IEBC registry shows 128, 926 records of shared voter details - Who audits the IEBC database?
IEBC Chair Wafula Chebukati said that these cases of multiple registrations are attributed to data entry errors at the time of registration, possible use of one ID to register more than once, attempted registration of more than one person using same ID as well as shared National ID numbers. “The Commission is working closely with National Registration Bureau (NRB) to clean up all the shared IDs. In addition, a team of Registration officers and ICT operators are conducting further cleanup,” said Chebukati. He said that the provisional register will be availed to members of the public for verification once the voter enlistment exercise is over. Read more at: https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2000231105/iebc-registry-shows-128-9... Of particular interest is the following line : attempted registration of more than one person using same ID as well as shared National ID numbers, do we have competent people managing this important institution? Regards -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254733206359 Skype: barrack.otieno PGP ID: 0x2611D86A
Thank you Barrack for sharing. I believe that this issue makes it more urgent to have an audit of the voters register. Regards, 2017-01-24 19:03 GMT+03:00 Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>:
IEBC Chair Wafula Chebukati said that these cases of multiple registrations are attributed to data entry errors at the time of registration, possible use of one ID to register more than once, attempted registration of more than one person using same ID as well as shared National ID numbers. “The Commission is working closely with National Registration Bureau (NRB) to clean up all the shared IDs. In addition, a team of Registration officers and ICT operators are conducting further cleanup,” said Chebukati. He said that the provisional register will be availed to members of the public for verification once the voter enlistment exercise is over. Read more at: https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2000231105/iebc- registry-shows-128-926-records-of-shared-voter-details
Of particular interest is the following line : attempted registration of more than one person using same ID as well as shared National ID numbers, do we have competent people managing this important institution?
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IMHO, We need an early spotlight on the competences, capacities and integrity of people running IEBC's ICT functions. We cannot afford to have mediocrity being exhibited in the ICT profession, yet again. On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 7:03 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
IEBC Chair Wafula Chebukati said that these cases of multiple registrations are attributed to data entry errors at the time of registration, possible use of one ID to register more than once, attempted registration of more than one person using same ID as well as shared National ID numbers. “The Commission is working closely with National Registration Bureau (NRB) to clean up all the shared IDs. In addition, a team of Registration officers and ICT operators are conducting further cleanup,” said Chebukati. He said that the provisional register will be availed to members of the public for verification once the voter enlistment exercise is over. Read more at: https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2000231105/iebc- registry-shows-128-926-records-of-shared-voter-details
Of particular interest is the following line : attempted registration of more than one person using same ID as well as shared National ID numbers, do we have competent people managing this important institution?
Regards
-- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254733206359 Skype: barrack.otieno PGP ID: 0x2611D86A
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My rather basic question is how is that database designed...it lacks data integrity (how did that happen?) ..could this be delibrate . Regards, Ronald Ojino On 24-Jan-2017 8:06 PM, "John Kieti via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
IMHO, We need an early spotlight on the competences, capacities and integrity of people running IEBC's ICT functions. We cannot afford to have mediocrity being exhibited in the ICT profession, yet again.
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 7:03 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
IEBC Chair Wafula Chebukati said that these cases of multiple registrations are attributed to data entry errors at the time of registration, possible use of one ID to register more than once, attempted registration of more than one person using same ID as well as shared National ID numbers. “The Commission is working closely with National Registration Bureau (NRB) to clean up all the shared IDs. In addition, a team of Registration officers and ICT operators are conducting further cleanup,” said Chebukati. He said that the provisional register will be availed to members of the public for verification once the voter enlistment exercise is over. Read more at: https://www.standardmedia.co.k e/article/2000231105/iebc-registry-shows-128-926-records-of- shared-voter-details
Of particular interest is the following line : attempted registration of more than one person using same ID as well as shared National ID numbers, do we have competent people managing this important institution?
Regards
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@Ronald I suspect the offline nature of collection of data and biometric information might have resulted in multiple data points in cases of genuine ID number shared between more than one person (how that happens I have no clue) or trying to register more than once. If you ask me, What should have happened is for them to delete all repeating entries, and leave the burden of proof on the registrants. At least the database would at all times then be accurate. On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 8:57 PM, Ronald Ojino via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
My rather basic question is how is that database designed...it lacks data integrity (how did that happen?) ..could this be delibrate . Regards, Ronald Ojino
On 24-Jan-2017 8:06 PM, "John Kieti via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
IMHO, We need an early spotlight on the competences, capacities and integrity of people running IEBC's ICT functions. We cannot afford to have mediocrity being exhibited in the ICT profession, yet again.
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 7:03 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
IEBC Chair Wafula Chebukati said that these cases of multiple registrations are attributed to data entry errors at the time of registration, possible use of one ID to register more than once, attempted registration of more than one person using same ID as well as shared National ID numbers. “The Commission is working closely with National Registration Bureau (NRB) to clean up all the shared IDs. In addition, a team of Registration officers and ICT operators are conducting further cleanup,” said Chebukati. He said that the provisional register will be availed to members of the public for verification once the voter enlistment exercise is over. Read more at: https://www.standardmedia.co.k e/article/2000231105/iebc-registry-shows-128-926-records-of- shared-voter-details
Of particular interest is the following line : attempted registration of more than one person using same ID as well as shared National ID numbers, do we have competent people managing this important institution?
Regards
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There is a tendency among some database designers to avoid setting the "unique" property for database fields other than their system's own auto_increment or otherwise generated primary keys. Am also curious what mechanism is in place to stop me from registering as a voter, first using my passport , then again using my national ID. Anyone? Best regards. On Jan 24, 2017 21:20, "Collins Areba via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Ronald I suspect the offline nature of collection of data and biometric information might have resulted in multiple data points in cases of genuine ID number shared between more than one person (how that happens I have no clue) or trying to register more than once. If you ask me, What should have happened is for them to delete all repeating entries, and leave the burden of proof on the registrants. At least the database would at all times then be accurate.
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 8:57 PM, Ronald Ojino via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
My rather basic question is how is that database designed...it lacks data integrity (how did that happen?) ..could this be delibrate . Regards, Ronald Ojino
On 24-Jan-2017 8:06 PM, "John Kieti via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
IMHO, We need an early spotlight on the competences, capacities and integrity of people running IEBC's ICT functions. We cannot afford to have mediocrity being exhibited in the ICT profession, yet again.
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 7:03 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
IEBC Chair Wafula Chebukati said that these cases of multiple registrations are attributed to data entry errors at the time of registration, possible use of one ID to register more than once, attempted registration of more than one person using same ID as well as shared National ID numbers. “The Commission is working closely with National Registration Bureau (NRB) to clean up all the shared IDs. In addition, a team of Registration officers and ICT operators are conducting further cleanup,” said Chebukati. He said that the provisional register will be availed to members of the public for verification once the voter enlistment exercise is over. Read more at: https://www.standardmedia.co.k e/article/2000231105/iebc-registry-shows-128-926-records-of- shared-voter-details
Of particular interest is the following line : attempted registration of more than one person using same ID as well as shared National ID numbers, do we have competent people managing this important institution?
Regards
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@Collins/John, i find such a system as very vital and when some IT professionals design its database like junior high school students, it beats logic....what was so hard in using the id no or passportno as its primary key or better still us a composite key...basic stuff that just makes one wonder when such issues arise in a database of such magnitude. Auto-incrementing the primary key here is suicidal in my opinion. The designer is either a total novice or deserves disciplinary action. On 24-Jan-2017 11:15 PM, "John Kieti via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: There is a tendency among some database designers to avoid setting the "unique" property for database fields other than their system's own auto_increment or otherwise generated primary keys. Am also curious what mechanism is in place to stop me from registering as a voter, first using my passport , then again using my national ID. Anyone? Best regards. On Jan 24, 2017 21:20, "Collins Areba via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Ronald I suspect the offline nature of collection of data and biometric information might have resulted in multiple data points in cases of genuine ID number shared between more than one person (how that happens I have no clue) or trying to register more than once. If you ask me, What should have happened is for them to delete all repeating entries, and leave the burden of proof on the registrants. At least the database would at all times then be accurate.
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 8:57 PM, Ronald Ojino via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
My rather basic question is how is that database designed...it lacks data integrity (how did that happen?) ..could this be delibrate . Regards, Ronald Ojino
On 24-Jan-2017 8:06 PM, "John Kieti via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
IMHO, We need an early spotlight on the competences, capacities and integrity of people running IEBC's ICT functions. We cannot afford to have mediocrity being exhibited in the ICT profession, yet again.
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 7:03 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
IEBC Chair Wafula Chebukati said that these cases of multiple registrations are attributed to data entry errors at the time of registration, possible use of one ID to register more than once, attempted registration of more than one person using same ID as well as shared National ID numbers. “The Commission is working closely with National Registration Bureau (NRB) to clean up all the shared IDs. In addition, a team of Registration officers and ICT operators are conducting further cleanup,” said Chebukati. He said that the provisional register will be availed to members of the public for verification once the voter enlistment exercise is over. Read more at: https://www.standardmedia.co.k e/article/2000231105/iebc-registry-shows-128-926-records-of- shared-voter-details
Of particular interest is the following line : attempted registration of more than one person using same ID as well as shared National ID numbers, do we have competent people managing this important institution?
Regards
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The assumption being made here being that I'd numbers are unique, right? On 25 Jan 2017 05:23, "Ronald Ojino via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Collins/John, i find such a system as very vital and when some IT professionals design its database like junior high school students, it beats logic....what was so hard in using the id no or passportno as its primary key or better still us a composite key...basic stuff that just makes one wonder when such issues arise in a database of such magnitude. Auto-incrementing the primary key here is suicidal in my opinion. The designer is either a total novice or deserves disciplinary action.
On 24-Jan-2017 11:15 PM, "John Kieti via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
There is a tendency among some database designers to avoid setting the "unique" property for database fields other than their system's own auto_increment or otherwise generated primary keys.
Am also curious what mechanism is in place to stop me from registering as a voter, first using my passport , then again using my national ID. Anyone?
Best regards.
On Jan 24, 2017 21:20, "Collins Areba via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Ronald I suspect the offline nature of collection of data and biometric information might have resulted in multiple data points in cases of genuine ID number shared between more than one person (how that happens I have no clue) or trying to register more than once. If you ask me, What should have happened is for them to delete all repeating entries, and leave the burden of proof on the registrants. At least the database would at all times then be accurate.
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 8:57 PM, Ronald Ojino via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
My rather basic question is how is that database designed...it lacks data integrity (how did that happen?) ..could this be delibrate . Regards, Ronald Ojino
On 24-Jan-2017 8:06 PM, "John Kieti via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
IMHO, We need an early spotlight on the competences, capacities and integrity of people running IEBC's ICT functions. We cannot afford to have mediocrity being exhibited in the ICT profession, yet again.
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 7:03 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
IEBC Chair Wafula Chebukati said that these cases of multiple registrations are attributed to data entry errors at the time of registration, possible use of one ID to register more than once, attempted registration of more than one person using same ID as well as shared National ID numbers. “The Commission is working closely with National Registration Bureau (NRB) to clean up all the shared IDs. In addition, a team of Registration officers and ICT operators are conducting further cleanup,” said Chebukati. He said that the provisional register will be availed to members of the public for verification once the voter enlistment exercise is over. Read more at: https://www.standardmedia.co.k e/article/2000231105/iebc-registry-shows-128-926-records-of- shared-voter-details
Of particular interest is the following line : attempted registration of more than one person using same ID as well as shared National ID numbers, do we have competent people managing this important institution?
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National ID numbers are unique. That is why all the e-government systems being implemented use it to identify a Kenyan citizen uniquely. Regards, Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Collins Areba via kictanet Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 8:38 AM To: awatila@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Collins Areba Subject: Re: [kictanet] IEBC registry shows 128,926 records of shared voter details - Who audits the IEBC database? The assumption being made here being that I'd numbers are unique, right? On 25 Jan 2017 05:23, "Ronald Ojino via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: @Collins/John, i find such a system as very vital and when some IT professionals design its database like junior high school students, it beats logic....what was so hard in using the id no or passportno as its primary key or better still us a composite key...basic stuff that just makes one wonder when such issues arise in a database of such magnitude. Auto-incrementing the primary key here is suicidal in my opinion. The designer is either a total novice or deserves disciplinary action. On 24-Jan-2017 11:15 PM, "John Kieti via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: There is a tendency among some database designers to avoid setting the "unique" property for database fields other than their system's own auto_increment or otherwise generated primary keys. Am also curious what mechanism is in place to stop me from registering as a voter, first using my passport , then again using my national ID. Anyone? Best regards. On Jan 24, 2017 21:20, "Collins Areba via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: @Ronald I suspect the offline nature of collection of data and biometric information might have resulted in multiple data points in cases of genuine ID number shared between more than one person (how that happens I have no clue) or trying to register more than once. If you ask me, What should have happened is for them to delete all repeating entries, and leave the burden of proof on the registrants. At least the database would at all times then be accurate. On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 8:57 PM, Ronald Ojino via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: My rather basic question is how is that database designed...it lacks data integrity (how did that happen?) ..could this be delibrate . Regards, Ronald Ojino On 24-Jan-2017 8:06 PM, "John Kieti via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: IMHO, We need an early spotlight on the competences, capacities and integrity of people running IEBC's ICT functions. We cannot afford to have mediocrity being exhibited in the ICT profession, yet again. On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 7:03 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: IEBC Chair Wafula Chebukati said that these cases of multiple registrations are attributed to data entry errors at the time of registration, possible use of one ID to register more than once, attempted registration of more than one person using same ID as well as shared National ID numbers. “The Commission is working closely with National Registration Bureau (NRB) to clean up all the shared IDs. In addition, a team of Registration officers and ICT operators are conducting further cleanup,” said Chebukati. He said that the provisional register will be availed to members of the public for verification once the voter enlistment exercise is over. Read more at: https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2000231105/iebc-registry-shows-128-9... Of particular interest is the following line : attempted registration of more than one person using same ID as well as shared National ID numbers, do we have competent people managing this important institution? Regards -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254733206359 Skype: barrack.otieno PGP ID: 0x2611D86A _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/ Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jkieti%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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We might be crucify in iebc for something entirely not their doing. That the duplicates have been found and have to be dealt with is likely more a challenge of the system not being real time. I think it is not necessarily a database design issue. I refuse to believe that regardless of competency levels mistakes of that nature would be the case. On 25 Jan 2017 05:23, "Ronald Ojino via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Collins/John, i find such a system as very vital and when some IT professionals design its database like junior high school students, it beats logic....what was so hard in using the id no or passportno as its primary key or better still us a composite key...basic stuff that just makes one wonder when such issues arise in a database of such magnitude. Auto-incrementing the primary key here is suicidal in my opinion. The designer is either a total novice or deserves disciplinary action.
On 24-Jan-2017 11:15 PM, "John Kieti via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
There is a tendency among some database designers to avoid setting the "unique" property for database fields other than their system's own auto_increment or otherwise generated primary keys.
Am also curious what mechanism is in place to stop me from registering as a voter, first using my passport , then again using my national ID. Anyone?
Best regards.
On Jan 24, 2017 21:20, "Collins Areba via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Ronald I suspect the offline nature of collection of data and biometric information might have resulted in multiple data points in cases of genuine ID number shared between more than one person (how that happens I have no clue) or trying to register more than once. If you ask me, What should have happened is for them to delete all repeating entries, and leave the burden of proof on the registrants. At least the database would at all times then be accurate.
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 8:57 PM, Ronald Ojino via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
My rather basic question is how is that database designed...it lacks data integrity (how did that happen?) ..could this be delibrate . Regards, Ronald Ojino
On 24-Jan-2017 8:06 PM, "John Kieti via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
IMHO, We need an early spotlight on the competences, capacities and integrity of people running IEBC's ICT functions. We cannot afford to have mediocrity being exhibited in the ICT profession, yet again.
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 7:03 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
IEBC Chair Wafula Chebukati said that these cases of multiple registrations are attributed to data entry errors at the time of registration, possible use of one ID to register more than once, attempted registration of more than one person using same ID as well as shared National ID numbers. “The Commission is working closely with National Registration Bureau (NRB) to clean up all the shared IDs. In addition, a team of Registration officers and ICT operators are conducting further cleanup,” said Chebukati. He said that the provisional register will be availed to members of the public for verification once the voter enlistment exercise is over. Read more at: https://www.standardmedia.co.k e/article/2000231105/iebc-registry-shows-128-926-records-of- shared-voter-details
Of particular interest is the following line : attempted registration of more than one person using same ID as well as shared National ID numbers, do we have competent people managing this important institution?
Regards
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Your passport R number is linked to your national ID Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: John Kieti via kictanet Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 11:14 PM To: awatila@yahoo.co.uk Cc: John Kieti Subject: Re: [kictanet] IEBC registry shows 128,926 records of shared voter details - Who audits the IEBC database? There is a tendency among some database designers to avoid setting the "unique" property for database fields other than their system's own auto_increment or otherwise generated primary keys. Am also curious what mechanism is in place to stop me from registering as a voter, first using my passport , then again using my national ID. Anyone? Best regards. On Jan 24, 2017 21:20, "Collins Areba via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: @Ronald I suspect the offline nature of collection of data and biometric information might have resulted in multiple data points in cases of genuine ID number shared between more than one person (how that happens I have no clue) or trying to register more than once. If you ask me, What should have happened is for them to delete all repeating entries, and leave the burden of proof on the registrants. At least the database would at all times then be accurate. On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 8:57 PM, Ronald Ojino via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: My rather basic question is how is that database designed...it lacks data integrity (how did that happen?) ..could this be delibrate . Regards, Ronald Ojino On 24-Jan-2017 8:06 PM, "John Kieti via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: IMHO, We need an early spotlight on the competences, capacities and integrity of people running IEBC's ICT functions. We cannot afford to have mediocrity being exhibited in the ICT profession, yet again. On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 7:03 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: IEBC Chair Wafula Chebukati said that these cases of multiple registrations are attributed to data entry errors at the time of registration, possible use of one ID to register more than once, attempted registration of more than one person using same ID as well as shared National ID numbers. “The Commission is working closely with National Registration Bureau (NRB) to clean up all the shared IDs. In addition, a team of Registration officers and ICT operators are conducting further cleanup,” said Chebukati. He said that the provisional register will be availed to members of the public for verification once the voter enlistment exercise is over. Read more at: https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2000231105/iebc-registry-shows-128-9... Of particular interest is the following line : attempted registration of more than one person using same ID as well as shared National ID numbers, do we have competent people managing this important institution? Regards -- Barrack O. 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Arent they supposed to validate your id number by looking at your ID while registering you? The control is that all National ID numbers are unique (same control used in mpesa). Unless we want to say that there are people with different IDs that have the same national ID number Regards, Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Collins Areba via kictanet Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 9:20 PM To: awatila@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Collins Areba Subject: Re: [kictanet] IEBC registry shows 128,926 records of shared voter details - Who audits the IEBC database? @Ronald I suspect the offline nature of collection of data and biometric information might have resulted in multiple data points in cases of genuine ID number shared between more than one person (how that happens I have no clue) or trying to register more than once. If you ask me, What should have happened is for them to delete all repeating entries, and leave the burden of proof on the registrants. At least the database would at all times then be accurate. On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 8:57 PM, Ronald Ojino via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: My rather basic question is how is that database designed...it lacks data integrity (how did that happen?) ..could this be delibrate . Regards, Ronald Ojino On 24-Jan-2017 8:06 PM, "John Kieti via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: IMHO, We need an early spotlight on the competences, capacities and integrity of people running IEBC's ICT functions. We cannot afford to have mediocrity being exhibited in the ICT profession, yet again. On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 7:03 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: IEBC Chair Wafula Chebukati said that these cases of multiple registrations are attributed to data entry errors at the time of registration, possible use of one ID to register more than once, attempted registration of more than one person using same ID as well as shared National ID numbers. “The Commission is working closely with National Registration Bureau (NRB) to clean up all the shared IDs. In addition, a team of Registration officers and ICT operators are conducting further cleanup,” said Chebukati. He said that the provisional register will be availed to members of the public for verification once the voter enlistment exercise is over. Read more at: https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2000231105/iebc-registry-shows-128-9... Of particular interest is the following line : attempted registration of more than one person using same ID as well as shared National ID numbers, do we have competent people managing this important institution? Regards -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254733206359 Skype: barrack.otieno PGP ID: 0x2611D86A _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/ Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jkieti%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/ Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/arebacollins%40gmail.c... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- Regards, Collins Areba, Kilifi, Kenya. Tel: +254 707 750 788 / 0731534124 Twitter: @arebacollins. Skype: arebacollins
The explanation that duplicate national ID registrations came about through data entry errors can only mean that the system failed to implement data integrity checks when committing data to the main database - if the assumption that national ID numbers are unique is valid. On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 8:57 AM, awatila--- via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Arent they supposed to validate your id number by looking at your ID while registering you?
The control is that all National ID numbers are unique (same control used in mpesa). Unless we want to say that there are people with different IDs that have the same national ID number
Regards,
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*From: *Collins Areba via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 24, 2017 9:20 PM *To: *awatila@yahoo.co.uk *Cc: *Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com> *Subject: *Re: [kictanet] IEBC registry shows 128,926 records of shared voter details - Who audits the IEBC database?
@Ronald
I suspect the offline nature of collection of data and biometric information might have resulted in multiple data points in cases of genuine ID number shared between more than one person (how that happens I have no clue) or trying to register more than once. If you ask me, What should have happened is for them to delete all repeating entries, and leave the burden of proof on the registrants. At least the database would at all times then be accurate.
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 8:57 PM, Ronald Ojino via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
My rather basic question is how is that database designed...it lacks data integrity (how did that happen?) ..could this be delibrate .
Regards,
Ronald Ojino
On 24-Jan-2017 8:06 PM, "John Kieti via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
IMHO, We need an early spotlight on the competences, capacities and integrity of people running IEBC's ICT functions. We cannot afford to have mediocrity being exhibited in the ICT profession, yet again.
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 7:03 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
IEBC Chair Wafula Chebukati said that these cases of multiple registrations are attributed to data entry errors at the time of registration, possible use of one ID to register more than once, attempted registration of more than one person using same ID as well as shared National ID numbers. “The Commission is working closely with National Registration Bureau (NRB) to clean up all the shared IDs. In addition, a team of Registration officers and ICT operators are conducting further cleanup,” said Chebukati. He said that the provisional register will be availed to members of the public for verification once the voter enlistment exercise is over. Read more at: https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2000231105/iebc- registry-shows-128-926-records-of-shared-voter-details
Of particular interest is the following line : attempted registration of more than one person using same ID as well as shared National ID numbers, do we have competent people managing this important institution?
Regards
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The National Registration Bureau people should actually make better use of IT - it is possible to use one's surname as one of the variables in a hash algorithm to GENERATE a unique ID number; this means the wrong number can thereafter never be accepted by the system, which uses a reverse hash algorithm to check input. The technique of hashing is used e.g. in banks to generate bank account numbers. I am suspecting that currently ID numbers are given randomly rather than generated. W. On Wed, Jan 25, 2017, at 08:57 AM, awatila--- via kictanet wrote:
Arent they supposed to validate your id number by looking at your ID while registering you?
The control is that all National ID numbers are unique (same control used in mpesa). Unless we want to say that there are people with different IDs that have the same national ID number
Regards,
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From: Collins Areba via kictanet[2] Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 9:20 PM To: awatila@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Collins Areba[3] Subject: Re: [kictanet] IEBC registry shows 128,926 records of shared voter details - Who audits the IEBC database?
@Ronald
I suspect the offline nature of collection of data and biometric information might have resulted in multiple data points in cases of genuine ID number shared between more than one person (how that happens I have no clue) or trying to register more than once. If you ask me, What should have happened is for them to delete all repeating entries, and leave the burden of proof on the registrants. At least the database would at all times then be accurate.
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 8:57 PM, Ronald Ojino via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
My rather basic question is how is that database designed...it lacks data integrity (how did that happen?) ..could this be delibrate . Regards,
Ronald Ojino
On 24-Jan-2017 8:06 PM, "John Kieti via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
IMHO, We need an early spotlight on the competences, capacities and integrity of people running IEBC's ICT functions. We cannot afford to have mediocrity being exhibited in the ICT profession, yet again.
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 7:03 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
IEBC Chair Wafula Chebukati said that these cases of multiple registrations are attributed to data entry errors at the time of registration, possible use of one ID to register more than once, attempted registration of more than one person using same ID as well as shared National ID numbers. “The Commission is working closely with National Registration Bureau (NRB) to clean up all the shared IDs. In addition, a team of Registration officers and ICT operators are conducting further cleanup,” said Chebukati. He said that the provisional register will be availed to members of the public for verification once the voter enlistment exercise is over. Read more at: https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2000231105/iebc-registry-shows-128-9...
Of particular interest is the following line : attempted registration of more than one person using same ID as well as shared National ID numbers, do we have competent people managing this important institution?
Regards
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This is another case of wrong database design coupled by lack of form validation (assuming forms are being used obviously). The best way to handle this as Collins has highlighted remove all repeating data at least we will have correct data. I would really like to know who designed/developed the system and process and tests done when deploying the system. Its a good thing IEBC has noticed the issue at this stage rather than during the election day. This begs the question has IEBC done other tests to the like stress testing the system? On Jan 25, 2017 9:36 AM, "waudo siganga via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
The National Registration Bureau people should actually make better use of IT - it is possible to use one's surname as one of the variables in a hash algorithm to GENERATE a unique ID number; this means the wrong number can thereafter never be accepted by the system, which uses a reverse hash algorithm to check input. The technique of hashing is used e.g. in banks to generate bank account numbers. I am suspecting that currently ID numbers are given randomly rather than generated.
W.
On Wed, Jan 25, 2017, at 08:57 AM, awatila--- via kictanet wrote:
Arent they supposed to validate your id number by looking at your ID while registering you?
The control is that all National ID numbers are unique (same control used in mpesa). Unless we want to say that there are people with different IDs that have the same national ID number
Regards,
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From: Collins Areba via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 9:20 PM To: awatila@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] IEBC registry shows 128,926 records of shared voter details - Who audits the IEBC database?
@Ronald
I suspect the offline nature of collection of data and biometric information might have resulted in multiple data points in cases of genuine ID number shared between more than one person (how that happens I have no clue) or trying to register more than once. If you ask me, What should have happened is for them to delete all repeating entries, and leave the burden of proof on the registrants. At least the database would at all times then be accurate.
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 8:57 PM, Ronald Ojino via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
My rather basic question is how is that database designed...it lacks data integrity (how did that happen?) ..could this be delibrate .
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Ronald Ojino
On 24-Jan-2017 8:06 PM, "John Kieti via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
IMHO, We need an early spotlight on the competences, capacities and integrity of people running IEBC's ICT functions. We cannot afford to have mediocrity being exhibited in the ICT profession, yet again.
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 7:03 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
IEBC Chair Wafula Chebukati said that these cases of multiple registrations are attributed to data entry errors at the time of registration, possible use of one ID to register more than once, attempted registration of more than one person using same ID as well as shared National ID numbers. “The Commission is working closely with National Registration Bureau (NRB) to clean up all the shared IDs. In addition, a team of Registration officers and ICT operators are conducting further cleanup,” said Chebukati. He said that the provisional register will be availed to members of the public for verification once the voter enlistment exercise is over. Read more at: https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2000231105/iebc- registry-shows-128-926-records-of-shared-voter-details
Of particular interest is the following line : attempted registration of more than one person using same ID as well as shared National ID numbers, do we have competent people managing this important institution?
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The electronic database was not well designed and normalized otherwise it should not have accepted duplicate records at all times. Data validation checks are supposed to be implemented at database level and also at GUI code level. From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+pmwanyika=kengen.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Collins Areba via kictanet Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 9:20 PM To: Peter Mwanyika <pmwanyika@kengen.co.ke> Cc: Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] IEBC registry shows 128, 926 records of shared voter details - Who audits the IEBC database? @Ronald I suspect the offline nature of collection of data and biometric information might have resulted in multiple data points in cases of genuine ID number shared between more than one person (how that happens I have no clue) or trying to register more than once. If you ask me, What should have happened is for them to delete all repeating entries, and leave the burden of proof on the registrants. At least the database would at all times then be accurate. On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 8:57 PM, Ronald Ojino via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: My rather basic question is how is that database designed...it lacks data integrity (how did that happen?) ..could this be delibrate . Regards, Ronald Ojino On 24-Jan-2017 8:06 PM, "John Kieti via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: IMHO, We need an early spotlight on the competences, capacities and integrity of people running IEBC's ICT functions. We cannot afford to have mediocrity being exhibited in the ICT profession, yet again. On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 7:03 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: IEBC Chair Wafula Chebukati said that these cases of multiple registrations are attributed to data entry errors at the time of registration, possible use of one ID to register more than once, attempted registration of more than one person using same ID as well as shared National ID numbers. “The Commission is working closely with National Registration Bureau (NRB) to clean up all the shared IDs. In addition, a team of Registration officers and ICT operators are conducting further cleanup,” said Chebukati. He said that the provisional register will be availed to members of the public for verification once the voter enlistment exercise is over. Read more at: https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2000231105/iebc-registry-shows-128-9... Of particular interest is the following line : attempted registration of more than one person using same ID as well as shared National ID numbers, do we have competent people managing this important institution? Regards -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277<tel:+254%20721%20325277> +254733206359<tel:+254%20733%20206359> Skype: barrack.otieno PGP ID: 0x2611D86A _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/ Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jkieti%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. 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They need to run an automated matching solution what will identify duplicates and get them verified by a team physically. This normally take a week to do, then IEBC can send a team to verify the entries that are not obvious. Best Regards, Baiju Shah
On 24 Jan 2017, at 20:57, Ronald Ojino via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
My rather basic question is how is that database designed...it lacks data integrity (how did that happen?) ..could this be delibrate . Regards, Ronald Ojino
On 24-Jan-2017 8:06 PM, "John Kieti via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: IMHO, We need an early spotlight on the competences, capacities and integrity of people running IEBC's ICT functions. We cannot afford to have mediocrity being exhibited in the ICT profession, yet again.
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 7:03 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: IEBC Chair Wafula Chebukati said that these cases of multiple registrations are attributed to data entry errors at the time of registration, possible use of one ID to register more than once, attempted registration of more than one person using same ID as well as shared National ID numbers. “The Commission is working closely with National Registration Bureau (NRB) to clean up all the shared IDs. In addition, a team of Registration officers and ICT operators are conducting further cleanup,” said Chebukati. He said that the provisional register will be availed to members of the public for verification once the voter enlistment exercise is over. Read more at: https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2000231105/iebc-registry-shows-128-9...
Of particular interest is the following line : attempted registration of more than one person using same ID as well as shared National ID numbers, do we have competent people managing this important institution?
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Its total chaos. That database schema is suspect.. ./ken On Jan 25, 2017 09:34, "Baiju Shah via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: They need to run an automated matching solution what will identify duplicates and get them verified by a team physically. This normally take a week to do, then IEBC can send a team to verify the entries that are not obvious. Best Regards, Baiju Shah On 24 Jan 2017, at 20:57, Ronald Ojino via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: My rather basic question is how is that database designed...it lacks data integrity (how did that happen?) ..could this be delibrate . Regards, Ronald Ojino On 24-Jan-2017 8:06 PM, "John Kieti via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
IMHO, We need an early spotlight on the competences, capacities and integrity of people running IEBC's ICT functions. We cannot afford to have mediocrity being exhibited in the ICT profession, yet again.
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 7:03 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
IEBC Chair Wafula Chebukati said that these cases of multiple registrations are attributed to data entry errors at the time of registration, possible use of one ID to register more than once, attempted registration of more than one person using same ID as well as shared National ID numbers. “The Commission is working closely with National Registration Bureau (NRB) to clean up all the shared IDs. In addition, a team of Registration officers and ICT operators are conducting further cleanup,” said Chebukati. He said that the provisional register will be availed to members of the public for verification once the voter enlistment exercise is over. Read more at: https://www.standardmedia.co.k e/article/2000231105/iebc-registry-shows-128-926-records-of- shared-voter-details
Of particular interest is the following line : attempted registration of more than one person using same ID as well as shared National ID numbers, do we have competent people managing this important institution?
Regards
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My same exact sentiments @Ronald Ojino. Sounds deliberate to me. What sort of a database are they using? Julie On 24 Jan 2017 21:00, "Ronald Ojino via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: My rather basic question is how is that database designed...it lacks data integrity (how did that happen?) ..could this be delibrate . Regards, Ronald Ojino On 24-Jan-2017 8:06 PM, "John Kieti via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
IMHO, We need an early spotlight on the competences, capacities and integrity of people running IEBC's ICT functions. We cannot afford to have mediocrity being exhibited in the ICT profession, yet again.
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 7:03 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
IEBC Chair Wafula Chebukati said that these cases of multiple registrations are attributed to data entry errors at the time of registration, possible use of one ID to register more than once, attempted registration of more than one person using same ID as well as shared National ID numbers. “The Commission is working closely with National Registration Bureau (NRB) to clean up all the shared IDs. In addition, a team of Registration officers and ICT operators are conducting further cleanup,” said Chebukati. He said that the provisional register will be availed to members of the public for verification once the voter enlistment exercise is over. Read more at: https://www.standardmedia.co.k e/article/2000231105/iebc-registry-shows-128-926-records-of- shared-voter-details
Of particular interest is the following line : attempted registration of more than one person using same ID as well as shared National ID numbers, do we have competent people managing this important institution?
Regards
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It could be that we are having the famous case of MS Access Database Administrators at IEBC. On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 12:16 PM, julianne anyim via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
My same exact sentiments @Ronald Ojino. Sounds deliberate to me. What sort of a database are they using?
Julie
On 24 Jan 2017 21:00, "Ronald Ojino via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
My rather basic question is how is that database designed...it lacks data integrity (how did that happen?) ..could this be delibrate . Regards, Ronald Ojino
On 24-Jan-2017 8:06 PM, "John Kieti via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
IMHO, We need an early spotlight on the competences, capacities and integrity of people running IEBC's ICT functions. We cannot afford to have mediocrity being exhibited in the ICT profession, yet again.
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 7:03 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
IEBC Chair Wafula Chebukati said that these cases of multiple registrations are attributed to data entry errors at the time of registration, possible use of one ID to register more than once, attempted registration of more than one person using same ID as well as shared National ID numbers. “The Commission is working closely with National Registration Bureau (NRB) to clean up all the shared IDs. In addition, a team of Registration officers and ICT operators are conducting further cleanup,” said Chebukati. He said that the provisional register will be availed to members of the public for verification once the voter enlistment exercise is over. Read more at: https://www.standardmedia.co.k e/article/2000231105/iebc-registry-shows-128-926-records-of- shared-voter-details
Of particular interest is the following line : attempted registration of more than one person using same ID as well as shared National ID numbers, do we have competent people managing this important institution?
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I also feel KPMG is largely compromised and lacks the moral authority to audit the IEBC registry. On Jan 26, 2017 14:07, "John Kieti via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
It could be that we are having the famous case of MS Access Database Administrators at IEBC.
On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 12:16 PM, julianne anyim via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
My same exact sentiments @Ronald Ojino. Sounds deliberate to me. What sort of a database are they using?
Julie
On 24 Jan 2017 21:00, "Ronald Ojino via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
My rather basic question is how is that database designed...it lacks data integrity (how did that happen?) ..could this be delibrate . Regards, Ronald Ojino
On 24-Jan-2017 8:06 PM, "John Kieti via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
IMHO, We need an early spotlight on the competences, capacities and integrity of people running IEBC's ICT functions. We cannot afford to have mediocrity being exhibited in the ICT profession, yet again.
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 7:03 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
IEBC Chair Wafula Chebukati said that these cases of multiple registrations are attributed to data entry errors at the time of registration, possible use of one ID to register more than once, attempted registration of more than one person using same ID as well as shared National ID numbers. “The Commission is working closely with National Registration Bureau (NRB) to clean up all the shared IDs. In addition, a team of Registration officers and ICT operators are conducting further cleanup,” said Chebukati. He said that the provisional register will be availed to members of the public for verification once the voter enlistment exercise is over. Read more at: https://www.standardmedia.co.k e/article/2000231105/iebc-registry-shows-128-926-records-of- shared-voter-details
Of particular interest is the following line : attempted registration of more than one person using same ID as well as shared National ID numbers, do we have competent people managing this important institution?
Regards
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@Joel, Am not defending KPMG but I know folks there who are very qualified and competent to do this audit thing for IEBC. For me the problem lies in the process IEBC may have used in procuring the audit services. They send out an Expression of Interest (EoI) and then selected the winner based on perhaps what the various auditors proposed (IEBC can correct this, since I stand to be corrected) Such a process - beauty contest - is always faced with the risk that the client (IEBC) may end up with what looks 'sexy' rather than what really needs to be done. Perhaps IEBC should have used the Expression of Interest gathered to provide some baseline specs and then factor in the details of what needs to be done in terms of not just auditing the register, but also the processes around it. The improved specification should then have gone out on national and international tender. Focusing purely on auditing the voter register records misses the point since a register can be cleaned today, and soiled tomorrow because the processes, systems and procedures revolving around it may not be strong enough to preserve the necessary integrity. walu. From: JOEL CENAS OJUNG'A via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: JOEL CENAS OJUNG'A <ojayc19@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 2:24 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] IEBC registry shows 128, 926 records of shared voter details - Who audits the IEBC database? I also feel KPMG is largely compromised and lacks the moral authority to audit the IEBC registry.On Jan 26, 2017 14:07, "John Kieti via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: It could be that we are having the famous case of MS Access Database Administrators at IEBC. On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 12:16 PM, julianne anyim via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote: My same exact sentiments @Ronald Ojino. Sounds deliberate to me. What sort of a database are they using? Julie On 24 Jan 2017 21:00, "Ronald Ojino via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote: My rather basic question is how is that database designed...it lacks data integrity (how did that happen?) ..could this be delibrate .Regards,Ronald Ojino On 24-Jan-2017 8:06 PM, "John Kieti via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote: IMHO, We need an early spotlight on the competences, capacities and integrity of people running IEBC's ICT functions. We cannot afford to have mediocrity being exhibited in the ICT profession, yet again. On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 7:03 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote: IEBC Chair Wafula Chebukati said that these cases of multiple registrations are attributed to data entry errors at the time of registration, possible use of one ID to register more than once, attempted registration of more than one person using same ID as well as shared National ID numbers. “The Commission is working closely with National Registration Bureau (NRB) to clean up all the shared IDs. In addition, a team of Registration officers and ICT operators are conducting further cleanup,” said Chebukati. He said that the provisional register will be availed to members of the public for verification once the voter enlistment exercise is over. Read more at: https://www.standardmedia.co.k e/article/2000231105/iebc-regi stry-shows-128-926-records-of- shared-voter-details Of particular interest is the following line : attempted registration of more than one person using same ID as well as shared National ID numbers, do we have competent people managing this important institution? Regards -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254733206359 Skype: barrack.otieno PGP ID: 0x2611D86A ______________________________ _________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/m ailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTA Net/ Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/m ailman/options/kictanet/jkieti %40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. 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Walu, In terms of procurement law if you choose the expression of interest way you have to go the entire process. If they did as you suggested a losing bidder could easily appeal at ppoa or at the judiciary. Regards, Alex Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Walubengo J via kictanet Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 3:41 PM To: awatila@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Walubengo J Subject: Re: [kictanet] IEBC registry shows 128,926 records of shared voter details - Who audits the IEBC database? @Joel, Am not defending KPMG but I know folks there who are very qualified and competent to do this audit thing for IEBC. For me the problem lies in the process IEBC may have used in procuring the audit services. They send out an Expression of Interest (EoI) and then selected the winner based on perhaps what the various auditors proposed (IEBC can correct this, since I stand to be corrected) Such a process - beauty contest - is always faced with the risk that the client (IEBC) may end up with what looks 'sexy' rather than what really needs to be done. Perhaps IEBC should have used the Expression of Interest gathered to provide some baseline specs and then factor in the details of what needs to be done in terms of not just auditing the register, but also the processes around it. The improved specification should then have gone out on national and international tender. Focusing purely on auditing the voter register records misses the point since a register can be cleaned today, and soiled tomorrow because the processes, systems and procedures revolving around it may not be strong enough to preserve the necessary integrity. walu. From: JOEL CENAS OJUNG'A via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: JOEL CENAS OJUNG'A <ojayc19@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 2:24 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] IEBC registry shows 128, 926 records of shared voter details - Who audits the IEBC database? I also feel KPMG is largely compromised and lacks the moral authority to audit the IEBC registry. On Jan 26, 2017 14:07, "John Kieti via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: It could be that we are having the famous case of MS Access Database Administrators at IEBC. On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 12:16 PM, julianne anyim via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote: My same exact sentiments @Ronald Ojino. Sounds deliberate to me. What sort of a database are they using? Julie On 24 Jan 2017 21:00, "Ronald Ojino via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote: My rather basic question is how is that database designed...it lacks data integrity (how did that happen?) ..could this be delibrate . Regards, Ronald Ojino On 24-Jan-2017 8:06 PM, "John Kieti via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote: IMHO, We need an early spotlight on the competences, capacities and integrity of people running IEBC's ICT functions. We cannot afford to have mediocrity being exhibited in the ICT profession, yet again. On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 7:03 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote: IEBC Chair Wafula Chebukati said that these cases of multiple registrations are attributed to data entry errors at the time of registration, possible use of one ID to register more than once, attempted registration of more than one person using same ID as well as shared National ID numbers. “The Commission is working closely with National Registration Bureau (NRB) to clean up all the shared IDs. In addition, a team of Registration officers and ICT operators are conducting further cleanup,” said Chebukati. He said that the provisional register will be availed to members of the public for verification once the voter enlistment exercise is over. Read more at: https://www.standardmedia.co.k e/article/2000231105/iebc-regi stry-shows-128-926-records-of- shared-voter-details Of particular interest is the following line : attempted registration of more than one person using same ID as well as shared National ID numbers, do we have competent people managing this important institution? Regards -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254733206359 Skype: barrack.otieno PGP ID: 0x2611D86A ______________________________ _________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/m ailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTA Net/ Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/m ailman/options/kictanet/jkieti %40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. 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@Alex, Thnx for the update. Always learning from the list. So maybe thats where the problem is. For such an important, critical and public task, am not sure 'Expression of Interest' route provides the expected rigour in terms of the specification of the what is to be done. A National /International tender would have given the public more access to the technical details/specs like:- 'What exactly are the winning Auditors expected to do and how would they do it?'. 'What are the Audit objectives, processes and outcomes going to look like? Do they address the challenges and fears expressed by key stakeholders (politicians, citizens, media, tech community etc) At the moment, such details are not public and so it becomes difficult to measure success of the audit process. Even if KPMG did a good job, it will be difficult to measure that in the court of public opinion since the public is not privy to the details of the task. walu. From: "awatila@yahoo.co.uk" <awatila@yahoo.co.uk> To: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Cc: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 4:40 PM Subject: RE: [kictanet] IEBC registry shows 128,926 records of shared voter details - Who audits the IEBC database? #yiv8166031047 #yiv8166031047 -- _filtered #yiv8166031047 {font-family:Helvetica;panose-1:2 11 5 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;} _filtered #yiv8166031047 {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv8166031047 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}#yiv8166031047 #yiv8166031047 p.yiv8166031047MsoNormal, #yiv8166031047 li.yiv8166031047MsoNormal, #yiv8166031047 div.yiv8166031047MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;}#yiv8166031047 a:link, #yiv8166031047 span.yiv8166031047MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv8166031047 a:visited, #yiv8166031047 span.yiv8166031047MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:#954F72;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv8166031047 .yiv8166031047MsoChpDefault {} _filtered #yiv8166031047 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}#yiv8166031047 div.yiv8166031047WordSection1 {}#yiv8166031047 Walu,In terms of procurement law if you choose the expression of interest way you have to go the entire process. If they did as you suggested a losing bidder could easily appeal at ppoa or at the judiciary. Regards, Alex Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Walubengo J via kictanet Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 3:41 PM To: awatila@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Walubengo J Subject: Re: [kictanet] IEBC registry shows 128,926 records of shared voter details - Who audits the IEBC database? @Joel, Am not defending KPMG but I know folks there who are very qualified and competent to do this audit thing for IEBC. For me the problem lies in the process IEBC may have used in procuring the audit services. They send out an Expression of Interest (EoI) and then selected the winner based on perhaps what the various auditors proposed (IEBC can correct this, since I stand to be corrected) Such a process - beauty contest - is always faced with the risk that the client (IEBC) may end up with what looks 'sexy' rather than what really needs to be done. Perhaps IEBC should have used the Expression of Interest gathered to provide some baseline specs and then factor in the details of what needs to be done in terms of not just auditing the register, but also the processes around it. The improved specification should then have gone out on national and international tender. Focusing purely on auditing the voter register records misses the point since a register can be cleaned today, and soiled tomorrow because the processes, systems and procedures revolving around it may not be strong enough to preserve the necessary integrity. walu. From: JOEL CENAS OJUNG'A via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: JOEL CENAS OJUNG'A <ojayc19@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 2:24 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] IEBC registry shows 128, 926 records of shared voter details - Who audits the IEBC database? I also feel KPMG is largely compromised and lacks the moral authority to audit the IEBC registry.On Jan 26, 2017 14:07, "John Kieti via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: It could be that we are having the famous case of MS Access Database Administrators at IEBC. On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 12:16 PM, julianne anyim via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote: My same exact sentiments @Ronald Ojino. Sounds deliberate to me. What sort of a database are they using? Julie On 24 Jan 2017 21:00, "Ronald Ojino via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote: My rather basic question is how is that database designed...it lacks data integrity (how did that happen?) ..could this be delibrate .Regards,Ronald Ojino On 24-Jan-2017 8:06 PM, "John Kieti via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote: IMHO, We need an early spotlight on the competences, capacities and integrity of people running IEBC's ICT functions. We cannot afford to have mediocrity being exhibited in the ICT profession, yet again. On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 7:03 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote: IEBC Chair Wafula Chebukati said that these cases of multiple registrations are attributed to data entry errors at the time of registration, possible use of one ID to register more than once, attempted registration of more than one person using same ID as well as shared National ID numbers. “The Commission is working closely with National Registration Bureau (NRB) to clean up all the shared IDs. In addition, a team of Registration officers and ICT operators are conducting further cleanup,” said Chebukati. He said that the provisional register will be availed to members of the public for verification once the voter enlistment exercise is over. Read more at: https://www.standardmedia.co.k e/article/2000231105/iebc-regi stry-shows-128-926-records-of- shared-voter-details Of particular interest is the following line : attempted registration of more than one person using same ID as well as shared National ID numbers, do we have competent people managing this important institution? Regards -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254733206359 Skype: barrack.otieno PGP ID: 0x2611D86A ______________________________ _________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/m ailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTA Net/ Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/m ailman/options/kictanet/jkieti %40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. 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participants (14)
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awatila＠yahoo.co.uk -
Baiju Shah -
Barrack Otieno -
Collins Areba -
Grace B -
JOEL CENAS OJUNG'A -
John Kieti -
julianne anyim -
Peter Mwanyika -
Ronald Ojino -
simiyu mse -
Toilem Godwin -
Walubengo J -
waudo siganga