*Principal*
*AHK & Associates*
Tel: +254 713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing,
Chiromo Road, Westlands,
Nairobi, Kenya.
Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.
On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 2:38 PM Wainaina Mungai via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
See African Common Proposals at https://www.itu.int/md/T13-WTSA.16-C-0042/en
On Tuesday, November 6, 2018, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Rachel
How about you start by telling us what the African Common Proposals are?
Regards
*Ali Hussein*
*Principal*
*AHK & Associates*
Tel: +254 713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing,
Chiromo Road, Westlands,
Nairobi, Kenya.
Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.
On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 2:20 PM Rachel Alwaa via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Barrack,
Indeed Kenya is aligned to the African Common proposals but I am not aware of any resolution that focuses on the regulation of the internet. Could you share the specific resolution that proposes to do what you are alleging, then we can respond appropriately?
Regards, Rachel
On Nov 5, 2018, at 20:58, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Greetings Mr. Wambua,
Many thanks for your prompt and elaborate responses as always. Permit me to behave like a mosquito and ask another question before we put the matter to rest. I was chatting with a friend who passed by the Plenipot in Dubai. I understand African Governments are unanimous about the need to regulate the Internet and are making arrangements to conduct similar studies, is this a correct position?. What is Kenya's position on Internet Regulation once again has it changed?
Congratulations to the Kenyan delegation for bagging another chance to seat on the ITU Council.
Best Regards
On 11/2/18, Wambua, Christopher via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
For purposes of clarity on the objects of the tender in question, I wish to refer listers to the public tender document which is available on CA’s website at
https://ca.go.ke/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Consultancy-Services-For-The-Stu...
In brief, the Authority, under its strategic objective of enabling widespread deployment of infrastructure and services through
new and emerging technologies, plans to undertake a study to determine the regulatory mechanisms that can be employed to cater for new and emerging areas with specific focus on over the top services. The consultant shall be expected to propose the regulatory approach that the Authority can take in respect to OTTs. CA takes this opportunity to invite listers who meet the requirements set out in the tender documents to submit their bids by 14th November 2018.
CA wishes to assure listers that we have not interest whatsoever in snooping into your WhatsApp conversations as that would be against the spirit and letter of the constitution. We have however noted that the headlines on the articles on this tender are misleading, and the Authority is taking up this matter with the respective editors.
I hope this clarification puts this matter to rest.
Regards
Christopher Wambua
Ag. Director/Consumer & Public Affairs | Consumer and Public Affairs
[Description: Description: http://digital.scanad.com/casignature/img/logo.png]
Tel: +254 20 4242000/284 Office Mobile: +254 730 042284/ +254 730172284
P.O. Box 14448 Nairobi 00800
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Date: Friday, 2 November 2018 at 05:07 To: Christopher Wambua <wambua@ca.go.ke<mailto:wambua@ca.go.ke>> Cc: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Telcos regulator seeks to monitor WhatsApp
@GG
Thanks for sharing. I’m curious as to what the world is coming to. Everyone wants to snoop and regulate. Can the CA tell us what’s the major value proposition to increasing snooping on us?
Regulators need to spend more time enabling the sector they are supposed to grow and the CA has really been progressive in many ways. Once in a while though they try to go back to the bad old KANU days. The onus is on us to remind them that Kenyans shut that door kitambo sana.
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On 1 Nov 2018, at 10:57 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke
wrote:
Kenya is considering regulating online services such as WhatsApp and Skype in a radical move that could force the internet-based service
promotion of providers to
share data with the government.
The Communications Authority of Kenya (CA) is in search of a consultant to study and determine how the so-called over-the-top services (OTTS) operated by groups such as Facebook, which runs WhatsApp, and Skype owner Microsoft, could be regulated.
Read on:
https://www.nation.co.ke/business/Telcos-regulator-seeks-to-monitor-WhatsApp...
Best regards
Githaiga, Grace
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Noted. Thanks. *Apart from this interesting assertion:* *..... *b) that a major proportion of the revenues of operators in developing countries goes towards funding universal service obligations; There is the proposed requirement below that will likely result in some very animated discussions: ".. to submit recommendations on the supervision of the activities of OTT operators and on [models for revenue sharing between.....] " Unlike telcos, radio & TV broadcast networks seem to have addressed the issue through Set Top Boxes/decoders, conditional access and the subscriber management systems. Would this be a similar model to what Telcos would use to collect 'their share' of revenue? On Tue, 6 Nov 2018, 15:22 Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke wrote:
Listers
This might be of interest to you.
Regards
*Ali Hussein*
*Principal*
*AHK & Associates*
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On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 2:50 PM Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Chief
CA should synthesize that for us bana... :-) Not sure where to start boss..
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On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 2:38 PM Wainaina Mungai via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
See African Common Proposals at https://www.itu.int/md/T13-WTSA.16-C-0042/en
On Tuesday, November 6, 2018, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Rachel
How about you start by telling us what the African Common Proposals are?
Regards
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On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 2:20 PM Rachel Alwaa via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Barrack,
Indeed Kenya is aligned to the African Common proposals but I am not aware of any resolution that focuses on the regulation of the internet. Could you share the specific resolution that proposes to do what you are alleging, then we can respond appropriately?
Regards, Rachel
On Nov 5, 2018, at 20:58, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Greetings Mr. Wambua,
Many thanks for your prompt and elaborate responses as always. Permit me to behave like a mosquito and ask another question before we put the matter to rest. I was chatting with a friend who passed by the Plenipot in Dubai. I understand African Governments are unanimous about the need to regulate the Internet and are making arrangements to conduct similar studies, is this a correct position?. What is Kenya's position on Internet Regulation once again has it changed?
Congratulations to the Kenyan delegation for bagging another chance to seat on the ITU Council.
Best Regards
On 11/2/18, Wambua, Christopher via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Listers > > For purposes of clarity on the objects of the tender in question, I wish to > refer listers to the public tender document which is available on CA’s > website at > https://ca.go.ke/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Consultancy-Services-For-The-Stu... > > In brief, the Authority, under its strategic objective of enabling > widespread deployment of infrastructure and services through promotion of > new and emerging technologies, plans to undertake a study to determine the > regulatory mechanisms that can be employed to cater for new and emerging > areas with specific focus on over the top services. The consultant shall be > expected to propose the regulatory approach that the Authority can take in > respect to OTTs. CA takes this opportunity to invite listers who meet the > requirements set out in the tender documents to submit their bids by 14th > November 2018. > > CA wishes to assure listers that we have not interest whatsoever in snooping > into your WhatsApp conversations as that would be against the spirit and > letter of the constitution. We have however noted that the headlines on the > articles on this tender are misleading, and the Authority is taking up this > matter with the respective editors. > > I hope this clarification puts this matter to rest. > > Regards > > > > > Christopher Wambua > > Ag. Director/Consumer & Public Affairs | Consumer and Public Affairs > > [Description: Description: > http://digital.scanad.com/casignature/img/logo.png] > > Tel: +254 20 4242000/284 > Office Mobile: +254 730 042284/ > +254 730172284 > > P.O. Box 14448 Nairobi 00800 > > > [Description: Description: > http://digital.scanad.com/casignature/img/mail.png]wambua@ca.go.ke > [Description: Description: > http://digital.scanad.com/casignature/img/facebook.png] Communications > Authority of Kenya<https://www.facebook.com/CAOKenya?ref=hl> [Description: > Description: http://digital.scanad.com/casignature/img/twitter.png] ca_kenya > <https://twitter.com/CA_Kenya> [Description: Description: > http://digital.scanad.com/casignature/img/web.png] www.ca.go.ke > <http://www.ca.go.ke/> > > [Description: Description: http://digital.scanad.com/signature/banner.jpg] > > > > > From: kictanet > <kictanet-bounces+wambua=ca.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto: kictanet-bounces+wambua=ca.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> > on behalf of KICTAnet Discussions > <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > > Reply-To: KICTAnet Discussions > <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > > Date: Friday, 2 November 2018 at 05:07 > To: Christopher Wambua <wambua@ca.go.ke<mailto:wambua@ca.go.ke>> > Cc: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke>> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Telcos regulator seeks to monitor WhatsApp > > @GG > > Thanks for sharing. I’m curious as to what the world is coming to. Everyone > wants to snoop and regulate. Can the CA tell us what’s the major value > proposition to increasing snooping on us? > > Regulators need to spend more time enabling the sector they are supposed to > grow and the CA has really been progressive in many ways. Once in a while > though they try to go back to the bad old KANU days. The onus is on us to > remind them that Kenyans shut that door kitambo sana. > > Ali Hussein > Principal > AHK & Associates > +254 0713 601113 > > > Twitter: @AliHKassim > > Skype: abu-jomo > > LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > > "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a > habit." ~ Aristotle > > > Sent from my iPad > > On 1 Nov 2018, at 10:57 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet > <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > > wrote: > > > Kenya is considering regulating online services such as WhatsApp and Skype > in a radical move that could force the internet-based service providers to > share data with the government. > > The Communications Authority of Kenya (CA) is in search of a consultant to > study and determine how the so-called over-the-top services (OTTS) operated > by groups such as Facebook, which runs WhatsApp, and Skype owner Microsoft, > could be regulated. > > Read on: > https://www.nation.co.ke/business/Telcos-regulator-seeks-to-monitor-WhatsApp... > > > > > > Best regards > > > Githaiga, Grace > > > Co-Convenor > Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) > Twitter:@ggithaiga > Tel: 254722701495 > Skype: gracegithaiga > Alternate email: ggithaiga@hotmail.com<mailto:ggithaiga@hotmail.com
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On Nov 5, 2018, at 20:58, Barrack Otieno via kictanet wrote:
Greetings Mr. Wambua,
Many thanks for your prompt and elaborate responses as always. Permit me to behave like a mosquito and ask another question before we put the matter to rest. I was chatting with a friend who passed by the Plenipot in Dubai. I understand African Governments are unanimous about the need to regulate the Internet and are making arrangements to conduct similar studies, is this a correct position?. What is Kenya's position on Internet Regulation once again has it changed?
Congratulations to the Kenyan delegation for bagging another chance to seat on the ITU Council.
Best Regards
On 11/2/18, Wambua, Christopher via kictanet wrote:
Listers
For purposes of clarity on the objects of the tender in question, I wish to refer listers to the public tender document which is available on CA’s website at
https://ca.go.ke/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Consultancy-Services-For-The-Stu...
In brief, the Authority, under its strategic objective of enabling widespread deployment of infrastructure and services through
new and emerging technologies, plans to undertake a study to determine the regulatory mechanisms that can be employed to cater for new and emerging areas with specific focus on over the top services. The consultant shall be expected to propose the regulatory approach that the Authority can take in respect to OTTs. CA takes this opportunity to invite listers who meet the requirements set out in the tender documents to submit their bids by 14th November 2018.
CA wishes to assure listers that we have not interest whatsoever in snooping into your WhatsApp conversations as that would be against the spirit and letter of the constitution. We have however noted that the
articles on this tender are misleading, and the Authority is taking up this matter with the respective editors.
I hope this clarification puts this matter to rest.
Regards
Christopher Wambua
Ag. Director/Consumer & Public Affairs | Consumer and Public Affairs
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Date: Friday, 2 November 2018 at 05:07 To: Christopher Wambua Cc: Ali Hussein Subject: Re: [kictanet] Telcos regulator seeks to monitor WhatsApp
@GG
Thanks for sharing. I’m curious as to what the world is coming to. Everyone wants to snoop and regulate. Can the CA tell us what’s the major value proposition to increasing snooping on us?
Regulators need to spend more time enabling the sector they are supposed to grow and the CA has really been progressive in many ways. Once in a while though they try to go back to the bad old KANU days. The onus is on us to remind them that Kenyans shut that door kitambo sana.
Ali Hussein Principal AHK & Associates +254 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle
Sent from my iPad
On 1 Nov 2018, at 10:57 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet
wrote:
Kenya is considering regulating online services such as WhatsApp and Skype in a radical move that could force the internet-based service
share data with the government.
The Communications Authority of Kenya (CA) is in search of a consultant to study and determine how the so-called over-the-top services (OTTS) operated by groups such as Facebook, which runs WhatsApp, and Skype owner Microsoft, could be regulated.
Read on:
https://www.nation.co.ke/business/Telcos-regulator-seeks-to-monitor-WhatsApp...
Best regards
Githaiga, Grace
Co-Convenor Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) Twitter:@ggithaiga Tel: 254722701495 Skype: gracegithaiga Alternate email: ggithaiga@hotmail.com Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gracegithaiga www.kictanet.or.ke [5]
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and come
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Tupatia summary ndugu Ali! Best regards Githaiga, Grace On Tuesday, 06-11-2018 at 15:22 Ali Hussein via kictanet wrote: Listers This might be of interest to you. Regards Ali Hussein Principal AHK & Associates Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim [1] 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya. Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 2:50 PM Ali Hussein wrote: Chief CA should synthesize that for us bana... :-) Not sure where to start boss.. Regards Ali Hussein Principal AHK & Associates Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim [1] 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya. Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 2:38 PM Wainaina Mungai via kictanet wrote: See African Common Proposals at https://www.itu.int/md/T13-WTSA.16-C-0042/en On Tuesday, November 6, 2018, Ali Hussein via kictanet wrote: Rachel How about you start by telling us what the African Common Proposals are? Regards Ali Hussein Principal AHK & Associates Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim [1] 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya. Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 2:20 PM Rachel Alwaa via kictanet wrote: Hi Barrack, Indeed Kenya is aligned to the African Common proposals but I am not aware of any resolution that focuses on the regulation of the internet. Could you share the specific resolution that proposes to do what you are alleging, then we can respond appropriately? Regards, Rachel promotion of headlines on the providers to platform for privacy, do platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
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Eish GG Unless Rachel gawiaz me her salo for the month of November.. :-) Regards *Ali Hussein* *Principal* *AHK & Associates* Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya. Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 5:34 PM Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Tupatia summary ndugu Ali!
Best regards
Githaiga, Grace
On Tuesday, 06-11-2018 at 15:22 Ali Hussein via kictanet wrote:
Listers
This might be of interest to you.
Regards
*Ali Hussein*
*Principal*
*AHK & Associates*
Tel: +254 713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing,
Chiromo Road, Westlands,
Nairobi, Kenya.
Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.
On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 2:50 PM Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Chief
CA should synthesize that for us bana... [image: :-)] Not sure where to start boss..
Regards
*Ali Hussein*
*Principal*
*AHK & Associates*
Tel: +254 713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing,
Chiromo Road, Westlands,
Nairobi, Kenya.
Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.
On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 2:38 PM Wainaina Mungai via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
See African Common Proposals at https://www.itu.int/md/T13-WTSA.16-C-0042/en
On Tuesday, November 6, 2018, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Rachel
How about you start by telling us what the African Common Proposals are?
Regards
*Ali Hussein*
*Principal*
*AHK & Associates*
Tel: +254 713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing,
Chiromo Road, Westlands,
Nairobi, Kenya.
Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.
On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 2:20 PM Rachel Alwaa via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Barrack,
Indeed Kenya is aligned to the African Common proposals but I am not aware of any resolution that focuses on the regulation of the internet. Could you share the specific resolution that proposes to do what you are alleging, then we can respond appropriately?
Regards, Rachel
On Nov 5, 2018, at 20:58, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Greetings Mr. Wambua,
Many thanks for your prompt and elaborate responses as always. Permit me to behave like a mosquito and ask another question before we put the matter to rest. I was chatting with a friend who passed by the Plenipot in Dubai. I understand African Governments are unanimous about the need to regulate the Internet and are making arrangements to conduct similar studies, is this a correct position?. What is Kenya's position on Internet Regulation once again has it changed?
Congratulations to the Kenyan delegation for bagging another chance to seat on the ITU Council.
Best Regards
On 11/2/18, Wambua, Christopher via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Listers > > For purposes of clarity on the objects of the tender in question, I wish to > refer listers to the public tender document which is available on CA’s > website at > https://ca.go.ke/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Consultancy-Services-For-The-Stu... > > In brief, the Authority, under its strategic objective of enabling > widespread deployment of infrastructure and services through promotion of > new and emerging technologies, plans to undertake a study to determine the > regulatory mechanisms that can be employed to cater for new and emerging > areas with specific focus on over the top services. The consultant shall be > expected to propose the regulatory approach that the Authority can take in > respect to OTTs. CA takes this opportunity to invite listers who meet the > requirements set out in the tender documents to submit their bids by 14th > November 2018. > > CA wishes to assure listers that we have not interest whatsoever in snooping > into your WhatsApp conversations as that would be against the spirit and > letter of the constitution. We have however noted that the headlines on the > articles on this tender are misleading, and the Authority is taking up this > matter with the respective editors. > > I hope this clarification puts this matter to rest. > > Regards > > > > > Christopher Wambua > > Ag. Director/Consumer & Public Affairs | Consumer and Public Affairs > > [Description: Description: > http://digital.scanad.com/casignature/img/logo.png] > > Tel: +254 20 4242000/284 > Office Mobile: +254 730 042284/ > +254 730172284 > > P.O. Box 14448 Nairobi 00800 > > > [Description: Description: > http://digital.scanad.com/casignature/img/mail.png]wambua@ca.go.ke > [Description: Description: > http://digital.scanad.com/casignature/img/facebook.png] Communications > Authority of Kenya<https://www.facebook.com/CAOKenya?ref=hl> [Description: > Description: http://digital.scanad.com/casignature/img/twitter.png] ca_kenya > <https://twitter.com/CA_Kenya> [Description: Description: > http://digital.scanad.com/casignature/img/web.png] www.ca.go.ke > <http://www.ca.go.ke/> > > [Description: Description: http://digital.scanad.com/signature/banner.jpg] > > > > > From: kictanet > <kictanet-bounces+wambua=ca.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto: kictanet-bounces+wambua=ca.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> > on behalf of KICTAnet Discussions > <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > > Reply-To: KICTAnet Discussions > <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > > Date: Friday, 2 November 2018 at 05:07 > To: Christopher Wambua <wambua@ca.go.ke<mailto:wambua@ca.go.ke>> > Cc: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke>> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Telcos regulator seeks to monitor WhatsApp > > @GG > > Thanks for sharing. I’m curious as to what the world is coming to. Everyone > wants to snoop and regulate. Can the CA tell us what’s the major value > proposition to increasing snooping on us? > > Regulators need to spend more time enabling the sector they are supposed to > grow and the CA has really been progressive in many ways. Once in a while > though they try to go back to the bad old KANU days. The onus is on us to > remind them that Kenyans shut that door kitambo sana. > > Ali Hussein > Principal > AHK & Associates > +254 0713 601113 > > > Twitter: @AliHKassim > > Skype: abu-jomo > > LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > > "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a > habit." ~ Aristotle > > > Sent from my iPad > > On 1 Nov 2018, at 10:57 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet > <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > > wrote: > > > Kenya is considering regulating online services such as WhatsApp and Skype > in a radical move that could force the internet-based service providers to > share data with the government. > > The Communications Authority of Kenya (CA) is in search of a consultant to > study and determine how the so-called over-the-top services (OTTS) operated > by groups such as Facebook, which runs WhatsApp, and Skype owner Microsoft, > could be regulated. > > Read on: > https://www.nation.co.ke/business/Telcos-regulator-seeks-to-monitor-WhatsApp... > > > > > > Best regards > > > Githaiga, Grace > > > Co-Convenor > Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) > Twitter:@ggithaiga > Tel: 254722701495 > Skype: gracegithaiga > Alternate email: ggithaiga@hotmail.com<mailto:ggithaiga@hotmail.com
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Hi Ali, There is nothing so strange with this. Multilateral processes these days call for consolidation of positions at regional level to enable the meetings to arrive at decisions quicker and to also have larger impact. ITU is no exception. All the regions of the ITU, i.e. Africa, Asia Pacific, Arab region, Americas, CIS and Europe, all bring their positions to such a meeting, as blocs ( for the most part). Africa’s positions are what we refer to as African Common Proposals. Individual countries may bring their positions too, but in many cases , garnering the necessary support of the conference becomes harder. Hope this provides a glimpse. The ITU PP-18 is a meeting held every four years to provide general policy direction for its 193 member states , elect officials and also approve the strategic and financial plans. The proposals to the conference have to do with any issue that the plenipotentiary handles. Just take a little time and read, that will give you insights into the issues under discussion. In any case these are proposals and will still undergo discussions until the conference arrives at a consensus on final texts which are thereafter confirmed as the decisions of the conference. Having attended the WCIT in 2012, I am sure you can resonate with this process. Regards, Rachel From: kictanet <kictanet-bounces+alwala=ca.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet-bounces+alwala=ca.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> on behalf of KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Reply-To: KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Date: Tuesday, November 6, 2018 at 2:50 PM To: Rachel <alwala@ca.go.ke<mailto:alwala@ca.go.ke>> Cc: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Telcos regulator seeks to monitor WhatsApp + Plenipot Issues (Kenya's Position) Chief CA should synthesize that for us bana... :-) Not sure where to start boss.. Regards Ali Hussein Principal AHK & Associates Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim<http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya. Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 2:38 PM Wainaina Mungai via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: See African Common Proposals at https://www.itu.int/md/T13-WTSA.16-C-0042/en On Tuesday, November 6, 2018, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: Rachel How about you start by telling us what the African Common Proposals are? Regards Ali Hussein Principal AHK & Associates Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim<http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya. Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 2:20 PM Rachel Alwaa via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: Hi Barrack, Indeed Kenya is aligned to the African Common proposals but I am not aware of any resolution that focuses on the regulation of the internet. Could you share the specific resolution that proposes to do what you are alleging, then we can respond appropriately? Regards, Rachel
On Nov 5, 2018, at 20:58, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote:
Greetings Mr. Wambua,
Many thanks for your prompt and elaborate responses as always. Permit me to behave like a mosquito and ask another question before we put the matter to rest. I was chatting with a friend who passed by the Plenipot in Dubai. I understand African Governments are unanimous about the need to regulate the Internet and are making arrangements to conduct similar studies, is this a correct position?. What is Kenya's position on Internet Regulation once again has it changed?
Congratulations to the Kenyan delegation for bagging another chance to seat on the ITU Council.
Best Regards
On 11/2/18, Wambua, Christopher via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote:
Listers
For purposes of clarity on the objects of the tender in question, I wish to refer listers to the public tender document which is available on CA’s website at https://ca.go.ke/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Consultancy-Services-For-The-Stu...
In brief, the Authority, under its strategic objective of enabling widespread deployment of infrastructure and services through promotion of new and emerging technologies, plans to undertake a study to determine the regulatory mechanisms that can be employed to cater for new and emerging areas with specific focus on over the top services. The consultant shall be expected to propose the regulatory approach that the Authority can take in respect to OTTs. CA takes this opportunity to invite listers who meet the requirements set out in the tender documents to submit their bids by 14th November 2018.
CA wishes to assure listers that we have not interest whatsoever in snooping into your WhatsApp conversations as that would be against the spirit and letter of the constitution. We have however noted that the headlines on the articles on this tender are misleading, and the Authority is taking up this matter with the respective editors.
I hope this clarification puts this matter to rest.
Regards
Christopher Wambua
Ag. Director/Consumer & Public Affairs | Consumer and Public Affairs
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Tel: +254 20 4242000/284 Office Mobile: +254 730 042284/ +254 730172284
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From: kictanet <kictanet-bounces+wambua=ca.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:ca.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke><mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua<mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bwambua>=ca.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:ca.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke>>> on behalf of KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>>> Reply-To: KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>>> Date: Friday, 2 November 2018 at 05:07 To: Christopher Wambua <wambua@ca.go.ke<mailto:wambua@ca.go.ke><mailto:wambua@ca.go.ke<mailto:wambua@ca.go.ke>>> Cc: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke><mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Telcos regulator seeks to monitor WhatsApp
@GG
Thanks for sharing. I’m curious as to what the world is coming to. Everyone wants to snoop and regulate. Can the CA tell us what’s the major value proposition to increasing snooping on us?
Regulators need to spend more time enabling the sector they are supposed to grow and the CA has really been progressive in many ways. Once in a while though they try to go back to the bad old KANU days. The onus is on us to remind them that Kenyans shut that door kitambo sana.
Ali Hussein Principal AHK & Associates +254 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle
Sent from my iPad
On 1 Nov 2018, at 10:57 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>>> wrote:
Kenya is considering regulating online services such as WhatsApp and Skype in a radical move that could force the internet-based service providers to share data with the government.
The Communications Authority of Kenya (CA) is in search of a consultant to study and determine how the so-called over-the-top services (OTTS) operated by groups such as Facebook, which runs WhatsApp, and Skype owner Microsoft, could be regulated.
Read on: https://www.nation.co.ke/business/Telcos-regulator-seeks-to-monitor-WhatsApp...
Best regards
Githaiga, Grace
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Rachel I know how the process works. I was involved in the WCIT Conference in Dubai, 2012, when the ITRs (International Telecommunications Regulations) were being review. This was where the then PS for ICT, Dr. Bitange Ndemo went against the Common Positions articulated by ITU and the AU for obvious reasons which I don't really want to go into. Suffice it to say that when the CA and ICT Ministry holds brief for all Kenyans in such meetings it behoves you to break it down for us. What are we signing on? What are the implications for Kenyans and the Ecosystem? And how has the process arrived at the Common Position been? Did we push back? Or did we fall victim to herd mentality? Simply put, we want to be involved as it is our right and responsibility as per our new constitution. Having said that, I'm hoping that you guys will now break it down for us? *Ali Hussein* *Principal* *AHK & Associates* Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya. Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 10:58 PM Alwala, Rachel <Alwala@ca.go.ke> wrote:
Hi Ali,
There is nothing so strange with this. Multilateral processes these days call for consolidation of positions at regional level to enable the meetings to arrive at decisions quicker and to also have larger impact. ITU is no exception. All the regions of the ITU, i.e. Africa, Asia Pacific, Arab region, Americas, CIS and Europe, all bring their positions to such a meeting, as blocs ( for the most part). Africa’s positions are what we refer to as African Common Proposals. Individual countries may bring their positions too, but in many cases , garnering the necessary support of the conference becomes harder.
Hope this provides a glimpse.
The ITU PP-18 is a meeting held every four years to provide general policy direction for its 193 member states , elect officials and also approve the strategic and financial plans. The proposals to the conference have to do with any issue that the plenipotentiary handles. Just take a little time and read, that will give you insights into the issues under discussion. In any case these are proposals and will still undergo discussions until the conference arrives at a consensus on final texts which are thereafter confirmed as the decisions of the conference. Having attended the WCIT in 2012, I am sure you can resonate with this process.
Regards,
Rachel
From: kictanet <kictanet-bounces+alwala=ca.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke> on behalf of KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Reply-To: KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Tuesday, November 6, 2018 at 2:50 PM To: Rachel <alwala@ca.go.ke> Cc: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Telcos regulator seeks to monitor WhatsApp + Plenipot Issues (Kenya's Position)
Chief
CA should synthesize that for us bana... :-) Not sure where to start boss..
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On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 2:38 PM Wainaina Mungai via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
See African Common Proposals at https://www.itu.int/md/T13-WTSA.16-C-0042/en
On Tuesday, November 6, 2018, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Rachel
How about you start by telling us what the African Common Proposals are?
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On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 2:20 PM Rachel Alwaa via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Barrack,
Indeed Kenya is aligned to the African Common proposals but I am not aware of any resolution that focuses on the regulation of the internet. Could you share the specific resolution that proposes to do what you are alleging, then we can respond appropriately?
Regards, Rachel
On Nov 5, 2018, at 20:58, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Greetings Mr. Wambua,
Many thanks for your prompt and elaborate responses as always. Permit me to behave like a mosquito and ask another question before we put the matter to rest. I was chatting with a friend who passed by the Plenipot in Dubai. I understand African Governments are unanimous about the need to regulate the Internet and are making arrangements to conduct similar studies, is this a correct position?. What is Kenya's position on Internet Regulation once again has it changed?
Congratulations to the Kenyan delegation for bagging another chance to seat on the ITU Council.
Best Regards
On 11/2/18, Wambua, Christopher via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
For purposes of clarity on the objects of the tender in question, I wish to refer listers to the public tender document which is available on CA’s website at
https://ca.go.ke/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Consultancy-Services-For-The-Stu...
In brief, the Authority, under its strategic objective of enabling widespread deployment of infrastructure and services through
new and emerging technologies, plans to undertake a study to determine the regulatory mechanisms that can be employed to cater for new and emerging areas with specific focus on over the top services. The consultant shall be expected to propose the regulatory approach that the Authority can take in respect to OTTs. CA takes this opportunity to invite listers who meet the requirements set out in the tender documents to submit their bids by 14th November 2018.
CA wishes to assure listers that we have not interest whatsoever in snooping into your WhatsApp conversations as that would be against the spirit and letter of the constitution. We have however noted that the headlines on the articles on this tender are misleading, and the Authority is taking up this matter with the respective editors.
I hope this clarification puts this matter to rest.
Regards
Christopher Wambua
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Date: Friday, 2 November 2018 at 05:07 To: Christopher Wambua <wambua@ca.go.ke<mailto:wambua@ca.go.ke>> Cc: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Telcos regulator seeks to monitor WhatsApp
@GG
Thanks for sharing. I’m curious as to what the world is coming to. Everyone wants to snoop and regulate. Can the CA tell us what’s the major value proposition to increasing snooping on us?
Regulators need to spend more time enabling the sector they are supposed to grow and the CA has really been progressive in many ways. Once in a while though they try to go back to the bad old KANU days. The onus is on us to remind them that Kenyans shut that door kitambo sana.
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On 1 Nov 2018, at 10:57 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke
wrote:
Kenya is considering regulating online services such as WhatsApp and Skype in a radical move that could force the internet-based service
promotion of providers to
share data with the government.
The Communications Authority of Kenya (CA) is in search of a consultant to study and determine how the so-called over-the-top services (OTTS) operated by groups such as Facebook, which runs WhatsApp, and Skype owner Microsoft, could be regulated.
Read on:
https://www.nation.co.ke/business/Telcos-regulator-seeks-to-monitor-WhatsApp...
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Hi Ali, I am glad you understand the process. Indeed CA and the MOICT works in the interest of the country and we shall continue to do so with vigour. Given that these positions have been discussed over two years, I may not do justice by trying to summarize over 200 proposed resolutions of the PP on an email . We will commit to convene a forum to share the outcomes. On a separate note, You may want to know that we are developing a stakeholder engagement strategy as CA so in future, we shall have more inclusive engagements on many fronts. In the meantime, I would like remind you that the decision by Kenya at the WCIT was reversed by Government given the negative impact. Kenya signed the ITRs in 2014 and reverted to support the African positions. Moving as a bloc is important as we engage in issues that have such high stakes. We appreciate the continuous engagement with KICTANET. Regards, Rachel From: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke>> Date: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 at 6:21 AM To: Rachel <alwala@ca.go.ke<mailto:alwala@ca.go.ke>> Cc: KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Telcos regulator seeks to monitor WhatsApp + Plenipot Issues (Kenya's Position) Rachel I know how the process works. I was involved in the WCIT Conference in Dubai, 2012, when the ITRs (International Telecommunications Regulations) were being review. This was where the then PS for ICT, Dr. Bitange Ndemo went against the Common Positions articulated by ITU and the AU for obvious reasons which I don't really want to go into. Suffice it to say that when the CA and ICT Ministry holds brief for all Kenyans in such meetings it behoves you to break it down for us. What are we signing on? What are the implications for Kenyans and the Ecosystem? And how has the process arrived at the Common Position been? Did we push back? Or did we fall victim to herd mentality? Simply put, we want to be involved as it is our right and responsibility as per our new constitution. Having said that, I'm hoping that you guys will now break it down for us? Ali Hussein Principal AHK & Associates Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim<http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya. Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 10:58 PM Alwala, Rachel <Alwala@ca.go.ke<mailto:Alwala@ca.go.ke>> wrote: Hi Ali, There is nothing so strange with this. Multilateral processes these days call for consolidation of positions at regional level to enable the meetings to arrive at decisions quicker and to also have larger impact. ITU is no exception. All the regions of the ITU, i.e. Africa, Asia Pacific, Arab region, Americas, CIS and Europe, all bring their positions to such a meeting, as blocs ( for the most part). Africa’s positions are what we refer to as African Common Proposals. Individual countries may bring their positions too, but in many cases , garnering the necessary support of the conference becomes harder. Hope this provides a glimpse. The ITU PP-18 is a meeting held every four years to provide general policy direction for its 193 member states , elect officials and also approve the strategic and financial plans. The proposals to the conference have to do with any issue that the plenipotentiary handles. Just take a little time and read, that will give you insights into the issues under discussion. In any case these are proposals and will still undergo discussions until the conference arrives at a consensus on final texts which are thereafter confirmed as the decisions of the conference. Having attended the WCIT in 2012, I am sure you can resonate with this process. Regards, Rachel From: kictanet <kictanet-bounces+alwala=ca.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet-bounces+alwala=ca.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> on behalf of KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Reply-To: KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Date: Tuesday, November 6, 2018 at 2:50 PM To: Rachel <alwala@ca.go.ke<mailto:alwala@ca.go.ke>> Cc: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Telcos regulator seeks to monitor WhatsApp + Plenipot Issues (Kenya's Position) Chief CA should synthesize that for us bana... :-) Not sure where to start boss.. Regards Ali Hussein Principal AHK & Associates Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim<http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya. Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 2:38 PM Wainaina Mungai via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: See African Common Proposals at https://www.itu.int/md/T13-WTSA.16-C-0042/en On Tuesday, November 6, 2018, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: Rachel How about you start by telling us what the African Common Proposals are? Regards Ali Hussein Principal AHK & Associates Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim<http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya. Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 2:20 PM Rachel Alwaa via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: Hi Barrack, Indeed Kenya is aligned to the African Common proposals but I am not aware of any resolution that focuses on the regulation of the internet. Could you share the specific resolution that proposes to do what you are alleging, then we can respond appropriately? Regards, Rachel
On Nov 5, 2018, at 20:58, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote:
Greetings Mr. Wambua,
Many thanks for your prompt and elaborate responses as always. Permit me to behave like a mosquito and ask another question before we put the matter to rest. I was chatting with a friend who passed by the Plenipot in Dubai. I understand African Governments are unanimous about the need to regulate the Internet and are making arrangements to conduct similar studies, is this a correct position?. What is Kenya's position on Internet Regulation once again has it changed?
Congratulations to the Kenyan delegation for bagging another chance to seat on the ITU Council.
Best Regards
On 11/2/18, Wambua, Christopher via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote:
Listers
For purposes of clarity on the objects of the tender in question, I wish to refer listers to the public tender document which is available on CA’s website at https://ca.go.ke/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Consultancy-Services-For-The-Stu...
In brief, the Authority, under its strategic objective of enabling widespread deployment of infrastructure and services through promotion of new and emerging technologies, plans to undertake a study to determine the regulatory mechanisms that can be employed to cater for new and emerging areas with specific focus on over the top services. The consultant shall be expected to propose the regulatory approach that the Authority can take in respect to OTTs. CA takes this opportunity to invite listers who meet the requirements set out in the tender documents to submit their bids by 14th November 2018.
CA wishes to assure listers that we have not interest whatsoever in snooping into your WhatsApp conversations as that would be against the spirit and letter of the constitution. We have however noted that the headlines on the articles on this tender are misleading, and the Authority is taking up this matter with the respective editors.
I hope this clarification puts this matter to rest.
Regards
Christopher Wambua
Ag. Director/Consumer & Public Affairs | Consumer and Public Affairs
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@GG
Thanks for sharing. I’m curious as to what the world is coming to. Everyone wants to snoop and regulate. Can the CA tell us what’s the major value proposition to increasing snooping on us?
Regulators need to spend more time enabling the sector they are supposed to grow and the CA has really been progressive in many ways. Once in a while though they try to go back to the bad old KANU days. The onus is on us to remind them that Kenyans shut that door kitambo sana.
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On 1 Nov 2018, at 10:57 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>>> wrote:
Kenya is considering regulating online services such as WhatsApp and Skype in a radical move that could force the internet-based service providers to share data with the government.
The Communications Authority of Kenya (CA) is in search of a consultant to study and determine how the so-called over-the-top services (OTTS) operated by groups such as Facebook, which runs WhatsApp, and Skype owner Microsoft, could be regulated.
Read on: https://www.nation.co.ke/business/Telcos-regulator-seeks-to-monitor-WhatsApp...
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Rachel Thanks. And once again kudos to you and the CA for continuous engagement with the community. We deeply appreciate it even when we disagree in principle on some of the things you guys get us into... :-) Indeed it is in the spirit of ensuring diverse voices are heard. Something your home ministry should learn or are learning. We have noted with deep satisfaction that the Mother Ministry is now starting to engage. It can only mean well for the country. On the issue of WCIT 12 I'm glad you raised it because we would like that conversation included in the forum you intend to call to discuss the Common Positions. Whilst I understand the nature of GeoPolitics and why the government decided to finally sign the treaty I for one continue to be opposed to it. My reasons may fill a whole book so I'll hold my peace for now. History will not treat us well if we blindly follow like sheep to the slaughter house. Someone must keep us honest. Regards *Ali Hussein* *Principal* *AHK & Associates* Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya. Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 11:01 AM Alwala, Rachel <Alwala@ca.go.ke> wrote:
Hi Ali,
I am glad you understand the process. Indeed CA and the MOICT works in the interest of the country and we shall continue to do so with vigour. Given that these positions have been discussed over two years, I may not do justice by trying to summarize over 200 proposed resolutions of the PP on an email . We will commit to convene a forum to share the outcomes. On a separate note, You may want to know that we are developing a stakeholder engagement strategy as CA so in future, we shall have more inclusive engagements on many fronts.
In the meantime, I would like remind you that the decision by Kenya at the WCIT was reversed by Government given the negative impact. Kenya signed the ITRs in 2014 and reverted to support the African positions. Moving as a bloc is important as we engage in issues that have such high stakes.
We appreciate the continuous engagement with KICTANET.
Regards,
Rachel
From: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> Date: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 at 6:21 AM To: Rachel <alwala@ca.go.ke> Cc: KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Telcos regulator seeks to monitor WhatsApp + Plenipot Issues (Kenya's Position)
Rachel
I know how the process works. I was involved in the WCIT Conference in Dubai, 2012, when the ITRs (International Telecommunications Regulations) were being review. This was where the then PS for ICT, Dr. Bitange Ndemo went against the Common Positions articulated by ITU and the AU for obvious reasons which I don't really want to go into. Suffice it to say that when the CA and ICT Ministry holds brief for all Kenyans in such meetings it behoves you to break it down for us.
What are we signing on? What are the implications for Kenyans and the Ecosystem? And how has the process arrived at the Common Position been? Did we push back? Or did we fall victim to herd mentality? Simply put, we want to be involved as it is our right and responsibility as per our new constitution.
Having said that, I'm hoping that you guys will now break it down for us?
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On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 10:58 PM Alwala, Rachel <Alwala@ca.go.ke> wrote:
Hi Ali,
There is nothing so strange with this. Multilateral processes these days call for consolidation of positions at regional level to enable the meetings to arrive at decisions quicker and to also have larger impact. ITU is no exception. All the regions of the ITU, i.e. Africa, Asia Pacific, Arab region, Americas, CIS and Europe, all bring their positions to such a meeting, as blocs ( for the most part). Africa’s positions are what we refer to as African Common Proposals. Individual countries may bring their positions too, but in many cases , garnering the necessary support of the conference becomes harder.
Hope this provides a glimpse.
The ITU PP-18 is a meeting held every four years to provide general policy direction for its 193 member states , elect officials and also approve the strategic and financial plans. The proposals to the conference have to do with any issue that the plenipotentiary handles. Just take a little time and read, that will give you insights into the issues under discussion. In any case these are proposals and will still undergo discussions until the conference arrives at a consensus on final texts which are thereafter confirmed as the decisions of the conference. Having attended the WCIT in 2012, I am sure you can resonate with this process.
Regards,
Rachel
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Chief
CA should synthesize that for us bana... :-) Not sure where to start boss..
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On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 2:38 PM Wainaina Mungai via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
See African Common Proposals at https://www.itu.int/md/T13-WTSA.16-C-0042/en
On Tuesday, November 6, 2018, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Rachel
How about you start by telling us what the African Common Proposals are?
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On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 2:20 PM Rachel Alwaa via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Barrack,
Indeed Kenya is aligned to the African Common proposals but I am not aware of any resolution that focuses on the regulation of the internet. Could you share the specific resolution that proposes to do what you are alleging, then we can respond appropriately?
Regards, Rachel
On Nov 5, 2018, at 20:58, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Greetings Mr. Wambua,
Many thanks for your prompt and elaborate responses as always. Permit me to behave like a mosquito and ask another question before we put the matter to rest. I was chatting with a friend who passed by the Plenipot in Dubai. I understand African Governments are unanimous about the need to regulate the Internet and are making arrangements to conduct similar studies, is this a correct position?. What is Kenya's position on Internet Regulation once again has it changed?
Congratulations to the Kenyan delegation for bagging another chance to seat on the ITU Council.
Best Regards
On 11/2/18, Wambua, Christopher via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Listers > > For purposes of clarity on the objects of the tender in question, I wish to > refer listers to the public tender document which is available on CA’s > website at > https://ca.go.ke/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Consultancy-Services-For-The-Stu... > > In brief, the Authority, under its strategic objective of enabling > widespread deployment of infrastructure and services through promotion of > new and emerging technologies, plans to undertake a study to determine the > regulatory mechanisms that can be employed to cater for new and emerging > areas with specific focus on over the top services. The consultant shall be > expected to propose the regulatory approach that the Authority can take in > respect to OTTs. CA takes this opportunity to invite listers who meet the > requirements set out in the tender documents to submit their bids by 14th > November 2018. > > CA wishes to assure listers that we have not interest whatsoever in snooping > into your WhatsApp conversations as that would be against the spirit and > letter of the constitution. We have however noted that the headlines on the > articles on this tender are misleading, and the Authority is taking up this > matter with the respective editors. > > I hope this clarification puts this matter to rest. > > Regards > > > > > Christopher Wambua > > Ag. Director/Consumer & Public Affairs | Consumer and Public Affairs > > [Description: Description: > http://digital.scanad.com/casignature/img/logo.png] > > Tel: +254 20 4242000/284 > Office Mobile: +254 730 042284/ > +254 730172284 > > P.O. Box 14448 Nairobi 00800 > > > [Description: Description: > http://digital.scanad.com/casignature/img/mail.png]wambua@ca.go.ke > [Description: Description: > http://digital.scanad.com/casignature/img/facebook.png] Communications > Authority of Kenya<https://www.facebook.com/CAOKenya?ref=hl> [Description: > Description: http://digital.scanad.com/casignature/img/twitter.png] ca_kenya > <https://twitter.com/CA_Kenya> [Description: Description: > http://digital.scanad.com/casignature/img/web.png] www.ca.go.ke > <http://www.ca.go.ke/> > > [Description: Description: http://digital.scanad.com/signature/banner.jpg] > > > > > From: kictanet > <kictanet-bounces+wambua=ca.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto: kictanet-bounces+wambua=ca.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> > on behalf of KICTAnet Discussions > <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > > Reply-To: KICTAnet Discussions > <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > > Date: Friday, 2 November 2018 at 05:07 > To: Christopher Wambua <wambua@ca.go.ke<mailto:wambua@ca.go.ke>> > Cc: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke>> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Telcos regulator seeks to monitor WhatsApp > > @GG > > Thanks for sharing. I’m curious as to what the world is coming to. Everyone > wants to snoop and regulate. Can the CA tell us what’s the major value > proposition to increasing snooping on us? > > Regulators need to spend more time enabling the sector they are supposed to > grow and the CA has really been progressive in many ways. Once in a while > though they try to go back to the bad old KANU days. The onus is on us to > remind them that Kenyans shut that door kitambo sana. > > Ali Hussein > Principal > AHK & Associates > +254 0713 601113 > > > Twitter: @AliHKassim > > Skype: abu-jomo > > LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > > "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a > habit." ~ Aristotle > > > Sent from my iPad > > On 1 Nov 2018, at 10:57 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet > <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > > wrote: > > > Kenya is considering regulating online services such as WhatsApp and Skype > in a radical move that could force the internet-based service providers to > share data with the government. > > The Communications Authority of Kenya (CA) is in search of a consultant to > study and determine how the so-called over-the-top services (OTTS) operated > by groups such as Facebook, which runs WhatsApp, and Skype owner Microsoft, > could be regulated. > > Read on: > https://www.nation.co.ke/business/Telcos-regulator-seeks-to-monitor-WhatsApp... > > > > > > Best regards > > > Githaiga, Grace > > > Co-Convenor > Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) > Twitter:@ggithaiga > Tel: 254722701495 > Skype: gracegithaiga > Alternate email: ggithaiga@hotmail.com<mailto:ggithaiga@hotmail.com
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Hi Rachel, I would like to join Ali in commending CA for being very open. In addition, i participated in the ATU meeting in Nairobi again because of an invitation from CA. Going forwad other than the engagement strategy, it would be useful for CA to build the capacity of stakeholders on how to meaningfully contribute to the countries position just as we attempted to do during the ITR deliberations in 2012 at the Kenya Internet Governance Forum. This can be done in partnership with fora such as the Kenya School of Internet Governance. As you can see on the list, the issues have generated a very interesting debate on the list that would have provided useful input to the Kenyan delegation. I think ATU should also come our and engage with the community and i am confident Mr. Omo the incoming Secretary General will do this across the African continent. I say this because Africa Union has stepped up engagement with stakeholders across the continent. The ITU Secretary General is also a common face in various Internet Governance related meetings around the globe which helps many people understand ITU issues. All the best to the Kenyan delegation once again, we will do our best to read and understand the resolutions. Regards On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 3:33 PM Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Rachel
Thanks. And once again kudos to you and the CA for continuous engagement with the community. We deeply appreciate it even when we disagree in principle on some of the things you guys get us into... :-) Indeed it is in the spirit of ensuring diverse voices are heard. Something your home ministry should learn or are learning. We have noted with deep satisfaction that the Mother Ministry is now starting to engage. It can only mean well for the country.
On the issue of WCIT 12 I'm glad you raised it because we would like that conversation included in the forum you intend to call to discuss the Common Positions. Whilst I understand the nature of GeoPolitics and why the government decided to finally sign the treaty I for one continue to be opposed to it. My reasons may fill a whole book so I'll hold my peace for now. History will not treat us well if we blindly follow like sheep to the slaughter house. Someone must keep us honest.
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On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 11:01 AM Alwala, Rachel <Alwala@ca.go.ke> wrote:
Hi Ali,
I am glad you understand the process. Indeed CA and the MOICT works in the interest of the country and we shall continue to do so with vigour. Given that these positions have been discussed over two years, I may not do justice by trying to summarize over 200 proposed resolutions of the PP on an email . We will commit to convene a forum to share the outcomes. On a separate note, You may want to know that we are developing a stakeholder engagement strategy as CA so in future, we shall have more inclusive engagements on many fronts.
In the meantime, I would like remind you that the decision by Kenya at the WCIT was reversed by Government given the negative impact. Kenya signed the ITRs in 2014 and reverted to support the African positions. Moving as a bloc is important as we engage in issues that have such high stakes.
We appreciate the continuous engagement with KICTANET.
Regards,
Rachel
From: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> Date: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 at 6:21 AM To: Rachel <alwala@ca.go.ke> Cc: KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Telcos regulator seeks to monitor WhatsApp + Plenipot Issues (Kenya's Position)
Rachel
I know how the process works. I was involved in the WCIT Conference in Dubai, 2012, when the ITRs (International Telecommunications Regulations) were being review. This was where the then PS for ICT, Dr. Bitange Ndemo went against the Common Positions articulated by ITU and the AU for obvious reasons which I don't really want to go into. Suffice it to say that when the CA and ICT Ministry holds brief for all Kenyans in such meetings it behoves you to break it down for us.
What are we signing on? What are the implications for Kenyans and the Ecosystem? And how has the process arrived at the Common Position been? Did we push back? Or did we fall victim to herd mentality? Simply put, we want to be involved as it is our right and responsibility as per our new constitution.
Having said that, I'm hoping that you guys will now break it down for us?
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On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 10:58 PM Alwala, Rachel <Alwala@ca.go.ke> wrote:
Hi Ali,
There is nothing so strange with this. Multilateral processes these days call for consolidation of positions at regional level to enable the meetings to arrive at decisions quicker and to also have larger impact. ITU is no exception. All the regions of the ITU, i.e. Africa, Asia Pacific, Arab region, Americas, CIS and Europe, all bring their positions to such a meeting, as blocs ( for the most part). Africa’s positions are what we refer to as African Common Proposals. Individual countries may bring their positions too, but in many cases , garnering the necessary support of the conference becomes harder.
Hope this provides a glimpse.
The ITU PP-18 is a meeting held every four years to provide general policy direction for its 193 member states , elect officials and also approve the strategic and financial plans. The proposals to the conference have to do with any issue that the plenipotentiary handles. Just take a little time and read, that will give you insights into the issues under discussion. In any case these are proposals and will still undergo discussions until the conference arrives at a consensus on final texts which are thereafter confirmed as the decisions of the conference. Having attended the WCIT in 2012, I am sure you can resonate with this process.
Regards,
Rachel
From: kictanet <kictanet-bounces+alwala=ca.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke> on behalf of KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Reply-To: KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Tuesday, November 6, 2018 at 2:50 PM To: Rachel <alwala@ca.go.ke> Cc: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Telcos regulator seeks to monitor WhatsApp + Plenipot Issues (Kenya's Position)
Chief
CA should synthesize that for us bana... :-) Not sure where to start boss..
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On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 2:38 PM Wainaina Mungai via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
See African Common Proposals at https://www.itu.int/md/T13-WTSA.16-C-0042/en
On Tuesday, November 6, 2018, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Rachel
How about you start by telling us what the African Common Proposals are?
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On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 2:20 PM Rachel Alwaa via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Barrack,
Indeed Kenya is aligned to the African Common proposals but I am not aware of any resolution that focuses on the regulation of the internet. Could you share the specific resolution that proposes to do what you are alleging, then we can respond appropriately?
Regards, Rachel
> On Nov 5, 2018, at 20:58, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > Greetings Mr. Wambua, > > Many thanks for your prompt and elaborate responses as always. Permit > me to behave like a mosquito and ask another question before we put > the matter to rest. I was chatting with a friend who passed by the > Plenipot in Dubai. I understand African Governments are unanimous > about the need to regulate the Internet and are making arrangements to > conduct similar studies, is this a correct position?. What is Kenya's > position on Internet Regulation once again has it changed? > > Congratulations to the Kenyan delegation for bagging another chance to > seat on the ITU Council. > > Best Regards > > On 11/2/18, Wambua, Christopher via kictanet > <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >> Listers >> >> For purposes of clarity on the objects of the tender in question, I wish to >> refer listers to the public tender document which is available on CA’s >> website at >> https://ca.go.ke/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Consultancy-Services-For-The-Stu... >> >> In brief, the Authority, under its strategic objective of enabling >> widespread deployment of infrastructure and services through promotion of >> new and emerging technologies, plans to undertake a study to determine the >> regulatory mechanisms that can be employed to cater for new and emerging >> areas with specific focus on over the top services. The consultant shall be >> expected to propose the regulatory approach that the Authority can take in >> respect to OTTs. CA takes this opportunity to invite listers who meet the >> requirements set out in the tender documents to submit their bids by 14th >> November 2018. >> >> CA wishes to assure listers that we have not interest whatsoever in snooping >> into your WhatsApp conversations as that would be against the spirit and >> letter of the constitution. We have however noted that the headlines on the >> articles on this tender are misleading, and the Authority is taking up this >> matter with the respective editors. >> >> I hope this clarification puts this matter to rest. >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> >> Christopher Wambua >> >> Ag. Director/Consumer & Public Affairs | Consumer and Public Affairs >> >> [Description: Description: >> http://digital.scanad.com/casignature/img/logo.png] >> >> Tel: +254 20 4242000/284 >> Office Mobile: +254 730 042284/ >> +254 730172284 >> >> P.O. 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I’m curious as to what the world is coming to. Everyone >> wants to snoop and regulate. Can the CA tell us what’s the major value >> proposition to increasing snooping on us? >> >> Regulators need to spend more time enabling the sector they are supposed to >> grow and the CA has really been progressive in many ways. Once in a while >> though they try to go back to the bad old KANU days. The onus is on us to >> remind them that Kenyans shut that door kitambo sana. >> >> Ali Hussein >> Principal >> AHK & Associates >> +254 0713 601113 >> >> >> Twitter: @AliHKassim >> >> Skype: abu-jomo >> >> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >> >> "We are what we repeatedly do. 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Hi Wainaina, those are common proposals to the World Telecommunications Standardization Assembly In 2016. The ITU PP-18 African Common Proposals can be found at the link: https://www.itu.int/md/S18-PP-C-0055/en. Ali, the allegation was that we have proposals on internet regulation. If Barrack could point out which resolution proposes internet regulation it would be helpful. Regards, Rachel
On Nov 6, 2018, at 15:36, Wainaina Mungai via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
See African Common Proposals at https://www.itu.int/md/T13-WTSA.16-C-0042/en
On Tuesday, November 6, 2018, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Rachel
How about you start by telling us what the African Common Proposals are?
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On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 2:20 PM Rachel Alwaa via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Hi Barrack,
Indeed Kenya is aligned to the African Common proposals but I am not aware of any resolution that focuses on the regulation of the internet. Could you share the specific resolution that proposes to do what you are alleging, then we can respond appropriately?
Regards, Rachel
On Nov 5, 2018, at 20:58, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Greetings Mr. Wambua,
Many thanks for your prompt and elaborate responses as always. Permit me to behave like a mosquito and ask another question before we put the matter to rest. I was chatting with a friend who passed by the Plenipot in Dubai. I understand African Governments are unanimous about the need to regulate the Internet and are making arrangements to conduct similar studies, is this a correct position?. What is Kenya's position on Internet Regulation once again has it changed?
Congratulations to the Kenyan delegation for bagging another chance to seat on the ITU Council.
Best Regards
On 11/2/18, Wambua, Christopher via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
For purposes of clarity on the objects of the tender in question, I wish to refer listers to the public tender document which is available on CA’s website at https://ca.go.ke/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Consultancy-Services-For-The-Stu...
In brief, the Authority, under its strategic objective of enabling widespread deployment of infrastructure and services through promotion of new and emerging technologies, plans to undertake a study to determine the regulatory mechanisms that can be employed to cater for new and emerging areas with specific focus on over the top services. The consultant shall be expected to propose the regulatory approach that the Authority can take in respect to OTTs. CA takes this opportunity to invite listers who meet the requirements set out in the tender documents to submit their bids by 14th November 2018.
CA wishes to assure listers that we have not interest whatsoever in snooping into your WhatsApp conversations as that would be against the spirit and letter of the constitution. We have however noted that the headlines on the articles on this tender are misleading, and the Authority is taking up this matter with the respective editors.
I hope this clarification puts this matter to rest.
Regards
Christopher Wambua
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From: kictanet <kictanet-bounces+wambua=ca.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua=ca.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> on behalf of KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Reply-To: KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Date: Friday, 2 November 2018 at 05:07 To: Christopher Wambua <wambua@ca.go.ke<mailto:wambua@ca.go.ke>> Cc: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Telcos regulator seeks to monitor WhatsApp
@GG
Thanks for sharing. I’m curious as to what the world is coming to. Everyone wants to snoop and regulate. Can the CA tell us what’s the major value proposition to increasing snooping on us?
Regulators need to spend more time enabling the sector they are supposed to grow and the CA has really been progressive in many ways. Once in a while though they try to go back to the bad old KANU days. The onus is on us to remind them that Kenyans shut that door kitambo sana.
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Sent from my iPad
On 1 Nov 2018, at 10:57 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote:
Kenya is considering regulating online services such as WhatsApp and Skype in a radical move that could force the internet-based service providers to share data with the government.
The Communications Authority of Kenya (CA) is in search of a consultant to study and determine how the so-called over-the-top services (OTTS) operated by groups such as Facebook, which runs WhatsApp, and Skype owner Microsoft, could be regulated.
Read on: https://www.nation.co.ke/business/Telcos-regulator-seeks-to-monitor-WhatsApp...
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Hi Rachel, As indicated, my question resulted from a conversation i had with a colleague who attended some of the meetings at PP in Dubai, i am reading the resolutions myself and will revert once i identify issues that i consider contentious. Be that as it may, common positions are great for as long as they don't interfere with with the gains we have made in building a celebrated world class ICT ecosystem. We are confident that CA as always will protect the gains that we have made. Nonetheless, thank you for taking time to respond despite the busy schedule at Plenipot. Regards On Tue, 6 Nov 2018 13:19 Rachel Alwaa <rdalwala@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Barrack,
Indeed Kenya is aligned to the African Common proposals but I am not aware of any resolution that focuses on the regulation of the internet. Could you share the specific resolution that proposes to do what you are alleging, then we can respond appropriately?
Regards, Rachel
On Nov 5, 2018, at 20:58, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Greetings Mr. Wambua,
Many thanks for your prompt and elaborate responses as always. Permit me to behave like a mosquito and ask another question before we put the matter to rest. I was chatting with a friend who passed by the Plenipot in Dubai. I understand African Governments are unanimous about the need to regulate the Internet and are making arrangements to conduct similar studies, is this a correct position?. What is Kenya's position on Internet Regulation once again has it changed?
Congratulations to the Kenyan delegation for bagging another chance to seat on the ITU Council.
Best Regards
On 11/2/18, Wambua, Christopher via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
For purposes of clarity on the objects of the tender in question, I wish to refer listers to the public tender document which is available on CA’s website at
https://ca.go.ke/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Consultancy-Services-For-The-Stu...
In brief, the Authority, under its strategic objective of enabling widespread deployment of infrastructure and services through promotion
new and emerging technologies, plans to undertake a study to determine
regulatory mechanisms that can be employed to cater for new and emerging areas with specific focus on over the top services. The consultant shall be expected to propose the regulatory approach that the Authority can take in respect to OTTs. CA takes this opportunity to invite listers who meet
requirements set out in the tender documents to submit their bids by 14th November 2018.
CA wishes to assure listers that we have not interest whatsoever in snooping into your WhatsApp conversations as that would be against the spirit and letter of the constitution. We have however noted that the headlines on
articles on this tender are misleading, and the Authority is taking up
of the the the this
matter with the respective editors.
I hope this clarification puts this matter to rest.
Regards
Christopher Wambua
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From: kictanet <kictanet-bounces+wambua=ca.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto: kictanet-bounces+wambua=ca.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> on behalf of KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Reply-To: KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Date: Friday, 2 November 2018 at 05:07 To: Christopher Wambua <wambua@ca.go.ke<mailto:wambua@ca.go.ke>> Cc: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Telcos regulator seeks to monitor WhatsApp
@GG
Thanks for sharing. I’m curious as to what the world is coming to. Everyone wants to snoop and regulate. Can the CA tell us what’s the major value proposition to increasing snooping on us?
Regulators need to spend more time enabling the sector they are supposed to grow and the CA has really been progressive in many ways. Once in a while though they try to go back to the bad old KANU days. The onus is on us to remind them that Kenyans shut that door kitambo sana.
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On 1 Nov 2018, at 10:57 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote:
Kenya is considering regulating online services such as WhatsApp and Skype in a radical move that could force the internet-based service providers to share data with the government.
The Communications Authority of Kenya (CA) is in search of a consultant to study and determine how the so-called over-the-top services (OTTS) operated by groups such as Facebook, which runs WhatsApp, and Skype owner Microsoft, could be regulated.
Read on:
https://www.nation.co.ke/business/Telcos-regulator-seeks-to-monitor-WhatsApp...
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Wambua, Christopher